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Submitted by Valay 1048d ago | news

Rein says he wasn't laughing at Wii U, points out UE3 critical success

Epic's Mark Rein seemingly laughed at the question when asked if Unreal Engine 4 would be available for Wii U. Rein has since clarified that this is not the case, and has also pointed out Unreal Engine 3's success on the Wii U/PS3/360. (PS3, Unreal Engine 4, Wii U, Xbox 360)

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DaThreats  +   1048d ago
Too Late Rein, you were laughing to it.
NYC_Gamer  +   1048d ago
It's sad that he is trying to save face when many sites reported that he was indeed laughing at Wii-U
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LOL_WUT  +   1048d ago
The damage has been done so, we can all pretty much put this behind us now. ;)
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BattleAxe   1048d ago | Trolling | show
HammadTheBeast  +   1048d ago
Before: Haha, you really think it can handle the power of UE4?!

After: Hey, UE3's nothing to laugh at, it sold well last gen, it as used for some great games.
pixelsword  +   1047d ago
He needs to save face after it was reported that Mass Effect won't be using the Unreal Engine anymore.
Freedomland  +   1047d ago
I really respect Nintendo for their contribution to the gaming world although I' am not a big fan.
In 90s Nintendo and Sony really paved the way for the home consoles, if it wasn't for them, we wouldn't be here in the gaming.
AllroundGamer  +   1047d ago
Yep the damage is done.

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die_fiend  +   1048d ago
Poor get out argument but let's put it like this:

Samaritan, Elemental, Infiltrator. Wii U.

fatstarr  +   1048d ago
I bet you if enough money is on the table the wiiu will run it.

dont let them bs anyone. smh the wiiu is a low mid tier gaming pc and the ps4 and nextbox are basically mid tier pcs.

the ps3/360 are not even ranked as the lowest of lowest ranked gaming pcs decimate that hardware.
DarkHeroZX  +   1047d ago
lol Wii U isn't even close to low pc. It's only a notch above ps3.
die_fiend  +   1047d ago
It's low mid tier gaming pc? And ps4 is mid tier. So there's not much difference in your eyes? Tell me some wii u games that look half as good as killzone or uncharted. According to your those aren't even the lowest ranking gaming pcs but they are currently still ahead of ninty's next gen efforts. It's really this simple: in terms of power of the console, Nintendo fell behind in a big way
jcnba28  +   1048d ago
Sorry to burst your bubble fanboys..
profgerbik  +   1047d ago
Did you even read the article, no probably just read the title I am assuming. This is about him completely changing his story now.

"Rein spoke with Engadget and clarified his comment from the presentation, noting that it's totally possible to run Unreal Engine 4 games on Wii U. "You heard the stupid gaffe yesterday about the Wii U," he said. "If someone wants to take Unreal Engine 4 and ship a game on Wii U, they can! If they wanna ship an Unreal Engine 4 game on Xbox 360, they could make it happen."

So is his engine really not that impressive? Or he is just full of shit? In my eyes yes it isn't this impressive this time around especially if it will still run well on the PS3 and Xbox 360. I am not going to discredit what Unreal has done but this time around they are not the best in my eyes.

Maybe I am blind.
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AngelicIceDiamond  +   1048d ago
At this point it is laughable. Nintendo pitched hard at E3 about having third party support and so far major publishers are skipping it.
madpuppy  +   1047d ago
He wasn't laughing AT the WiiU but, WITH it.
Blaze929  +   1047d ago
he has a right to laugh. It's his opinion, his question, his company. Who cares. Nintendo screwed up with their hardware yet again. No 3rd party support will be even further alienated.
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Shok  +   1048d ago
"I was laughing at how the question only included the Wii U."

That makes absolutely no sense, and there isn't an ounce of funny in that question.

I think he's just tryna save face now lol.
Ck1x  +   1047d ago
Agreed, this man is an idiot! That truly makes no sense at all and he knows that he was laughing at the WiiU, he just wasn't thinking about all the potential money he was screwing up with his mouth that's all... Everyone knows its the cool thing to do, by hating on Nintendo right now until its not when the sales from the WiiU turns around.
Williamson  +   1048d ago
He came across as a jerk to me! If they don't like Nintendo then that's cool but at least act a little professional, instead of laughing it up like a little kid.
SilentNegotiator  +   1048d ago
I think after so many years of Nintendo consoles being a fairly terrible place to release third party games, a developer might have some inside jokes about Nintendo.
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Soldierone  +   1048d ago
Just let it be. Unless Nintendo themselves are angry, who cares. You want the WiiU game pad, then buy it. You want a "next generation" console, then buy a PS4 or Xbox 723042305 with it.
MasterCornholio  +   1048d ago
Mark Rein thinks the Wii U is a joke. Nothing will save him now for insulting Nintendo's console.

But I don't really care because he showed off an Unreal 4 engine demo on the PS4.

Edit: What I mean this is that I'm only planning on buying a PS4 (unless the 720 turns out to be better) which is why I'm happy to see that Sonys console supports the latest unreal engine.

No offense :)

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josephayal  +   1048d ago
i mean how many nintendo games would require such a powerful engine?


Galaxy Note 2 16GB dual core
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FlyingFoxy  +   1048d ago
Like i've already said, if they wanted to they could enhance UE3 a lot.

Look at Soldier of Fortune 2 back in 2002, it was built on a highly enhanced Quake 3 engine and it looks a fair bit better than Quake 3 does. Goes to show you can do a lot with an engine if you work on it more.
WUTCHUGUNNADO  +   1048d ago
Nintendo will probably suit up with it's next console. If they launch it within the next 3-4 years it'll put Microsoft and Sony in a weird position of either having to make due for another 2-3 years or releasing a new console. Nintendo's turned into something marketed for kids as of lately.
PS4isKing_82  +   1048d ago
Don't really know why ppl seem surprised about this. Nintendo hasn't had stellar 3rd party support since the snes days. Although the GameCube did have decent 3rd party support during its life. I'm really hoping the wiiu can at least match the GameCube as it was on of my fav systems ever.
lilbroRx  +   1048d ago
I'll take Cry-engine 3 over Unreal Engine 4 any day of the week.
Cry-engine 3:
Unreal Engine 4:

Its like the first commentor said. That demo was running on a single GTX680 and a GTX680 can't even run Crysis 3 at max setting without flaws. Cry-engine is way more advanced.

Cryengine looks a lot better to me. It also was made for "all" major consoles and was confirmed by its creator to have been running just fine on the Wii U.

I saw nothing in either of the Unreal Engine 4 tech demo's that matched the top secret tessellated toad tech.

What is so amazing about this?
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Eyeco  +   1048d ago
I think you're missing the point man, yes CryEngine is superior heck there are several games that don't use Unreal yet smoke the best it can offer.

The thing is UE3 was the most popular game engine this/last gen, an a $$ load of games utilised it, and it wasnt on the Wii you get it now ?

UE with each gen has always been very popular with devs and you can expect the same with 4, UE4 not comming to the Wii-U for whatever reason is a HUGE problem games wise.
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aawells07  +   1048d ago
Why would anyone even care if he did laugh at it? It seems like a silly thing to care about. lol
Mr_Writer85  +   1048d ago
WiiU fanboys trying to pretend 3rd party games don't matter.

You all stick to Mario 50, Zelda 20, Metroid 30 etc etc and so forth.

I'll stick to the PS3/4 with First party games that are old AND new IP's, 3rd party games and Indie titles.

Lots of choice and variety >>>>>>>&g t;> no variety
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Donnieboi  +   1048d ago
A "well said" bubble delivered to you sir, sponsored by yours truly. <3
Triggytrolls  +   1048d ago
Like call of duty 20, AC 20, Forza 20, GOW 20, Halo 20 ect ect.. I'm not even a Nintendo fanboy. Lets not forget that Nintendo have been around since the early 80s ;)

We've been playing the same games all gen. And guess what, next gen I'm sure we will see the same.
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Mr_Writer85  +   1048d ago
I can't stand COD, plus Forza and Halo are not on PS3 :|

This gen I've enjoyed, The Uncharted trilogy, Little big planet, GTA4, Red Dead Redmption, Tokyo Jungle, Borderlands 1 and 2, Demon Souls, White Knight Chronicals, Portal one and two, Half Life 2, Team Fortress 2, Heavy Rain, God of War series, Sly Cooper trilogy (old games but first time playing them, Oblivion, Skyrim, LA Noire, Journey, Braid, Wipeout, Gran Turismo, Transformers war for and fall of Cybertron, Batman Arkham Asylum and City, Street Fighter 4, Marvel vs Capcom 3, Mag, Tomb Raider, Far Cry 3, the Pixel Junk games.... And many more.

How many of those games came from last gen? I said already new AND old, however there is more new then old in that list. Surely if Nintendo have been round since the 80's they could of made more games no?
Triggytrolls  +   1047d ago
But then again I can reel off a slew of games I've enjoyed this gen from Nintendo.

Wii sports resort, Wario Ware, Sin and punishment, Fire Emblem, Zombi U, Punch out, Resi 4, Red steel, Mario Kart, Okami, Monster Hunter, Paper Mario, No more heroes, Dead Space extraction, Xenoblade, The Last story, atsunoko vs. Capcom, Super Mario Bros, Zelda, Lego City Undercover, Donkey Kong returns, ect ect.

Along with enjoying everything that Nintendo had to offer, I also enjoyed what MS and Sony had to offer along with all the 3rd party games that didn't get released on N console.

You go on like people that own a nintendo console have only been playing 3 game series.
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MultiConsoleGamer  +   1048d ago
Even developers are sick of fanboys and their moronic spin machine.

They really are. Talk to one sometime, they hate you guys.
Realplaya  +   1048d ago
The thing is no one has seen retros engine. For everyone whoowns a Wii U heres all you need to feel better bout our gam system.

A connected source told us that Retro Studios has been charged with creating game engines for Wii U and helping other developers implement them. While we didn’t get any specifics on what exactly “other developers” means, our source commented that Retro’s work involves both internal and external projects. The icing on the cake? Apparently Retro showed off their Wii U magic to Epic Games and got them to reconsider bringing Unreal Engine 4 to the system.
HexxedAvenger  +   1048d ago
rather interesting. Where'd you find that little morsel
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   1048d ago
Sounds good-

But it's not sound until I read an official statement.
(Because someone else said that earlier But named no source.)

Too close to April.

Personally, I think Nintendo would do better just sharing fully rendered 3-D models across projects.

Even if they used UR3 if they could cut and paste objects from game to game- like say a bottle, groceries, or a candles- (via some central Data base from Japan to Texas) that could cut down on a lot of designer time.
GraveLord  +   1048d ago
Sure, you could make an UE4 game run on Wii U, but that would require so much work that you're better off just using UE3.

I don't think you will see any UE4 games on Wii U.
jameson12345  +   1048d ago
Soooooo... Epic itself is not gonna make UE4 run on the Wii U, but if another developer wants to take the engine and adapt it for the Wii U it can? That's kind of a really roundabout way of dealing business..........I think I know what these all these developers are doing, they want to just throw the Wii U under the rug, but they won't say it out right. This because pretty much every time they count out Nintendo, it still ends up being successful. They are just covering themselves so they can jump back on in case the Wii U becomes popular..........I'm not sure how I feel about that.
Triggytrolls  +   1048d ago
Who cares if he was, the Wii U is not about looking "next gen", it's about the way you play the games that make it "next gen"? I would say unique.

I recently made the jump from 360 to PC and at first the wow factor was there, games looked awesome. But at the end of the day I was still playing FC3, it looked a lot better but it didn't make me enjoy it anymore then I would of on ps3/360.

Playing ZombiU for the first time with the pad was awesome, it's just a shame I completed it.
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ozstar  +   1048d ago
Too late, this is going to lead to a whole load of developers choosing UE4 OR Nintendo next gen.

Although it may seem fine if you don't like platformers or kart racers, realistically, if you have an original game idea, you'll be unable to afford to risk it on the PS4 or 720.
profgerbik  +   1047d ago
Looks like he was trying to impress his little party friends and now he realizes he fudged up and has to start making apologies.

You can't just say the complete opposite of something then expect everyone to forgot that you had said something totally different before.

UE4 is not impressing me that much anyway not even on PC and yes I have seen all the demos in full 1080p.
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Ck1x  +   1047d ago
Which is why most of the N4G pigeon trolls aren't really commenting on this post like they were on the original story. Now we have comments like "I don't even understand why people are upset that he laughed at the WiiU in the first place!" How dumb do people have to be to say something of the sort when what he was laughing at wasn't a true factual statement at all. If it was then that would be a different story then...
DivineAssault  +   1047d ago
wii u has received nothing but negative feedback since launch (eve before it launched).. The name, its power, its features, its support, etc.. People didnt even know it was a new system.. & some still dont! Nintendo does have its fan base that will stick with em to the end so it will be ok but they made some very poor decisions with that thing.. i am a fan of their software because they have great developers but their hardware? ehhh not so much
kryteris  +   1047d ago
Wii U is a blast, only downfall and it was expected is that of its cheaply implemented gpu. Why they did this again is baffling.

But that does not mean it is a bad chip, I believe it will keep up with nextgen for at least 3 years. The problem right now is that there are no good games on it, that really impress.

*What he probably meant to say is that Will the WiiU run the latest tech demos as shown, NO! Will the ps4? Sorta. AS you can see in the videos, even the PS4 has everything running at about a mid-high "Medium" settings.
STEWIE_PLAY_PS4  +   1047d ago
If u r evil for laugh XD
Bowzabub  +   1047d ago
Nintendo needs a new N64 style console with decent specs. Imho, N64 was their best hardware.. Not to mention the games.

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