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Microsoft's maddening Next Xbox silence at GDC

CVG: Monday Muse - Microsoft no-show is Sony's gain

2013 is a special year in particular for the industry, with the next generation of core systems announced, produced and sold during a frenzied and fascinating twelve months.

But the Xbox team will not be attending. They have for some reason decided against exhibiting at the most important GDC of the past ten years.

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Good_Guy_Jamal1134d ago

So you want them to show up and talk about an unannounced console? Yeah that makes sense.

JoGam1134d ago

I got a feeling Microsoft will attack BIG and HARD at E3. If they don't.....OH MY......

Godmars2901134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

You mean like they've done with the last few E3s when it was more about selling Kinect? Addressing the general market rather than gamers?

I mean we've been through this "Oh, MS's really going to wow everyone this E3!" only to get a "WTF!?"

JoGam1134d ago

I know right? Thats why I said they have to come correct this E3, because if they don't all hell will break loose. They will just hand next gen over to Sony.

gaffyh1134d ago

@godmars - True, but that just means that they are more likely to have more things to show at this E3. I mean their first party studios haven't really made any significant games in the last few years, so they might have something surprising to show.

Godmars2901134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

No, past examples of lackluster consumer focused presentations does not mean that they'll wow gamers this time around. They just mean that more than likely this E3 will be the same as the last. That the chances are low that there'll be major announcements for gamers.

You know what? We've all played this game before. I'm just getting these ready:

TheGrimReaper1134d ago

imho MS's E3 conference WILL wow many people this year.
Reasons?
a) first time we will see their new console
b) because of the lackluster, previous E3 shows which this show will be compared to

They couldn't do any worse than the past E3s!
At least I'm hoping so...

Strong competition is always good for us gamers.
New IPs would be great or I'll skip their box like this gen (played every Halo coop at a friends house and Mass Effect 1/2/3 on PC).

DOMination-1134d ago

Their silence is frustrating but its interesting how so many are discussing them despite it. There is a lot of hype quietly gaining and they haven't even announced anything yet.

I hope their eventual reveal will be worth the wait

darthv721134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

the internet is building the hype for them. Silence speaks volumes. Even bad press is better than no press at all.

So in the end, all the bad press will have to culminate into one big i told you so (if nothing is shown) or they will be in staunch silence because they cant think of anything other than how their minds were blown away with what MS does show.

@mike you have a good point. Personal expectations will never be achieved with all the waiting we are having to do. But that could be the intention as well.

whoever they have keeping things tight lipped are really doing their job well. Leaks generally happen unless you want them to happen which we dont know one way or the other if what has been leaked was to throw people off track.

This eventual reveal will be both huge in the perspective of finally getting to know the details and disappointing because afterwards there will be no more secrets to try and dig up. There will be way more talk about it than there has been for the PS4. That certainly seems the case so far.

MikeMyers1134d ago

JoGam,

I hope so but the longer they wait the more people will expect. At some point no matter what they show will never satisfy everyone.

I love the move Sony did because it has taken the limelight away from Microsoft in one key area, North America. The PS4 is getting free marketing because anytime a developer wants to mention a game, whether it be Battlefield 4, Diablo III or Watch Dogs they can't even hint it's coming to the new Xbox.

There is obviously an agreement put in place that only Microsoft can unveil the next Xbox and they so far have only hinted it being at E3.

The bottom line is neither system is even for sale yet and consumers will have months to decide after E3. It just shows how hungry people are for some information. I'm worried those leaks (on the next Xbox) are accurate because in this day and age it's very hard to keep a lid on everything. If not you have to hand it to them for keeping it so secretive and if it isn't what we imagined at E3 that could be huge for them. That is if it actually delivers.

Godmars2901134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

But what can MS do at this point than something which dismisses the negative rumors?

Will used games be playable? Will their next system require an always on online connection? Will Kinect also have to be connected for the console to work? These are three questions that can and likely will be ignored during E3 because they'll have more important things to talk about. So they may as well answer them now.

Again, the rumors are not about how it gives blow jobs and cocaine, but rather will it do what other game systems have done before it - which is play games.

They've already been given BC by Sony to tout about, rib them over showing an actual console when they first show their console, but those are going to me wholly minor points. Just like the questions being asked now until they're confirmed.

KaBaW1134d ago

There is a difference, though, about an aging console and a new one.
They'd be highly stupid to not have some exclusives put away for it.

ArmrdChaos1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

Some people just try way too hard. Agendas are pretty transparent around here. There has to be a better use for this time.

Godmars2901134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

None of my comments here have nothing to do with console exclusives. The subject here is system performance. MS not addressing rumors which could negatively impact them if confirmed. Rumors which could be continued to go unaddressed if they want to well after the system is announced.

Evil-snuggles1133d ago TrollingShow
dcbronco1133d ago

The people that really need to know what Microsoft is doing now actually already know. They are the developers. They've probably known for a few years now. Because they have been developing the games for a while. No matter how maddening the press feels it is not to know, they don't matter. They need to develop a real talent that allows them to come up with topics for articles and stop waiting for someone else to do their jobs for them.

Or they can go back to what they usually do. Making stuff up. It doesn't matter what MS does or doesn't show them. They will only spin it into something else. It's what they do to all companies because it sells newspapers and gets hits on websites.

So go make up some stories. Or better yet, develop a real eye for news and report on the 100 other things happening in gaming that could use the spotlight. MS will release information when they decide it is time. Hearing about things 2 or 3 years in advance is a waste and takes attention away from deserving things that are available now or soon.

rainslacker1133d ago (Edited 1133d ago )

@God

While I agree that the past couple MS conferences have been pretty lackluster, if they were to go and announce the Xbox at this E3 you can expect it to be a pretty big event. They could screw it up and make it completely uninteresting, but no doubt they will at least try to match Sony's own announcement.

Personally though, I think they'd be better off announcing it before E3. Sony has gotten the ball rolling with their early announcement, and by doing so we already know about the social features, Gaikai, it's new controller, and the level of quality we can expect from the launch games. At E3 they can clarify the things we still have questions about, and most importantly, focus on games. MS will want to do the same thing.

On top of that, announcing before E3 will allow them to gauge public perception about said features of the system, and spend time with that at the conference, or to put some spin on it to make it appealing to the consumer if neccesary.

Anyhow, it's all speculation, but I doubt they will announce at E3. They are however getting pretty close. Maybe they're just hoping to go in with more excitement for it than Sony has going for it right now.

ALLWRONG1133d ago (Edited 1133d ago )

^^^ Damage control alert! ^^^

Sony has yet to show an actual console. So... How exactly is it Sony's gain?

delboy1133d ago

Could be that they have something big in the sleeeve, and want to keep it secret.
If you show it to early, then copycats from Sony might steel it and implement it in ps4.

IcicleTrepan1133d ago

I'm kinda hoping they will show not only the new Xbox but I'm really hoping they will show that Illumiroom is the reason they want a Kinect 2.0 in every box. It's something no other console has and while some may think it's a gimmick I can really see it taking off if it works and is used properly.

MrBeatdown1133d ago (Edited 1133d ago )

@ALLWRONG

"Sony has yet to show an actual console. So... How exactly is it Sony's gain?"
-------------

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow?

'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.'

'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.'

'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.'

'WTF you talkin' bout?' says ALLWRONG, 'I can't see the sweat on my brow! If I can't see it, that means it's not real! It must not exist! Lies! ALL LIES! THERE'S NO PS4! THERE'S NO PS4!'

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF1133d ago

Hilarious that this GDC is considered by the author as the most important in 10 years. Why 10 years? Was it not more important before last gen came out?

Lot's of SDF out there really hyping the failure of Durango. Lot's of little kids out there still crying about kinect, forgetting that the 360 has the best and most version of great 3rd party games out there.

It's going to be a sad day here, when Sony only owners, see that Sony Move is going to get lot's of press this generation, that Apps and dashboard play a big part in their PS4, and that they have to pay for online play with full features.

I can't wait to see them smacked.

MrBeatdown1133d ago (Edited 1133d ago )

@midnight

"Hilarious that this GDC is considered by the author as the most important in 10 years. Why 10 years? Was it not more important before last gen came out?"

What's "hilarious" is that you can't figure out why.

It could be because gaming is more popular than ever. Or maybe it could be because game development has expanded from primarily $50 boxed products to games of all shapes and sizes, on all kinds of platforms from phones to tablets. It could be because gaming has expanded to audiences that extend well beyond traditional gaming platforms. It could be because indie development has exploded in popularity.

Just some things for you to think about between your spurts of fanboy drivel.

otherZinc1133d ago

@godmars290,

They did wow at the last 2 E3 Conferences (M$ did). They've beaten the competition for the last 27 Months! Also, as for "Games", they've had the #1 selling exclusives in those years!

What more do you want?

I also believe M$ is going to lower the "Boom" on the competition with:

*SHOWING a CONSOLE
*DEMONSTRATING what the console can ACTUALLY Do
*And show better games than- Killzone, Infamous, & Knack! (Killzone hasn't "Killed Halo Yet" so what makes this one so special?)
*And I Repeat: NOT Show Sh*t they "HOPE" the console can do in the "FUTURE" that wont be available at LAUNCH! You know, what $ONY said at their reveal of a console that wasnt there for the reveal?.

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kenshiro1001134d ago

They have been too quiet lately.

AngelicIceDiamond1133d ago

Yeah they have, but despite what @Mars says MS will go all out and not a have a "Kinect only show". Which is dumb because MS has way more studios to make core games. And the past few E3's were lackluster because MS had there other studios working on 720 stuff,first party studios have already signed up with Xbox 720 new and old studios.

MS is putting just about eeeverything in the 720, just like a baby that's about to be born you buy all the baby supplies for it. Hence is why new Ip's aren't being done on 360.

MS is quiet on everything, but this could mean a killer show come E3/personal event time.

Even that doens't matter because people on N4G wanna see the absolute worst in MS. MS could announce free online with 6 new exclusive core Ip's and N4G will still find away to spin it and downplay it.

ziggurcat1134d ago

"So you want them to show up and talk about an unannounced console? Yeah that makes sense."

they could've taken GDC as an opportunity to make an official announcement of the system, and possibly give answers on some of the nasty rumours.

JeffGUNZ1133d ago

Why would they do that though? Say they have a cool feature Sony doesn't have planned, why reveal or give any indications and then have Sony adopt it? I'm hoping for an E3 full throttle reveal and details with a November release date. A month or two back they has a count down on their site for E3. It's glaringly obvious MS will announce at E3.

_-EDMIX-_1133d ago

I completely agree. Sony's own press conference show the system and in and out a price yet still wild many I'm not sure why Microsoft didn't do the same at GDC.

if they're waiting for e3 there going to be in a bad position Sony will announce price show the system and show new IP's.

Ju1133d ago (Edited 1133d ago )

That's the problem, though. GDC is for developers not for general audience. Something's up with MS or they just got caught totally off guard.

To get games out by fall they need to pitch their new console to third party devs now and GDC is the place to do it. That they don't just means to me, a lot of third party devs will be disappointed.

Unclear is, if there is something going on behind closed doors. I can't believe MS is letting this slide completely.

But their first mistake was not to announce a new console before GDC. Of course they can't release it at GDC - this is not the right event for that. Now it is tough to have get developers involved if you have no official statement. The ones that know are not allowed to talk. This will delay release titles for the console. If anything, this is just plain stupid of them. But maybe the roles are flipped again. MS being arrogant in the hope they can force devs to support their console based on previous success. We heard that before and we saw how that ended.

Hicken1134d ago

They don't have to talk about the console at all.

"The Future of Xbox."

If they gave people an indication of where they were going with the Xbox brand, that'd be something. It'd start up some buzz for the system, even without mentioning it at all.

Honestly, it's not that hard. People are just too eager to let them off the hook for not saying or doing ANYTHING.

joeorc1133d ago (Edited 1133d ago )

if this was Nintendo, or Sony you bet there would be a ton of threads about Nintendo making another console or Sony's inability to even make a PS4 due to the issue they have with Money.Already the same people that question Nintendo's WiiU or Sony's ability to even be viable in any part of any Market would be all over this fact that Nintendo's WiiU is not selling great or that Sony would not be saying anything for this long could mean big trouble for Sony!

Microsoft is quite a bit more Healthy in the Money dept. but still you can see Many of those very same Threads that would be said of Nintendo or Sony are right now not really said of Microsoft at this point this an many gamer centric websites would have been all over this many times over.

Not saying this is a fact its just what i have observed for the last few years on online forum and Media in this part of the market. when Talking about Gaming and the reporting of News going on about it.

Ju1133d ago

TBH, I think there's something going on. I will go with the not so popular opinion and say MS is messing up again with their platform.

It is fishy they did not counter Sony's announcement. In fact I think it's totally ridiculous not to say anything. For a company like MS takes more than a month to come up with an answer? Really? And we just go along with that?

Unless of course they try to cover something up because they have in fact nothing to show.

I believe the rumors a close to true, and I am sure there is a thing like "Durango" or what ever. But a dev system is no console. It could be a custom PC in a server case or something. Who knows. MS has a history of putting PowerMacs underneath the table and sell it as their next gen machine. Did we forget that?

Either way, I go ahead an make a bolt statement and say they screwed up and Sony is at least 6 month ahead. They will go the money road and invest as much as they can into marketing for E3 instead of engineering just to make sure they can show a box. It's MS after all. Why would this be different this time around.

Durango's architecture is plain stupid. They were running in the totally wrong direction and it's too late to fix it. I have the feeling they are still debating what to do with that. But there's not much to do. They will have to push it out the door (again) and make sure they release with Sony. Let's see if they can get the manufacturing under control and don't release yet another broken console.

Given that Sony - despite all odds - is still a HW power house, I have more trust in Sony than MS to actually deliver on the HW front; yet again.

We'll see. And now, to my entourage (my usually stalkers here), let the disagrees begin. ;)

fermcr1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

Microsoft is hyping the next Xbox by not talking about it ... and by letting rumors run wild.

Conzul1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

Um....no.
I feel no hype for it.

I want Sony to do well this coming gen, but it would just be weird if M$ is truly caught with its pants down. It'll be like PS2 all over again, ensuring that PS5 suffers PS3 syndrome. Success will start skipping every gen for Sony heheh

KaBaW1134d ago

Yeah, I disagree, too. Most of the rumors haven't been good things.
They'd be way better of to dispel all the rumors, at the least.

SilentNegotiator1134d ago

Yeah, all of those rumors about it being less powerful than its competitor and having always on DRM...doing wonders for the hype.

/s

rainslacker1133d ago

There's buzz about the system, but no real quantifiable hype. At least on here, I can't really say how more Xbox oriented forums may be thinking right now.

It's really hard to get excited for something when you don't know anything about it. You can look at rumors, but overall they haven't been terribly positive. It's worth noting that the most talked about rumors of the PS4 before it's announcement weren't entirely positive either. Just goes to show that sometimes it's worth waiting and seeing.

IcicleTrepan1133d ago

I agree. I've never any company clamp down so hard on something before. Even developers making games for it say things like 'this game is coming to PS4, Wii U and other next-gen consoles'. I think they're trying very hard to surprise people when they are finally ready to release it. I don't know if the system will live up to everyone's expectations but the fact they are clamping down so hard makes me think at least they believe they have something..

liquidhalos1133d ago

No i disagree with you, as a current Xbox owner i was planning on staying with the brand before the PS4 specs were announced. Microsoft's silence in the face of quite worrying rumors (always on, kinect always on and no used games) have put me right off of the brand.

Realistically in a none fanboy way. I think this silence is damaging to the Xbox.

I refuse to believe that im the only person in the world who has shifted towards Sony for next gen because of the silence. And im also pretty positive that microsofts approach to the 720 so far hasn't attracted any new customers or caused any Sony gamers to switch brands. This is damaging. And this is coming from a genuine Xbox 360 fan.

Perjoss1133d ago

"There's buzz about the system, but no real quantifiable hype. At least on here"

Wait, you're surprised there is no hype for a non Sony product on N4G? are you new around here?

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TheTwelve1134d ago

Microsoft is seeing how it feels to get caught with their pants down.

Munky1133d ago

I think its more of a case of them having a plan from the beginning and them sticking to it.

JeffGUNZ1133d ago

Yeah I agree with Munky. It speaks volumes of MS that they are so confident in what they have that they were not intimidated or baited to reveal anything premature. They obviously are confident in the product and are sticking to their original plan. It's kind of obvious that both system will be out this fall, so I think people here need to relax and just wait. There are still so many questions for the next PS4 that weren't touch upon. E3 is where all the big stuff will be discussed.

Munky1133d ago

And to further prove my point, there is this:

http://majornelson.com/2013...

This was posted on Jan. 2nd, so it's pretty obvious that their intention all along was to reveal at E3 regardless of what Sony or any of their competitors was doing.

liquidhalos1133d ago

I think Microsoft has been caught with its pants down quite a few times lately. Windows Vista, Windows phone, Windows 8, Surface and now the next Xbox. Microsoft has completely lost the plot, they don't seem to understand what people want. Its more about what Microsoft thinks it can force people to want. Heck i made the mistake of getting a windows phone when they first came out, you couldn't even set your own custom ringtone for crying out loud! We only got that privilege in an update right at the end of my contract period. They are completely out of touch. I was burned with the phone they sold me, the last couple of years of the 360 haven't been that great, surely we can all agree on that. There is complete lack of trust now between consumers and Ms, this silence is doing nothing to help it

Ju1133d ago (Edited 1133d ago )

"plan form the beginning and them sticking to it."

...or a total inability to react in a flexible fashion to a changed environment (Sony's PS4 announcement). This is maybe normal for a mega corporation which usually are not known to be unable to react quickly. But in this industry, this can be fatal.

BTW: ^^ I am thinking of finally ditching Windows if they force Win8 on me. Really? Do I have to accept this totally ridiculous Metro interface? Same there. They want to consequently enforce a "one for all" interface; but it is sure not what people want.

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CGI-Quality1134d ago

Um, isn't that what Sony did on Feb 20th?

Drekken1134d ago

Well that would be what the DEVELOPERS CONFERENCE would be for... how does this guy have bubbles?

We all know Sony is making MS make some quick behind the scene changes that we will hear about soon enough. Who cares... PS4/PC all the way for me. I have no room for anything else.

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JeffGUNZ1133d ago

"we all know sony is making MS make soem quick behind the scene changes..." What the hell are you talking about? Did you ever think that perhaps MS has a set plan/event where they want to reveal and discuss their next system? Don't you also know that the systems are pretty much finalized, in development and studios have been working on games for the last 2-3 years? Typical Sony fanboy logic right there. Before we even heard about the 02/20/2013 Sony conference, MS started a site with a countdown to E3. It's so clear that MS plans to reveal at E3 and planned to do so prior to Sony even announcing their reveal. They still have the counter, check it out.

http://majornelson.com/2013...

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney1133d ago

They never show up at gdc cuz they are not so much about games anyway.

maddfoxx1133d ago (Edited 1133d ago )

Maybe they wont release a new consol this year and wait a year like with what Sony did with the PS3. Just be patient guys. . . remember what happened last time they rushed a consol. . .

I'd rather them take their time and release info when they're ready and not because fanboys are pressuring them to take part in some stupid consol war.

EasilyTheBest1133d ago

From a Business stand point I think Microsoft are doing the right thing.
Microsoft are deadly in business because they don't care how much money or how long it takes to win as long as they eventually do.
Microsoft can't be bargained with. They can't be reasoned with. They doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And they absolutely will not stop, ever, until you are dead.

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StrongMan1134d ago

Meanwhile, the rumors from leaked documents run wild. MS's silence is very telling.

Merrill1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

If their console blocks used games and always needs to be online they're probably trying to figure how the hell they're going to announce said features without the Internet asploding.

If they announce it too soon people will have too much time to dissect it and consider the PS4 instead. But the longer they take to announce it the more Sony benifits from no next gen publicity competition.

They have them self in quite the perdicament.

Godmars2901133d ago

My suspicion, my own rumor, is that XBox3 is going to be a glorified cable box. MS will work deals with cable companies to let them sell the console as part of a cable/internet a package deal. Lease them with locked in subscriptions for XBL.

If they are doing this it will likely give them a massive advantage among the casual market the Wii established. Possibly turn hardcore gamers into 2nd class citizens allowing for no used games and an always on connection though such would exclude anyone w/o internet access. With an inflated install base, most if not all who'd be paid subscribers, MS could afford to.

Waiting till E3, or even well after, would only be to their benefit.

OlgerO1134d ago

Microsoft is busy countering the PS4 features. they are pulling all nighters and readily applying the duct tape

ichimaru1134d ago

some part of me thinks your serious. that part of me pities you. all jokes aside you realise that ms is a multi-multi billion dollar company. they watch their competetors sure, but they have bigger things to do than to "counter" every Sony feature. thats not even a business mindset, "wait watch and counter"? their silence is interesting but without an official announcement its not damaging. I mean it's got you talking

wolokowoh1133d ago

@ichimaru I don't see how you got it was joke(therefore got the sarcasm of the second part) but failed to see both parts were obviously sarcastic. If Microsoft was still working on its design, the likelihood of it releasing this year would obviously be substantially lowered. Their silence isn't damaging to the reputation of the new Xbox as much as giving Sony a higher chance of taking the all initial sales.

darthv721134d ago

it is only telling you what you want to hear not what they want you to hear.

So its easy to assume anything from nothing. But they got you thanking about it. If that is their strategy....i'd say its working.

GalacticEmpire1134d ago (Edited 1134d ago )

You Xbox folk are getting desperate to prove that all publicity is good publicity, which anyone who isn't a rockstar will tell you is complete bulltosh.

There's such a thing as a bad reputation and if Ms let the rumour mill give them one it won't be all sunshine and rainbows, they won't magically be more awesome because of it.

The reality beyond MS tinted blinkers is that there's a lot of wild negative speculation surrounding the Xbox 3 and it needs to be addressed.

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Lifebanisher1133d ago

Meanwhile at microsoft's headquarters
- let's take off the always on Feature that we have
Microsoft Engineer - yes sir
- Dont forget to allow used games too
Microsoft Engineer - No problem!
-The Camera make sure it stays off even if it's on so that no one will notice.
Microsoft Engineer - ok...

Hurry before we reveal our console okay?

Microsoft Engineer's head explodes

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tinezedw1134d ago

Can't risk showing too much now cause then won't have much to show at e3.

cyberninja1134d ago

There's always E3, oh wait...