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Submitted by dungeonboss 538d ago | opinion piece

Battlefield 4 Wii U Would Be Less Risky than Next-Gen

NintendoDude analyzes the reasons why bringing Battlefield 4 and other multiplatform games to Wii U is less risky than investing in other "next gen" consoles. (Battlefield 4, PS4, Wii U, Xbox One)

NYC_Gamer  +   538d ago
It's because the fan base for BF4 type games doesn't exist on Wii-U
SonyNGP  +   537d ago
That doesn't prevent it from existing though.
ABizzel1  +   537d ago
"The Wii U is in many ways more powerful than the current Xbox 360 and PS3,"

Lies. The Wii-U is anywhere from 50% - 1.5x more powerful than the PS360. 2x at most in prime condition for the Wii-U (updates that cut the OS footprint on RAM, and other updates that could improve CPU speeds etc...).

"as has already been proven by several high profile ports. Battlefield 4 is coming to Xbox 360 and PS3."

PS360 have 70+ million users, Wii U hasn't broke 10 million. Battlefield 3 has already proven it's success on the PS360, look at Call of Duty for the Wii U. Why would EA risk not getting a profit on a Wii U port when the best selling game of this generation failed to push past 1,000,000 sold on the Wii U.

The majority of Nintendo fans don't buy 3rd party games, and soon Nintendo will be stuck with having less and less 3rd party support, unless they get lucky and get a PS360 port. Zombi U is still the best selling 3rd party Wii U game and it still hasn't reached 500k in sales.

"f the Wii U is unproven, however, then what does that bode for Microsoft and Sony’s next-gen offerings?"

True, but their predecessors proved that their core audience will support this kind of game. The Wii didn't do anything for core third party games, and the Wii-U has had 4 month to fix that and it's failed thus far.

At the end of the day this is the entertainment business, and if the market isn't there it's not going to happen. Call of Duty Wii U failed, and so many of those big FPS games are going to pass on the Wii U and Nintendo, because the audience just isn't there.
aceitman  +   537d ago
the wii u has only 2,740,662 http://www.vgchartz.com/wee... how many do u think will buy battlefield 4 , and for them to sell 160,000 copies of black ops 2 for wii u as of feb 27th with only 1,000 people online I doubt b4 will sell well on it. http://www.digitaltrends.co...
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stragomccloud  +   537d ago
@ABizzel1
I don't even know where to start with how misinformed you are about the Wii Us power.
So I won't. I really don't want to type a really long post about the architecture.
So, I'll just say, no. No. Just no.
_LarZen_  +   537d ago
Aye, just look at Black Ops 2. There is almost no people playing online.

Most people buy a Wii U for the Nintendo games.
gedden7  +   537d ago
Talk and Marketing for COD was mostly for Xbxox and PS3, not to mention the 4-6 yrs of gamers playing CoD on those consoles. IF BO2 would have done those numbers on Wii U from the start... THAT would be UNPRECEDENTED!
Yodagamer  +   537d ago
Plus i really doubt anybody knows black ops is on the wii u due to activision dropping it with no ads saying, "hey it's on the wii u"
Dj7FairyTail  +   537d ago
I wonder why OH THAT RIGHT
MONSTER HUNTER TRI ULTIMATE CAME OUT
gamefiles  +   537d ago
yeah, not for the exclusives
1upgamer99  +   537d ago
I play BOPS 2 online, and have no problem finding people. There are not as many people as PS3 had (I used to play BOPS2 on that, but really like the gamepad) I think that some of you think 720/PS4 are going to have 20 million units out in a few months, and that is just not going to happen. It did not happen in the past and its not going to happen this next time around.
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Neonridr  +   537d ago
partially true... but I would be willing to bet that most Wii U owners have either a PS3 or 360 as well. The reason why they wouldn't buy it on the Wii U is because they would prefer the larger multiplayer base on the established systems. Thus they opt out of purchasing it for the Wii U and get it for the PS3 or 360 instead.

Of course this method of thinking will never help out the Wii U. People have to be willing to buy it on that console first and foremost, in order to help the sales of multiplat games.
delboy  +   537d ago
But if it runs better on wiiu I would skip it on ps3.
TruthbeTold  +   537d ago
delboy, I think playing the game where your friends are playing it is just as important, if not more important than the game running better. You just aren't going to see too many multiplatform games with PS360 yet that have large online gaming populations.
jacksheen0000  +   537d ago
@NYC_Gamer

True,
But Having BF4 on the wii U would've help Nintendo win back some core gamers.
n4f  +   537d ago
i think its more for project origin. people should search for project origin
http://www.ign.com/boards/t...
this guy sums a lot of thing and im starting to think ea is fed up
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

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herbs  +   537d ago
Too bad, I personally think the Wii U would be great for first person shooters. It's nice having several control options and I really would like to play a quality FPS using the wiimote. (I find aiming manually more interactive) I guess I'm in the minority though sadly.
-_-
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scissor_runner  +   537d ago
Most people with a wiiu already have an older system.

What is funny is what are they going to do when the other next gen come out and they sell just as slow due to pricing.

It really is a self fulfilling situation. Maybe Nintendo needs to just bring out their own halo or cod? Advance wars fps would be sweet though rts meets fps on the ground al la quake wars.
neogeo  +   537d ago
metroid
Starfox-17  +   537d ago
Less risky than other did u read it other nextgen consoles.
Enemy  +   537d ago
If this a serious article? Hardcore games never sell better on Nintendo platforms. End of discussion.
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lilbroRx  +   537d ago
Exept for No More Heroes 1 and 2, Resident Evil Umbrella/Darkside Chronicles, House of the Dead Overkill, etc
PopRocks359  +   537d ago
To be fair, those are rare exceptions. Nintendo doesn't have Microsoft's luxury of being able to outright rely on third part support. However, that doesn't mean 3rd party games are never successful on their products. The ones you listed are good examples, as are Resident Evil and Kingdom Hearts on the 3DS.
InTheLab  +   537d ago
Gonna need to see some links. I'm pretty sure all of those sold under 500k...which should explain why 2 of them are multiplats.

Red Steel, Extraction, Conduit, Madworld...all bombed on Wii and were under $20 shortly after launch, and I should know because I bought them all for under $20 new.
AZWification2  +   537d ago
InTheLab, Resident Evil Umbrella sold 1.4 million copies. Also, MadWorld sold 0.7 million, Red Steel sold 0.6 million, The Conduit sold a bit over 0.5 million, etc....
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lilbroRx  +   537d ago
@In the lab First off, the reason I used those games was because they were also on the PS3/360 and they sold more on the Wii than on those console.

Second. No More Heroes was Suda 51's best selling game on a single console ever till this day. Suda 51 had a party to celebrate it because it was such a huge success. How is that bombing?

Third. Wii development cost was a fraction of what it was for the 360/PS3. The average cost of developing a major Wii game was from 3-10 mil. The average cost of developing a major PS3/360 game was from 15-30 mil. Anything that sold over 200-300k on the Wii made a profit. 500k+ was gold on the Wii. Most major PS3/360 games need to be a million seller just to break even. That's why so many studios and companies went bankrupt developing for them.

Fourth. Of the 140 mil+ sellers the Wii had, only about 25 were Nintendo IPs. Every Call of Duty on the Wii except MW3 was a million+ seller. It was released after the Wii U announcement so the Wii on its downturn. MW3 sold 600k so it still made a quite a bit of profit.
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dungeonboss  +   537d ago
@_-EDMIX-_ True, RE6 sold almost 6 million copies. It was also considered a failure and Capcom LOST money, even with over 5 million copies sold. Makes me wonder how anyone is going to afford development on PS4 and 720.
Starfox-17  +   537d ago
Nintendo consoles incuding handhelds on lots of occasions outsell sony and microsoft on 3rd party games its just the publishers dont let u know,for instance Sonic racing on WiiU sold around 300,000 that's more than ps3 and 360 combined now the wiiu has 3/4 million consoles worldwide and ps3 and 360 have around a 140 million yet wiiu out sold both consoles on this game which speaks volumes for Nintendo's wiiu going forward,games are selling less and less on ps3 and 360 FACT get over it.

140 million consoles yet only 210,000 units sold is about 0.3 on both consoles is poor.

3/4 million consoles and around 300,000 units sold is about 8% which is quite amazing.

Yeah 3rd party games dont sell on Nintendo consoles yeah right.
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Dj7FairyTail  +   537d ago
That funny considering
Nintendo have hardcore games.

Sony games don't sell.
nintendoland  +   537d ago
there is no such thing as hardcore game. There are just hardcore gamers.
gedden7  +   537d ago
I would BUY BF4 for Wii U in a HEART BEAT and the next CoD (if fixed) for xbox or their next gen consoles...
imXify  +   537d ago
I would freaking love BF4 for WiiU....playing with wiimote =(
just-joe  +   537d ago
What can you say, the gaming industry is a.....*puts glasses on* Battlefield.

Then again EA is a ..... Bad Company.
n4f  +   537d ago
YEEEAAAAAHHHH!!!!111
GraveLord  +   537d ago
LMFAO This is a joke right?
MurDocINC  +   537d ago
I think wii u is going to sale very good at this year's holidays. It's going to look good with cheaper price, innovative gamepad and big game library they built up over a year. Plus Nintendo has 1 year to fix their system/network bugs and expand their network apps and features. Also it supports wii motes and wii games.

Nintendo is playing it smart and EA might be missing out.
herbs  +   537d ago
To bad EAs priorities dont include Wii U support, I know I would have bought Crisis 3 and BF4 for my U in a heart beat. Its unfortunate that EA and Nintendo seem to both have there heads shoved way up there own asses.
shackdaddy  +   537d ago
Ya. I don't get it. Wouldn't it be the most profitable if you developed a loyal fanbase on all three platforms? I mean, it might be harder to get a Nintendo fanbase for a shooter, but if they market everything correctly and try to make a good port then it's definitely possible...

I would definitely buy BF4 if it came out on wiiu. Interactive map for the commander would be an amazing feature. And off-TV play would be great too.
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Magnus  +   537d ago
I think EA should put Battlefield out on the Wii-U it would add sales. Hell I would be tempted to try it out if its a challange.
Starfox-17  +   537d ago
Well EA are just not very clever Activision will see increased sales on their next COD wiiu outing because of the quality of their 1st game,its called building momentum so going forward you build a solid fan base on that console,u can't disregard a console then when its got say 10 milion plus user base jump on and expect massive sales it doesn't work this way,with new consoles you have to build momentum and it can be slow at first but in the long run it works EA are blind towards this,hell Nintendo's wiiu has miiverse and that makes your game even more popular than ever before if its a quality game it builds a massive fan base that you can see right there in real time on the main menu/miiverse and this is like advertising 3rd party games for free on every wiiu console ie you buy a wiiu boot it up bam you see the most popular games right there on the menu with bubbles saying this game is awesome ect ect,now if this isnt the best way to get consumers to buy your games tell me what is ????
Magnus  +   537d ago
Companies bitch because their games are selling shitty. Like recent SquareEnix is bitching because Tomb Raider Hitman and Sleeping Dogs did not perform their numbers that SquareEnix wanted. I am surprised a big title like Tomb Raider totally missed the Wii-U and was not released. Not hitting the Wii-U with that title is closing you off to part of the market. Sure the numbers might be high or they might be low for sales but the Wii-U is part of the videogame market and its sales do add number to a title.
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   537d ago
*Clap, Clap, Clap*

Bravo NintendoDude, Bravo!
"Excellent-Yes"

May your Spin-Attacks Kill all your foes and your Screw-Attacks lead you upwards.

Yeah this adds further credibility that EA is just mad about ORIGIN. *Shrug* Whatever.
RFornillos4  +   537d ago
i still think this issue is because of the "Origin" deal.

on the other hand, you may also notice that BF4 has only been confirmed for PS3, Xbox 360 and PC with no next-gen confirmations. my take on this is that, Microsoft has yet to announce their NXBox; and i bet MS is willing to pay tons of cash to EA for BF4 to be a timed exclusive to the next XBox. and that the announcement will happen on or before E3 2013.

as for the Wii U, i agree with the comments that the main reason that not many people got Black Ops 2 Wii U is the fact that the user base was not yet high, and most of their friends are playing it on PS3 and 360. but as more people get into the Wii U, the next iterations would hopefully improve that.

so BF4 on Wii U? don't really care much, coz i'd probably get it on a PC anyway.
zeldafreak404  +   537d ago
im pretty much bummed because supposedly they scrapped bf3 to bring bf4 to wii u an article stated that a while back
HalfNerdHalfAmazing  +   537d ago
Excuses excuses Nintendo always get the short end of the stick

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