"The message is clear: the NDAs have been signed at the highest level. This next-gen discussion doesn't start until Microsoft's lawyers say so."
Well it does tell us that MS are stuggling from within and trying to pull of a stunt, when E3 come we gamers will have the answer so we still do not know if MS are building a military supercomputer gaming console lol :P but so far, I am sold on the PS4
Well said and I completely agree. +bubble
Blinded fanboyism comment +Disagree added. Enjoy :)
*Correction* Xbox absence tells us nothing about next-gen 720. Because we know and are learning more about Sony's Next Gen console everyday it seems.
agreed, it is only Ms who hasn't said a thing about the 720, all we know is all of this leaked unofficial rumoured stuff. Essentially, we do not even know if MS are even making a next gen console.
@ iGAM3R Microsoft will not drop out of consoles they know there is money to be made in the market with the XBox brand. Microsoft may have done a few stupid things but making money and spending money is what they are good at.
Magnus, it was a figure of speech.
MS are one of the 3 so its a third of next gen we no nothing about. The other 2 have laid their cards out. Ill still be picking up a 720 before that wii u anyway.... I know that much.
Immediately one really really stupid comment. And the usual troll agrees with you. "Well it does tell us that MS are stuggling from within and trying to pull of a stunt" What tells you MS is struggling within? What.. kind of insane garbage are talkin about? Listen fanboy: MS....HAS....NOT....ANNOUNCED ANYTHING REGARDING NEXT GEN YET. MS doesn't operate on your, or my time, just wait. And who cares if your sold on the PlayStation "so is everyone else" on here. I'll get both eventually but in the mean time I'm still very, very interested on the next Xbox. I'm not sold on the PS4 and obviously the 720 yet so unlike you and everyone else I'll reserve judgment until I get full details on both. Fanboys I swear....
It actually depends on what MS shows, but let's face it, at least it doesn't look like MS is acting reactively. That MS have some deep seated plans. It's not like when the Kinect was revealed at E3 and then Sony came out with an extremely nervous looking Richard Marks with an amateurish presentation that looks like it was conceived hours after MS E3 presentation. That's the thing, if MS rushes to announce things it might not be announced right and be perceived negatively. Fact of the matter is, nothing is sold until consumers buy it and that won't be until at least 6 months from now. Remember how the press said at $150 nobody would buy Kinect. Over 20 million sold later, it sold better than the original Xbox! Now, remember how the 3DS was believed to perform very badly, and the PS Vita was praised to high heavens by the media? Fast forward, and the 3DS is selling like hotcakes and PS Vita well isn't gaining traction at all. Point is, there is plenty of time to announce and inform. The big question is, what does MS have to show? More importantly than that is the execution and management of all that. Nintendo turned 3DS fortunes around, while Sony has yet to achieve anything with the PS Vita. Talk is easy, but execution is what matters.
Yeah you can schedule a tech demo in 1 day... Do you know how stupid you sound? Also atleast Sony's move demo was real, same cant be said for kinect which was alot of smoke and mirrors and bad acting.
The speculations and frenzy we see on forums really doesn't amount to much. What matters is what happens at the retail end. There will be plenty of time for consumers to decide which one to get or more than one system. Some people are just impatient. I like being surprised, often E3 is ruined because of so many early leaks. You're right, Microsoft should not react to the PS4 announcement just for the sale of trying to be relevant. They should stick to their original plan (whatever that may be) and stay the course. What I want to see from Microsoft at E3 (if that is truly when we hear about the next Xbox first) is for them to come out very confidentially and abolish the rumors front and center. Say "no, we are not forcing you to stay connected online". "No, we are not abandoning the used market". They reveal the specs and the price and the release date. That would shut everyone up and then move on to what the Xbox has to offer. Show real games running. Show Kinect 2 if they are going that route in real applications and not smoke and mirrors. I want them to treat me with respect and not as being naive. We've seen enough over the years at E3 that never really materialize or mocked up tech demo's. It's time for Microsoft to put up or shut up. Nobody wants to hear about how well Xbox Live is doing or how many systems they have sold in the U.S. They need to be a global market and not have Live hide behind a pay wall.
I also like what M$ is doing: M$ is about to hit that "Game winning buzzer beater" that the opposing team can do nothing to combat because theres no time left on the clock. M$ waiting til E3 is the best strategy of all times. If they come with what I'm thinking, others will be left scrambling for attention. I think M$ sees an opportunity for a game winning shot & they're going hard after the Video Game Market. Like it or not, most will be impressed and haters will not be able to deny what they deliver.
@majiebeast: You know what is stupid? To schedule a tech demo in 1-day for one of the biggest trade shows in the year in front of millions of people. A lot of these things are at least planned far in advanced and re-hearsed frequently. If you don't you risk looking like Sony did with PS Move announcement.
i seen people say just wait for e3 when it comes to m$ for the past few years because ps3 been having news way before e3 then when e3 comes out ps3 has even more blow out news. but when e3 comes for M$ its just a bunch of kinect stuff for the past 3 years and either gears or halo and thats pretty much it lol. i think microsoft kind of screwd so its better to hide the bad news until later instead of having to say the bad new now and then later. When people dont divulge information is because they have very little of it or its bad.
Genuine question. What was the blow-out news from Sony's e3 conference last year?
How does that tell you that? Let's think for a second, shall we? On January 2, 2013, MS launched a website that counted down to E3, don't believe me, here check the link, Major Nelson even kept the original posted date up top to confirm. http://majornelson.com/2013... Now, that was posted prior to Sony announcing their 02/20/2013 conference. MS has never had a countdown to E3 before, so let's try and use our brains here. What could that countdown be fore? Hey, you know what, maybe it could be for their new console? Who would have thought. All these signs clearly point to an E3 reveal and there has been absolutely nothing that shows to an earlier reveal date. If ANYTHING, the fact that MS is sticking to their original plan shows they are not intimidated and confident in their product. The only thing we can do is wait, well, most of us, you'll continue trolling.
Everyone knows your sold on the PS4. I see you comment on like every PS4 or 720 story. Personally I like Xbox exclusives, and prefer to enjoy my massive amount of Steam games :D. All these arguments about 720 and PS4. We all know Steam is the best gaming system (Yeah I know it's just a distributor.) But I will agree Playstation has a few exclusives that are awesome...None of the Quantic Dream games come to mind...I play games when i want to play games, I watch movies when I want to watch movies. Console wars.................
If they keep their silence, they will lose lot of consumers because Microsoft is giving them the chance to make up their mind and once it's done, it will be very difficult to change it again. Silence is also creating lot of rumors which can have repercussions.
Give it a rest. You think you, some guy on n4g.com knows how a business should run over one of the most successful companies in America. Do you people read your comments before you post? All armchair experts and CEO's on this site.
My friend, this is just an opinion, and about the companies, if they knew everything no company wouldn't ever be bankrupted.
I respect your opinion, but your statement comes across as a fact. Glad you clarified. I agree many businesses close due to lack of leadership, business moves, etc, but MS is not one of those businesses.
I actually like the silence about the Xbox720 its buiding hype for me. It makes me want to see what options it has to offer. What kind of ponies are under its hood and what the line up of games its going to offer. Its not like the hype of Final Fantasy VS13 with a few dabbles here a little info there and maybe a few videos, Personally I lost the hype on that game and could careless about it now. But the hype with the Xbox720 is you it will be released and you'll be able to play it and be excited about the console. Not like waiting half a console generation for Final Fantasy VS13. I just want Microsoft to test and amp up quality control on the console lord knows another RROD problem would be bad.
I sense some hurt feelings regarding FFV13.
Well we only have speculations so far. Double precision gpu or a weak gpu. Kinnect to play or not kinnect to play. None the less the silence better pay off.
He makes an excellent point. "For next-gen consoles, momentum appears to be suggesting that unless a more progressive platform-holder emerges after these months of silence and turmoil, they might awaken too late to find the industry changed around them. And by then it'll be too late."
We already know how next gen will look, and that is an "extremely more awesomelicous!" version of the Playstation 3 with all its bells and whistles but more Turbo!!!
I honestly don't think Microsoft is going for a console strictly revolved around gaming, but only time will tell I guess(E3).
I already know what I need to know about next gen. I'll be getting a PS4. MS didn't do anything with the original XBox to make me want a 360, and did nothing with the 360 to make me want a... whatever it's called.
Shame, cause you missed out on a lot...... i used to be you until i got a 360 whilst waiting for PS3.....best move i've made....
Its tells us MS isnt threathened by what Sony showed. They beat them this gen without having a 120ml prevoious userbase next gen MS knows they got it in the bag with a 80ml userbase waiting to upgrade, they choose when next gen starts.
Did you just say that next gen starts when Microsoft says it does? You obviously don't remember when Sony said something similar and the outcome of that. Motorola RAZR i
The difference is MS didn't say it but Sony actually did.
I already decided on what to get next gen. I'll be getting PS4. my decision was not based on specs or controller or even social interactivity. my decision was based solely on GAMES. Sony offered me the best experience this gen, constant flow of quality exclusives that cannot be matched by competitors, I know they will keep this trend and PS4 won't disappoint in this aspect. So, I don't give a rat a$$ on whatever MS is gonna reveal, be it an xbox with gazallion cores or a GPU that destroy earth as we know it, I don't care...all I want is a console that plays my games of choice, a console that plays so many genres, a console I can simply enjoy and connect with. Sorry MS, I'll go with Sony Playstation 4.
If they release a Killer Instinct on the next xbox i would really consider buying a next xbox. Gears, Halo and Fable is not enough.
There is no question PS4 is getting all the spotlight as far as next gen console is concerned. This is a big plus for Sony as they will have more momentum and mind share going into E3. The exposure the PS4 already has with gamers and devs is golden. Launch games like Watch dog for example people have seen will be on the PS4. They are seeing it over and over again that people will associate it with PS4. I am sure we will see great things as well from MS come E3. They will have to really blow the lid. Perhaps free online gaming or a slew of new IP's. We shall see.
I disagree. With the exception of the week after the PS4 conference and some coverage over GDC, there have been more articles on N4G about the next Xbox than PS4. Most are rumours, many of them appear to be bad ones but everyone is curious about it and talking about it. The top 5 articles on N4G as we speak contains 3 about the next Xbox, just to prove my point.
E3 feels like its taking so long to get there. Undele
let's just set the record straight...i will be getting a ps4.there were games on 360 that were and are cool to play.but... i hated microsoft's business practices.they are a monopolistic company that has drained gamers dollars in an attempt to stop sony from owning the living room.because they failed to do so with windows.people claimed sony was arrogant.sony has been humble this gen.while this whole gen,microsoft has been the arrogant company. initially blaming gamers for RROD,selling wifi and other proprietary accessories for ridiculous prices and charging gamers for access to their own internet.playing up DLC exclusivity and making contracts with third parties to sell us the rest of the content that would all fit on one bluray disc.this gen was appalling watching some gamers support their nonsense.supporting the fact that microsoft has more money than maybe sony and nintendo combined,but hasn't made a new core IP in years for its base.but hey,look at those kinect sales... having said that,don't think for one moment that microsoft won't have a system capable of playing the same games as ps4.don't think for a moment that they will not have something to fire back at sony and the advertising dollars to do so.don't think for a moment that just because kinect was a failure as an accurate controller THIS GEN,it will be next gen. they may just surprise gamers at E3.as an original xbox owner,i won't be surprised in the least that they will have something.the question is: are you willing to support their business practices next gen?
I totally agree with u but as a 360 owner aswell, I always gotta give them the benefit of a doubt but im kinda fed up with the lack of support they been showing lately. To me for a company that rich, it tells me that they really could care less what the core thinks. This is why I am not hyped for a nextbox if this is how they will treat us down the late years of the consoles life cycle. I mean to see your competitors dishing out new IP's even this late in the life cycle, they should atleast react & show their fan base they will do the same but that is not the case.
thats been my biggest gripe with MS and some of their fans even though I too have owned a 360 for a few years now. Greenberg used to be so loud and proud about exclusives and content then BAM MS slowed right the way down like saying they've done their part...lets let 3rd parties do the rest whilst we shift mmore focus onto other things...we'll just add a sprinkle of gears forza halo and whatever every now and then. Their fans who scream how broke sony are and how much MS is worth, choose not to demand a few new ips even though the so called financially failing company still creates new ones and keeps more of the old ones going into the twighlight years of its consoles life. I want some killer instincts. ..some crimson skies some old skool banjo or panza but MS just doesnt take enough risks on its game development even with a comparable number of studios apparently.
M$ has something to compete with sony on the hardware front. that's something you can be sure of because simply they will release a new console in a few months time. now on the games front sony has had a very strong line up of game this generation. even now when ps4 is so close to release, there are a lot of games still coming to ps3 that will beat anything coming to pc or x360. as business practices goes sony has been trying hard to cater to core gamers and casual gamers and any type of other gamer out there sony has a very big roof it's not only about a few exclusive's with sony. sony has also tried to give gamers a premium service. for 50 bucks a year you get loads of games while m$ just lets you stream from netflix and play online with your friends and still bombards you with adds?? look at the ps3 move controller it's still alive and usable on the ps4 so no need to sell it or trow it out. they demonstrated it on the ps4 at the reveal so again excellent value. where is the old kinect $150 just down the drain?? so if you look at all those business practices and factors it's plain to see it does not matter what m$ will reveal it will be an uphill battle for them just because of the way the have been conducting there business for years now!!
It says they have something big in the works, and they wont be rushed to show it until they are ready. I don't remember a time when people were so impatient, I'm excited for sure, but the reveal will be soon enough.
Take your time MS it seems to be breeding much fear in gaming land.
Yeah but...how do all the sony kids/annoying brats know everything there is to know about the next xbox, and furthermore that the PS4 is much better? Hmmm weird. Must have missed the bus on that news.
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