Microsoft has slashed the price of its Xbox 360 in Europe: The high-end model is now less than Sony's PS3, and the basic model is almost half the cost of it is Sony rival. So Sony is going to have to follow suit, right?
not applying a price cut would hurt ps3. Yes things are in the favor right now but no falling asleep at the job. From rumors they are set to show off some fantastic looking games for their 2008/2009 line up. So sales will continue to rise. However due to their late start they need to accelerate past the X360 and move closer to the sales of the wii. With blu ray now the official winner, it should give sony the room to mass produce blu ray drives thus bringing their costs down. Also decreasing the size of the cell chip in ps3 should also drive costs down. Essentially everything is already set in place for them to drop the price. PSP and ps2 are still selling well providing sony the opportunity to sell their ps3's at a loss but still come out with a profit in their games division. GTA4 price cut is definetly the way to go. I am not sure how much of a system seller GTA4 will be for the X360 i feel it could be more of a system seller for the PS3 (but that's just my opinion) and sony needs to take advantage of this
What do you think, Sony Soldiers? Should your King cut the PS3's price and CRUSH those Nazisoft SLUGS once and for all? MWAH-HA-HA-HA!!!
NO price drop King! just hurry up with HOME, LBP, KZ2, and MGS4. I don't care if you raised the price for PS3, after that.
just please don't introduce any more SKU's, people for the most part are dumb and confused enough as it is about the PS3. You're doing fine.
There's a diffenrece though. No one wants that P.O.S 360 that is already WAYYYY cheaper and getting STOMPED. I feel bad for the XBOTS. What losers LMAO.
I don't care about the prices anymore. (important for some but not all} I just need better games and services from $ony
lol why would you care about the price if you already bought a ps3
prices are never going to be stable, so whats the point, the games the you play and service you get is what counts for us gamers, this fight between 360 and PS3 will never end...
For those last-gen gamers who are waiting for games like MGS4, FF13, FFv13, GTAIV.... This price cut does not change their stance.
Why would anyone seriously consider spending £300 on a PS3 with a demo. Only to have the lesser version of GTA4 available to them? Gamers will buy the £160 X360 and get the superior version of GTA4 available to them as well as a vastly superior software catologue.
I noticed you slipped GTAIV in there. Clearly, for GTA fans, Xbox 360 is the current gen console to buy. And, you can keep FF. Ive got Sakaguchi-san's Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and two more exclusives on the way, Eternal Sonata and Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery and Last Remnant. No Xbox 360 owner is weeping for lack of FF. It is FF in name only, it has nothing logically to do with FF I thru XII, Squeenix has lost the great talent behind it.
why not move into the open zone.
With a price cut, you always start appealing to a new type of crowd...At launch, the hardcore and the rich, and for every price drop, you get closer to middle class and eventually, the poor. So you're targeting a HUGE crowd...
the poor, and the cheap :D. haha. But i worked hard for my consoles.
Of course the "High End" 360 is less then the PS3.. what does it have to offer.. It doesnt have HD Movie or WIFI.. It should be less... but if you pay for Live and WIFI it still basically comes out to what the PS3 comes with Stock and free plus the ability to play Blu Ray... The 360 should be free now.. or they should do a package deal for whoever buys vista gets a 360 free...Im Not trying to be a SONY fanboy.. but seriously I dont see the advantage of the 360 at all and no 360 owner (even some of my friends) can come up with a good reason why the 360 is better.. besides "it has more games" and besides halo and bioshock the only games they play are Multiplatform like COD4.. Im prolly gonna get banned from gamer zone again for this too oh well.. Just trying to make a point..
You only list Halo 3 and Bioshock. Here are a few more that I can think of. Oblivion Gears Mass Effect GH2&3 Forza PGR
"And not only that, it pisses off die hard fans like myself! Seriously I'm not even thinking about buying a Playstation 4 or an Xbox 3! I feel ripped off by buying both of those machines early. I'll NEVER do that crap again! " Seriously, I won't buy any of those systems early. RRoD, price drops, new SKUs, etc might just make me wait a year before I buy a PS4 or Xbox 720.
The 360 price cut is a good headline grabber for Microsoft and will surely help sales if not just for the misinformed parents who just look at the price. When you examine things closer and add in the price of the HDD, wireless adaptor, LIVE subscription, play & charge kit etc its not as good a deal anymore. The 360 has a great line up of games there is no denying that but the discerning buyer will see through the price and realise they are not getting a whole lot for their money.
2 out of the 3 SKUs come WITH a HDD. And one is 3 times the size of the current PS3 one.
I'm well aware of the HDD's on the other console's as a former Premium 360 owner. Take that £199 Premium, add the wireless adaptor, XBOX Live subscription, play and charge kit and you're £10 over the PS3 yet still short of 20GB over the 40GB PS3 and a Blu-Ray player. Now take that Elite at £249.99 and add the play and charge kit, the wireless adaptor and XBOX Live subscription and you are well over £300 though you have an 80GB increase in memory but you can buy a 160GB 2.5" SATA drive from a high street retailer for less than the £60 difference in price and make even more of a saving buying online. Now of course both XBOX bundles come with a headset, allbeit a wired one but for £10 you can have a Bluetooth headset yet for the XBOX equivalent you need to spend a further £35. Should you have a Premium and decide that with the increase in download content and movies you need a bigger drive you are forced to pay £130 for the 120GB drive and yet for just over £100 you can buy a 320GB 2.5" SATA drive for the PS3.
would you mind telling me why you think that gta4 won't sell 360s, but will sell ps3s???? especially since the 360 has got CONFIRMED dlc coming for it aswell! are people that just want a GAMES CONSOLE, really gonna ignore a machine that's more than reasonably priced, has a far larger library of software, and has the game everybody wants (gta4) aswell, but with CONFIRMED dlc?? i don't think so. april is'nt going to be all rosy for sony at-all. just wait and see.
Most of that DLC your talkin about.. Comes stock on the PS3 version.. the reason 360 needed DLC is because they couldnt fit all the stuff on the standard dvd they develop on.. and know MS they will make you buy the DLC that is already stock and free on the PS3 version..
It's advertisement is on almost every 360 box, plus a bonus episode for the 360 version, both of these reasons are plane enough that ms has a great interest in the GTA franchise. as of now sony's big interest is i believe promoting MGS4 the most.
Got a source for that? Of course you don't. Because you're flat-out wrong. There will be two exclusive downloadable episodes for the 360. This is confirmed fact, by both Microsoft and Rockstar. You won't be getting them for the PS3 just because of Blu-ray. Get over it.
are you serious? i'm hoping your just well misinformed and not just in plain denial of the FACT that the 360 is getting TWO exclusive episodes of GTA4. April EGM had another article on GTA4 with the dev themselves saying how excited they were about the DLC only for 360, and have already gone on record saying if comsumers want to play the definitive complete version of GTA4, then they need a 360.
I like how you guys always talk about the DLC for GTA4 will be such a HUGE deal. No it isn't. do you know why? Because most people don't even finish the games to begin with. Iplayed the hell out of all the last generation of GTA's, but I only finished San Andreas. Most people play GTA just to run around kill people to get their wanted level up and see how long the can go before getting killed. Those people, may buy it for the 360, but probably won't buy the DLC. And please don't bring up the Crackdown DLC, because the reason the DLC worked for Crackdown is because there were only two or three things to do in the game, unlike in GTA.
The 3 GTA games from last gen are in the top 4 best selling games for ps2 games. So you saying everyone (as in MILLIONS) is like you and only like to run around in gta games EVEN though you already admitted you cleared SA? i'm not a big GTA fan, but obviously you are kid, and when the DLC comes out, your one of those sonyfanboys that will be on the sidelines wishing you could play more of a franchise you obviously love.
i'm talking about the dlc for grand theft auto, not the stuff that came with oblivion and rainbow six vegas. try not to spin it too much please!
PS3 doesn't need a price cut? Its got more stuff in it(i.e Blu-ray) & its selling well+Games,HOME are coming to;)
I'll join second life!
your right Sony shouldn't worry, they got what they wanted by winning the format war. but at the expense that they can not have the control over the gaming industry as far as leadership like in the past two gens. Even if you disagree, imagine if Sony didn't include blu-ray thus enabling it to have been released same time as the 360 at same price. I'm a 360 supporter, but even I know it would have killed the 360 because of the 120 million fan base. It would be at #1 right now with about close to 30 million in sales.
Sony *IS* giving a price-cut. It is called the "MGS4 Bundle". See, instead of giving you $50 off, they are going to buy their way onto the Best Sellers list for Konami and MGS4. Why on *earth* would Sony give away its most anticipated exclusive? Its certainly not because they are in a position of STRENGTH. Think again.
the main reason Sony is giving away its most anticipated title, MGS4, is because it counts as a sale, and Sony better show some decent sales for MGS4 to Konami.....because if they dont, you better beleive Konami is gonna make it in a port to 360 to make up for production costs and make a decent profit
Or maybe Sony has been paying attention to what people have been saying. That a lot of people have been holding out for MGS4. SO Sony does the smart thing and gives the consumer interested in MGS4 a break by including the game in with the console. Something Microsoft should have done with the Halo 360 SKU. Won't it be sad if, as it's rumored, the MGS4 bundle comes with a special edition PS3 with Snake on it? What will all the little fanboys say then?
why compare it to Halo? you just asking for abuse Halo doesn't need to be included in a bundle to make sure it sells.... it sold almost 8 MILLION already!!! Sony desperately NEEDS MGS4 to sell, because if Konami doens't recoup its production costs and make a decent profit, you better beleive it will get ported to 360, just as other MGS games have been ported last gen to Xbox and Gamecube. And judging by sales of the last MGS game that came out at about 3 million with a ps2 installed base of over 120 million, you better believe Sony can't take any chances and will give the game away just as long as it counts as a sale.
No need for price cut;) All that needs cuttting are xBots Slaves throats!!! ;-D PS3 is far SUPERIOR console!!! ;-P p.s i am 'Phil Harrison PS3' to! Can't believe i got banned 4 saying nothing on the 'Gamer Zone' bit!!! :-/
i still think japan might not see any interest in 360's price cut ,some thing like even more japanese support would help, the funny thing is that 360 Has more rpg's and less fps's than ps3 right now.
Microsoft is facing the world-famous Japanese nationalism and jingoism. This is not unexpected. They pride themselves on the success of their videogame culture, and resent the USA producers/brands. This should come as NO suprise to anyone even mildly familiar with the Japanese marketplace.
......jingoism? (jingo: person who professes his/her patriotism loudly and excessively, favoring vigilant preparedness for war and an aggressive foreign policy). Please, know what the word means before u try to use it to characterize a country that is almost opposite of what it means. I'm also pretty sure the resentment of the USA producers/brands is stretching the truth a lot. Additionally, I highly doubt that your even mildly familiar with the Japanese marketplace. So, don't try to sound like you know everything because its apparent you don't and it only further emphasizes your obvious devotions... In regards to the article, time will tell, because there is still some time left before the major games go on the market.
i am well aware of the affairs of the japanese public, it is to my understanding that japan holds a high respect of both nintendo and sony as they are both japanese companies. if the next PS was to be no stronger then the ps3, japan would still be backing it all the way, in which case i would hold nothing against them in this matter, having that kind of pride is some thing that is not worth taking or breaking.
find it funny, more games, more jrpgs on 360, but they still buy more ps3. And it's not because ps3 is more powerfull, look at the Wii succes. I nothing against routing for your own country, it just ashame that japanese are passing all these jprgs.
@12.1 What a load of nonsense, the 360 is failing in Japan because not only did Sony and Nintendo have a head start on Microsoft but Microsoft has been half-hearted about the Japanese release. Different regions have different tastes in games, we also share alot of tastes just like some comedy doesn't travel very well around the world. Sony and Nintendo understand this but Microsoft have done little to cater for the Japanese market and the consumers see this and vote with their wallets.
PS3 doesn't need a price cut as yet..it's selling fairly strong in EU ...and thats where the 360 is slowing dying..so M$ needed to cut the price in EU...even though sales will only spike for a few weeks then go back to where they are..now Sony should wait till MGS4 + GTA4 then cut the price of the PS3
Things are getting interesting. But since PS3 has Blu-Ray out of the box... kinda futile, I mean if they are trying to steal steam from their direct competition. Winning the format war has given Sony the upper hand overall, imo. With Hollywoods support and with the other big players involved, I have been seeing Disney, Lionsgate and other companies advertise their movies being available in Blu-Ray format AND that Blu-Ray can be found in a Playstation 3 game console. Big partners are actually helping advertise the PS3 for Sony as well as Sonys own effort. So this year we're going to see more people aware of Blu-Ray and that it is indeed inside of the Playstation 3.
I don't own a blu-ray player nor a PS3. Don't get me wrong, I want a blu-ray player. I'll wait 1 year or 2 and buy one for 100$ and thr number of titles will be bigger. I'm a hardcore gamer, Xbox360 is for me!
And that's what it is all about! Find the system that is right for you and enjoy it.
Sony am phale.
Microsoft am RROD.
I dont care about price cuts & Next Gen Wars. I already own both anyway. Just concentrate on the games please, both of you !
i only own ps3 actually 2 of them. Price cut doens't matter to me nows, i just want mgs 4, killzone 2, resistance 2, ff13 and gt5, and few other games.
Thank you sir. Bubble+ 4u2...
@Nostradamus 6.1 - 360 has more good games than that. You only list Halo 3 and Bioshock. Here are a few more that I can think of. Oblivion also on ps3 Gears- this one is nice Mass Effect- nice GH2&3 also on ps3 Forza- its okay but pgr has better graphics and GT5 will overtake this game sorry no pun intended. PGR those are some nice games yeah but so are these resistance: fall of man motorstorm F1 championship racing Heavenly sword Uncharted drakes fortune MLB 08 the show Ratchet and clank warhawk so again the ps3 has its share of games as well is just that the 360 might have a few more here and there and thats of course due to the install base and the one year gap as well.
@n4user1 4.2 - I noticed you slipped GTAIV in there. Clearly, for GTA fans, Xbox 360 is the current gen console to buy. And, you can keep FF. Ive got Sakaguchi-san's Blue Dragon, Lost Odyssey and two more exclusives on the way, Eternal Sonata and Tales of Vesperia, Infinite Undiscovery and Last Remnant. No Xbox 360 owner is weeping for lack of FF. It is FF in name only, it has nothing logically to do with FF I thru XII, Squeenix has lost the great talent behind it. okay okay let me start off by saying yes the 360 does have more rpg's than its predecessors but the ps3 just came out not too long ago and yes by next year they would have or equal the amount of rpgs the 360 has, wanna bet? oblivion- is both 360 n ps3 eternal sonata- that too is coming to a ps3 near you as well. last remnant is also heading to ps3 squarenix= a more likely ps3 to wii releases. so no surprise there. Ncsoft- is bringing some old and brand new ips exclusively to the ps3 beginning this fall. folklore- while isn't a big bang rpg is a well rounded experience at best. Untold legends dark warrior- this was just another launch rpg, so again just to add to the pile. Valkyria- are you kidding me? this is a full fledge japanese rpg at best. White knight chronicles- this is from the makers of rogue galaxy and we all know how good that game was so yeah. Disgaea 3- this game is basic enough and perhaps should be made for the ps2 instead but the developers are insisting that many changes are coming and that due to major upgrades the game wont be possible on the ps2 so instead to the ps3. so another Japaneses rpg. Star ocean 3 yes its coming to the ps3, and who knows it might even be an exclusive as well just have to wait and see. and of course the games you just mentioned, final fantasy 13 and versus 13. so claiming the 360 has or will have more rpg's than the ps3 at this point in time is just too early to say the least. i mean Ncsoft alone is dishing a slew of titles starting this fall and one of those being an MMORG called-Aion: Tower of Eternity not to mention (SOE) sony online entertainment are making ps3 versions of their current pc ips and newer ips specifically design for the ps3 as well. and yeah sure blue dragon and lost oddesy, might have been made by ONE of the original final fantasy 7 devs, but even he is only man and like kojima himself if he doesn't have a nice built team full of talent to back his work, than he would too grow old and tire. sqaurenix still has the majority of the original staff members and devs around plus they added enix's own as well so....... thats irrelevant at this point in time my friend. besides lost oddesy had a rather poor score from most reviewers, blu dragon on the other hand was exceptional. so please never compare any other rpg to a final fantasy game, is not the same, not the man power, not the resources or a talent by the numbers. its like comparing a regular FPS to halo, same thing here. like saints row to GTA is not the same. there's just a level of difference when it comes to quality and brand. the way i see things. GT series have no equal or match none, same with metal gear and GTA. none. so every time you or anyone makes a comment like this one, well this is what comes to my mind thats all, nothing personal. sure too human and fable 2 might rock socks off, but knowing sony oh too well and it being a japanese giant itself im more than confident that by the end of this year the ps3 will have a few note worthy rpgs up for grabs as well. and if it were all to be about sequels sony still would win in this area they just have more to their arsenal, why if they wanted to they could just do lazy work and start making more sequels of all their old franchises and believe me there are a few rpgs that make the cut of brand recognition for good and decent rpgs of all time, example of this are, rogue galaxy, wild arms, the legend of dragoon, dark cloud and a few others. this is something ms doesn't have. however i do appreciate ms's efforts this time around.
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