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Cerny on PS4 Supporting 4K Resolution: "We're Still in the Initial Stages"

"PlayStation 4 system architech Mark Cerny recently spoke to the Japanese press about a variety of things related to the console, most of it technical. This includes the popular topic of 4K resolution gaming and whether the PS4's games would feature the same.

Cerny was a little reserved when answering, stating that, "Personally, I’m very interested in 4K."

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tachy0n1154d ago (Edited 1154d ago )

4K is awesome but 4K TV's pricing is not at all lol

a future-proof PS4 is the best thing that can happen to anybody since consoles have to last many years in each generation.

Seraphim1154d ago

that's exactly it. future proofing. I'm afraid 4k tvs are too expensive but 2-3 years from now will they be the new norm? Pretty sure my next upgrade will be 4k. You can argue either way regarding 4k but personally I see it as being a must. I know it's a feature I definitely want to see. It's hard to imagine something even better coming in the next 4 years. Of course with a good receiver you can upscale to 4k anyway so....

SilentNegotiator1154d ago

Nah, I doubt 4K will be anything big until at LEAST the 9th gen. And even by then, I'm sure running games at 4K resolutions will still be ridiculous.

kingPoS1154d ago

4k TV's are cheap in China from what I hear.

Blaze9291153d ago

4K game support on PS4 won't happen. They still can't even standardize 1080p 60FPS. Even believing for a second the PS4 may support 4K gaming is a joke

ATi_Elite1153d ago

OK didn't we JUST have DICE CONFIRMING that BF4 for the PS4 MP mode would be 720p @ 60fps 24 player MAX

But ALL that goes out the window and fanboys jump for joy at any NON-Official news about 4k resolution support on the PS4.

sure i think the PS4 will support 4K resolution just like the PS3 supported 1080p resolution and HOW MANY AAA 1080p games came out on the PS3? ZERO!!

4K is a GIMMICK and not worth a $10K Tv
I think all this 4K talk needs to STOP until PS4 devs start knocking out 1080p 60 fps games no matter the mode.

Makes NO sense to talk about and DISTRACT us with this 4k madness when a DEV just confirmed 720p for a PS4 game in MP mode.

Excuse me for being LOGICAL and not all dreamy but feel free to RAGE disagree.

Donnieboi1153d ago

The 720p and 60 fps I know of, but where did u read that the PS4 was only 24 players? Hell no.

kung-fu-grip1153d ago (Edited 1153d ago )

I agree. 4K???? I can picture people laughing at this. I understand that some are trying to add to the hype to help market the thing but some of this hype is getting a bit crazy. Hopefully Sony doesn't add too much to this machine to point of the final PS4 GPUs exploding off the MBs.

S2Killinit1153d ago

it will take 4k to become mainstream in a matter of 3 years i think. Just like 1080 resolution. It was insanely overpriced at first, and then i dropped rapidly to what it is today. Sony knows this, obviously.

ATi_Elite1153d ago

Yes very tru but you gotta still compress 4K all to hell to get it over the air or thru cable and right now it's just a mess and a gimmick as most people slowly adopt a 1080p TV

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Sharingan_no_Kakashi1154d ago (Edited 1154d ago )

.........o.o

what about 2k?

How many gigs dat need?

I'm guessing 5?

GamersRulz1154d ago

4K (gaming) on PS4 will never happen, because it needs way more powerful GPU to render at that resolution. I believe that nVidia Titan can barely maintain 60fps at 4k resolution.

4k movies on the other hand is possible, Sony already stated that PS4 will support 4k movies

Conzul1154d ago

Oohhh, that word again.

I've cited this more times than I have fingers - it only took 4 PS3's chained to accomplish a 4K demo of Gran Turismo 5. The PS4 will be more powerful than that.

#peoplewhosaynever

JP13691154d ago

Conzul
No console coming out anytime soon has the bandwidth to run a 4k game using all the bells and whistles of modern gaming technology. You can predict what is possible by comparing the maximum theoretical output of say, a PS4, with what would be required for 4k gaming and see that we're just not there yet. If these new consoles had the grunt, that Killzone demo would have been running at 1080/60. I know it's early days yet, but you just aren't going to have a system that feels comfortable at 1080/30 run at four times that resolution at any point in its life, unless severe reductions are made as far as the complexity of the game environment are concerned (i.e., AI, physics, geometry, post processing,shaders, etc.)
You might see some PSN games pull it off, but they'll be titles in the same vein as Super Stardust HD. We've even heard from devs that fully-featured games could run the menus and UI in 4k, but not much else.
No worries though, PS4 (and likely 720) will be able to give us what we want for years to come. And when the ninth gen comes out, we'll be able to play 4k games on newly-affordable 4k televisions.

Oh_Yeah1154d ago

@Conzul you realize how linear of a game Grand Turismo is right? Try running red dead redemption or skyrim in 4k with no performance loss, then we'd be talking

Conzul1154d ago

If it's a game, and it's running on the PS4, then there's 4K gaming. Yes, even if it's a PSN game like Eufloria or the like. YOU are the guys who are using absolutes.

JP13691154d ago

We're using realistic examples of what 4k gaming should be. The PS2 could probably run Pong in 4k, but I don't think anyone would consider that the next step in graphical fidelity.

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ZoyosJD1154d ago

2k is ~1080p. Just slightly over in fact.

4k is 2160p or 4 times 1080p.

The ____p count is vertical pixels. The _k count is an approximation of horizontal pixels

Sharingan_no_Kakashi1154d ago

Lol yea I know. I'm just being facetious.

red2tango1154d ago

Your math is off: 1080 * 2 = 2160.

thebigman1154d ago

@red2tango Did you ever learn math? It's 2x per side(horizontal and vertical), so 4x over all

ZoyosJD1154d ago

@ExgamerLegends...Don't do that, it promotes misinformation. Just look at this guy...and my disagrees at that...

@red2tango

I hate having to be explicit about the details, but...

4k is 3840*2160. ~8.3 megapixels

1080p is 1920*1080. ~2.1 megapixels

There is literally 4 times as many pixels on a 4k TV as a 1080p TV because it's the area of a rectangle.

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cannon88001154d ago (Edited 1154d ago )

2k isn't that much higher than 1080p, and no you don't need that much ram. Even one gig of vram is good for many games running on 1080p. I used to have a gtx 460 with only one gig of ram and I was able to run pretty much everything on the highest settings on 1080p. But more is always better especially for future proofing the hardware :D

JP13691154d ago

1920*1080 = 2,073,600

"1080p isn't that much higher than 2k."

Fixed

Sharingan_no_Kakashi1154d ago

JP1369

the 2k is in relation to the number of pixels on either the horizontal (1920) or vertical (1080) lines. Not the product of the 2 numbers. Also, K = thousand not million.

cannon88001154d ago (Edited 1154d ago )

@JP

It was never wrong lol the wording is just tricky to process sometimes.

JP13691154d ago

Yep, don't know what I was thinking when I wrote that. I'm well aware of what 4k is, you wouldn't think I would have trouble figuring out 2k.

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worldwidegaming1154d ago

Even pc gaming at that level to resolution is insane.
Lets just master 1080p at 60fps before we start doing that X4.
Well they need someway to get us to buy new TVs now that 3D is not cool.

WUTCHUGUNNADO1154d ago (Edited 1154d ago )

Screw TV's I wanna strap something to my head like a true introvert.

RevXM1154d ago

Im sure we will see some 4k native games, only those will be mostly psn and indie games. AAA games will be pretty much or most certainly always be 1080p.

It will be like the ps3 in a way. Everything but most games will be supporting and running the highest res possible.

1080p will be allright for a few years, but PS5 got to nail at least 4k standard for its big titles because it makes sense that 4k and 8k will be pretty widespread and affordable 5-10 years from now.
Already looking forward to the ps5. Hopefully Sony/playstation and the demand for it will be there when its time for ps4 to step down.

LONG LIVE PLAY.

BISHOP-BRASIL1153d ago

Whoa you're already talking about 8k and I'm still trying to see the difference between 720p and 1080p on anything smaller than a 42" TV... This whole 4k matter for me is just another way to make everyone keep changing TV and heat the market, unless you have 80" TV or sits 2' away from your set, I don't see why would you need 4k at all, it's almost impossible to see the difference.

SuMtOnE1154d ago

and I just recently brought a 1080p 3D =(

Skate-AK1154d ago

Haha me too, Back in October.

GABRIEL10301154d ago

I'll buy a 1080P 3D TV also, and this is enough for play in PS4. You dont need a 4K TV because PS4 doesn't support games at 4K, only movies at 4K but nobody are releasing movies at this format for home use. That's a great Sony decision, because a 4K TV are very impopular and expensive, an only TV would cost almost 15.000 dollars and you can change your car with this money.

WUTCHUGUNNADO1154d ago

I could buy a whole little army of shitty cars for that much.

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