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Uncharted and Tomb Raider would be better if they weren’t shooters

Every action adventure game that tries to have a decent storyline runs into the dichotomy of the protagonist having to shoot hundreds of people because of how the game is designed. The problem is a simple mismatch of genres.

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soniqstylz1273d ago

This is so correct. It would be better if Lara and Nate challenged their antagonists to games of chess.

joab7771273d ago

I think there is a happy medium. For one, in tomb raider they coulda fixed the shooting problem by simply mentioning that she was a badass at fighting, training since little but never had to kill...enter a moment in which she realizes she has to kill and ...killing machine. But I think shooters in general need to either up the enemy variety and strategy or they will go stale.

These two games can hav shooting but mixed with more platforming. Instead of gunning down thousands, make it more impactful. That being said, I believ Naughty Dog has already begun work to fix this in the Last of Us. Combat looks more focused, brutal and impactful.

Roccetarius1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

Thing is that Uncharted was Sony's answer to Gears of War. I remember an article with Naughty Dog, where they said it was quite different before the change.

Disagree all you want people, because it's the truth.

Well, there you go, i found an article that explains it.

http://www.nowgamer.com/new...

Donnieboi1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

What the hell is martial arts gonna do when Lara is on an island, outnumbered, by pirates with guns--who also wouldn't flinch at the thought of sexually assaulting her if they surrounded her?

This isn't some cheasy 70's Kung Fu flick. Fight skills will get u only so far.

However, it would have been cooler if she survived almost entirely by using stealth and hand made weapons. She could use confiscated guns (like what really happens in the game), but it should make her aim shakey and terrible for lack of experience in using guns. Thus making u want to revert to using bow and arrows more often and other tools/stealth. Gun shots instead could also be used to scare enemy into running away.

rainslacker1272d ago (Edited 1272d ago )

I actually found myself using bow and arrow more often than not. It wasn't until late in the game where you got a silencer for the pistol. If I was running head long into an enemy force I tended to use the shotgun. Only reason I used the rest was for the achievements, or if I ran out of ammo. One of the most fun parts of the game was trying to kill enemies without being seen.

Otherwise I agree with you...having her be a martial artists taking on hundreds of armed men would have seemed out of place.

rocky0475861272d ago

I said the same thing. But thing is, she was trained for this kind of thing already, just not the actual killing part. Her history didn't change despite some specific parts of who she is changing along with the rest of the overall story of how her first journey played out.

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platypusrme1273d ago

I think if they focused LESS on shooting and MORE on platforming then they would be much more enjoyable. The shooting aspects of Tomb Raider were excellent, but I would like more exploration and adventure to be a larger part of the game.

Reibooi1273d ago

Exactly my thoughts. I'm hoping the next Tomb Raider since it won't be the origin story will have more adventure and less shooting. Kinda more like how the original games were. Yeah there was shooting but it was mostly exploring and puzzles.

Axecution1272d ago

I disagree actually. I guess im in the minority though.
I love me a really good third person shooter haha. I feel like Uncharted and Tomb Raider really get the shooter-to-platforming-to-puzz le ratio perfect. Like whenever i was about to get bored of shooting, i found myself climbing some enormous thing and being awesome.

SilentNegotiator1273d ago (Edited 1273d ago )

Uncharted was at its best when it had shooting AND action/ platforming/ adventure stuff at the same time. Remember in U2 on the train with the helicopter?

StrongMan1273d ago (Edited 1273d ago )

Uncharted 2 is the most awarded game in history and sold over 6 million copies on one console so it doesn't need changing. Tomb Raider didn't make any money and failed to meet sales numbers so changes are needed there. Although it would sell even less if you take out shooting. It had to copy Uncharted to get the little buzz that it did get but not enough buzz to make any money off the game.

fei-hung1273d ago

Tomb Raider messed up due to SE stupid forecasting of sales and a ton of money probably being thrown into marketing and development to reboot the franchise. This never stopped Tomb Raider from being a bad game unlike another costly reboot that hasn't even sold a quarter of what TR sold.

As much as I enjoyed the newTR, I want it to play less like Uncharted and more like TR. I already have Uncharted, I don't need another, but I would love Mr some real tomb raiding.

ufo8mycat1273d ago

Strongman - and THATS the problem, it would sell less if it had less shooting. Sadly people want shooting.

Though it WOULD be a much better game if it had less shooting, about 35% of the game could be shooting and the rest on platforming/climbing/explorati on/tombs/puzzles. Not to mention improve Uncharteds very generic climbing mechanics and it would be an even better game then it is now.

Uncharted can be improved and made better so easily its not funny, problem is it may sell less, because less shooting, which is sad.

SilentNegotiator1273d ago (Edited 1273d ago )

"Sadly people want shooting"
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Do they? Or do publishers think that aiming for the COD crowd and having post-sale multiplayer content is the only way that they'll get their money back?

Look at Minecraft. 20 million flipping sales (10 million of which happened in the last 2 years or less, I believe). That's not a shooter.

Publishers THINK we just want shooters and fail at marketing anything without explosions.

"Uncharted can be improved and made better so easily its not funny"
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You seriously think you have "easy solutions" to "fixing" one of the highest rated games of the generation? Come on now....

Hicken1272d ago

And no one is surprised.

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