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Submitted by Eamon 534d ago | news

David Hayter explains why he wasn't brought back in MGSV

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Eamon  +   534d ago
Really sad. I do hope our petitioning and pressure can get Konami and Kojima to change their minds.

David Hayter gave up half of his salary to get the original voice actors of MGS1 to return in Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes.
NastyLeftHook0  +   534d ago
Yep. taking out david was like taking out bruce willis from die hard. exept they never took out bruce. hint: dont take out david!~
Xaphy  +   534d ago
last die hard sucked though
Pillsbury1  +   534d ago
They should hAve ended it on live free or die hard. He shot through himself to kill the bad guy!
Tony-Red-Grave  +   534d ago
quite frankly BB is better voiced by Doyle and Otsuka than by Hayter. Aside from that it's just straight up weird to hear snake basically talk to himself.
silverbeld  +   534d ago
Maybe it's 1 April joke.

He does signed on 1 april.
Larry L  +   534d ago
Personally I think you're all being duped just like I knew you were all being duped with the whole "Phantom Pain isn't the next MGS game" and "Jaokim isn't Kojima, I swear" things.

You think it's coincidence this was written on April 1st? I don't believe in coincidence. As far as I'm concerned this is just confirmation that David Hayter will be once again reprising his role(s) based on how they've been marketing this game thus far. And how they've been doing that is with the opposite of the truth.
Dir_en_grey  +   534d ago
Well, it's good that Konami didn't tell Hayter why they didn't need him for this game, or else he'd probably be tweeting it now and spoiling the story.
DragonKnight  +   534d ago
@Larry L: Except Hayter has been talking about how he won't be a part of MGS5 for awhile now. Remember the Tweet where he asked fans if they'd want to see him in the game or not? The likelihood of it being an April Fools joke is slim.
Gaming101  +   534d ago
I'm with David Hayter on this one. I'll feel a bit sick to hear anyone other than him voicing snake. If it's not Richard Doyle I'll be extremely pissed. Hayter is not Metal Gear, but Hayter IS Snake. They already tried MGS without Snake on MGS2, and it was shite playing as Raiden compared to Snake.
Ritsujun  +   534d ago
DH's acting more and more like that JB sissy.
NukaCola  +   534d ago
Yeah, Die Hard 4 wasnt even a die hard flick, it was some book they put Mclane into and it wasn't Die Hard. Never saw the last one. I think I trust Kojima, but it hurts a little.
Tultras  +   534d ago
Loved the games, specially die hard 3..

Can anyone remember the catch phrase which was most used in the game???
RetrospectRealm  +   534d ago
Die Hard 3 is not a game.
Braid  +   534d ago
Assumimg that it was not a typo, would that be Die Hard Trilogy for SEGA Saturn/Playstation? If that's the case, "yippee-ki-yay!" is what you're looking for.

On topic: The new voice sounds good enough, if the character was Solid I'd have a real problem with it, but it's Big Boss, and as he was voiced by Doyle in the fourth installment we already know that his voice wil naturallyl change as he gets older. The Ground Zeroes part though, is still problematic. I wish they could get Hayter back for the GZ part, and let the new actor do his job on the Phantom Pain part. That'd be my perfect solution.
Tultras  +   533d ago
Yeah, I meant the Trilogy.

I meant that but thought it was die hard 3, lol.

Been a long time since I played that. ;)
MariaHelFutura  +   534d ago
David Hayter and Hideo Kojima are trolling all MGS fans hard. Him saying this on April 1st makes it pretty clear. When it comes to info that seems out of place.... dont trust these people, I thought people would have figured it out by now.
thesummerofgeorge  +   534d ago
I agree. Right down to Hayter saying he sat down to lunch with someone 'involved in the production' who said he wouldn't be needed, without any explanation as to why. I have a hard time believing they would get together for lunch specifically to discuss the matter, only to say "you're out", with no explanation whatsoever, and leave it at that. Not only would that be weird, but disrespectful to Hayter, who's been Solid Snake for 15 years.
J_Cob  +   534d ago
I learned my lesson with MGS2. Kojima will not fool me again.
god_o_war  +   533d ago
i have the same feeling. He loves trolling keeps the wait more interesting :)
WUTCHUGUNNADO  +   534d ago
Easy solution for you guys... if you don't like the fact that Hayter isn't going to be in MGS5 then don't buy MGS5. I'm sure the lack of sales will knock some sense into them.
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hkgamer  +   534d ago
I don't like the fact that Hayter won't reprise his role as snake in the new MGS. But to be honest, it won't stop me from playing the game.

I still think Kojima should have tried to see if hayter could have changed his voice a little to suit the new Big Boss.

Does anyone know if the japanese version of big boss have the same voice style as all the other games? I know they got the same voice actor but has he done anything different with the voice?
Root  +   534d ago
Such a shame

Kojima is such a douche...sorry but it has to be said. The problem is Kojima has become such a "icon" in the gaming industry that whatever he says is automatically gold, he could create a crap game and it would get good reviews.

If he's not trolling us he's basicaly done this for nothing

1) The Japanese voice actor for Snake is still returning

2) Kojima talked about "recreating the MGS" franchise yet thats his reason for leaving David out.....if that was the case thats something you would say if you were rebooting the series.

3) He said that this time it's his last MGS game (I know he's said it before) but if it was why get rid of him. You may aswell include him

I really don't think MGSV should of been another prequel. If he wanted to do a sequel he should of found a way to bring Solid Snake back....someway.
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hkgamer  +   534d ago
yeah it is a shame, kojima wanted a new vision thus leaving hayter out but keeping otsuka.

He said this would be his last MGS game. He didn't say it would be the last one though, its a series he knows Konami/Kojima Productions will never let go. I am guessing he will take a ligher role like he did for portable ops.

MGS doesn't need a sequel, 4 was the perfect ending to the series. Wrapped up almost everything and Solid Snakes journey is over and he can finally rest.

However, the problem with the prequels is that it makes BB so awesome that SS is overshadowed.
TheXonySbox  +   534d ago
voice actors dont make video games.
Gameplay and story does.
TheXonySbox  +   534d ago
If you disagree you are clearly delusional fanboys. Get real. Lighten up. Seriously, lol!
awesomeperson  +   533d ago
Voice actors contribute to both the story and the gameplay in my opinion. It would be completely offputting to have a character who is in no way matched by a voice actor. Thus not having a fitting voice actor would negatively affect how you perceive the story, and to some lesser extent also the gameplay (as voice actors do speak during generally play).
Mainman  +   534d ago
I like David Hayter. But Snake sounded really awesome in the trailer as well though. I wanna give the new actor a chance.
FriedGoat  +   534d ago
That wasn't snake talking in the trailer, it was the bandages guy.
KwietStorm  +   534d ago
What trailer did you hear Snake in? Are you talking about Keifer Sutherland? Or at least the guy who sounds like Keifer Sutherland?
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jcnba28  +   534d ago
Yeah man I totally know how you feel...

First world problems.
DeadlyFire  +   533d ago
Why am I reading this on April 1st? I feel like its another mind game.

Snake isn't in this game well as an adult. So I expect Hayter's voice isn't really required as in MGS 4 they felt an older Big Boss would have a different voice likely that is why he is not in this game. Still won't be bad though we know Kojima will do it right.
Donnieboi  +   533d ago
Kojima-san:

-Disrespects Hayter by not telling him to his face that he doesn't want him back for MGS V.
-Cancels MGO2, knowing it may take 2-3 years until we ever get another one. Doesn't care, gives it to an AMERICAN (-_-) dev team that he whips up out of nowhere to make the sequel, even though they may not have ever played any of the past MGO games).
-Trolls us with that Jaokim nonsense which was anticlamactic feeling when he finally revealed that TTP was MGS V.

I love Kojima, but lately i'm getting annoyed.
sengoku  +   533d ago
meww i'm used to hideo kojima always trying to kill off the metal gear series.

it never takes him long to shoot out an eye, saw off a arm death by old age or letting a completely unknown take the lead role.

lets face it's always been this way with him.
peace walker is the only exception in which the lead character gets away to fight another day without been blinded or chopped up (odd really)

i have loved an hated every thing he has ever done to the series and i will buy this next installment on day one whatever he does.
because to me he is just great at creating very good games. love the series and it's always been worth every penny i spent on it.

wish david the best and i wont be surprised that we will see him again..
DanielForth  +   533d ago
I bet this is All just an elaborate Troll, Hayter Not returning? this Game seems to be delivered or marketed in Parts, One Has to ask themselves So he's Not returning for this Part but what about the other... So hes not in the Prologue? so what.. ?
Xaphy  +   534d ago
:(
black911  +   534d ago
This is Why In The Link!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Cloudberry  +   534d ago
Damn...
.
: (
GrieverSoul  +   534d ago
I still cant get over the fact that this guy´s voice aint gonna be on MGS:5.

I feel this is a giant troll from Kojima and Hayter.
Adding the fact that he posts this on 1st of April... I dont know...
Batzi  +   534d ago
Yes but he wrote this on April 1st..
e-p-ayeaH  +   534d ago
yeah we can still hope xD
zerocrossing  +   534d ago
Everyone should note that it's April 1st (AKA April fools day) Im not saying theirs definite foolery afoot but it seems kinds odd don't ya think?
Eamon  +   534d ago
The man himself has said this is no April Fools.

https://twitter.com/DavidBH...
hiptanaka  +   534d ago
Maybe him saying it isn't an April Fool's joke is an April Fool's joke itself?
vazurahan  +   533d ago
But then he suddenly deleted the tweet. It's like Konami saying, "Hey! You two (HK & DH) are going overboard!!!"
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ziggurcat  +   534d ago
except info on hayter not being in mgs5 has been out for a while now... so i doubt it's an april fools joke.
Batzi  +   534d ago
Many pranks had started prior to April 1st only to be revealed later that they were jokes on that day. Sometimes, realism(to convince someone) requires more than a day to achieve :P
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Coltrane_C  +   534d ago
I actually think this is no April Fool's. I think that Kojima wants to go in another direction. His letter was too sincere to be a joke.
WUTCHUGUNNADO  +   534d ago
and that's where the conflict lies.
Batzi  +   534d ago
Sincere? Exactly what they want you to believe. You think Kojima would make it obvious? Think again.
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Sandmano  +   534d ago
@Xaphy that is soooooooo besides the point :D
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xBigxBossx  +   534d ago
"!"
Buuhan1  +   534d ago
But didn't he on several occasions say he wanted to hang up the coat on Snake due to the voice getting really hard on him? If that's true he can't really claim to be a victim now, for all he knows those comments may have been one of the reasons that led to this. I'd think if Kojima realized that Hayter was in physical pain performing the voice he'd look into relieving him.
oof46  +   534d ago
I don't know if he said it in jest, but I remember Hayter saying before each recording session, he had to smoke almost half a pack to get his voice gruff enough.

This is kind of like the transition that Splinter Cell is going through with Michael Ironside getting replaced.
illustratedDEO  +   534d ago
yo that kinda sucks and is pretty much a kick in the grind,If Hayter wasn't called upon in production of this game, Kojipro better have a good reason.
2pacalypsenow  +   534d ago
first Splinter cell now MGS :-/
krontaar  +   534d ago
APRIL FOOLS.

Oh kojima, you always do this.
WitWolfy  +   534d ago
Dude just that you know... This was announced long before April fools so guess again..
krontaar  +   534d ago
Still just a publicity stunt as usual.
RyuX19  +   534d ago
Yes, but he didn't have to write this all out and release on April 1st. That makes what he wrote questionable.
Maldread  +   534d ago | Well said
That`s completely hopeless Kojima. What the hell are you thinking??

This has to be the most stupid decision Kojima has ever done. And that`s including making SPOILER ALERT!!!! Raiden a lead character in MGS2.

Instead of gaining positive response after the showing of MGS V, all the fans can think about now is !!!! Changing the iconic voice of Snake is suicide for the series. It would be like removing Charlie Sheen from Two and a half men. And we all know how well that went. Without him there isn`t a show any more, becuase he`s the show, and the reason why you watch it.

The same is it with Snake`s personality. He`s the reason why people want to play the MGS-games. Without Hayter`s voice there isn`t any more Snake.

I see some people pointing out that this is Big Boss and that`s why he shouldn`t have the same voice as Solid Snake. But why did Hayter then voice him in MGS3 and the portable MGS-games? Why is Akio Ōtsuka still voicing him in the japanese version, if Kojima wanted a change? It dosn`t make any sense.

I hope the fans speak up about this, bacause i don`t want to see Kojima doing another George Lucas to his series. Of course some people will say that it`s his game and he could do what he wants with it. But it`s also the fans that Kojima is making the game for. That`s the whole point of doing it isn`t it? Kojima isn`t the only one who get`s to have an opinion of the direction to take the series.

Just think how well Star Wars could`ve turned out it someone stoped Lucas from going la lu li la lo mental with Star Wars? How well did MGS2 turn out in the end compared to MGS1 and MGS3? Kojima isn`t allways right, and the least he needs is more puppets around him, who will just agree with everything he does.

For those who think characters arn`t important in video games, look at the new reboot of Dante in Devil May Cry. The sales were abysmal because you don`t spit your fans in the face and think they don`t care. In a series like MGS the story and characters are even more important than in DMC. So why fuck with what`s perfect already?

Without Hayter as Big Boss i just can`t see myself picking the game up. The only reason i could except it, is if Hayter would voice Solid Snake in the game and he would fight Big Boss and they didn`t want him talking to himself. But i don`t see that as likely. Why is Akio Ōtsuka still voicing him in the japanese version, if that`s the case? I really hope this is some kind of joke, but i don`t think so unfortunately :(

I really hope Kojima comes to his senses, but i doubt it really. I don`t mean to sound pessimistic, but he`s a hard man to change once he`s made up his mind.

I do believe though that the chance will increase if enough people will voice their concerns about it, so i`m hoping as many as possible will do so. He definatly needs to hear it as soon as possible, before it`s too late.
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WitWolfy  +   534d ago
Took the word straight out of my mouth!
JAM_brz  +   534d ago
I think putting Hayter in the voice of Big Boss in MGS3 was a mistake. As was in Portable MGS serie. *Spoiler* was a little weird when a saw Big Boss and Snake together in the final of MGS4, with different voices..

But now that the mistake was made, it's time to left Hayter work again with Big Boss
Coltrane_C  +   534d ago
Agreed if he would have handled it like that then this wouldn't even been an issue but you can start something like that and do a 180 and grab someone else. It is crazy. Now if it is Richard Doyle then I understand because of MGS4 but if it is not Doyle either then Kojima has some hardcore explaining to do. Now Kojima owes us nothing it is his game and we have a choice to buy it or not but this news is really unsettling.
GdaTyler  +   533d ago
Also take into consideration that Big Boss was burned to shit in his later years. If that didn't change his voice I don't know what will. That and it would be confusing to hear two characters with the same voice.
xBigxBossx  +   534d ago
To say you won't pick up mgs v is sacrilegious. Would Hayter be missed? Yes. But lets by forget this game is Kojima... He is MGS... Nobody else is. I love Hayter... But people sayin they won't pick up Kojimas next baby makes me LOL.
Maldread  +   534d ago
Well you could say the same thing about Two and a half men, and how well is that series going without Sheen? Dead in a ditch, yes it is.

Kojima is a fantastic game creator, but ditching the main chararcter is like saying game over.

It reminds me of movies where they don`t have any of the main characters left and are stuck with nobodies that nobody cares about.

A big part of Snake`s personality is his voice. It`the reason why people find him iconic. How well would Kratos in GOW work if they had changed his voice actor? Drake`s in Uncharted? Darth Vader in Star Wars?

It just wouldn`t be the same character any more. And trust me Snake is damn important in the games. Why do you think people hated Raiden so much to begin with? That alone shows that Kojima dosn`t allways make the right decisions with his games.
KiRBY3000  +   534d ago
Kojima is MGS just as much as Hayter is Snake's voice.
xBigxBossx  +   534d ago
Don't get me wrong.. I'm not happy about David not being the voice of my beloved Big Boss. I just can't imagine not playing MGSV. Ill be popping in on all these people calling strike on this game when it comes out :)
SpecialK  +   534d ago
Am I the only person who didn't mind Raiden being the main character in MGS2?

I mean Snake is awesome but I liked the twist at the beginning and thought the game was still great, like all of them.

Change is good every now and then.

Id have liked to play as Boss. If I remember rightly she was around during WW2?

Just checked she was involved in D day, now sneaking around during that, with enemies everywhere fighting. Thats what I want.

Could be possible on next gen hardware too.
Darrius Cole  +   534d ago
"Am I the only person who didn't mind Raiden being the main character in MGS2? "

No, I'm sure there are two of you. There has to be another person who liked Raiden out there somewhere.
rainslacker  +   534d ago
There are many fine voice actors out there who could likely perform the role of snake. I don't know any of their names because quite honestly, outside a couple VA's that people go on about, most don't gives a crap about them.

MGS games are about the story and stealth game play. If Hayter were to return, I say great, he did a good job, but if not then I(and likely many others) probably wouldn't have even noticed if people weren't making such a big deal about it.

In summary, MGS is not a vehicle for Hayter, it is a creation of Kojima. People like what Hayter did with the character, and he deserves props for him dedication and ability, but it is a much different scenario than 2-1/2 Men or any other star driven show.
Tultras  +   534d ago
I think that there would be a good reason for not including him, and the interest of the fans was taken into account.

This is Hideo Kojima, not EA/Acti.
abzdine  +   534d ago
no David Hayter no Snake for me! and no Snake no MGS game for me either...
man it's like watching DBZ in swedish, that thing sounds aweful.
JAM_brz  +   534d ago
Hey Konami.. wake up...

all of MGS fans wants Hayter... why took him out of the project? There's no "real" Snake without Hayter. If Snake is a clone, I will treat this other Snake voice as well.

Bring back Hayter and stop that bullshit.

Or, thinking again, today it's April Fool, and Kojima like to play a lot with their fans.
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firelogic  +   534d ago
Listen you whiners. You love MGS because of Kojima, not because of a voice. You've loved every game in the series thus far so trust the man that delivered all those great games to do the right thing. If he doesn't want Hayter doing the voice then there's a reason for it. Whether it's a creative thing or just that he hates him, the bottom line is the game isn't going to suffer in the slightest because Hayter's not doing Big Boss' voice.

The groundwork was already layed when he got Richard Doyle to do BB's voice. Now he's going to get someone else to do it that will eventually transition into Doyle's version.

So sit tight and wait.

PS
Were you all up in arms over the fact that Hayter wasn't talking to himself at the end of MGS4? No? Well you should have been if this is the kind of ridiculous reaction you're giving.

And as much I love Hayter's Snake voice, he was horrible in MGS4. He tried to do an old snake and failed imo.
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Eamon  +   534d ago
Kojima already gave his reason why. He said that he wanted a new voice because MGS is taking a bold new direction and will be very different to older MGS games.

Basically, there's no real signficant reason. Akio Otsuka, the japanese voice of Snake, is returning.

So, in reality this does feel like a selfish decision made by Kojima.
JAM_brz  +   534d ago
I disagree with you, but I respect your opinion.

But I think you commited an error for saying Hayter failed to do Snake in MGS4. Snake was old, but just in the appearance, not in the voice. I think the voice was very well implemented in a man that was suffering... but he wasn't old for the "age". So I think Hayter not tried to do an old voice.
theDECAY  +   534d ago
I also thought Hayters voice in MGS4 was pretty awful. I mean bad enough to sort of suck me out of the action at some points. I'm pretty sure it's not just me.
Omar91  +   534d ago
How did you guys think Hayters voice in MGS4 was awful? he sounded groggier, raspier and "older" thats what he wanted everyone to notice, how bad snake was suffering due to the aging. It wasn't only just appearance. He was clearly deteriorating inside as well. If you listen to the beginning of MGS4, snake sounds less raspier then how he does towards the end. I thought it was perfect the way he played it out.
leahcim  +   534d ago
oh come on Kojima-san!

we are talking of a voice that defined at least two generations of gamers here!
Pillsbury1  +   534d ago
I think kojimas and hayter need to be in an interview together to finally sort the reason as to why he was not in it. This is kojima and he just won't backstabbing us loyal fans for no reason, he's not EA.
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theDECAY  +   534d ago
Why would be do that? He built MGS from the ground up and he can do whatever he wants.
LarVanian  +   534d ago
As much as I respect Kojima, his reason for replacing Hayter is rather silly IMO. He accordingly wants MGS5 to be a reinvention of the series and believes that replacing Hayter will serve as a reflection of the change.
I could understand this if Kojima was actually rebooting MGS or creating an all new protagonist. But the fact is, this is still the same Naked Snake/Big Boss we have all come to know and love. The same Naked Snake who has been voiced by Hayter in previous games. It would only make sense that he continues to voice Snake.
thecurseddevil  +   534d ago
i agree,and by the way if he wants to reinvent the series why is japanese voice actor the same.
infamousinfolite  +   534d ago
It's amazing how one change in a person's voice can change the hearts of many. Of course, all fans of MGS loved both Kojima and Hayter, individually. The game (Metal Gear Solid V) may be one of the best games Kojima has done in a while and yet it probably won't matter to many people if Hayter is not voicing Big Boss.
oldassgamer  +   534d ago
Maybe this is Kojima's way of preparing us for the death of Snake. By replacing (killing) the voice of Snake we become disconnected from the character, and it becomes easier to accept the death of Snake...and possibly the MGS series (!)
OpieWinston  +   534d ago
First Ironside isn't in Splinter Cell Blacklist...
NOW
David hayter isn't in MGSZ....

Spy Games are dead I guess. 2013 the year Spy games die.

Not buying Blacklist or Zeroes. (Doubt I'll make much of a difference in sales XD)
FungLip  +   534d ago
We've been played. The timing of Hayter's tweets and now this on April 1st? Something is definitely up.
Lucreto  +   534d ago
I still feel this is an April Fool.

Kojima likes playing with our heads.

Why he waited for April Fool's Day to write that? Really?
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kostchtchie_  +   534d ago
would not be surprised if this was Kojima's team again, they swayed his hand in MGS4 and MGRaiden, and probably pushing him on this new MGS5, really sad, it may have been kojimas writing, but it was David Hayter's voice and emotion to that character that pushed so many into loving the metal gear series
mojitality  +   534d ago
mgs without david hyter is like a sandwich without soda i hope they reconsider
thecurseddevil  +   534d ago
whats up with these stealth games,
first michael ironside is not in splinter cell anymore,
then this..
this whole not featuring hayter as snake to give metal gear a new feel feels all bullshit to me.
TacticProductionz  +   534d ago
April Fool's Day :)
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