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Submitted by redblack 829d ago | news

Lots of PS4 hardware tidbits

Mark Cerny, the lead architect behind the PlayStation 4, chatted with Impress Watch and shared a whole bunch of hardware tidbits. A number of details have been translated by the good folks over at NeoGAF.

There are some technical tidbits here that the average Joe like myself doesn’t fully grasp, but there’s also interesting talk about resolution, 4k gaming, multitasking, and more. You can find a pretty comprehensive summary of the information from Impress Watch below. (Mark Cerny, PS4, Tag Invalid)

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Godmars290  +   830d ago
So if the PS4's drive can read but not playback, will that mean tracks can be copied off a disc?
forcefullpower  +   829d ago
I wonder if they are talking about SACD for music and not general audio music CD's as they was removed a while ago as well from the PS3. Then again i haven't used a music CD in over 8 years at home. I do burn them off for the car.
rainslacker  +   829d ago
Seems that they won't be directly playable. Pretty cut and dry. Whether they can be copied it's hard to imagine them doing that.

I did like the follow up later down where he hinted that PS1 discs may be playable on the system. This means that digital titles will also likely be playable, and if true could mean some BC is included. Good news for me since I have a lot of PS1 games.
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kalkano  +   829d ago
I'd imagine this means we'll be able to rip them into mp3s, for use in specific games (sports game playlists/music cues, etc.).
_-EDMIX-_  +   829d ago
Misleading. PS4 drive can't play by MUSIC CD's! Reading and installing data from a disk are different things.

I mean, its a nice try to make it sound like its a big deal....its not. It really isn't. If thats the biggest gripe you have, I'm not sure you will own either of the 2 systems.

I never used the feature on PS3, despite buying The Mars Volta's last 2 albums on CD, Mastodon's The Hunter Album on CD and buying Smashing Pumpkin's Oceania on CD....I installed ALL OF THEM ON PS3, why on earth would I use playback from the CD? It waste of space in my tray to be honest with you.
wenaldy  +   829d ago
Oh man, i love Mastodon + Mars Volta.
The_Infected  +   830d ago
"They don’t just use off-the-shelf HSA stuff; they are using OpenGL to the point of “full access to the hardware.”

And that's how you pull the absolute full potential from hardware. No wasted power hiding away in the corner.
GribbleGrunger  +   830d ago
What is BSD? Explain to me as you would a child ... I'm technically inept.
yewles1  +   830d ago | Helpful
BSD is a OS type capable of low memory footprint. This basically confirms earlier leaks of the OS taking up only 512MB of RAM.
GribbleGrunger  +   830d ago
Ah, cheers and bubble.
forcefullpower  +   829d ago
BSD is a very robust Unix kernel much like Linux so we should have very small foot print for both memory and space. This is a good thing.
RandomDude655  +   829d ago
I like this quote:
BSD is what you get when a bunch of Unix hackers sit down to try to port a Unix system to the PC. Linux is what you get when a bunch of PC hackers sit down and try to write a Unix system for the PC.

http://www.over-yonder.net/...
T2  +   828d ago
Lol " as you would a child " ... Great line I too am ignorant of tech specs
jay2  +   830d ago
Sounds good and BSD is a Unix style operating system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Here;s some BSD Operating systems for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
BitbyDeath  +   830d ago
"He mentions using BD and Hard drive combo for game reads and how to cut down load times."

Interesting if this is going to become standard nextgen.
DigitalSmoke  +   829d ago
I remember some article on how the MS Durango would'nt load games directly from Bluray, but would offload them first to drive.

No double data pipe's if thats true.
_-EDMIX-_  +   829d ago
@DigitalSmoke0 Your right! MS is not planning to use the drive to play games, just to install them.

Its going to be to get rid of the used games market. I don't see how it can't at this point.
thereapersson  +   829d ago
I haven't read the article just yet
But it seems that a PC-style method of background HDD caching and disc-streaming will be the norm, yes. At least, that's what I am assuming. The PS4 has a faster BD-ROM drive this time around, so it will be easier for the discs to keep up with the HDD (very difficult with the slow disc drive in the PS3 currently)
nevin1  +   829d ago
"They mention having to drop BC as being a necessary evil to make sure devs will be happy going forward."

lol
Parapraxis  +   829d ago
PS3 had a unique architecture, they can't just squeeze everything needed for PS3 game playback into the PS4 just to satisfy the need for BC.
They wanted a more game design-friendly platform, so they are using a completely different programming environment.
rainslacker  +   829d ago
It appears PS1 may be playable(still vague on the confirmation). Still holding out hope for PS2 emulation through software. PS3 is pretty understandable given the differences in architecture, but I fail to see how removing that stuff actually changes anything from a development standpoint.

The only way to locally do PS3 BC would be with hardware in the system, and as such would have no effect on the programming of PS4 games. So yeah, this reasoning doesn't make sense. If you look at the launch PS3's, the emotion engine chip being added into the system didn't effect development of PS3 titles, since it wasn't accessible through the PS3 API's.
DigitalSmoke  +   829d ago
U know BC would have meant a CELL based system again right?...
they did well, the entire industry loved them for it.

Except u.. Lol indeed.
patriz420  +   829d ago
They actually drop BC because of all the money they make off us suckers paying twice for a remake of a 10 year old game. Its not that hard to understand, to all devs we are idiots drooling with cash in our hands ready to hand over. we all have an opinion on games and fav systems but at the end of it all we are the suckers.

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