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Submitted by bullymangLer 736d ago | rumor

New Xbox Reportedly Won’t Let You Play (Unless It Can Spy On You)

“Once it has identified how many people are there–and even who is there–the device will charge for content accordingly. If you pay for one content license but then more viewers join the room, it could halt playback and request that you pay for a different license. That means if you plan to have a movie marathon sleepover, Microsoft would like to charge you extra copyright money for the pleasure of snuggling and watching horror movies.” (Microsoft, Xbox One)

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snake_eater  +   736d ago
Just point that thing to the wall or to your crotch, easy.
GamersRulz  +   736d ago
I hate when the media uses such deceiving headlines!
bullymangLer  +   736d ago
this ain't no NORMAL media, this some exposers of hidden truths . Just unplug it when not in use.
DragonKnight  +   736d ago
This is Alex Jones, not media. Nothing to see here folks.
BattleAxe  +   736d ago
Welp, I won't be touching the XBOX 720 with a 10 ft pole.
PSVita  +   736d ago
There's no way these rumors are all true. How can they block games when their competitor isn't. GameStop would not be ok with that and neither would gamers. Besides Walmart I can't think of another place in my county that even sells systems and games I'd be crazy to knock money out of the hand that feeds even though it is justified in many ways. The kinect thing is probably fake too because if kit broke your forced to buy another. Great for them but no one would go for this and they know that. Sony blocks some of there games and it turns me off but it the people's choice to buy it, so I don't have a problem with that but to say MS is block all used games is ridiculous. We won't know for sure until they tell us so worry about "ifs" and "but" yet.
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guitarded77  +   736d ago
LoL... Alex Jones. People who listen to him are "off the grid" anyway, so they don't have to worry about this.

He used to always be on the Dudley and Bob radio show in Austin before he got huge among conspiracy theorists, and he admitted that he sensationalizes just about everything to get more listeners.
Blacktric  +   736d ago
"There's no way these rumors are all true. How can they block games when their competitor isn't."

Online play over PSN was free from the get go while it's still paid on Live, along with access to some certain apps. Why are you so surprised that Microsoft might've decided to pull such move after seeing how many were willing to pay 60 dollars a year just to play online? Now, they'll gain extra cash by blocking the used market...
TheRealSpy  +   736d ago
I hate when commenters aren't actually replying to the previous comment, but rather just want their idiotic comment to get to the top.
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Dee_91  +   736d ago
infowars ...............

infowars....

really

dont get me wrong im a conspiracy theory dude.But most of the time infowars be reaching
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Blaze929  +   735d ago
articles like this, are just made out to mininform the masses. The damn thing hasnt even been announced, yet scare tactic words like "spy" are being used to describe the device.

and we all know damn well that's not what it's doing.
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Knight_Crawler  +   736d ago
The Xbox 720 is doomed -_-
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wishingW3L  +   736d ago
all the rumors are so negative!
InMyOpinion   736d ago | Offensive
TheRealSpy  +   736d ago
based on what? rumors? or your desperate desire to see Sony thrive?

neither of which are based in reality.
adorie  +   736d ago
Wall it is, then.
IAMERROR  +   736d ago | Well said
microsoft Illuminati
Insomnia_84  +   736d ago
lol good one let's spread that one around!! I like that one! lol
JsonHenry  +   736d ago
I love Alex Jones. For those of you that want to simply dismiss it as misleading then read the article he links to - http://www.vgleaks.com/dura...
Aomizuchi  +   735d ago
They dismiss is because they are still in a coma. By the time people actually wake up it will be too late for most.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   736d ago
lol perfect solution.
The_Infected  +   736d ago
What if it has to see someone in the room to work? Then you can't just point it at the ceiling or cover it up? =\
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JohnnyBadfinger  +   736d ago
Point it at a photo... Or draw a nice smiley face, like this :)
andrewsqual  +   735d ago
If it is getting to that stage why not just not fucking buy it?
Psn800  +   736d ago
To be honest who knows guys .
DarkHeroZX  +   735d ago
illuminati 720......makes perfect sense!!
Godmars290  +   736d ago
I wonder if this is even going to need spin.

@snake_eater:
What part of motion sensor do you not comprehend?

And for the defenders: MS is doing this for themselves. Whether it sends actual images or not, is just data, they're still talking about using it for advertising. Might use it the count people watching movies and charge extra.
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   736d ago
Listen up guys,

I don't find it too wrong for Microsoft to focus it's next console around Kinect. As you can see, the vast majority of their fans here don't seem to be bothered by it.

But if it's true that Kinect 2.0 will be required for the console to even function, then that's BS at the highest level. And no one in their right minds should be ok with this.

I'm typing on my laptop while taking a dump. I can't imagine how limiting it would be if my laptop required it's camera and microphone to always be on in order for me to use it.

Just imagine how invasive that would be. If the PS Vita's camera was required to always be on, I wouldn't have bought it. So it doens't matter if this was coming from Sony of Nintendo or whoever else.

If my cell phone's camera and mic were always on, I would never own one. It's simply too invasive and violates your privacy.

Imagine people with young boys and kids who will purchase the console. They have no idea who will be creeping and watching their kids on the other end of that thing. That's just grounds for all sort of problems for MS, and I don't think they've really thought this through.

God forbids if someone was to hack the next xbox and publish all the video data that Kinect 2.0 collects? The lawsuits and bad bublicity would kill the console.
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gamefiles  +   736d ago
"God forbids if someone was to hack the next xbox and publish all the video data that Kinect 2.0 collects? The lawsuits and bad bublicity would kill the console."

nniice!!
Monolith  +   736d ago
Cupid viper

You do see all the cameras watching you in the real world right? Do you think this is new? Finally people are seeing these sick ass holes!
OlgerO  +   736d ago
Alright people Im a big sony fanboy, but feel I need to clarify something. In the PS4 press conference mark cerny said that if ou stop playing the Ps4 it will enter a low power state. In other words it will also be always on. ( I dont think it will record you though ;p )
Godmars290  +   736d ago
"Always on" in the specific case refers to always on-line. The system wont play game - AT ALL - if it isn't connected to the internet. That is the point of concern.

And while its true that current consoles are technically always online, that neither the Xbox 360 nor PS3 are fully functional without internet, you can still play the majority of their games.

Of course the bigger issue with the PS4 - since Xbox3 already has the online online to worry about - is the camera its going to have. That may very well be required. If so I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only console "Fanboy" who would consider that an ultimate deal breaker - I FLAT OUT WONT BUY A PS4!

Companies have no right to dictate how we use their products on that level.
xXxSeTTriPxXx  +   735d ago
The ps3 does that now.
ALLWRONG  +   736d ago
Doesn't the PS4 come with a Kinect clone like device? So the same could be said about Sony spying on people.

Anyway, just another forum rumor started here on N4G.
a_bro  +   736d ago
It will.... Except its not "always connected"...
miDnIghtEr20C_SfF  +   735d ago
LMAO, the SDF sure got ALLWRONGs bubbles down to 1 fast. That was quick work!

Of course they're not playing their low rated exclusives that have been coming out lately, they're here putting bubbles down!

Hey yoOoooooooooooooo!
akaFullMetal  +   735d ago
Do you mean the pseye, or eyetoy from ps2, not a clone. Microsoft enhanced the concept of the eyetoy, and now the ps4 is as well. Everybody is taking away something good and making it better.

In this case for microsoft, maybe not so much.
ichimaru  +   735d ago
please explain to me like I'm five, why Microsoft would care how many people watch a movie. your realize they don't own the rights to movies being played and legally cannot charge, like the users games. Microsoft isn't really affected by the used games market, developers are. they would stand so little to gain its not worth mentioning in a board meeting
Godmars290  +   735d ago
If they can do something like count people watching TV and charge extra, it would probably be for special events. The Superbowl or the like. A base fee plus a 'discount' per person to encourage it.

But the real thing would be MS having the ability to track customer's likes. Actually, just like Sony will with the feature the PS4 will have to "predict" your likes and download content accordingly. A camera you can't turn off just makes it that more intrusive.

And for the hard of hearing fanboys who only focus on negatives about "their" console, I'm not saying that what Sony is doing is any better. That's why as bad as I consider this gen to be, as rushed and creatively bankrupt it was, the next is really starting to look worse. Intrusive with publishers concerned with retaining control of games they're suppose to be selling.
Lvl_up_gamer  +   735d ago
So are we still taking rumors as facts on this site? Who needs to spin rumors? It's a rumor so really no spinning would be needed since it hasn't been confirmed.
animegamingnerd  +   736d ago
every rumor i hear about the new xbox makes me less and less want to get it
Jek_Porkins  +   736d ago
Key word "rumor". Last year were you convinced the PS4 wouldn't play used games? That was the rumor at that time.

Funny how people pick and choose what they want to believe.
Whatever happened to waiting and seeing what the actual company itself has to say? People salivating with anger over rumors...and all I can do is laugh at them...I mean if it's on the internet it must be true! lol
Realplaya  +   736d ago
But didn't theysay it w used games?on't play
deadfrag  +   736d ago
No KEY WORD BAD RUMOR that m$ should have come a stop it already if is indeed not truth because its spreading!
animegamingnerd  +   736d ago
i still don't completely believe that the PS4 will play use games until i see it for myself
trenso1  +   736d ago
even with all the ps4 rumors i never believed for a second that they would block used games. I don't think MS is naive enough to do so either, but the difference between the ps4 rumors was that they had nothing to base it off besides one patent and eventually stopped. The 720 rumors have not stopped and for some reason more "information" keeps arising to further ruin their case that they are not blocking used games. Until they officially say something to me they aren't blocking used games.
lastofgen  +   736d ago
Shouldn't this be tagged as a rumor??
It's an unofficial screen, a screenshot that easily could have been produced on a computer.
PopRocks359  +   736d ago
It's Alex Jones. Frankly it should have been tagged as "cockamamie bullshit."
konnerbllb  +   736d ago
Who would approve an info wars article? For shame.
gamefiles  +   736d ago
You either didn't read the article or haven't seen the shocking vid contained within, or you work for "THEM" lol.
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JsonHenry  +   736d ago
For shame, Infowars only links to commonly trusted media sites such as Reuters, AP, and others. Read the link and stop burying your head in the sand - http://www.vgleaks.com/dura...
DragonKnight  +   736d ago
Infowars is the height of sensationalism and Alex Jones is a nutbag who is 2 seconds away from having an aneurysm.
kneon  +   736d ago
Yes they start with actual facts, then they totally misinterpret them and/or misunderstand them, add some wild speculation and convince the simple minded that the world is out to get them
Jek_Porkins  +   736d ago
lol
Gildarts  +   736d ago
This is obviously a flamebait. Dude how did this get approved. Shows how many PS fanboys are on this site.
kenshiro100  +   736d ago
Here we go with the conspiracy theories again...
Crazay  +   736d ago
***facepalm***

Conspiracy Theorists getting approved articles here now? Come on guys.
gamefiles  +   736d ago
Iou see the eye on the back of the dollar bill, what does that mean??
infowars? lmao

Everything is a conspiracy to them and then they try to sell you their products based on fear.
yesmynameissumo  +   736d ago
I find it interesting that some seem to think pointing it at a wall is the solution. Don't you think if the technology exists to perform a head count, the technology exists to know if it's pointed at a damn wall?

Also, I really doubt we'll see this in the next Xbox.
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GreenRanger  +   736d ago
@ yesmynameissumo
Just find a random family portrait on the internet, print it out, and point the Kinect at it.
Now you can be naked without the fear of Microsoft's perverted eyes.

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adorie  +   736d ago
Nice!
PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt  +   736d ago
PS4 is all we need anyway.. exclusives, games, great network, free, and more games
clintagious650  +   736d ago
The Media is really raining down on ms. I wonder if there is sum truth to it or just looking for hits. Im leaning more on the Media wants ms to dismiss the rumors if not true but what WORRIES me is why hasnt ms done that already. Surely they have seen all the negativity towards the rumors of their nextbox but they been quiet about it. Kind of makes u wonder.
ichimaru  +   735d ago
because unlike their competitors Microsoft has a strict . policy to not adress , rumors, its beneath them. ms employees have seen these thingies and probably laugh, but it's policy. heck they can't even acknowledge that a new console is being created. if asked about future generation titles they give the old " we are only focused on the 360, as fans can get enough of it" speel
theWB27  +   736d ago
I can't believe so many people are believing and jumping on things that most people know NOTHING about. You'd think Microsoft wasn't a succesful company and plan on alienating over half of their install base by requiring internet connection. I mean this is seriously idiotic to believe that. Will there be certain features that don't work without a connection? Yes, no doubt. But for them to say that you can't play our system unless your on the internet even though you can't get it in your area then tough luck...that's just a sell we are willing to lose.

That's wholly different from a game requiring connection..but a system they plan on selling for the next 10 years and they automatically cut millions of sells...cmon.
cyhm3112  +   736d ago
If microsoft really is going this, it would be very stupid
Gamer-Z  +   736d ago
omg enough with these rumors just show us the damn thing already
DragonKnight  +   736d ago
My source says that MS will do this because they aren't going for the core audience who would fight this, instead they are going for the casuals who don't know any better.

Everything I just said is 100% speculation, but I bet it's plausible isn't it?
Shadowstar  +   736d ago
Okay, what if... this is so that MS can stream you movies in the theatres? Ie, you can now watch a theatre movie in your home, so they'll charge you the kind of rates you would get in a theatre (well, hopefully a little lower, given that you probably don't have the sound system etc), which include per viewer pricing?
duli14  +   736d ago
is your house big enough to fit a 22ft screen? lol
Shadowstar  +   735d ago
I'm actually not too worried about that. I'd prefer to watch on my own screen than go out to a movie. Theaters usually suck, IMO-- there's all sorts of people you don't necessarily want to watch with, you can't pause the movie while you take a bathroom break, it's usually too cold, you're paying crazy money for sodas or popcorn or whatever, and listening to other people munch away whether or not you buy some... yeah. I'd rather watch new movies at home if I could. I usually wait until they're out on video right now.
Dlacy13g  +   736d ago
The garbage coming out these days is just awesome!
Belking  +   736d ago
Stay classy N4G.
Soldierone  +   736d ago
This patent was already posted here. Either the person thinks a lot like me, or they copied and pasted my article as well, but changed a few words to call it their own.... Talking about this specific paragraph and info about the patent. I was listed as an Alt source when the patent came about if you need to look it up.....
mamotte  +   736d ago
A friend of mine, who is actually the guy that cleans the windows in the bunker where the Durango is being created, told me the console have a slot for your credit card, so it'll take any payments it needs without asking you.
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Soldierone  +   735d ago
Nah, my friend that's a janitor at a branch of Microsoft stores said Bill Gates told him that Kinect2 will auto scan the room, with x ray like vision, and auto charge any credit card it finds for licenses to sit in front of Durango.
HappyWithOneBubble  +   736d ago
Microsoft is the Illuminati.
Legendary-Status  +   736d ago
They lost their right mind..wtf do i have to pay to cut my damn console on..ugh come on now..i sware PS4 is the way to go might cop a Wii U too...
BitbyDeath  +   736d ago
If there was a choice for the next xbox to spy on you or charge you for live which'd you pick?

I'm sure most would rather be spied on than have to pay extra money. See not that bad now is it?
4lc4pon3  +   736d ago
i just wont buy it at that rate. paying for live sucks and being spied on sucks also.
Morgue  +   736d ago
I'll just have my girlfriend start doing cam shows for MS Points and ask MS to credit me.
Bonerboy   736d ago | Offensive
Kingthrash360  +   736d ago
Guess its 720's turn.....but these are possibilitys sad sad possibilitys.
Morgue  +   736d ago
I can't wait for MS's reveal and I will lol if its the complete opposite of what all these articles are saying.

But if its true then oh well and who cares. They have their brainwashed consumers that are happy with what carrots they're teased with.
Zha1tan  +   736d ago
Ok there is a few conclusions drawn here from disputable evidence. If the article is true and you need the new xbox to be hooked up to the new kinect and it has a requirement to be always online then that is indeed disgusting and a great risk to personal privacy or at least allows the potential for a great invasion of privacy which is nothing good.

If information releases like this that is proven true then I will believe it 100% I think alex jones digs up some good evidence but he plays connect the dots with it far to much and makes to many assumptions.

Time will tell if durango needs to always be online and requires a kinect sensor but if this is true you will be damn sure I will not be getting one not because I believe big brother is watching but because there is definitely room for exploitation with that kind of technology.
Max-Zorin  +   736d ago
Lmao this site is too obsessed with rumors.
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