VG247 is reporting that Chris Lewis - vice president of Microsoft's interactive entertainment business in Europe - has claimed that Xbox 360 has now sold 17.7 million units globally.
The web site has it wrong the quote from the interview actually says install base of 17.7 million(remember guys we have the interview posted here somewhere) not sold.
The link to the actual interview thing http://www.mcvuk.com/news/2...
Is that all??? ;-D SAD!!!
is that the PS3 sales are barely over half of that. :(
If you look compare their sales since launch, you see that the PS3 is actually doing much better than the 360 despite a rocky launch. http://vgchartz.com/hwlaunc...
The 360 had an equally rocky launch...or do all Sony fanboys just choose to ignore that fact?
Let me lay it out for you:
- After 27 months, the 360 still sells on par with it's competitors.
- After 27 months, the 360 still holds a huge lead over the PS3...the dominate console from last gen.
- With all of the "RROD" negativity...for 2 YEARS now...the 360 STILL dominates in software sales, and competes equally on hardware, even with a year headstart.
Sony simply failed to live up to their own hype machine...again...and is being shown up by a Sophmore in the hardware industry. Factor in the hardware problems MS continues to have, and the fact that Sony had a 6-1 advantage in installed base last-gen...and it's really quite pathetic how the PS3 has performed.
well if they sold 7million in 2007 and probably the same or less in 2006 plus 1-2 million in 2005 fall i can predict the actual sales is around 16 millions including those who bought 2 or 3 360 because of RROD!! if u exclude those people the actual sales will be around 15 million! what a pity!!
PS3 outsells the 360 if you compare the 360s st1 year with the PS3s 1st year.
But you can also compare PS3s 1st with 360s 2nd year. Doesnt matter which way you go since PS3 outsells the 360 in both cases.
360s software sales are the biggest but insignificant if compared with a console like the PS1 or PS2 even. In fact, its sales are comparable to XBOX sales and N64 game sales.
The only reason why it beats the PS3 is because the PS3 install base hasnt caught up yet.
And the PS3 has outsold the 360 last year and will continue to outsell the 360 this year.
360 is a sinking ship. You claim that 360 had lots of negativity. Boy, insignificant compared to the negativity the PS3 got thanks to MSs 2 billion spiral campaign, stupid bot.
That just sad :( Ps3 is now well over 10.5 mill in just 1 year and expecting to be over 11 millions in the end of march and that count as 1 year in Europe. 360 over 2 year and only make 17.7 millions but not to forget their are RROD since it reduce 16% percentage but with that rate including the people who own more than 1 or 2 360 in their home (just 1 owner not 2)
You'll see 360 actually did better. Get off Sonys diyck.
on Ballmer d1ck that great nice you see that maybe you could be give us a video something like this http://www.youtube.com/watc...
and they r so much in to hitting the disagree and taking bubbles aways from sony fans!! they cant stand us any more so they dont want to see us comment any more!! what a losers!! get used to it or u will suffer much more in the coming years including this year! ur console have 70% RROD and its only increasing!! 10 million console have been designed with faulty architecture! what do u expect? u think it can last for more than 2 years?? now all those consoles that was bought 1-2 years ago r in the repairing factories!! even the new ones have 16% of RROD(so far)!! good luck bots!!
xBox360 has been out much longer than PS3!!! ;-D
10 Million have been returned to Micro$oft! ;-D
...you're one of those morons, who thinks that the 360 dominates software sales, even with over half of their consoles in repair? Yeah...you're a bright one. :o
Barely half? Ps3 is at 11 million. 17 million in two years is nothing to be ecstatic about.
My post CLEARLY says "barely OVER half"...O-VER. If we are to believe that the PS3 is at 11 million sold, then you must also believe the 360 is above the reported 17.7 million. PS3 is currently at about 9.5 million SOLD, and 360 is at about 16.5 million SOLD...which puts the PS3 at 57.5% of 360 sales, and BARELY OVER HALF.
Sorry THWIP, but if you payed attention a little more. You could know that Sony doesn't count shipped console, like microsoft does. Sony count SOLD UNIT, and when they say 11M they mean that.
How is PS3 barely half? They're somewhere between 11 and 12 M SOLD. Xbox is 17.7 Shipped. Take a million sitting on shop shelves around the world and minus another 30% counted as broken and OMG the difference between Xbox and PS3's userbase could be as small as your IQ. Can you work out what 17M minus 30% is? Dont you get it? They're less than 5 M apart and closer than you think. Not bad for a console that STILL hasn't even been out a full year in Europe yet. Yeah, people forget that.
"Even sadder... is that the PS3 sales are barely over half of that. :(" Do you understand simple mathematics at all? If you did you'd realise that the 360 has been on the shelves for DOUBLE the time to PS3 has, in Europe the PS3's only been out since last March. The 360 doesn't even have double the sales of the PS3 despite it being out for double the time, I think you should take back what you said because you look like an idiot.
Even Nintendouche's "console" has already overtaken the 360! PIGS- this is NOTHING to be proud of! MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!
XBOX1 = 25 million sold
xbox 360 = 10 million in first year
PS2 = 120 million
PS3 = 10 million in first year
WOOOOW , The PS3 is doing GREAT !!!
Both consoles are ok , nobody is dying anytime soon so just relax people.Even though the ps3 is outselling the 360 its not rolling over it like last gen.
P.S : Oh yeah of course PS2 gamers are waiting for GT5 , MGS 4 , FF13 bla bla bla.
But its funny how ONLY ps2 gamers wait , why didnt th xbox owners wait to upgrade
Because they are hardcore ? Dont tell me 110 million ps2 owners are casual gamers.
The Xbox gamers didn't wait to upgrade simply because MS stopped supporting the original Xbox, thus forcing them to move on to the Xbox360. The PS2 meanwhile was still producing top-notch games (Persona 3, Okami, God of War 2, etc.) at the time of the PS3's launch. Even now, the PS2 is still a viable gaming console.
did ms not kill of the old xbox wile the ps2 is still getting games now
90% of xbox owners had a PS2 as well as the xbox.
Alot of xbox owners even had a PS2 before getting and xbox.
I got my xbox 3 years after getting my ps2. Most of the xbox owners I know had a ps2 as well so saying people arnet upgrading to ps3 because the ps2 is still there is nonsense.
When the wii came out the Gamecube was still available and games were still coming out (zelda for instance) but they didnt hesitate to upgrade.
Why is it that ONLY ps2 gamers wait to upgrade ?
You said it yourself. PS2 owners will upgrade for MGS, FF, GT, Tekken, GOW, Twisted Metal, etc, etc, etc. People waiting for Halo and......, um, yeah, Halo, Upgraded already. Most the people who want an Xbox have already got one, wheres nearly everyone still wants a PS3. Thats why PS3 is climbing while Xbox is sliding. DERP !
Haven't they been at 17.something since before Christmas? Or are they finally catching on to that hip trend that 'shipped does not equal sold'?
...now so that they can claim a huge increase because of the drop.
I thought a real late in feb. that they had reached 18 milion sold. Can't remember and too lazy to look.
In January you said you sold 18 million. Now you say you sold 17.7 and it's March. Are you telling me that there was a miscalculation or were MS just BS'ing us in January?
That was shipped, this is actual sold.
then in Jan/Feb they claimed shortages, and now they claim they have 17.7 million sold.
How were there shortages if there were 18 million shipped 3 months ago, what have they been doing for the last 3 months?
"sold" not sold to retailers, like Sony, while never reporting the "shipped" anymore. MS and Nintendo report both shipped and sold, somthing Sony conveniently stopped doing.
they're both elaborated?
Why is this such a hard concept for people to understand. Microsoft specifically stated "installed base" as that 17.7 million figure. There are 360s in the channel -- probably 500K to to 1 million which would put the number of "sold", as in sold into the channel, well over the 18 million dollar mark. Come on, people. Read. Synthesize, then comment.
man is it me or does all the ms followers look alike - like nerds - man only 17 mill. my god come back when you pass the 50 mill. mark the psp has already sold more than 30 mill. so if thats the case im pretty sure GOD OF WAR is a big success of that so does that mean GOD OF WAR is more popular than halo if thats the case then lets see what happens when GOD OF WAR 3 hits the ps3 man talk about big sales on the ps3 that title alone could have the ps3 to pass the 30 mill mark then mgs 4 will push about 5 mill or more and final fantasy about 7 mill. gt 5 about 5 mill. socom 5 about 5 mill. then with the lower pricing of the ps3 that will push a good 20 to 30 million and then look at the sales numbers ps3 120 mill. and the 360 might hit the 40 or 50 million mark like the original xbox then ms brings out the 720 thing then sony releases the ps4 and history repeats itself
LOL.... you guys are funny... "Sony count sold to the consumer".... heheh... tell... how can Sony know this information? technically the only way that Sony could possibly know this information is when someone register their console which will give them the serial number....
mmm... who knows maybe Sony is adding a transmiter inside of each PS3 that capture when a console is sold to a consumer.. and let them know..
why do you think that companies rely on NPD? If Sony knew when a console is sold to the consumer... (magically) they could of just get it from Sony...
did you know that NPD only track like 40%-50% of the inventory... probably even less... the reason is because not all stores give them feedback about "Sold to the consumer"...
let me see if I can help you understand...
If someone buys at whole sale price from a major distributor 200 consoles to sell on ebay.... that major distributor has no way of knowing when someone buys a console from ebay... or if the person that purchased that console got it to re-sell or to own...
If a company buys buys 2,000 consoles to ship over sea ... there is no way to track if they were sold to consumer...
I worked on POS (Point of Sell) software development for major some retail stores.. and I tell you.. they are not connected to Sony's database to let Sony knows, "Look, we sold one unit!"...
this is why companies go by shipped... because they can track what they sell to the distributors....
now... ok... fine... I am willing to learn... can one of you saying that Sony tracks "sold to the consumer".. tell me a logical way.. sony capture this information? please... I want to learn... explain...
Sorry, but if Sony are saying their number are SOLD not shipped then pardon me if I believe them, a coparation that been managing billions for decades over you, and angry fanboy with a grudge. Oh I know you alway try to sound level headed and logical but the grudge is unmistakable, and I've only been here a year. I wonder how long you've been like this. Probably since your Walkman chewed your Hot Chocolate tape in '82. Oh well, just move on and download it. Maybe if Sony ships 100 units to a store at the beginning of the month, they asks them at the end of the month how many they have left and then send the next batch depending on what stock is there. "You have 10 left you say? WOW, you must have sold 90. Now we can work out how many we sold last month. WOOHOO." Not really rocket science is it? Are you sure Bladestar you're not just upset because it appear XB and PS3 are about 5 Million or less units apart and PS3 isn't even a year old in Europe yet?
If this is 18 million shipped, vs 17.7 sold, that's roughly 300,000 xbox's in the wild.......unsold.
So, my question is, what are all these "supply constraint issues" that MSFT is talking about when there are 300,000 consoles NOT SOLD SITTING ON STORE SHELVES SOMEWHERE??
MSFT said that they have an install base of 17.7 million.
A while back they said they shipped 18 million, that's 300,000 units that are "unsold".
so, can they then explain their "Supply constraint issues" when there are roughly 300,000 units unsold? Remember, this was their story for being outsold by the PS3 in the past couple of months.
the only REAL console with a supply constraint is the Wii.
What I meant to say was: The only console with a REAL supply constraint is the Wii.
17.7 mln units in almost three years. Is that all?
...ignorant as pathetic as always. :o
27 months...that's 9 WHOLE MONTHS shy of 3 years, and still has the X-mas season left to go. Don't worry, by this time next year, MS will STILL have several million on Sony, and a much stronger library to boot.
Isnt all that much if you count thats all over the world plus I bet a good chunk of those are arcade models(I see them everywhere). As for supply issues I think they mean on the pro and elite(the 360 version people want if they want a 360 lol)
Maybe 300,000 RROD since they reached 18 Millon, lol.
PS3 has already won.
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