GE: "Sony is currently hosting a presentation at the Game Developers Conference to cover new aspects about the PlayStation 4."
Awesome! now i can finally add mr tretton GOD I LOVE SONY
"PS4 Remote Play: Screens are mirrored on PS4/Vita (Both on at same time). Hardware does it/not on devs. Start at any time; no special mode." So why is Sony making Remote Play be only optional for Dev's? It should be mandatory since it doesn't require any actual extra work from 3rd party devs. I bet you tat greedy companies like Activision won't allow Remote Play on COD, just so they can charge for another crappy port of COD on Vita (like the 1st crappy Vita COD game). I hope Sony changes it's policy and makes it a requirement that ALL PS4 games utilize remote play.
I think it only says the hardware does it, no need to devs code it. So it'll probably be for every game. At least I hope so.
I am just replying to get a piece of the pie. Amazed at the details given for the system, E3 is going to be nuts; Next Xbox, PS4...Showdown Central...can't wait...
*“GPU – Tessellation – adding geometric detail to smooth edges or create more organic shapes” finally confirmed, this could be the most important thing next gen. *“Debug your PS4 code as you would your PC code” this could be a megaton, unofficial modding possible? home-brew?
All games WILL be playable via Remote Play. They just said that they have hardware to help Remote Play go smoother and that devs don't have to do anything extra to make it playable.
but from what I understand, it's not the same with PS4 and it will work just like how nVidia's Project Shield works where all steam games can be streamed to it on local network and devs don't have to do extra coding.
It's optional in the sense that some games will utilize things like the play station eye which would not be practical to use during remote play.
@tentonsoftube how old you are? sounds like 10 to me.
Ok, so now i just need to hear Sony confirm voice messaging, one-button notifications, and a PSN(sen) name change feature and I'm sold day one for sure.
PSN ID change, that I want! I don't care if I have to pay for it but just make it happen!!! Edit: off topic I just can't stop thinking of how Sony trolled MS: We won't release the next PlayStation console in blah blah years. We will let the competition announce their system first. Then Sony two weeks later: Ladies and gentlemen PlayStation 4!! xD LMAO! And the hype's been none stop since then, the people's faces at MSHQ must have been priceless! like "WTF o.O?" lol
calm down sit boo boo sit
No analogue buttons? No buy for me.
still waiting 2 years before I buy anything
Why is that?
How are people disagreeing with a question I asked. WTH!
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with the issues both current gen consoles had at launch Im in no rush to jump into next gen, on top of that I have a giant backlog to play so if these games cant be played on next gen systems why waste money at launch for something that will sit there not being used
Day 1 for me !!
don't understand why people disagree with someone decision oh wait I know why Sony Fans lurks this site. Anything negative about PS result a dislike. Seriously if someone choose to wait let em wait. Waiting 2-3 years before getting PS3 was the best move to make why because late 2008 was when PS3 actually started getting games.
Because people disagreed with his opinion, plain and simple! That's the purpose of the agree/disagree options isn't it!?
Natsu would probably own a ps3 lol
If you are making comment about my "why is that" question then you need to chill. It was an honest question. I really wanted top know as I didn't see much of a correlation with the article.
I've never understood this, because prior to 2010 this site was 360 fanboy central from what I remember, Sony doom and gloom articles approved everyday, Mass Trolls on every Playstation article, I still remember a good lot of them, they were that prolific. And even still N4G isn't the only gaming site on the net, I hear there are tons of 360 fanboys on Gamespot,G4, GT, IGN, why don't you just visit those sites, go and visit those sites instead, if you can't stand N4G anymore ? I guess the only reason it would appear there are allot of PS fans is because for the last few years a good chunk of the industry's hottest news has been Playstation specific. And the PS3 was always getting games when you actually look at what was being released, it's mass media hate, made it appear that it was getting no games, but compared to the PS2, 360's 1st year and especially the Wii U the ps3's first 2 years were very strong.
@Eyeco I remember 2006-08 were some tough years for Sony on this website. Many of the trolls on both sides of the fence have come and gone by now. The bubble system back then somehow allowed them to always have 10 bubbles and be the only ones to comment. It's largely quite now besides the agrees and disagrees. Good times.... Although, I do miss my 10 bubbles :'( from back then. I worked hard for them.
That was the year I waited and that's how my PSN ID is Legionaire2008. For 360 it is 2005, the first year I got Xbox Live.
"Because late 2008 is when ps3 actually started getting games" LOL that was funny guess you forgot about PS3 getting Drakes Fortune Motorstorm, COD4MW, Unreal Tounament 3, R&C tools of destruction ,Assassins Creed, Folklore, Orange Box, NBA2k8, Skate & ES oblivion...these just are a few of the games I played on PS3 in 2007 PS3 has no Games was a myth perpetuated by fanboys, and only really pertained to the first few months of the PS3..... Just like any other launch console.
As awesome as the PS4 is the news that will definitely blow the competition out of the water along with great games would be a AI voice installed on the console similar to SIRI.
Kinect and PSEye will do that.
I don't think it will take two years for games to be released I'm dying for to play and it won't take two years to finish the games from my PS3 to do list XD but yeah, I can wait as well. There might be some price cut or extras when you wait some months :3
why would i wanna miss 2 years with my new baby?
Because it will be overpriced and have no games?
I'd like to know if I get another PSN annual subscription now will it continue to be usable when I upgrade to PS4. Not expecting PS3 games to work or anything but I don't want to have to shell out for a new "just for PS4" subscription.
I'm sure they'll go over that at E3, assuming you're talking about PS+. I think the next evolution of the service will be tiered, with the higher tier adding the social and streaming features of the PS4, along with Gaikai service. What would be cool to see Sony do is give current subscribers access to the new features for the rest of our subscription before having to re-up and pay more.
I can't imagine them asking all existing subscribers to subscribe again, when people are signing up with the expectation that it will carry over. After all, they did announce Plus was going to be a service on PS4. That would just be asking for a backlash. Worst case scenario, if the PS4 and PS3 versions were separated, you'd probably at least get the option to switch to the PS4 equivalent. I'd imagine they would avoid an issue like that altogether though. If they don't move on to a choice-based system to let people pick between different games on different platforms by then, I'd imagine PS4 games would be added in in the same way Vita games were. It's probably be a mix of backwards compatible and "cross-buy" games for a while, with more PS4-only games added in over time as the PS4 library grows.
Waiwaiwaitwaitwait.... "PS4 controller: 1920×900 resolution on the analog touchpad" What does this mean? It's not a screen, so why a resolution.
Resolution of the interface maybe, so developers can map the pad 1:1 to the screen
@both of you Ahh okay. I thought that might be the case. That sounds good then - it won't be a gimped touchpad! I wonder how big the touchpad space actually is? I know, I know... google search.
It means more precise and smooth reading on the touchpad, much like you can buy a PC mouse with a higher DPI
That's how you map touch coordinates to the input system. Basically if you want to hit a point on a 1920x1080 resolution you would receive a touch event from a 1920x900 device - thus these coords need to match the screen (or the OS does it). A simple scale would suffice. It's basically about precision. To be able to exactly hit a "pixel" on the screen, this device would need to have the same resolution. It doesn't really matter, because usually, your fingers are way to big to hit exactly one pixel. But it is very precise with this resolution even though it does not match the full 1080p (I guess the most common PS4 native resolution). You'll loose some lines, but columns will match 1:1.
Ahh yes yes I see now.
"PS4 Remote Play: Screens are mirrored on PS4/Vita (Both on at same time). Hardware does it/not on devs. Start at any time; no special mode" that's pretty sweet
Exactly what i wanted. Now we want to know if gaikai will allow the vita to play any ps4 game anywhere we want without turning the ps4 on or even owning one :). I want to play ps4 game on my vita in the bus while going to college or play in coffe shop hehehe..
that's just like the people who keep thinking Gaikai will be used to stream PS4 games onto PS3 no. forward-compatibility doesn't exist here because it doesn't make financial sense.
"without turning the PS4 on or even owning one" that won't happen, there will be some kind of security check, where if your on your Vita on the bus and want to play a PS4 game, Gaikai will 1st connect to your PS4 at home(confirming you have one) then allow you to stream the game to the Vita while your on the bus. Or maybe you can only sign up to Gaikai with the PS4, and no options will appear on the Vita to stream unless a PS4 with your account is registered. those are just examples, but trust me, Sony will not let you stream play PS4 games unless you have a PS4. They want to sell the hardware
If it used gaikai it's technically not remote play, just regular streaming
Your PS4 is the server. There is no cloud (at this point). As such your Vita must be linked to your PS4 and as such it must be "on". The games will still run on the PS4, only the output will be re-directed to the Vita (and use its controls). Same as remote play (this also allows you to switch your PS3 or off, for example - you do not need to switch on the PS3 and then enable remote play). But with the difference, that streaming will not tax the system and hence allows full scale PS4 games to run on the Vita.
Well, I will be owning one. I just didn't want to waste electricity lol When i think about it i think it is possible but just like what torchic and KrisButtar said. Sony won't do it that way...
It's funny how all you sony fanboys are so excited about remote play when the Wii U does this and more straight out of the box. Also users don't need to buy a $200 vita (which is failing) on top of that for remote play to work. lol
Always negative. Here's a thought. Can you "remote play" on the Wii U when your not at home? When your more than say (goin high here) 200 ft from your console, does the second screen still work on the Wii. For example, If I go out of town and still want to play PS4 games then I still can on the Vita. That's what people are excited about. You can respond to this if you want...oh wait you can't. You won't be getting a Ps4 anyways because it doesn't have analog buttons so this doesn't even have anything to do with you. The PS4 has a list a features 10 pages long(exaggeration) and you pick out analog button as the reason you won't get it. Yeah we all believe that one. Please tell me how many games used this feature besides GT5?
"PS4 controller buttons are going back to digital over analog because no one used it on PS3"
I did, it did wonders when I was doing GT5 with a controller. This decision hurt me hard.
And when PS5 is released, I can see touchpad, sixaxis and others gimmicks being dropped.
Nah, sticks and buttons are the gimmick, I can't wait until they get dropped.
I think they probably mean the actual botton like the XO and such. I dont think they will get rid of the L2/R2 as analogue. Thats the way i read it.
That's the problem. I was able to fully enjoy the analog face buttons since PS2, it was my biggest enjoyment for my thumbs when getting that just amount of acceleration in GT's and such. What may be minor to others is a big blow to me.
If you can get a GT5 steering wheel or one of the other logitech ones makes GT5 awesome to play.
You know that on the DS3 every button is analog (0...255), not just the triggers (exceptions are L3/R3/Start/Select). What this means is, those standard buttons are not analog any more. Which might be a little bit of a problem for Triangle/Circle use in racing games, I admit. I guess this will default to R2/L2 now, huh?
I have been using R3 for acceleration and braking since GT4 on PS2. Works way better then X/Triangle or L2/R2 in terms of sensitivity. Honestly shocked people are still seemingly "dependant" on something that has IMO been obsolete for quite some time now.
@ Yewles1: I didnt understand this quote. What does that mean?
Me neither, I don't get it haha.
"Core gamers are our primary audience"
So what is Msoft's primary audience?
Kinect Kids and COD and sports junkies (not hardcores)
PS4 controller colors are the Player Numbers: 1-Blue, 2-Red, 3-Green, 4-Pink (Like the buttons)
So a PS system will finally have a limited of 4 players?
How many games on the ps3 actually used more than 4? Developers just don't make games that support more than 4 locally and the titles that do are rare. Hell even split screen gaming is becoming less common
all of ea sports franchise support the maximum number of players locally.(fifa madden etc)