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FOX Engine Generated Joakim Mogren Would Crush Quantic Dream's PS4 Tech Demo

RipTen writes:

"If the CG rumor is proven true, the biggest shocker in all of this would be the foreshadowing which took place just a few weeks ago by an unsuspecting David Cage of Quantic Dreams while on stage at the PlayStation 4 reveal. Let's go back for a moment to this reveal in mid February and refresh everyone's memory.

David starts his presentation by saying that the one feature he wants the most in future hardware platforms is the ability to convey "emotion." He referred to it as the "holy grail of video game creators." Now, doesn't the holy grail sound like something Hideo Kojima might want a piece of?

Cage then shows us a brief demonstration of the new engine he and his team have developed running in real time on the PlayStation 4 hardware. During the demonstration he made the following comment:

"This is the quality we can get from our future games, and we know we can go even further..."

Well, how much of a lead would Kojima have in the race for realism on...

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Nostradavis1220d ago

Seriously how big of a win would this be for Kojima if he actually pulled something like this off.

guitarded771220d ago

We'll find out in a week. Get your shovels ready... the GDC conference hall is going to be knee deep in poop when everyone sees what Kojima has planned.

GrizzliS19871219d ago

Does noone think that maybe, just maybe, the interview was not in person, and that the reasoning behind it is because he was too busy making games to come meet up for an actual in-person interview? This to me seems like a conference call interview made believe to be in person for obvious reasons.

C-Thunder1219d ago

He's clearly fake. I'm pretty sure he's in the little flash to game play early in the video.

nypifisel1219d ago

I'm sorry but it's impossible. On the GPU Technology Conference nVidia showed how far they've gotten in simulating humans graphically. It's probably the nicest looking thing you've seen but just to do the face took 4 900 billion (!) flops per second in 60fps. That's half of the latest Titan GPUs computing power (that's the most powerful commercial GPU in the world).

See it here:
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

I'm excited for the Phantom Pain demonstration at GDC though!

crxss1219d ago

Joakim being CG is the most absurd thing I have heard today. Kojima is rofl'ing somewhere

LOL_WUT1219d ago

This a win-win situation for PlayStation gamers IMO

xursz1219d ago (Edited 1219d ago )

Just informing people - "Joakim" was wearing a microphone. It was an awkward interview but it's not CGI. Maybe they added a mic around his collar for added effect? I doubt it but anything is possible I suppose.

Even if it was new CGI tech it's not really comparable to QD's demo because that was said to be in-engine rendering (ie not CGI).

edit: also its nice to see QD has set the new standard to beat for photorealism rendering. I've always been a fan of their games.

sobekflakmonkey1219d ago

@nypifisel

The "Titan" is not the most powerful GPU in the world, the GTX690 is, the Titan is newer, but it's not as powerful as the GTX690, not to mention, two GTX680's are 1. - Cheaper, and 2. - more powerful than both the GTX690 and the Titan, I can tell from your comment that you know nothing about computers.

Also, the guy in that interview was not CG, if that was CG it would be beating out Hollywood CG, and quite frankly that's impossible.

Insomnia_841219d ago (Edited 1219d ago )

I love the way Kojima fu*^s with our minds every time lol you gotta love that man! A legend in video game history.

morganfell1219d ago

Typical Ripten. Some people may not remember a few years ago when they published a BS article here and then N4G posters went to their site and ripped them a new one. The writer and the site editor were attacking people openly left and right. I can see they have yet to mature their reporting.

mistertwoturbo1219d ago

^Sobek

The Titan IS the most powerful single GPU in the world. The GTX 690 is basically GTX680SLI.

BlindGuardian1219d ago

Allow me to spoil the fun but let me tell you what I'm pretty sure is up: digital make up

Remember the opening from xmen 3? Same thing here, with some Cgi over an actor's face they'll transition to in game stuff to make it look seamless but it will be a cheat, it will look great in the game but not as good as here but close enough

Mark my words

Ritsujun1219d ago

I am computer-generated.

puamdefokejpn1219d ago

@nypifisel ,.. I am sorry,.. but that real time quantic dream's demo of an old man,..

Just shits on what Nvidia has showed,.. It really does

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xHeavYx1219d ago

The title of this article is really stupid. Why not just say "New Fox engine really cool" or something like that, instead of attacking Quantic Dreams's engine.
"Dude, my d!ck is bigger than yours"

smashcrashbash1219d ago

Because that wouldn't cause the amount of chaos and attention they crave.The best way to get attention for your article to make us be at each others throats.

user76939581219d ago (Edited 1219d ago )

It's possible, PES14 look that good to.. idk how does look in motion,
but if that guy is real anyways, then he is a really good actor, and if is not, then we can tell eater way that this game will be amazing.. like every other game from KOJIMA i meant JOAKIM, sorry..

fr0sty1219d ago (Edited 1219d ago )

What a stupid article. First of all, there was no indication that the interviewee was CG given by Kojima, only mentions of realistic characters. Second, we've seen Fox engine. We've seen that it comes nowhere close to the Quantic Dream tech demo in realism.

We're approaching reality in-game folks, but don't get ahead of yourselves.

showtimefolks1219d ago

We will see and I like that tech will be pushed harder this gen so let's see

QD's next gen engine will be quite powerful since their current gen engine is awesome

That Kara demo was awesome

colonel1791219d ago

Wasn't Quantic Dream's demo real time?

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xPhearR3dx1220d ago

If Phantom Pain isn't a MGS game once everything is revealed at GDC, I'd be really surprised. It almost seems to obvious at this point where someone is going to pull a fast one.

wishingW3L1220d ago

yeah. The trailer had Volgin and Snake in it and don't tell me that those aren't them because they look the same!

Onehandband1t1220d ago

Don't forget Psycho Mantis as well ;)

Mouktouk1220d ago

It's probably a Metal Gear game, but I hope it's a spin-off and not a part of Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes (even though I wouldn't mind if it was).

The Phantom Pain really looks awesome, I wish it has its own game along Metal Gear Solid: Ground Zeroes (so we can double the awesomeness).

Batzi1219d ago

Kojima already confirmed he is behind the Phantom Pain. Check his tweets.

mrmancs1220d ago

if it is cg rendered on ps4 then nvidia tech demo just got owned lol.

ginsunuva1219d ago

CG =/= real time. You just failed.

papashango1219d ago

Ginsunuva presents a very logical reply. But based off his disagrees vs mrmancs agrees. We can see N4G users operate based on wishful thinking rather than logic.

jacksheen00001219d ago (Edited 1219d ago )

@mrmancs

I believe the cg rendered on the PS4 was real because if you listen closely to the demo, you'll notice how the atmospheric background noise changes in sound as it cut back and forth during the interview.

This means there are two separate footage that was pieced together to make this demo.

So that leaves me to believe each footage were done at different times.

My_Name_BTW_Is_Dante1220d ago

People actually believe he was CG? lol

I wonder if those same people think all outside life is CG too. A multiplatform engine will not have better visuals compared to what Quantic Dream has.

ANIALATOR1361220d ago (Edited 1220d ago )

QD tech demo could have been rushed and a quick representation seeing as their focus is on Beyond Two Souls right now so its entirely possible we can see much better but I still don't believe Joakim Mogren is a computer model

a_squirrel1219d ago (Edited 1219d ago )

The old man face had more to do with realistic human face characteristics, like, how the skin stretches. Being able to have a model's face to move around realistically is different than just making the face look real.

Realistic movement helps capture emotion that video game character's faces usually lack.

loulou1219d ago

please tell us why that is then???

why is it impossible for a multiplat engine to outperform a first party one??

oh i forgot, that on n4g, anything that comes from sony is the best in the world..

DivineAssault 1219d ago

multiplat engines are universal thats why.. They arent built to use every ounce of power from the systems abilities because it has to use the same codes on all other consoles..

If PS4 for example has more GPU power, exclusive engines will use all that up while minimizing CPU tasks n vice versa.. A multiplat engine will have to find a medium that can be used across all the systems.. QD may put out an engine using that 8GB GDDR5 thats impossible to be achieved on other consoles..

loulou1219d ago

hmmm. but what about frosbite and the cryengine? these engines are far above any first party engine. R*s RAGE engine slaughters the first party engines used for infamous and crakdown in openworld.

also, since when has ram been the most important component in consoles and pcs??????

Minato-Namikaze1219d ago

Crysis get killzoned everytime. On PC they may be better engines, but on Consoles GOW, Killzone, and Uncharted are undisputed graphics kings.

Rainstorm811219d ago (Edited 1219d ago )

I agree loulou

Rockstars RAGE engine is easily the best open world engine to date.

But on consoles CRYTEK and Frostbite doesn't have the same fidelity as GG Killzone engine.... KZ3 MP is an example of this its easily the best looking console MP FPS to date

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