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Bioshock Infinite Review | Paste

Paste: "Last week on Twitter I described Bioshock Infinite as a 'shooting spree at Disney’s Main Street while Zooey Deschanel throws stuff at you'. I was maybe halfway through Infinite when I wrote that, and now that I’ve finished the game I can admit that there’s far more here than that bad joke indicates. There’s too much more. Bioshock Infinite is a game where the story comes first, and that story slowly contorts itself into a convoluted mess." (BioShock: Infinite, PC, PS3, Xbox 360) 7.5/10

Neixus  +   547d ago
My ladies and gentlemen, i present to you, the first review that gives bioshock a low score!

*audience doesn't care
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LOGICWINS  +   547d ago
7.5 is a low score?

facepalm/

This is the problem with gamers today.
rezzah  +   547d ago
It may not be a low score, but is the lowest score the game has received so far.
LOGICWINS  +   547d ago
Your point?
Neixus  +   547d ago
no, it's clearly not a low score. as i had the oppurtunity. I wanted to get it out,before any hypocritical person actually says it is a low score..

was just joking, everyone knows that alot of people take 7 as a low score.
God, people are so butthurt sometimes
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LOGICWINS  +   547d ago
Sure whatever you say.
GribbleGrunger  +   547d ago
Yeah, I know what you mean, Logic (even though your comment is short) but there IS something galling about this. I will probably never play this game and to be honest it was never on my radar, but when every other review gives it at least 9/10, you have to question the elephant in the room. I'm not angered by this ... I'm just a little disappointed.
LOGICWINS  +   547d ago
@Gribble-Every review is questionable these days.

Too high

"Reviewers got paid off"

Too low

"Haters"

This just goes to show that the best opinion regarding a game's worth is your own.
rezzah  +   547d ago
Depends on how you look at it, could be a good or bad thing.
-Gespenst-  +   547d ago
At the end of the day GribbleGrunger, you should just read the review. He makes good points. Quite often, a person is deemed a "hater" by mob rule, not any reasoned debate. Of course there are genuine reactionary haters who don't know what they're talking about, but this guy ain't one of them.

Just because a game predominantly receives high scores doesn't mean some people aren't going to take issue with it. In fact, I'm pretty sure there are seriously shittily written reviews amongst all those 9/10 'ers.
DigitalRaptor  +   547d ago
It's hard to see how a damn near immaculate game can be perceived with flaws enough to bring it down 2.5 points on the scale. Irrational aimed so high (pun not intended) that the fact that they pulled off such a wonder is nothing short of magnificent.

Sometimes a game in which the sum of its parts add up to an impeccable experience that has so few flaws that would affect it in any damaging capacity is worthy of the praise.

Infinite is one of those games in which the quality speaks for itself in so many ways. All the elements just piece together as a modern day masterpiece should. Not only is it near flawless, but it introduces gameplay systems and storytelling never before seen in gaming, even if aspects of it seem familiar.

7.5 is reserved for good/great games. Infinite is something incredible.
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IcyEyes  +   547d ago
Yes.
7.5 is a low score for a product value like Bioshock infinite.

7.5 is a VERY high score for Aliens colonial marines.

7.5 is a low score for Dark Knight.
7.5 is an awesome score for Tranformer 2.

Its a matter of "who get what".
3-4-5  +   547d ago
yea 7.5 is a GOOD score. Even 7.0 isn't bad.

4.0-6.0 = bad

Even 6.0-7.0 games have fun elements to them.
chasedagreat  +   547d ago
great review 7.5 sound about right
LOGICWINS  +   547d ago
@IcyEyes- Well..I actually didn't like Dark Knight that much lol
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schlanz  +   547d ago
7.5 is certainly not a high score and its as disappointing as getting a C on a test that you should have aced.
not really, games are 60$, and take up precious time, so saying a game is anything less than 9.0, is like telling me that in your (the reviewers) opinion, that game isn't going to be one of the five i buy that year.

and 7.5 games tend to be slightly abysmal
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   547d ago
For games 7.5 is just above average (7 is average). Depending on certain people average can be low or it can be okay/not a bad score.
CalvinKlein  +   546d ago
yeah it is for you logic when its a ps3 exclusive. Even the bad ones Im sure you cried over getting a 7.5. Like rachet ad clank all for one, I bet you said something like, "its way better than a 7.5, theey are delusional."
adorie  +   547d ago
Reviewer states the game is easy because of Elizabeth, but I beg to wonder if this person was playing on a HARD difficulty or not. I'm leaning on "not".

@Below, if that is true then I will probably tap that Konami code and jump into the abyss early.

I want a challenge at all costs. Who knows, if it is truly easier than specified, maybe we can petition up a DLC that makes the game horrendously hard. Lol.
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rezzah  +   547d ago
I've heard multiple people mention that the game was a bit easy. The mode they played wasn't specified.
barb_wire  +   547d ago
It should also be noted that 'Bioshock' was also easy, actually ridiculously easy.. quite possible to go through that game, not dying and using only the wrench.. still didn't diminish in anyway (for me) on what an incredible game it was.
coolbeans  +   547d ago
Why do you say "low score" to a 7.5/10?

Edit: Okay, fair enough: it's just sarcasm.

Why does the audience not care?

Granted, I can be hesitant to even bother checking out a review with that stupid description posted above, but what's the harm in us actually testing out the criticisms this reviewer has to say about the game and determining if he's/she's "full of it" or actually presenting a well-articulated--if overly-cynical--list of problems the game may have?
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LOGICWINS  +   547d ago
"but what's the harm in us actually testing out the criticisms this reviewer has to say about the game and determining if he's/she's "full of it" or actually presenting a well-articulated--if overly-cynical--list of problems the game may have?"

Because thats asking too much. Suggesting to these people that they should actually READ a review instead of obsessing about a score is too lofty a task.

They would rather close their eyes and cover their ears when they even get whiff of something they disagree with as opposed to analyzing the opinion in question and using facts to prove/disprove them.
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FlunkinMonkey  +   547d ago
@LOGIC

I would say this IS a low score to a follow up of one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time.

Can't wait to get it personally.
-Gespenst-  +   547d ago
Yeah it's not a low score. I'd actually say it's a more reasonable score than these manic, hysterical 9s and 9.5s. The review makes a LOT of really good points. The guy emphasises that he likes the game a lot, but he highlights lots of really crucial issues, some of which could extend to games in general.

These are the kinds of reviews we need to push the games industry forward. You can't just blindly heap praise on a game because of all the cool gadgets and shooting and blood and cool graphics and raawwwwr. You need to have a bit of restraint- you need to think about the game a bit harder, otherwise you're just uncritically and mindlessly consuming.

Probably one of the more intelligent reviews I've read.
joab777  +   547d ago
It is a low score...period. I wont click on the site to giv him what he wants. It isnt the score either. Its other games that get the same score. This is one of the highest rated games ever on metacritic. Now, everyone is allowed their opinion and bioshck certainly isnt for everyone but a 7.5?
ATiElite  +   546d ago
7.5 are you SERIOUS?
Some hole in the wall website giving Bioshock Infinite a LOW Score for Web Hits.

Bioshock Infinite is nothing short of a 9.5

Awesome story, so much to do, great design, great control, lots of innovation.

Story Quality = WTF
Like Website = NO
TrendyGamers  +   547d ago
Is this the lowest score for BioShock so far?
Irishguy95  +   547d ago
Yup, first 'average/good' score i've seen
ApolloTheBoss  +   547d ago
Ignore these guys, they hate everything. They gave Far Cry 3 a 5.5
Sweelix  +   547d ago
Far Cry 3 sucked, it deserved that score
Campy da Camper  +   547d ago
As I don't feel FC3 was stellar, it was not a 5.5. It was a huge improvement over 2 and aside from repitition of taking hideouts, the game was some of the best immersion ever. The animals, hang gliding and guns were awesome.
sinjonezp  +   546d ago
The problem with Far Cry 3 is it became a boring repetitive game after u capture 5 safe houses and towers.. With Vass, the story would have been mediocre. I think far cry 3 deserved a 7.5 - 8. The review expressed its points and should be considered. The game has been put on such a pedestal that we tend to give it due diligence without experiencing the entirety. 7.5 is good, but not without flaws. People should still pick it up.
gamertk421  +   547d ago
Wow, they just scour for hits by taking universally good/great games and throwing a much lower score on it. Don't believe the hype.
-Gespenst-  +   547d ago
Universally good or "majority rule" good? They're not the same thing. Another word often associated with the "majority" is often the "vulgar masses".

Just because a lot of people like something doesn't make it universally good. In fact it probably points to a really homogenous culture who've been "told" things are good, but deprived of any perspective beyond the one directed to the spoon that feeds them.
miker00lz  +   544d ago
Far Cry 3 is one of the worst games to come out in a few years imo. There aren't many games that bore me as much as FC3 does. It's got amazing graphics, but the gameplay feels straight out of a 2005 shooter. It's repetitive and all of the NPCs in the game might as well be cardboard cutouts. They don't feel real at all.
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Blacklash93  +   547d ago
Don't really understand the reasoning for not liking the story. I know it and if you've ever been able to wrap your head around a movie like Looper, Inception, or the Matrix you'll have little issue understanding this story. Zachary Comstock has plenty of interesting character too, despite how it should be much harder to relate with his intense xenophobia and nationalism.

And criticizing Elizabeth's character for being a helpful gameplay participant and a central device in the story, as she's been told to be countless times? I don't get it.
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Rageanitus  +   547d ago
Bioshock 1/2 got pretty dam good reviews..... having said that I did not really find the first two that good.
Much preffered the upgrade scheme found in Deus Ex.

But hey that is my opinion. Im sure I am gonna pick this one up just like I did with the others, but not at launch
Redgehammer  +   547d ago
Compared to 10s, 7.5 is low. Is it a low score? Not really, but upon reading it, I think the reviewer should be reviewing things like: cutlery sets, propane tanks, or anything else not related to gaming.
miker00lz  +   544d ago
Yeah, how dare anybody disagree with you. I really enjoyed the game a lot, but this guy hits on some good points that the other reviews completely ignored. I think this guy is wrong about Elizabeth though, she felt very much alive and that we had a connection. Most of the other things he says has some merit.

The story is just so interesting that people giving it perfect scores are so wrapped up in it, that they don't notice some real flaws. I think they'll realize that once they've calmed down. I thought the biggest problem was that around half way through the game, the combat gets way too repetitive and there needs to be more types of enemy. In almost every fight it just throws like 20 soldiers and a couple George Washington mechs at you. I kept playing because I wanted to learn what came next in the story.
Redgehammer  +   544d ago
Anyone is allowed to believe what they want, as am I.
ziggurcat  +   547d ago
the problem with "too easy" critiques are:

1. they're probably not playing on the hardest difficulty.

and

2. anyone with a good amount of experience playing any shooter will not find any FPS difficult, especially if played on normal difficulty. even the first bioshock wasn't terribly difficult after you got to a certain point. bolt gun + invisibility = damned near indestructible when all you need to do is hide, wait and headshot everyone, even on the hardest difficulty (and on PS3, there's that extra difficulty level).

the same with the flawed "too short" argument that a lot of reviewers have with games these days. likely not experienced with the hardest difficulty, nor did the individual likely go out of his/her way to obtain all of the collectibles. if your goal is to barrel through the game as quickly as possible, and ignore the secondary stuff, then it's obviously not going to take you very long to get to a game's ending.
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SeraphimBlade  +   547d ago
... want... to call... BS... can't.... haven't played actual game.... must... remain... objective... nrrrrrgggghhh...

This is always the most frustrating part when review embargoes break. And I don't consider 7.5 a "bad" score (Alpha Protocol was one of my favorites this gen) but when I'm seeing nothing but 9-10s for the most part, I think the game's a little more than "okay."
Kurt Russell  +   546d ago
May be I am just cynical, but I have played a lot of 9's that I thought were pretty poor games. Most of which are shooters funny enough. I don't think reviewers really have the same eye for quality as I do as a consumer. Too many highly rated shallow games review well, too many unique exciting experiences are rated low because of the odd fluffy texture :/
miker00lz  +   544d ago
Exactly. I've also played some seriously shitty games that scored lots of 8.5s or better. Far Cry 3 is one of the best recent examples, imo one of the worst games in years. Same goes for the new Tomb Raider.
Zizi  +   547d ago
Don't judge a game until you play it. :D
rezzah  +   547d ago
What you say is true, the problem is the fact that money should be spent to play it. However, there are ways to get what you want without having to spend money.
TheOneEyedHound  +   547d ago
Bj's?
FarCryLover182  +   547d ago
7.5? This game must suck then!

hahahahahah

Still buying day 1
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pythonxz  +   547d ago
Reviews are a guideline, not a determining factor...always keep that in mind.

Personally, I don't find the 7.5 a low score, but the fact that he gave it such a lower score next to other review sites, makes me think he's doing it to get hits.
Crazay  +   547d ago
your first point is well taken. HOWEVER, I don't disagree with their assessment in my short time with the game. I also feel the gameplay is a little unbalanced but have not yet rendered my final decision.
Crazay  +   547d ago
I've only had the opportunity to play for about 3hrs so far and I don;t disagree with this post at all in the least. Good post
MestreRothN4G  +   547d ago
Wtf? No
josephayal  +   547d ago
Overrated?
Tokyo_reject  +   547d ago
Who ever did this review......stick with your day job...stop writing articles...
TheOneEyedHound  +   547d ago
I never cared about opinions/reviews, but I don't see how in the worldwide a 7.5 is possible, for a game with so much craftmenship.
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Tokyo_reject  +   546d ago
He's trying to get attention thats all....i think n4g should just ban him for being a troll...he knew he would get a rise outta people....thats what trolls do
TheOneEyedHound  +   547d ago
This game is incredible, if you are a guy that appericates everything around you, from posters,music,views,design in general you will love this game alot.

The reviewer was already bashing it before he finished it.
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Veneno  +   546d ago
Read this review and it pretty much sums up how I felt about the original Bioshock. Overrated. Goo to see some else out there sees it. Im sure its a good game worth checking out, but not the next gaming jesus everyon3 else is making it out to be.
FlyingFoxy  +   546d ago
Opinions are just that, don't always go with the majority. it's like when you see a film you like on Imdb have a lower score than you thought it deserves, look at Killing Floor it has a metacritic of 72 but the fun factor of that game makes it an easy 80.
Gamer-Z  +   546d ago
wtf 7.5
Danniel1  +   546d ago
The thing is, even though 7.5 isn't a terrible score (75% in a university exam is extremely good for instance), I am suspicious when everyone gives out 10/10 and then there's that one guy throwing an unexpectedly low score out.

To the point that I don't want to read the review because I can't shake the feeling that site is just trawling for hits. It's a shame because the review might be good but I've become a ball of pure cynicism during my time using N4G lol.
pissed999  +   546d ago
Lets give it a shitty review to be edgy. That will give us hits.

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