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Submitted by GadgetGooch 850d ago | rumor

Kinect 2.0 specs have been leaked

TruTechNoid writes "Additional specs of the Kinect 2.0 have been leaked on to the net from the site “noshitsherlock.com” as first reported by “Appy Gamer”

The reported new features are as follows:" (Kinect, Microsoft, Xbox 360, Xbox One)

Update I am updating to state that this is a rumoured leak first featured on "Appy Gamer" I did state at the bottom of my article to take all leaks regarding Next-Gen hardware with a pinch of salt :)

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JoGam  +   850d ago
Cool.
Knight_Crawler  +   850d ago
The reported new features are as follows:

A mode for sitting or standing

Able to track players with a height of only one meter

Better detection of a players hand state

Tracking of six people up from just two

An improved field of view for a much larger play space

Higher resolution and quality RGB stream

Depth stream is much higher resolution which in turn enables resolve of much smaller objects, separate objects much better and able to capture depth curvature around edges much better

Active infrared enables tracking in low or no light

Latency has been improved by 33ms

USB 3.0

Frame rate up from 15fps to 30fps

Resolution up from 640×480 to 1920×1080

It is reported that the device will go on sale for around $99

Does not sound like a leak but more like educated guesses.

Oh well if true this debunks the leaked documents where Kinect is suppose to be integrated into the 720 " Always on ALways Connected"

Lets face it folks we dont know jack about the 720 and MS has done a great job on keeping it a secret...I mean no leak image of the controller, new Kinect or the system - remember the PS4 controller got leaked but we cannot get nothing but some documents about the 720 that were probably made up by some troll in his moms basement.

Edit - StrongMan what are you about, where did I say anything about leaks being good - I stated that this sounds like educated guesses rather than leaks.

Leaks and rumors should be taken as just and until MS confirms something we should just wait until ES but I know you want the always on always connected rumor to be true so you can sleep better at night.
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StrongMan  +   850d ago
So now leaks are good?
stage88  +   850d ago
I'm sure the PS3 controller was a controlled leak.
Look how much hype it bought for the Playstation Meeting.
MysticStrummer  +   850d ago
"Oh well if true this debunks the leaked documents where Kinect is suppose to be integrated into the 720 " Always on ALways Connected"

No it really doesn't. It shows that Kinect 2.0 will be available separately in case people want it on their PC.
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Conzul  +   850d ago
@stage88
I'm sure nearly EVERY leak is a "controlled" leak.
I'm already where I replace the word "leak" with "tease" when I see it in headlines.
KwietStorm  +   850d ago
"Lets face it folks we dont know jack about the 720 and MS has done a great job on keeping it a secret.."

Right. Except if it turns out the rumors are true, then we actually do know jack about the Xbox. You can't have it both ways, because like you just said, we don't know. It wouldn't be unreasonable to think the more coherent leaks are true, however, based on the accuracy of PS4 leaks from the same sources. The Dualshock 4 was partially leaked, yes, but we still don't know what the PS4 looks like, and we don't know who leaked the controller. Its not uncommon for manufacturers in the tech world to leak things themselves, to get free press and "user" feedback.
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GameNameFame  +   850d ago
@Knight_Crawler. you are blinded by fanboyism.LOL
720 Spec was not made up by some fanboy. MS's entire server was hacked. and MS had him arrested. you are just denying cause it is extremely weak. It was 100 page document in excruciating detail on how weak it is.

I love how you praise MS being tight lipped and secure.

U do realize their dev console went on sales on EBAY.. right? hahah
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BattleAxe  +   850d ago
All I have to say about this is YUCK!
dcbronco  +   850d ago
@GameNameFame

One of the things mention SuperDAE mentioned was the Durango had a better design. If you trust what he leaked then you believe the 720 is better than the PS4 then?
vet_medic  +   850d ago
We have plenty of leaks from vgleaks and their news were mostly spot on, other than 8gig for ps4 but even internal devs didnt know that, so its hard to believe that everything they reported on 720 is wrong.

So yes, we know quite a bit.
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NewMonday  +   849d ago
not a KINECT fan but technically this a good improvement, the most important things here:

* Depth stream is much higher resolution
* Active infrared enables tracking in low/no light
* Latency has been improved by 33ms
* Frame rate up from 15fps to 30fps(<<this)
* Resolution up from 640×480 to 1920×1080

mix this up with AR glasses and you may get a new Wii like craze.
ziggurcat  +   849d ago
"Oh well if true this debunks the leaked documents where Kinect is suppose to be integrated into the 720 " Always on ALways Connected""

rumours are rumours, obviously - i don't take any rumour as anything until the info comes from the horse's mouth.

but this is MS we're talking about... (and i'm being facetious here) they could very well charge you extra for kinect 2.0 by selling it as a separate peripheral even if it might be required to use the next xbox.

frankly, i would be very shocked if that rumour turned out to be true - it just seems a little too far fetched.
DeadlyFire  +   849d ago
Pretty sure Sony wanted people to see their prototype PS4 controller early enough to swap it back to original design if they had to do so. They tried doing a new controller for PS3 and reaction was so bad they shifted back to Dual shock/Sixaxis design.

This Kinect improvement means games at 30fps for Kinect. Why would they even market it with 15 fps? Might actually look like an okay device in motion then.
Ritsujun  +   849d ago
Happy One-Quarter!
Buff1044  +   849d ago
Wow 47 disagrees for just stating what was reported. N4G a Sony fan website? Nah.
Gamer1982  +   849d ago
That cam has the specs of a cam thats priced around £00 right now I seriously cannot see them being able to sell as low as £99/$99.. Those are either seriously wrong specs or the wrong price also makes me think if it does come with every console its gonna cost quite a bit more than the ps4 unless they cut back hardware. Kinect 2.0 could be what wins PS4 the next gen war..
GameNameFame  +   849d ago
@DCbronco When Did i say I trust him??
When did i say i trust SuperDAE?

I trust the 100 page detailed documents that he hacked and was confirmed by the "inside sources" from IGN, EuroGamer Digital Foundry, Kotaku and etc.

Last time he checked he didnt even have as much as he had on PS4 as he did on 720.

Btw, Digital Foundry did a comparison. They say PS4 is better design. Now stop trying to deny it and make stuff up.
from the beach  +   850d ago
April cool.
SDF Repellent  +   850d ago
Strongman and mysticstrummer, lol, always here to provide there in-depth analysis to anything Xbox related.
Gildarts  +   850d ago
if this is true then it would be a big mistake. it means kinect will not be bundled with the 720. which means not everyone will have it. Which means developers will have to make games seperately for the kinect owners. Which means less developer support. If the kinect is always there developers can always make use of it without worrying about it not being there, resulting in unique experiences only found on Xbox 720. Microsoft knows this. It might be the 720's killer app because it will be part of the 720 experience not just some optional pheripheral.
NeoTribe  +   849d ago
Kinect sucked this gen and will suck next gen. Making fps and resolution better isnt gonna save a boring gimmick. If thats the 720 experience count me out.
oof46  +   849d ago
No, they sell it separately so when your kinect red rings, you can buy a new one.
The_Infected  +   850d ago
Here's how the Xbox reveal will go...And here it is everyone the new Kinect!!!! Oh and here's the new Xbox. Now back to Kinect!! Lol
The_Infected  +   850d ago
I was joking but I'm sure a ton of the reveal will focus on Kinect 2.
stiggs  +   850d ago
Any statement that is followed by "lol" is automatically regarded as not funny.
TAURUS-555  +   849d ago
kinect....what a joke.

ok MS you concentrate on the girls and 10 years old and sony on hardcore gamers.
GalacticEmpire  +   850d ago
"It is reported that the device will go on sale for around $99"

This part makes me doubt this whole leak, it's far more likely that MS will bundle Kinect 2 in with xbox 3. If they want Kinect to get support from devs other than 1st party they will have to be certain that their entire userbase has one. Not sure if that's as smart a move as it seems because putting an extra $99 on top of a new console's price could be bad for sales.
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Godmars290  +   850d ago
For one thing you might be able to use it with the 360, for another if its true you need one for Xbox3, it has to be connected, you'll need to buy another should the first break.
GalacticEmpire  +   850d ago
You're right, I didn't think it through all that well.

My point about the price bumping still stands. Kinect is a bit of a double edged sword in that respect, both attracting the casual gamers MS want so desperately to court but, at the same time, inflating the price of Xbox 3 making it less attractive to that same demographic.

If I were MS I'd try and fool the core into thinking Kinect 2 will be appeal to them, like they did last time. At least until the price drops into casual range.
MikeMyers  +   850d ago
It might work on the Xbox 360 but limited since the Xbox 360 does not support USB 3.0

I would hope the new Xbox does not require this new Kinect. All that would do is inflate the cost. I understand that if it is in every system it will be much more likely to be supported by game developers but I'm still not convinced it has that much use in gaming.

"Frame rate up from 15fps to 30fps"

It only did 15fps? That's not very good.
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Godmars290  +   850d ago
As part of a bundle I can't see it contributing more than $40-$50 to overall price. Then there will likely be leasing deals through cable/internet providers which will make it seem cheap to general consumers. Probably a lot of gamers too.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   850d ago
That pretty much squashes the rumor about Kinect having to be plugged in for the console to function properly.

And if that's the case what if the thing breaks? Then you have to shell out an extra 100$, these rumors are stupid...

@Knight My bad these rumors are spinning completely outta control now. Even got me spinning in circles.
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DragonKnight  +   850d ago
A rumour squashes another rumour?
SDF Repellent  +   850d ago
Another thing might be the chance of cross platforms play befweene the nextbox and pc. The x360 controller is alreadyq the standard for gamepad on the PC, now by making the Kinect a standard on PC, cross platform games like Battlefields can integrate this concept of controller and motion and voice control.If cross platform gaming is a reality with both Xbox and Games for Windows and Xbox Live tieing it together, that might be a killer feature for MS next gen.
DragonKnight  +   850d ago
"Another thing might be the chance of cross platforms play befweene the nextbox and pc."

That'll never happen. Microsoft will never be that open. They had every opportunity to do so this gen and chose not to. PS3 already has a couple of cross-platform games so expect more from the PS4.

"The x360 controller is alreadyq the standard for gamepad on the PC."

Says you. There is no standard.

"now by making the Kinect a standard on PC."

Also not gonna happen.

"If cross platform gaming is a reality with both Xbox and Games for Windows and Xbox Live tieing it together, that might be a killer feature for MS next gen."

Except that that's a fantasy that will never happen because it requires Microsoft giving up control and no one likes GFWL. Be realistic.
maniacmayhem  +   850d ago
@Dragon

"PS3 already has a couple of cross-platform games so expect more from the PS4."

360 has a couple of cross-platform games too. And with MS trying to integrate all their devices and OS I would think they might try more for cross play for the next Xbox.

"Says you. There is no standard."

A lot of PC games, especially ports from consoles on Steam use and support the 360 controller as default. So it could be considered standard.

"Be realistic."

How about trying to be optimistic. He's not saying this is written in stone he's just giving his thoughts on the topic.
JamieL  +   849d ago
@ maniacmayham
You are trying to reason with a troll. He obvious doesn't do any research, or have any clue what he's talking about. FF11 on the 360 even let you play with the 6 PS2 users who bought the game as well as the PC players. There are more than that, Shadowrun, even though it sucked did as well. I also think that the 360 controller is the standard gamepad for PC for the same reason you stated. You could make a full time job of tracking this guy and removing his foot from his mouth, but it's just not worth it. Let him live in his Sony run PS dream world, he's not hurting anyone.
I do have to admit it's strange such a blatent troll has so many bubbles, weird.
hazardman  +   850d ago
Not really, they can still have a sku that's not bundled with Kinect. They just have to make sure that all skus have large hard drives. Which is far more important to devs than kinect.
SlavisH2  +   850d ago
i love how there are 2 articles a day about xbox specs LEAKED. Someone is lying :P
GadgetGooch  +   850d ago
:D I know what you mean but it's always the same when new hardware is on the horizon and I don't think it will ever change, There's got to be an element of truth within it all somewhere :)
creized1  +   850d ago
And the fun begins...
Good_Guy_Jamal  +   850d ago
So it's gonna be sold separate from the main console? All these conflicting leaks.
I'm not going to believe anything I read about kinect 2.0 because I fell for the project natal hype and got burned pretty badly!
TheFallenAngel  +   850d ago
Man everybody did. They swore that milo was real and stuff like that. When my brother first got it, we were all excited but we got bored with it pretty quick. Same way with PS move, I got bored of it. I prefer the good old controller.
StrongMan  +   850d ago
Tell me about it. I'm still waiting to be able to scan my skateboard and other objects with Kinect and use it in game like MS promised. And what about MS promising 4 people can play Kinect at once? Now the leak is saying 6 players, yeah right. MS has made a reputation for over promising and under delivering and I won't fall for it again.
die_fiend  +   850d ago
I agree kinect is probably bull, wouldn't know tho cos I'm not a sucker. However, you're saying u won't fall for it again? U do realise MS aren't saying these things right? It's a rumour
Lvl_up_gamer  +   850d ago
So much ignorance.

If you look at the video where you are getting the whole scanning of the skateboard feature, you will see in the bottom right hand corner @ 0:03 clearly saying:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

"Product Vision: Actual features and functionality may vary."

It's called a disclaimer. The video is just a product vision that MS had for kinect.

Please show me where MS promised to be able to scan a skateboard?

Also, you clearly don't own a kinect or have used one let alone know what games are out there for kinect.

There is a FREE XBLA title called Kinect Fun Labs googly eyes.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/resu...

You will notice you can scan ANY object and manipulate it within the game. So even though MS DIDN'T promise that so called scanning a skateboard feature, they DID produce a game where they live up to the scanning of an object and using it within a game...yes, even a skateboard.

As for playing 4 players at once. Ubisoft's Just Dance 3 DOES allow up to 4 players at once.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

So there you have it Strongman, your ignorance has been pointed out. So although MS DIDN'T promise anything, they have delivered on every negative aspect you were just complaining about.

So it would appear that MS DID live up to their expectations on what KINECT is capable of doing, you're just too ignorant to know better and would rather spread your BS FUD like usual.

You have been marked for trolling. Again, like usual.
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DragonKnight  +   850d ago
@Lvl_up_gamer: Milo.
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FarCryLover182  +   850d ago
If they have to have Kinect, I'd rather them have it separate. Why include something with a console that not everyone wants. Microsoft would also lose money on the Kinect Peripheral or have to cut specs of the system to keep it profitable for them.
Donnieboi  +   850d ago
But if they don't put it in every box, it will get less support from devs. That's the conundrum with these kind of peripherals...
FrigidDARKNESS  +   850d ago
Report from the leaked MS documents back in September which were confirmed to be true. the Kinect will be built in.
ColeMacGrath  +   850d ago
I bought the 360 slim once it was launched, it wasn't bundled with kinect but it said kinect ready.. maybe MS is gonna do the same with their next console
RTheRebel  +   850d ago
Don't know what to believe in anymore lol
blackbirdi  +   850d ago
april joke
nevin1  +   850d ago
How does those specs compared to PS4's camera?
Belking  +   850d ago
being that they are two different types of cameras, this one kills the ps4 eye camera. Kinect is a dept sensing camera and can track individual limbs of several people and ps eye can't do that. Kinects technology is much superior to that of the PSeye and sony know this but it's possible that they may have some of the same gamesbut you won't here sony boasting abut what it's camera can do over kinect because they know they have the inferior tech in that area.

By the way, those specs could be off but still kinect will be superior to the camera for ps4.
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zebramocha  +   850d ago
The ps4 camera supposedly has a wider field of view and has a higher fps.
MysticStrummer  +   850d ago
Superior tech with crap games. Well played, MS! Kinect still hasn't been used in a way that other "lesser" tech can't duplicate.
kingPoS  +   850d ago
There are important differences between the two. Sony's eye is meant to work in conjunction with a motion controller, whereas the kinect is purposed towards a more hands free experience.
Fatal-Aim  +   849d ago
@ Belking

"being that they are two different types of cameras, this one kills the ps4 eye camera. Kinect is a dept sensing camera"

Ok....

But answer me this: What is a stereo camera?

Here, I show you: http://techcrunch.com/2013/...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I think Kinect 2.0 will be ok, technically. However, I doubt it has the advantage you claim it does.
Dlacy13g  +   850d ago
The specs all jive with what we have heard except for the selling it separate cost. All signs and logic say its packed in. Then again if they sell separate, entry cost on the next box could easily be $300-$400 at launch.
PS4isKing_82  +   850d ago
Lol kinect
Jek_Porkins  +   850d ago
Ya, everyone knows the only cool camera is the "Kinect like" one that Sony will release right?

It's okay though, because their slogan is "For the gamer's", so that makes it ok.
MysticStrummer  +   850d ago
No, what everyone knows is neither camera matters. One is just guaranteed to be optional, while everyone hopes the other one will be too but won't admit it.
contradictory  +   850d ago
before kinect ps2 had the dumbass Eye Toy
and then there was Kinect which was dumbass
and now there will be Kinect 2 which will likely be dumbass and
sony's try at another camera which is most likely gonna be dumbass

in conclusion not a single fuck was given about any of them
Qrphe  +   850d ago
I'm starting to believe you got your first console this last gen.
Jek_Porkins  +   850d ago
@Qrphe
You know what's funny? I spoke the truth, I'm not a troll, yet PS4isKing is an obvious troll with 17 agrees with an obvious troll comment.

People might not like it when I say things like I said, but that doesn't make what I said any less true, Sony seems to get a free pass on doing things that others cannot.

Sony shows Move, nobody says anything, Sony shows a camera, nobody says anything. They are going after the family/casual crowd same as Microsoft and Nintendo, but because they use a slogan like "Were for Gamer's", people give them a free pass?

If something isn't for you, then it isn't for you, but the hypocrisy of this site is just face-palm inducing.
Qrphe  +   850d ago
Except that Sony has been criticized by ripping off the Wiimote, Kinect and even Wii U gamepad heavily (that you choose to ignore that is another deal).

Shifts in console popularity (or corporate toe-licking) has been happening like this since the 1st generation of consoles and won't change (remember when N4G was pro-360 only?). I don't know how long you have been gaming, but this is nothing new and it will never change; all you can do is get used to it at some point and stop feeding it.
Wrightylfc88  +   850d ago
Lets be honest kinect was a major let down and continues to be nowadays! Kinect 2 won't be any different except track more people. The new Xbox is gonna be a let down tbh the ps4 will blow it out the water!
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ps3_pwns  +   850d ago
and here, we, go.gif I say forget all these rumors and head spinning and just pick up the ps4 lol. no confusion or doubt just straight up to the point facts and awesomeness.

sony dont need to hide
ichimaru  +   849d ago
what does this article have to do with sony? don't respond please, save your last bubble
ps3_pwns  +   849d ago
eveeeeryyyyything.gif dont cry guys debate if you dont like what you hear.

@mc_kool_k you already went wrong!
Skynetone  +   850d ago
for 99 bucks you cant go wrong

video chat/control menus/voice recognition/fitness games
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ALLWRONG  +   850d ago
Only here do rumors = leaks
GraveLord  +   850d ago
and not a single fuck was given.
StreetsofRage  +   849d ago
Yet you and your crew are here like flies on shit. The new xbox hasn't been officially announced yet it's more talked about than the ps4.

The mystery is always more interesting than the known.
DigitalRaptor  +   849d ago
I keep hearing this from people like yourself and the Xbox loyalists, but all signs point the other direction.

Proof it's more talked about please?
headblackman  +   850d ago
that's an old rumor. that was released when the first rumored specs were leaked. I'm getting so sick and tired of rumors
DeadPixel  +   850d ago
N4g is rumours !!!
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contradictory  +   850d ago
motion controls again huh?
and not a single fuck was given again
fgwedfger   850d ago | Spam
josephayal  +   850d ago
Powerful Sensor Bar, powerful bar
spoonard  +   850d ago
Seems like 75% software update and 25% hardware update.
DFresh  +   850d ago
All of this nonsense over a camera that has no decent AAA games for it.
Kinect sure as hell didn't have any good games Kinect 2.0 on Xbox 720 won't be any different people.
urwifeminder  +   850d ago
Sweet if true but i will wait to the full reveal before getting hyped love some new xbox action though,seems like lots of sony gamers are interested too.
ichimaru  +   849d ago
they will always be interested. more comments from them than xbox gamers
yewles1  +   850d ago
I don't buy it on the very basis that Kinect 1 DID do 30fps all around.
jakmckratos  +   850d ago
I'm so sick of speculated leaks. They're so unreliable..I have no problem waiting for official facts..and even then it could change without any given notice.
Plagasx  +   850d ago
Cool more Kinect crap.
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