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Watch the Battlefield 4 trailer at 60FPS

Last week's GDC Battlefield 4 demo looked pretty spectacular, even when viewed via heavily compressed streaming video, so when we acquired a high-bitrate 1080p version of the trailer running at the full 60 frames per second, we knew we had to share it with you. The only problem: actually getting the footage to run smoothly on a webpage. (Battlefield 4, EA, PC, PS3, Xbox 360)

YoungPlex  +   1043d ago
Wow, I'm hoping that the PS4 will be able to render this at 1080p maintaining it at 60fps, but if it doesn't I'll definitely be upgrading to a next-gen PC as well! Epic in 1080p/60fps!!!
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resi5  +   1043d ago
its been confirmed that it will do so it will almost be on par with current pc versions
thechosenone  +   1043d ago
DICE hasn't offered up anything info about resolution/fps for consoles and for the record, 720p@60fps is nothing to sneeze at.
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Kevin ButIer  +   1043d ago
We prefer 720 @ 60 fps over 1080 @ 30 fps right?

Anyway PS4 should be able to play BF4 1080 60 fps anyday, no excuse IMO...
M-M  +   1043d ago
I think DICE is going for 1080p 30FPS, and 720p 60FPS for consoles. I doubt they would do that though, because people would complain about people playing in 720p have the advantage =P.
thechosenone  +   1043d ago
my bad for current gen hardware it'll be the same as BF3 but for next-gen things are still up in the air...the rumors claim BF4's MP will run at 720/60fps, the SP however could run at 1080/30fps which I don't think too many people would mind...
60fps is critical for FPS MP and if DICE wants to take on COD next gen then that's the target they need to hit.
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Nick_515  +   1043d ago
1080p/60fps shouldn't be a problem for the PS4. It could just be DICE trying to squeeze out more visuals, though, but hopefully we don't see anything in 720p from here on out. If a dev decides to go with 1080p/30fps, fine. Just as long as it works out design wise. But, a dev deciding to go with 720p just so they can get 60fps is bad happening on next gen consoles. They either need to optimize or stop shooting for visuals that they can't reach, but let's be honest, that shouldn't be a problem.

Edit: Okay, watching the video, I'm probably 30 seconds in, but already I can tell that if the PS4 isn't in 1080p and 60fps, I'm gonna be upset. It looks really good. I'm gonna download the video and see what it really looks like. :)
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Kevin ButIer  +   1043d ago
Ok, after watching the video I must say... 60 fps or GTFO lol
Autodidactdystopia  +   1043d ago
Can anyone just trust me by now? look at my previous comments and their fallacy/truth ratio.

Look at my youtube Autodidactdystopia.

I do this "SHI..sTuff" for a living.

Heres what I have to say. The ps4 will not be 60 if at 1080, I promise you this.
but if lower say 1440 it could probably do it.

the bf4 demo was showcased on 2 7990s. if you look at titan, which nvidia says is 3x more powerful than the amd gpu in ps4; and you consider the fact that amd is calling the 7990 the "worlds fastest single card gpu" (although that means 2 gpus on a single pcb which are no match for nvidia's chips {honestly}..... um well that concept is based on the fact that ati comes out with a dual chip gpu to compete with nvidas singles on almost a genreational basis. and every time the ATI gpu is faster than nvidia's. (although due to what i would call cheating.)


given that nvidia is shitting bricks at the moment ill give them 2x the speed of the ps4's gpu.

from my personal yet well documented (on the web) {reviews etc for cards} ati's new 7990 will be slightly faster than the titan. slightly.

the fact that the demo ran on two of them means its a beast to pull off that level of dynamism in game.

to be short 2 7990s are faster than 1 titan by a lot and if a titan is at least 2x faster than the ps4 gpu then.... well

No I promise you if bf4 is 1080 on ps4 then the game will not run 60fps UNLESS, severe graphical shortcuts are made.

If you dont mind graphical shortcuts then this is no issue.

but at its current state, and even beta/gold

bf4 will not run 60fps at what is considered an "ULTRA" setting.

if you really care you can check out my experience via my comment history and or my yt channel.

don't get ahead of yourselves. as the ps3 and the promises that it brought took the entire generation to finally die, due to extreme yet blind support by unwitting followers of the sony brand..

msoft is just as bad.

I really sincerely do know my sh....stuff. just a little research will show you that. anyhow goodnight fellas.

dont slaughter the messenger. ;P

edit: but my lord do the last few seconds of that trailer look gorgeous or what?
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REDGUM  +   1043d ago
I was under the impression that the ps4 version will run at 720p @ 60FPS.
I've read up abit on this epic game franchise.
I could be wrong though.

Reguardless, i'll be picking it up day one.

Game on guys!
BitbyDeath  +   1042d ago
PS4 version hasn't been announced yet.
Only PC, PS3 and 360.
SlapHappyJesus  +   1042d ago
Dice hasn't confirmed any of the sort. As far as we know right now, the game is running at 720p and they are trying to push for 1080p.
As for the overall graphical fidelity of the game, well, nothing has been confirmed for that either.
neoandrew  +   1043d ago
Actually, if ps4 has 1080p 30 fps it would be still very good.
Lior  +   1043d ago
This is what u are missing out console players so stop bitchin saying 60fps doesn't matter and damage controlling every fps out on ps3/xbox
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ABizzel1  +   1043d ago

It's possible, but it won't look like that trailer because they'll have to make so sacrifices in quality (it'll look great still, just not apples apples).

The PS4 is theoretically on par with the HD 7850 & HD 7950m (although around 10% better).

Those GPU's can only run BF3 in 1080p @ 35fps on Ultra with 4xMSAA.

Now the PS4 is a dedicated gaming platform and it has much faster RAM so it should see a few more FPS than those PC's maybe 40fps.

There are 2 ways to get 60fps from BF4 on PS4.

1. Use FXAA instead of MSAA, and do some console optimizations. (Slight Blur)
(7850 1080p @ 50fps on Ultra FXAA)

2. Drop the resolution to 1680x1550 (imo 900p) and 2xMSAA (Sharp image)
(7850 900p @ 55fps on High 2xMSAA)
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papashango  +   1042d ago
I'm with you on 900p. No fps gamer should want to settle at 30 fps. Cut out AA altogether to achieve 60 imo
Killjoy3000  +   1042d ago
How do you download this video directly from the PS3 browser? It won't let me -_-
cellmember  +   1041d ago
@Autodidactdystopia also the games was running at 3k resolution. that is something to factor into it and titan is at least 3x more powerful than the ps4 gpu
Rearden  +   1043d ago
OMG the loading times could not be any slower on Eurogamer. Here's a direct download link for the video:!YdoHED...

Somebody upload it to YouTube or something...
Nitrowolf2  +   1043d ago
eh Youtube encodes it to 29FPS though I think
konnerbllb  +   1042d ago
That's the joke.
iRocket  +   1043d ago
Darn, that looked gorgeous at 60 FPS. I totally need to upgrade my PC to get that eye-candy out of the game!
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KONAAs  +   1043d ago
upgrade a monitor also if u really whant the best, get a 4k tv, ha no one will they are $20,000 or more, thats what i taught
WUTCHUGUNNADO  +   1043d ago
So many minute details are noticeable when the frame rate isn't cut in half. The bounce in the cloths is much more apparent now.
RE_L_MAYER  +   1043d ago
I record videos on gopro and to be honest there isnt much difference between 720 and 1080 so 720 is still acceptable as for 60 frames it does make a difference compare to 30 on videos so hopefully fps cap will raise up
SideShort  +   1043d ago
Well, for PC elitists... the difference in 720 and 1080 is a matter of LIFE AND THE F***IN TORTURE OF THE GODS BEYOND TILL DEATH'S GRACE RELEASES US FROM THIS 720p HELL.
Pandamobile  +   1043d ago
Dude, 720p looks like complete ass if you're used to 1080p.
JAMurida  +   1043d ago
lmao, I actually laughed a while to that one.

I downloaded the 1080p/60fps version and booted it up on my PS3 to watch on my HDTV to see what it would be like, looks pretty dam good. When it comes down to it though, all I care about is if it's fun or not. MAG is like PS2 HD graphics, 20-25 fps but I still play it to this day over every other shooter because it's fun. Hopefully BF4 will take it's spot...
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specialguest  +   1042d ago
the problem with console only players
Most console only players have little to no real world visual concept of how much clearer, sharper, and better 1080p is to 720p. There's a big difference when we're comparing AAA level games.

What i found hilarious is that these console fanboys(specifically one particular console fanboys) were bashing the hell out of the Wii U for still running games at 720p, and now? Lol suddenly 720p is acceptable and 1080p doesn't seem to matter much.

In the near future when they finally play real games in 1080p, they'll. Be blown away and talk about how amazing it is when its actually pretty standard for the past several years.
SideShort  +   1042d ago
Well, ignorance is bliss.

& Crysis 2 bored the sh*t out of me on ultra settings. LOL.
Eyesoftheraven  +   1043d ago
haha! Now I'm not going to sit here and type in depth on technically why, but generally speaking, you don't notice a difference on the GoPro because the GoPro sensor is tiny. Also, the compression on those things is terrible. Same with Digital SLRs, except they at least have large sensors. If you had a chance to see RAW 4:4:4 ARRI Alexa footage at 720p vs 1080p you'd very clearly see a difference, no pun intended. This is also true if not especially true for video games.
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KontryBoy706  +   1043d ago
yup this is the way we pc gamers have enjoyed BF3! I will be enjoying BF4 the same way nothing less than 1080p at 60fps
coolmast3r  +   1043d ago
1080p@60fps...yummy :D this is going to be. a stunning experience :)
iRocket  +   1042d ago
Heh, I wonder what the disagrees are for. What you said is just the truth.
KontryBoy706  +   1042d ago
yeah I have no idea. It wasn't like I trolled or anything or said anything wrong.
1886afc  +   1042d ago
I got 2 7950's baby!
glennco  +   1043d ago
They really are going after CoD this time around. It is only us gamers that will lose out... BF has been slowly dumbed down more and more to get the casual crowd I am starting to lose interest. All I see is linear scripted gameplay broken up with cutscenes, but at 60 frames no less. Look at the purdy pixels.

Just show us multiplayer already, we don't care about the campaign, if we want to play CoD we'll buy CoD.
coolmast3r  +   1043d ago
i hate people mentioning cod in a Battlefield news. really guys, go somewhere else and whine, BATTLEFIELD is unique game so no need to mention other games here.
a_squirrel  +   1042d ago
It's funny because all CoD is, is "linear scripted gameplay broken up with cutscenes, but at 60 frames"
KwietStorm  +   1043d ago
I keep seeing people talk up the 1080 res. Yes, obviously 1080p at 60fps would be optimal, but it hurts my head when I keep seeing people say they would take 1080 at 30 instead of 720 at 60. The resolution bump would be nice, but the fps is what actually affects *gameplay* and is imperative for a smooth overall experience, especially if that frame rate is actually stable. A lot of games got away with faking their resolution this gen, but people were fine with it, most likely because you can't even tell the difference or because the game is just good anyway. With all of the detail going on in Battlefield, especially if the destruction goes back to Bad Company, I would have no problems at all with it *only* being 720p at 60 fps, but that's of course if they can't do 1080 @ 60.
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hesido  +   1043d ago
Couldn't agree more. (Yes, I tried, it says "already voted")

Another thing about resolution, the further you sit away from the screen, the more diminished return you get from resolution, as the human eye can resolve around 60th of a degree. That is not the same case with frames per second. You'll always have double the amount of spatial information. You'd have to sit 15 meters away from a typical tv screen to not notice any difference between 30fps and 60fps (bigger the movement, easier to notice)

Anyone else notice the bubbles animation in the beginning is 30fps? I thought I downloaded the wrong video because of it!
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Software_Lover  +   1042d ago
I think they just want the resolution to match their tv screens, lol. I play at 1200p 60+ fps on my pc, but I sit much closer to the screen than I would if it were on my television. 1080p 12ft away will have no benefit IMHO. 720p should suffice. You could get a greater amount of detail in the game, more effects, smoother frame rate and still make people happy.
Tonester925  +   1043d ago
Wish you could take someones head off with a Sniper.
Yukicore  +   1043d ago
It would look amazing on a console with 60fp/s, but I am not sure why, but on PC 60fp/s looks like 30fp/s on console for me, and I have a high end system. All the latest and best hardware. Why is that?
peowpeow  +   1042d ago
You went into the dev console and typed /max_fps 30 lol
Yukicore  +   1041d ago
But people it's true. Consoles use some kind of smoothening feature and have better overall hardware compatibility and synchronization. Haven't you noticed that 30FP/s on console looks really smooth, but on PC it is a horrible frame-rate.
Plagasx  +   1043d ago
Is anyone else having problems running the 1080p one smoothly on VLC media player? I have a good PC (gtx 680, 3570k) and it's only going at like 45fps...
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peowpeow  +   1043d ago
It might be your hard drive.. I had the same problem after recording 60 fps through FRAPS

Edit: actually mine was a buffering problem
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ExCest  +   1042d ago
That's because VLC sucks.

Use K-Lite Codec Pack and get MPC Star.
DwightOwen  +   1042d ago
I've got a GTX 680 and i7 3770k and have the same problem. VLC is great for 99% of what's out there, but this file still stuttered for me as well (the 2.5GB HD 60fps one).

Run it in Windows Media Player and you should have no problem.
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thechosenone  +   1042d ago
never had a problem with VLC playback until now, I have yet to play a file my comp can't handle, even 4K vid.


the transition from consoles to PC and going from 30fps to 60fps was a bit weird for me at first, it was a very strange feeling gaming in 60fps and truth be told it made me feel a bit stick(lol) but after 3yrs of gaming on the PC I just can't game any other way, that's why I'm hoping that the majority of PS4 titles try and target 60fps.
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Tei777  +   1043d ago
I still think 60fps looks weird and kinda cheap. Although I'm sure its benefits to the gameplay are more important then just just the appearance.

I feel I'm the only person in the world who feels this way :(
floetry101  +   1043d ago
I think the misconception with 60fps is that it apparently doesn't offer the "cinematic" experience of 30fps.

This video is impressive, but it still doesn't translate to really playing the game at that clip. It is unmatched, poetry in motion when you get to feel that detail at it's very best. I'll always have a place for consoles, but when a game comes along with this much mouthwatering destruction, I like to appreciate it at 60fps. I sincerely hope the PS4 does just that.
Software_Lover  +   1042d ago
Have you ever played a game over 30fps?
Tei777  +   1042d ago
yeah, call of duty and metal gear revengeance automatically come to mind. I only play on consoles though so 60fps is a rarity lol
FreakdoutKid  +   1043d ago
i dont think ps4 will do 1080 at 60fps since gpu is not that great..but 720p 60fps is definitly KZ4 was running at 30fps i dont think
isyourhouseonfire  +   1042d ago
BF4 is dead on arrival. Still, it might be worth buying if only for the novelty of owning it.
JohnApocalypse  +   1042d ago
Why can't more video players run at 60fps?
ephoenix6  +   1042d ago
you can access youtube videos at 60 fps by clicking a video, scrolling to the bottom of the page and clicking try something new, and joining the html5 beta. I also suggest the feather beta for a more stable stream
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