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American McGee Not Impressed With Sony PS4 And Believes SimCity Gamers Need To Relax

Forbes - Game industry veteran American McGee has been involved in some of the biggest shooter franchises of all time. These days, as head of Spicy Horse Games, he has been focusing on original mobile games designed for cross-platform gameplay. He made the news recently by asking his Facebook fans if they’d be interested in a new Alice 3 game – something gamers answered with an overwhelming yes. He’ll be meeting with Electronic Arts, which owns the Alice IP, at GDC 2013 to see if there might even be the potential for a third Alice interactive adventure.

McGee, who lives in Shanghai and has seen firsthand why DRM is important to fight piracy, addresses the still-burning controversy with a candid response. He also explains why he’s more excited about the exploding mobile gaming category than Sony’s PlayStation 4 and talks about going to hell in his brand new game in this exclusive interview. (American McGee, EA, Mobile, PC, PS4, SimCity, Sony, Tag Invalid)

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Snookies12  +   485d ago | Well said
... I do enjoy the Alice games, but seriously... This guy seems to have things really backwards.
Knight_Crawler  +   485d ago
Lets me guess your opinion is based on the fact that he was not impressed with the PS4.

Maybe his expectations were higher than your and he was expecting allot more but thats not to say that he thinks the PS4 is bad, just that he had higher expectation from Sony who has a reputation of being the best when it comes to technological achievements.

Edit: " I was hoping for innovation in control input. Didn’t see anything meaningful, so “meh.” It’s nice that they’re moving towards what looks like more developer-friendly hardware and indie friendly distribution. Remains to be seen if the appearance matches reality. Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally."

Where did he say that he was not impress by some of things from the PS4? He merely express that he was expecting certain things from next gen and was disappointed that he did not see them on the PS4.

Not everyone is comformasist and some people have bigger hopes and visions from technology than some - sure you might be happy with the PS4 but he is not and has his reasons.
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zerocrossing  +   485d ago | Well said
I wasn't exactly bowled over by the PS4 myself but you'd have to be stupid (or completely biased) not to be impressed by certain aspects, IMO.

Also, what about telling people to "Relax" over Simcity? That whole fiasco is an appalling mess! Gamers deserve to be as angry about it as they feel necessary after spending their hard earned cash on an unplayable game.

Im honestly not sure why you feel the need to defend the guy but you should probably save doing it for when it's justifiable.
Snookies12  +   485d ago | Well said
No, why are you assuming that's why I said that? I never mentioned the PS4. It's that he was in favor of restrictive DRMs and was more interested in mobile devices than consoles (not just PS4). That's why I think he's backwards.
NewMonday  +   485d ago | Well said
"he’s more excited about the exploding mobile gaming category"

tells you a lot about him, another over-hyped developer.
jony_dols  +   485d ago | Well said
If it was Gabe Newell or Ken Levine commenting on the PS4, then I'd take it seriously. But McGee is a failed console dev with a sub-standard portfolio & little relevance in the industry.

@Knight_Crawler: Trolling PS4 articles as per usual, huh? I wouldn't get my hopes up too much for the 720 hardware; if the more credible Durango leaks are to be believed, it is less powerful than Sony's console. So you're pretty much shooting yourself in the foot!
Hicken  +   485d ago
Comformasist? What?

No.

The guy is touting mobile games cuz that's what he's doing. It's not like he's speaking without bias; it's obvious that he is. And then he doesn't know any more about the PS4 than the rest of us here. Perhaps he's a little upset that Sony didn't come to him for advice?
morganfell  +   485d ago
I like the Alice games and think they are woefully underrated. I was playing the second one last week.

But do not mistake Synchronicity with true genius that perfoms over time and evolves.

The game industry is replete with persons who had one idea at the right place and time and the outcome was wonderful. But after that, well, little else.
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TemplarDante  +   485d ago
Knight_Crawler
You have 80 disagrees and counting.
Maybe, you're wrong :)
Eddie20101  +   485d ago
@Knight_Crawler

His comment was aimed at next generation consoles not just the PS4. Plus some people just have an agenda, much like many of the people commenting on this site.

Plus he spoke of a lot of things and the PS4 was a very small part of it, yet we get the tittle above just for hits.
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KillrateOmega  +   485d ago
@Knight_Crawler
Nearly every time that I see you, you're stirring things up and trolling. Don't you have anything more productive to do, man?

"... I do enjoy the Alice games, but seriously... This guy seems to have things really backwards."

He never even mentioned the PS4 at all. Honestly, how did you even arrive at such a conclusion (or more appropriately, assumption)?
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Old McGroin  +   485d ago
@ Eddie20101

"His comment was aimed at next generation consoles not just the PS4."

He was asked a direct question about the PS4 and he answered it:

"What are your thoughts on what Sony has shown with PS4?

I was hoping for innovation in control input. Didn’t see anything meaningful, so “meh.” It’s nice that they’re moving towards what looks like more developer-friendly hardware and indie friendly distribution. Remains to be seen if the appearance matches reality."
MysticStrummer  +   485d ago
"Lets me guess your opinion is based on the fact that he was not impressed with the PS4."

The same could be said about you, actually. The guy is focusing on mobile games, therefore he wants mobile gaming to continue doing well, therefore he'll downplay next gen consoles. His complaint about PS4 is that it offers little innovation in regards to control input. Of course he fails to expand on that in any way, so it's a pretty meaningless statement. Sony relied heavily on developer opinion while designing the PS4, so evidently many devs don't agree with him. Judging by industry reaction to the PS4 reveal, McGee is in the minority. Lastly, he says very little about PS4 at all, yet the headline implies differently. Another N4G special delivery.
Eddie20101  +   485d ago
@old McGroin

One question in the article, and he ended his statement speaking of consoles in general.

Don't just quote the part you like, quote the whole statement.

"I was hoping for innovation in control input. Didn’t see anything meaningful, so “meh.” It’s nice that they’re moving towards what looks like more developer-friendly hardware and indie friendly distribution. Remains to be seen if the appearance matches reality. Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally."

It was a very small reply to the question that ended with next gen consoles in general not doing well according to him.

This small statement was the one they decided to name the article by just to get hits.

Maybe flash cards would help you understand better?

What innovation in mobile games makes him excited ? The Touch screen(not that great), acceloerometer, having a a front camera, consoles have them. I don't see any innovation in control on mobile devices. All that has been around for quite a while.

Like I said, he has an agenda.
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andrewsqual  +   485d ago
Wow you would think that E3 has happened and the PS4 is out in a month the way you are doubting Sony.
NateCole  +   485d ago
"Maybe his expectations were higher than your and he was expecting allot more but thats not to say that he thinks the PS4 is bad, just that he had higher expectation from Sony who has a reputation of being the best when it comes to technological achievements"

lol! Like Sony did with the PS3?. Sony tried but they got burned by devs mostly PC devs because of it.

Cell is junk, Blu Ray is overkill. It cost too much blah blah blah.

Now that Sony have listened and made the PS4 more to their liking and will cost less they still are not happy.

BTW. He has got it backwards because console gaming is not going anywhere.
Gaming101  +   485d ago
Wow, really? There isn't a single serious developer who wasn't impressed by the enormous specs the PS4 delivers, and priced at likely around $500 it's an unbelievable bargain. The reason it won't have top of the line specs is because gamers cried the last time a console cost a measly $100 more than it historically cost on launch. If cost is that important to childish gamers, Sony cannot help but be backed into a corner with what specs it can deliver. You're lucky they bumped the GPU CPU combined RAM to 8GB rather than 4, I wouldn't expect something astronomical out of a $500 unit.
Dmarc  +   485d ago
Lmao I didnt even read the article and I just guessed that he was gonna be into the mobile gaming market.Those nuts seem to always think alike.
Dagobert  +   485d ago
TL;DR.

Try posting less crap bro. Just a friendly tip, that's all.
TheSaint  +   484d ago
What's a 'comformasist'?
Old McGroin  +   484d ago
@ Eddie20101

Maybe flash cards would help me understand? Ah, I see you've already been reported as Offensive, someone got there before me.

Like I said, he was asked a DIRECT question about the PS4, just because you don't like his DIRECT answer to the question asked about the PS4 it doesn't give you the right to go around insulting people. Deal with it.
Omni-Tool  +   484d ago
"innovation in control input" - I think he means touchscreen capabilities. With that said, he's an idiot. The PSVita will be the touchscreen for the PS3 with remote play as an added feature. There is a touchpad on the controller as well. What "innovation" is he looking for, augmented reality? The world isn't ready for AR to be just for a console. AR is best as eyewear with a mobile device and not for games but for information gathering and receiving.

Edit: I just realized that Knight_Crawler only has one bubble and he can't reply. I knew we were all trolls at heart.
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TomOfAllTrades  +   484d ago
Wow you have a-lot of dislikes, perhaps you should think before you comment?
zerocrossing  +   485d ago
It just seems like he said that to go against the grain... either that or he is really out of touch with the general gamer.
LostDjinn  +   485d ago
"I was hoping for innovation in control input. Didn’t see anything meaningful, so “meh.” It’s nice that they’re moving towards what looks like more developer-friendly hardware and indie friendly distribution. Remains to be seen if the appearance matches reality." - Does this mean he doesn't know anymore than the average Joe that watched the announcement? It seems to imply it.

"Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally." - Oh that's right. He makes mobile games.

Do the above statements make his opinion worthless? No.

Is it obvious he's promoting his medium (mobile casual games)? Absolutely.

He makes a living with casual games for a casual market. If you put these things in perspective it's usually easy to catch the reasons behind the statements.
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MikeMyers  +   485d ago
Fro the article;
"Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally."

Biased view since he is involved in mobile gaming right now. Yes he has experience in both fields but I think the two will continue to co-exist.

"People need to relax a little and stop turning everything into World War III – Gamers vs. The Man. There are no winners in that scenario."

That I agree with but that's the nature of the beast on the internet. Not everything works like it's supposed to. Learn from those mistakes, just don't keep making them. We seen all the headaches from Diablo III so fans do have a right to be upset with SimCity. They have to figure it out, how do you curb piracy while not hurting the real consumer?

"At present it just looks like another distribution channel with not much to differentiate from other outlets (aside from sheer horsepower)."

I hope he's wrong but he may be right. We will probably see the same gameplay, the same ip's all being upgraded. I want to see more innovation. Seems like the innovation now is multiple screens but I don't want gimmicks and I imagine most of those games will be gimmicks. Some may indeed work very well but chances are not many.
ILive  +   485d ago
You say "innovation." What innovations are you speaking of? What do people mean by this? I am not trying to be an asshole, but if you were to make a game, how would you innovate it, moving away from traditional play. People forget that potiental gamers are born everyday. All genres will always be fresh. Seriously, what do you want them to do to "innovate," while being grounded in reality? Maybe I am lacking in imagination here.
MikeMyers  +   485d ago
I guess I want to see more fresh ideas. This generation has been so crowded with shooters and sequels. I don't want the extra horsepower to just re-skin the same games.

I'm interested in what the new PS4 controller will provide. All this Share stuff could be interesting but I'd like to see more than just being able to take snapshots and videos that we can upload to Facebook.
darkride66  +   485d ago
I'll never understand why I should care about this guy. He worked on shooters when shooters were new 20 years ago and since then has released underwhelming, mediocre title after underwhelming, medicore title. You want to be relevant? How about you let your products do the talking.
jimbobwahey  +   485d ago
Surprise surprise, another anti-Sony article from Forbes.

It's getting to the point now where there's obviously a very clear agenda behind this.
HaVoK308  +   485d ago
His name is American, but he has surrounded himself with communism for the past decade. What do you expect?
Aaron Colas  +   485d ago
Opinions, fellas.

No need to tear the guy a new one just because he does not agree with most of us.
grimmweisse  +   485d ago
It's the Internet, people will tear people apartment regardless of the opinion.
Kurt Russell  +   484d ago
...or make porn of it.
kickerz  +   485d ago
Yeah I totally disagree with his comment about people are gonna choose either a powerful tablet or phone or console. Everyone has a phone, its a necessity, and I doubt phones/tablets will ever be a better gaming platform then a console.. iPhone/tablet games are fun when maybe at work for 5 mins but that's really it.I get bored of apps real quick.Soon as I get home it's console/pc for me. Way more fun/enjoyable. And I guess this would be the same for most gamers I think.
kenshiro100  +   485d ago
Hey look, its Knight Crawler on the attack yet again!
SilentNegotiator  +   485d ago
I might care if McGee had made any impressive games recently.
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MASTER_RAIDEN  +   485d ago
I think they had something good going with the first alice game. suddenly EA took over and madness returns was yet another unreal engine 3 clone. Everything looked (and kind of played) like every other UE3 game ive played. definitely more disappointed by the 2nd one personally. Im only a few achievements away from a plat though, so maybe ill revisit someday.

either way, i think its safe to say that american Mcgee has no place to talk. the mans made TWO total games which carried somewhat positive reception at best. How about you sit down with the tech and really sink your teeth into what you have in front of you before you comment?
showtimefolks  +   485d ago
I don't have to be impressed but I am excited abut the possibilities. It's not just about graphics it's about games and taking them to next level. Imagine all gams having no load times or walk into any building you see

We still don't know a lot so lets wait till E3. I believe Sony will blow the roof off the E3 this year.

Starts the conference on time, Sony is famous for staring late but their last announcement conference was in time

Jack tretton on stage, let m welcome everyone to our conference thanks for being here, we are not here to talk about sale numbers or any iter stuff we gonna show you what matters most and that's games and our 1st game has been in development for a while and it will launch day one on PS4

last Guardian on stage demo. Release date announced
Jack back on stage and here is SIG with Santa Monica showing a new IP
Here is MO demo for Killzome
Here is on stage demo for Infamous
We are happy to announce GTA5 and bioshock will come out on PS4
Show 2-4 new IP's
David Jaffe on stage shows of new IP
Gabr on stage talks about Left for dead franchise but wait he isn't here to announce that, here is on stage DEMO for HALF LIFE 3
We are rebooting a old IP in a getaway
Before we go here is one more game and we have bought the IP from Sega Shenmue. 1-2 will be in HD collection, 3rd in development

Jack back on stage welcomes KAZ and PS4 will retail for $349 and $399

Jack asks us if we had enough but than lights go out and here comes RockStar on stage showing live demo of Ageny

jack comes back thanks us for being here but lights go out again no here comes Kingdom Hearts 3

Right after before show end we want to leave you with this and shows FF13 Aversus on PS3 and PS4

Thank you for being here PS4 will launch on September 19th

KAZ back on stage and asks Jack isn't he forgetting something and lights go out and on Huge Screen PS3 will retail for $149 from today and will come with god of war collection

Thank you
RealtorMDandDC  +   484d ago
@Snookies12...agreed
He seems to be pushing his agenda....which it looks to be mobile and online games.
Kran  +   484d ago
Well he is American McGee. Most of his games are quite backwards xD
TAURUS-555  +   484d ago
not impressed ??...hahaha this guy mcgee is the biggest joke in history.
jagiii  +   485d ago
Interesting take on SimCity and DRM from a PC guy.
aliengmr  +   485d ago
What "take"? All he said was basically "can't we all just get along". Then started plugging his own projects.

Claiming that China is leading in the battle against piracy is a pretty bold claim, and he doesn't even back it up.
clintagious650  +   485d ago
American McGee?? Who the hell is this idiot? He must sucked as a game dev cause this is the 1st ive heard of him lol.
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xPhearR3dx  +   485d ago
You must have entered the gaming world this gen. Kids these days should do their research before spouting such silly comments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
majiebeast  +   485d ago | Well said
No gamer is gonna skip consoles/pc for mobile games.
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neoandrew  +   485d ago
Depends on the gamer, there are people that just don't like to play on pc/console in a AAA titles.

Casual gamers just play mobile games, they are simple, entertaining and fun.

No one should underestimate that.
KwietStorm  +   485d ago
And that's why many of "us" don't consider casual gamers to be "gamers." They're looked at as every day people who enjoy a little game here and there, and it doesn't matter where they get it. Casual and mobile games appeal to them because they're cheap, easy to pick up, and don't really require and other requisites. Most of them probably wouldn't consider themselves gamers in the same sense most of us do.
Godchild1020  +   485d ago
I enjoyed Alice Madness returns. I would love to see a third one and maybe a port to the Vita with Cross Save.
wallis  +   485d ago
This guy needs a slap.
zebramocha  +   485d ago
With a metal hand.
DatNJDom81  +   485d ago
*Enters Jaime Lannister* whoops.......
arronax-1  +   485d ago
Like this?
youtube.com/watch?v=D-rwAEANT gI
InMyOpinion  +   485d ago
American McGee is overrated. European and Pan-Asian McGee are much better imo.
wallis  +   485d ago
Haha! Love it.
Fishermenofwar  +   484d ago
LOLZ!
THC CELL   485d ago | Personal attack | show | Replies(1)
Why do game developers like him think that mobile gaming is the future? there is absolutely no way that they will be more relevant than consoles like the PS4.
SAE  +   485d ago
Only ignorants would say that about mobile games. Ps1 games are better then most of mobile games lol ..
puamdefokejpn  +   485d ago
All of them.

Would you say angry birds is better than Castlevania: Symphony of the Night? Im just rocking this on my Vita,..and it is so damn good,.. probably pisses on most games this gen also.
The Great Melon  +   485d ago
It's not about the mobile games being better than console games; rather, it's more about the amount money that can be made in the mobile sector. The mobile sector is something entirely new and still growing, so many are trying to capitalize on it.

A mobile gamer doesn't mean a converted console or PC gamer. They just happened to be a new member in the gamer family that otherwise would probably never thought about games if it weren't for their phone or tablet.
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Chrono  +   485d ago
Still in China?
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stuna1  +   485d ago
There is always going to be someone unimpressed, especially if they have something to gain or lose by the object their unimpressed by!
r21  +   485d ago
The title is misleading. He calls what was shown of the PS4 controller pretty 'meh' if i understood the article correctly. It does seem however that he likes the PS4's ability to be easily developed on.

He should wait though, who know what more Sony has in plans for the controller. So far its got better motion detection, a light bar, improved design and a touchpad.
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PSNintyGamer  +   485d ago
I not impressed either, all I see are gimmicks
ElitaStorm  +   485d ago
but i dont know what i see in u +_?
smashcrashbash  +   485d ago
*shrugs* not everyone has to be impressed with it. Most developers are and there is no way every single one will be.No need to cry over the ones who aren't aboard
SageHonor  +   485d ago
" No need to cry over the ones who aren't aboard "

too late lol
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Dannehkins  +   485d ago
I find his comments about SimCity out of touch. People paid good money to play a game that on launch had to have features disabled so that it could cope with the amount of people online.

The moment you start relaxing and just waiting for companies to get themselves into gear, the more likely it will happen again. Companies need this kind of kick up the backside.
Alos88  +   485d ago
" I was hoping for innovation in control input."
Really? After the hit and miss that is motion controls I'm actually relieved they decided to go with a normal controller.
Eyeco  +   485d ago
I'd say motion control was mostly a miss, in the end it was a different way of playing games NOT a better way of playing games.

For Example at best the wiimote just worked it was never amazing or mind blowing at best the controls just worked even still only a handful of games in the consoles entire library utilised it properly and even then it added hardly anything to the core experience.

I'm so sick of hearing the word innovation thrown about, innovation is great yes but it's also overrated based on the fact that it does NOT = BETTER.
HonestDragon  +   485d ago
While it is true that PC gamers that expect too much for a day one launch title, the same could be easily said for publishers and developers who expect that gamers would put up and shut up with potential problems. Sim City had a terrible week, but an even more frustrating span of lack of accessibility, server problems, disappearing cities, and lack of support. To even defend EA and their practices is asinine. They are up for Worst Company in America again.

"Being in China all I see are companies who have solved these issues and customers who are happy with the results."

So, you mean that that includes the companies over there that blatantly copyright infringe on Western companies' intellectual properties? It doesn't matter what name or spin they put on their license, those companies still rip things from Western and Japanese companies to amazingly high levels. Consumer support be damned even if they are happy at the expense of other people's hard work.

"Overall, I think this generation of consoles will struggle painfully against the momentum of mobile/online games we’re seeing globally."

No sane gamer would ever give up their current platforms for mobile gaming. Mobile gaming (much like 3D in movies) has just seen a temporary stride and nothing more. I wouldn't give up what I have now for a less than stellar game on my phone.

"It’s the evolution of interface that gets me most excited. Nothing will be able to compete with full immersion and seamless interface being powered by a processor stack in your pocket."

Still doesn't hold a candle to what we have now. Mobile gaming can be a good distraction, but has years to go before reaching handheld gaming greatness. I think that American McGee really needs to rethink his current strategies for the next generation.
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OmniSlashPT  +   485d ago
Yet another pseudo-industry 'rockstar' who thinks his opinion matter and everything which isnt done by him sucks. We have enough Molyneux, Cliff B and Adam Sessler headlining the news lol
rbluetank  +   485d ago
McGee, who lives in Shanghai! he belives in Shanghaism... lol he should keep making games. he has no real ideal how the ps4 will play out until he has hands on experence.
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aliengmr  +   485d ago
So Chinese developers have solved the problem of piracy? How?

I am also not surprised a mobile/social game developer thinks mobile games are the future.
mrmancs   485d ago | Trolling | show
simcitydrmfree  +   485d ago
Attitudes like this are threatening the health of the gaming industry. DRM free games are currently raking in millions of dollars (humblebundle for example). PS4 and SimCity seem to have something in common: lots of potential flushed down the toilet. Thieves will successfully steal software no matter what and game companies should not overspend on trying to stop them.
DivineAssault  +   485d ago
Not impressed with PS4 then they must despise the nx box if the leaked info is true about it
Derekvinyard13  +   485d ago
Lol
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Human Analog  +   485d ago
Besides the abysmal "Alice in wonderland" games, I couldn't name (without googling) any thing he has done. Let alone anything I would take his opinion on new hardware about.
Dante_007  +   485d ago
American Mcgee why don't you just shut up, this coming from same guy who said they were forced to trick consumers about alice in wonderland. when you make a amazing game then your allowed to make comments about the ps4 until then continue trying to suck up to EA so you can make A other alice game.
unicron7  +   485d ago
I have yet to see a mobile game and scream "I gotta have it." It lacks the overall quality of console games and the comfort of input. I do not see mobile gaming overtaking anything in the the near future. Also, the PS4 is leaps and bounds over it's predecessor. So in essence: This guy is wrong. I know it's his opinion and all...but he's still wrong. For a game developer he seems pretty out of touch with reality and the general gaming public.
ylwzx3  +   485d ago
Sim City players need to releax? Why? Releasing a bad POS is bad business period.
duli14  +   485d ago
he's just kissing ea's ass cause he needs the alice ip
hesido  +   484d ago
What duli14 said. This guy wants to make a new Alice game and is in talks with EA. He basically says (re-worded) 'No biggie! It's not important for you to be able to play the games you bought'
ylwzx3  +   485d ago
lol @ the disagree. EA fanboy.
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