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Project Cars Wii U Runs at 720p 30fps, Will ‘Look & Feel Amazing’

NowGamer: The Wii U version of Project Cars, the hotly anticipated sim racer come graphical showcase, will run at 720p, 30fps on Nintendo’s newest machine. (Nintendo, Wii U)

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SlavisH2  +   549d ago | Well said
wow that seems like ps360 software specs?
jcnba28  +   549d ago
Sorry to break it to you but most next gen games will be running at 720p 30fps.
jimbobwahey  +   549d ago | Well said
Hahahaha, no.
Erudito87  +   549d ago
i seriously doubt that
MasterCornholio  +   549d ago
Um tons of games that they shown for the PS4 ran in 1080P.

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ThatEnglishDude  +   549d ago
@MasterCornholio

There are some current gen PS3 games that run at 1080p (Gran Turismo 5 for example)

What's your point?
LOL_WUT  +   549d ago
Wow 720p and 30fps on the Wii U? Damn, I wonder how much these developers could've pushed out of the Wii U if it were an exclusive because thats pretty disappointing. ;)
turnerdc  +   549d ago
@ThatEnglishDude

GT5 isn't 1080p.

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"The game still renders at native 720p with 4x multi-sampling anti-aliasing (MSAA) when your XMB is set to 720p mode, while the resolution shifts to 1280x1080 with 2x quincunx (QAA) when the 1080p mode is engaged. So we're not seeing anything like native 1080p resolution here, but you are getting a 50 per cent increase in the number of pixels rendered."

The 1080p standard implies a resolution of 1920x1080p.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
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Grap  +   549d ago
game cars with 30FPS..lame
N0S3LFESTEEM  +   549d ago
Everyones disagreeing with you like they know for sure :p... I see them rushing to 1080p at launch then slowly lowering the res over it's lifespan. It's very possible they'll default to 720p depending on how well their processors can keep up. I'd take 720p/60fps over 1080p/30fps... having a smooth experience and snappy responses is the better choice. Realistically it'll probably fall somewhere between 720p and 1080p.
720p no.. 30fps yes.. Like killzone.
adorie  +   549d ago
1080p @ 30fps. Calling it. Once they learn how to properly harness next gen consoles, I'm also going to say they will be able to get more than 30FPS. Call me an optimist.
ajax17  +   549d ago
troll-lo-lo-lolling gets you nowhere on N4G

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Blackdeath_663  +   549d ago
stupid comment is stupid. current games run at 720p 30fps so any game still running at that can hardly be called next gen.
irepbtown  +   549d ago
Wipeout HD: 1080p 60fps if I remember correctly.

I have no clue myself what next gen will be like. But whatever it is, I'm sure it will be awesome.

More On-topic: This is great to hear, though I don't have a Wii U myself (yet). Considering the Wii U only being out several months now and news like this cropping up, imagine 2-3 years down the line...
cleverusername  +   549d ago
You should put your powers to better use, like winning the lottery, betting etc. You could be rich!!!
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AsimLeonheart  +   548d ago
Werent the Nintendo fans the first to claim that Wii U will be the first console to produce native 1080p @60FPS games and thus will be vastly superior to PS360? What happened to that claim? You guys have backpedaled now and accepting 720p @30FPS as a standard?
Most people do not understand that games will never be 1080p and 60FPS until developers choose to make them. If they want to maintain 1080p and 60FPS then they will have to sacrifice some visuals to free some processing power but developers choose better visuals over smoother frame rate and higher resolution. It is ALWAYS a trade-off between visuals and FPS/resolution. The developers choose which way to go. It is simple as that and is not onyl a matter of power of the hardware.
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360ICE  +   548d ago
Very likely, yes. A lot of release games for the PS3 ran 1080p 60fps, but when they're starting to push the system graphically they'll probably lower it.
fr0sty  +   548d ago
The Wii U is a PS3 with a slightly more powerful GPU, but that is bottlenecked by a terribly slow CPU. This is why, though the GPU is capable of rendering things the PS3 or 360 cannot, most of the games still do not run much better than the current gen consoles. Your system is only as fast as it's slowest part, and in this case it's Wii U's CPU that is holding it back from being what most would consider a true "next gen" system.
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   548d ago
It's basically a port because I'm willing to bet money it isn't the lead platform.
vulcanproject  +   548d ago
If by most 'next gen' games you mean Wii U ones, then yeah, they'll all end up 720p and 30FPS for the most part.

As for PS4 likely between 1600 x 900 and 1920 x 1080 and 30FPS in most cases.

Nextbox is a bit of a mystery, but in honesty I can see it actually aiming for 720p+ variable.

If the hardware is what the leaks say it is, it'll probably be able to do the same sort of visuals as PS4, but only in a lower resolution, like 720p or the aforementioned 1600 x 900- interestingly this in my opinion would probably be a good choice for microsoft if they aimed for 1600 x 900 and had a good upscaler.

I think this is actually quite possible and likely to be aimed at with the GPU and memory speed that leaks suggest they have chosen.

So a multiplat game could look extremely similar on nextbox to PS4, but be at a lower resolution natively if the console's GPU is 30 odd percent slower with under half the memory bandwidth.

1600 x 900 is something like 70 percent of the rez of full 1080p and still a good boost over this gen, with good hardware upscaling and anti aliasing the difference in image quality would be rather negligable on most console gamers setups i.e HDTVs from a distance.
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Deku-Johnny  +   548d ago
jcnba28 is correct. You can tell by the amount of disagrees on his comment how many Sony fanboys are on this thread.
ethomaz  +   548d ago
@turnerdc

1080p means only 1080 lines... it is the vertical resolution only... so 1920x1080p is 1080p like 1280x1080p too... even 640x1080p is native 1080p.

GT5 runs in native 1080p.
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porkChop  +   548d ago
@jcnba28

So far every single PS4 game runs in 1080p at 30fps, while every Wii U game runs in 720p at 30fps. Just because the Wii U doesn't have the power to run games past current gen standards doesn't mean that the standards won't change on the real next gen consoles.
xursz  +   548d ago
@Deku

His comment has nothing to do with sony. -_-'

720p at 30fps is the standard THIS GEN. It's normal to expect that to raise. 1080p at 30fps / 720p at 60fps I expect will probably be the new standard.
NeXXXuS  +   548d ago
you must be new here
yabhero  +   548d ago
Okay let me clarify for people. Most high graphical games on PS3 actually run at like 540p at 24-29 FPS. Then are up scaled to 720p at still run at under 30 FPS with constant drops to like 22 FPS which is noticeable. Check out BF3 and whatnot. Games like WipeOut are exclusives which means they have developers who are expert with hardware. A game like "Zelda HD" on WiiU could easily run at NATIVE 720p 60FPS or NATIVE 1080p 30 FPS. Native HD which means a better quality image. I also get the impression that this game could run in 1080p but then what other effects to be maintained.
Ju  +   548d ago
LOL, Vulcan. 1600x900. Where did you pull that from? KZ SF ran 1080p with 30fps without a sweat and did not dip once (!) below 30fps (check the Eurogamer tech analysis in full HD!). I'd rather say there is headroom. All games where 1080. If they aren't Sony won't make a sell, I can guarantee you that. I rather think, it would easily run BF3 in 1080@60fps - the current gen game. BTW: I guarantee you a PS4 would run GT5 or Wipeout in full 1080p @ 60Fps stereoscopic! (e.g. the PS3 version with higher geometry but not much more changed) LOL ;)

It rather looks like those guys have troubles to even get the 720p@30fps from the WiiU. Looks to me that's quite a challenge for most devs on the platform. More is just not possible on the WiiU - if you want to match the PS360 visuals. What they can do is, using higher texture res because of the 1GB. But this doesn't help with lighting or physics.
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Tito08  +   548d ago
I think he meant to say current-gen, he's right anyways.

@ WiiUsauce, I think you hold the title of the biggest idiot & hypocrite very well, having your username after the Wii U states the obvious, btw, nobody mentioned Killzone, you did, & it's too soon to come up with conclusions on a game which isn't even finalized, and will be on a completely new generation console which will definitely, along with the new Xbox, crush the Wii U.
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badz149  +   548d ago
720p 30fps? what is this? 2008? Project Cars is a sim game like GT and Forza, right? not arcade like NFS or GRID, right? shouldn't it be better to have 60fps? isn't the Wii U supposed to be "next gen" or something?
JasonXS12  +   548d ago
Most if not all games this gen practically run at 720p 60fps. Sacrificing that 1080p for the 60fps.
This gen didn't standardise 1080p 60fps but next gen definitely will.
Neko_Mega  +   548d ago
You mean most Wii U games will? Seeing how alot of next gen consoles from Sony and Microsoft are aim at 1080p.
turnerdc  +   548d ago
@ethomaz

The use of the term "1080p" is meant to refer to a resolution of 1920x1080p. Just like 720p refers to a resolution of 1280x720p. Yes, GT5 runs with a vertical resolution of 1080 but it does not match the horizontal resolution. Look up any standard that refers to 1080p and it will give a resolution of 1920x1080p.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

"1080p - 1920×1080p: 2,073,600 pixels (approximately 2.1 megapixels) per frame"

http://hometheater.about.co...

"Definition: 1080p represents 1,920 pixels displayed across a screen horizontally and 1,080 pixels down a screen vertically."

http://www.pcmag.com/encycl...

"1080p

Refers to the 1920x1080 "progressive scan" HDTV format. Also called "Full HD" "True HD" and "Ultra HD," 1080p provides the highest resolution in the HDTV standard."

http://geekdictionary.compu...

"1080p

Definition: A display mode for HDTV's, with a resolution of 1920x1080. The 'P' stands for progressive scan, where each horizontal line of a picture is drawn at every refresh. A successor to 1080i (interlaced), which draws every other line alternatively."

http://www.mobileburn.com/d...

"1080p is an HD standard that defines a screen resolution of 1920 x 1080 pixels."

http://encyclopedia2.thefre...

"1080p
Refers to the 1920x1080 "progressive scan" HDTV format. Also called "Full HD" "True HD" and "Ultra HD," 1080p provides the highest resolution in the HDTV standard."

I understand your argument but anything that references the term 1080p is referring to a resolution of 1920x1080p. GT5 is NOT 1080p, even the article I linked in my original comment stated that GT5 is not 1080p.
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MASTER_RAIDEN  +   548d ago
30fps is just a development technique that outputs smoother gameplay. so yeah, your right that a lot of ps4 and 720 games will be 30fps, but your points still invalid.
the disappointment doesnt stem from the fact that the game runs at 30fps. it comes from the fact that those specs are usually ps3/360 minimum. I can almost guarantee you we have seen what "project cars" on wii u has to offer from years-old ps3/360 racers. (im GUESSING) Project cars will probably be nothing special by comparison.
what separates 720 and ps4 from the bunch is that with the tired specs of 720p and 30fps, those consoles will be outputting graphics that you and i could hardly imagine.
CalvinKlein  +   548d ago
NO console gen will have a set number of FPS or resolution. Maybe some would have set resolution but now-a-days we see tons of games with various resolutions, but especially frame rate will not be set ever. Why would anyone think resolution or especially Frame rate would be set at 1080P and 60fps?
Ju  +   548d ago
All this discussion about GT5 @ 1080p. Dooh. Even their lowest 1080 implementation is 50% more pixels than this; and still runs 60fps. The 720p 4x MSAA mode is comparable to this Project Cars. This is full 1280x720 @ 30fps and 4xMSAA (HW) enabled with some people say isn't possible on the PS3. But this engine pushes boundaries on the PS3, no doubt. These devs have yet to match this. Don't even know why we discuss this. It's 5 years later!
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DeadlyFire  +   548d ago
No my friend. Most next gen games will be running 1080 @ 30-60 fps or 720@60 fps. WiiU gets 720@30 fps regardless.
Gamer1982  +   548d ago
I still have no faith it will look better than the exclusives of Forza and GT as its not an exclusive so wont use the consoles to their full extent.
CEOSteveBallmer  +   548d ago
ahhhh NO.. How did you know next gen wont be using 1080p?? Who told you that? Microsoft? Sony? Nintendo? are you the hardware maker? developer?. Then whats the use of creating a ps4 or xbox 720 if its just basically will use the same resolution?? smartphones are now using 1920x1080. you sir are just a nintendo fanboy who is bitter that Wii U is just a slightly better ps3/xbox360
Smashbro29  +   548d ago
God I hope not. 1080p at 60fps needs to become standard.
TopDudeMan  +   548d ago
Okay now people, lets all first distinguish the difference between running at 1080p and playing the game on a 1080p TV before we make asses of ourselves.
SkullBlade169  +   548d ago
Not on my PC they won't be.
vulcanproject  +   548d ago
Do you not know anything Ju?

Developers have been stealing pixels all this entire generation. If because new hardware arrives you suddenly think that will end and everything will be natively 1920 x 1080 then you are sorely mistaken.

Remember how everything this gen was gonna be at least 720P with a bunch of AA? Man Microsoft didn't half bang on about it, and right on launch they had sub HD games! FACEPALM!

Devs will still steal pixels, if they aim for a higher framerate for example a 60FPS shooter or racer or effects that are still very costly, they could and would easily steal pixels here and there and have the image upscaled.

1600 x 900 makes sense because its an easy 16:9 widescreen resolution and simple to upscale....It was merely an example however. The day a PS4 game arrives that is not natively 1920 x 1080 I'll point it out to you, but I am willing to bet it won't take much longer than launch day to find one...

Killzone can't be anything less than 1920 x 1080 because it is EXPECTED to be a technical tour de force and guaranteed to be dissected for tech analysis. Not every dev is going to bother in that same manner because they aren't likely to get as much scrutiny or care about it- nor have such a no doubt huge programming budget....

Seriously Ju I worry for you sometimes if you pretend to have all this knowledge and don't understand basic concepts.

If sony were going to guarantee that EVERY PS4 game was going to be 1920 x 1080 natively they would sing it from the rooftops. They would shout it loud as a great PR move.

The fact they haven't says enough. I am sure most titles with be 1920 x 1080 but I am also very sure many many of them will not.

Be realistic people, don't start floating off into pipedreamland.
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solid_warlord  +   549d ago
Consoles have been able to do 720p 30fps for about 8 years now
falcon79  +   548d ago
Try reading it they say if they use Native 720p then the graphics and physics can be much better,and they say 30fps is on all console versions.

This game will have amazing gameplay plus it will have graphics equal to high end pc,720p Native with the graphics wiiu will have is NEXTGEN guys.

Considering these graphics are the best any NEXTGEN console will have for like 2 years easy i'm pleased no ps4 game will surpass this wiiu game in the near future,and asking a game to run at 60fps in these graphics is asking way too much,maybe when devs get to grips with the tech some more than 60fps will be possible easy,Fifa on 360 was 30fps at first then it got better graphics and 60fps ???
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Ck1x  +   548d ago
Actually most games this Gen aren't even running in native 720p on current consoles!
Ck1x  +   548d ago
Not to mention that people think all Nex-gen games will be native 1080p are delusional... Developers in the future will continue to sacrifice the higher resolutions to provide more content and details on screen at one given time.
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DeadlyFire  +   548d ago
Most high spec games on PS3/X360 actually use less than 720p.
bullymangLer  +   549d ago
read some of the comments here and haa ha haaa . . so now 720p and 30fps is BAD? Nyeah okaiy
SilentNegotiator  +   548d ago
That's like saying "LOL, so now 480p is bad?" in 2006.
SilentNegotiator  +   548d ago
Bully's PM: "so which 720p 30fps video games are >BAD< ?? ?? ? ?? " (I guess s/he's out of bubbles)

Stop pretending like 720p isn't outdated at this point. Just because games at outdated resolutions aren't necessarily bad, doesn't mean I want to keep playing new releases at 720p for 5 more years.
gamefiles  +   548d ago
(Silentnegotiator)

lol, you dont get it do you?

Why do you think that games that run at 30fps or 720p look or perform outdated?

Besides when it comes to videoGames, CONTROLS/GAMEPLAY matter most no?

How do I sound if i say that MadWorld for the Wii, favoring a low resolution input running at 30fps looks outdated?? That's right, i sound like a lost pup.

Its going to take more than JUST 1o80p to make a game LOOK outstanding. Maybe skill?

Anyway, I hope they do great things with the gamepaD.
Derekvinyard13  +   549d ago
Lmao
ziggurcat  +   548d ago
"wow that seems like ps360 software specs?"

because the wii U isn't next gen tech, it's current gen tech... or rather, *slightly* better than current gen...
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BrianC6234  +   548d ago
GT5 is 1080p though. They must be too lazy to use the Wii U. It isn't a real next gen console but it should be able to run at 1080p at least.
ambientFLIER  +   548d ago
No, GT5 is not full 1080p. It's something like 1280x1080p.
NatureOfLogic  +   548d ago
@ ambientFLIER

Where in his comment does he say GT5 is "full" 1080p. No matter how hard you spin it or people disagree with him he's still correct. GT5 is 1080p, not full 1080p but still 1080p.
showtimefolks  +   548d ago
Ok so we are not suppose to be graphics whores but everyone comments is making the whole gaming seems like its all about graphics

720P and locked 30 frames per seconds is good as long as game is great. Seriously

And that's coming from a long time playstation fan. Excited aut ps4 and hope it can do full1080p with 60fps but if it doesn't than my experience won't be any less with a game. It's hard to tell difference between 720P and 1080P. That's just t opinion

As long as game is fun to play that's what matters more than graphics
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   548d ago
The Word is "NATIVE"
AKR  +   548d ago
Um . . . No. Just no, good sir.

- Slightly Mad has CHOSEN to take this route. That isn't to say that this is all the Wii U can do at this point. If Criterion can successfully port over the PC version of Need for Speed Most Wanted, with enhanced textures, improved lighting, and draw distance - on a PORT - then I'm sure they can really use the tech in a game built from the ground up.

Even so, they did say that this was the set-up for ALL the consoles they're developing the game on, so it's not like it's only the Wii U that's getting this treatment.

This is one studio. There are still other devs out there who can use the tech in a more - "acceptable" - way, like 60fps@720p or 30fps@1080p. Either way, the game still looks amazing, so I truly don't care.
Ju  +   548d ago
They did not port the PC version. Read their interview again. It's a PS360 version with PC textures. But it runs PS3 geometry. Nothing is improved over the current generation but the texture resolutions and they had troubles in the beginning to reach the framerate target. The texture resolution has no impact on the framerate - memory has. Framerate depends on bandwidth and the WiiU doesn't have enough. Pure and simple.
R00bot  +   548d ago
They said that they aimed for 30fps 720p on all consoles because then they could tailor other graphical aspects of the wii u version and make the physics better.
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nintendoland  +   548d ago
your sentence doesn't make any sense. So you think it's the same thing if project cars runs at 720p 30fps and GTA Vice City running at 720p and 30fps? All those who agree. Man.. Their IQ must be below zero
The_Infected  +   549d ago
720p and 30fps is something to brag about. Now if it was 1080p and possible 60fps that would be something to say awesome about.
jay2  +   549d ago
Not suprised at all
SandWitch  +   549d ago
Pretty disappointing, I would have expected at least either 1080p @ 30fps or 720p @ 60fps
falcon79  +   548d ago
U would expect it would u,720p Native with better graphics is what there saying ??? 1080p/60fps will be possible in a few years,look at fifa that doubled in fps and the graphics got alot better ???

I remember saying NFS will have better graphics look at that,this version their implying will look like their best version but at 720p Native,30fps is what all versions run at.
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Venox2008  +   549d ago
for me its better 720p 30fps with better visuals, than 1080p with lower.. I reckon game will look awesome anyway
kriauciuniux  +   549d ago
I always prefered resolution.Because 720p look dirty.
AsimLeonheart  +   548d ago
720p dirty? You should try playing games on the SD TV from a decade ago like we old gamers used to. LOL!
kriauciuniux  +   548d ago
I have been around and played sd but that doesn't mean I should accept 720p.1080 just looks glorious when compared side by side
Stroke666  +   548d ago
for them to display at 1080p they'd have to dumb down the graphic content, which means you be seeing crystal clear high definition shit, cause thats wat the games would look like then that would be another complaint, its a catch 22
Gran Touring  +   549d ago
For racing games; simulation games in particular, a high framerate is a necessity.
Knushwood Butt  +   548d ago
For me it's better to not buy under powered, over priced hardware.
scissor_runner  +   548d ago
Yeah 1080 would be nice. Yet it's in hd above 20 fps. With these type of graphics and it's a friggin $350 console. I wonder why ps4 games are not 1080? Oh they wanted to put more stuff on screen??? Why isn't all that ram making 1080 happen?
porkChop  +   548d ago
That doesn't equal better visuals. Running below native res on a 1080p display results in a very blurry image. Running in 1080p provides a clean, crisp image, and that's a lot more important than you might think.

As for 30fps, it's fine for most games. However, it's not ok for a racing simulation and will have a negative impact on the experience. It seems like these guys are sacrificing the feel and experience of the game just for the sake of having pretty graphics. Graphics are nice, and I like having good graphics, but not if it affects the gameplay.
Farsendor1  +   549d ago
wiiu isn't a powerful console,this seems about right.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   549d ago
Actually, the Wii U is the strongest console out right now.
BlmThug  +   549d ago
A recent console being more powerful than 7-8 year old consoles is worthy of banging your chest with pride?
Stroke666  +   548d ago
@blmthug...yup, since everyone wants to compare wii u to current gen then yup imma bang on my chest and tell'em ps360 got nothing on wii u. when ps4/xbox720 come out the only thing they'll have over wii u is slightly better graphics.
porkChop  +   548d ago
It's slightly faster in GPU. RAM is half the speed, making the 1GB (1GB is reserved for the OS) too slow for developers to actually make good use of. The CPU is ancient 11 year old architecture and is extremely slow and inefficient. The Wii U is NOT the strongest console out right now. Overall it's quite a bit slower than PS3 and 360. That's the truth whether you choose to believe it or not.
R00bot  +   548d ago
LOL @ Porkchop thinking the ps3 and 360 are more powerful than the Wii U. NO games AT ALL ran in 720p/1080p when the ps3 and 360 came out. Even now COD doesn't run in proper HD, it get upscaled to 720p from I don't even know how many P's.
Rhythmattic  +   548d ago
NOOBot > ROObot

Wtf?

PS3
Resistance: Fall of Man = 1280x720 (QAA)

360
Gears of War = 1280x720 (HD), 960x720 (SD)

Have a look , Im sure you'll find some early release titles that prove your statement very wrong.

http://forum.beyond3d.com/s...

Check out Ridge Racer....
Ridge Racer 7 (demo) = 1920x1080 (no AA)
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esemce  +   549d ago
No racing game feels amazing running at 30fps, fact!

I wont be playing any nextgen racing game that cannot run at 60fps.
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mcstorm  +   549d ago
I have to disagree forza horizon feel and looks amazing and it runs at 30fps. If it feels like this then im happy plus I've said I want a racer for the Wiiu. Plus im sure it will be the best looking game out of the 3 consoles.
paul1974  +   549d ago
amazing how you trolls did not read the bit that said "it will run 720p at 30 fps on all platforms" this is due to th amount of cars and weather effects on screen!

So ps4 and 720 will run at 30fps and 720p! oh dear you sad little bunch....

And as someone pointed out, ps4 already confirmed to still run at 720p and 30 fps for games! wake up people unless you have a proper PC only certain games will run at 1080p or 60fps! there has to be a compromise based upon the amount of detail and activity or speed of a game... makes me laugh when you troll the wii u when the dev says it will look amazing....
ILive  +   549d ago
Its not coming to the next gen platforms. Please provide a link where it says that PS4 games will run at 720p at 30fps. Perhaps you are just delusional.
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WiiUsauce  +   548d ago
Killzone Shadowfall runs at 30FPS -_____- http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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Trago1337  +   549d ago
I wonder how many of these dudes will even read the article. lol
barb_wire  +   549d ago
I wonder how many WiiU owners will actually go out and BUY this game..
Trago1337  +   549d ago
Personally i wouldn't mind delving in to this, as long as the gamepad features are good. For example RE: Revelations on Wii U will have off TV play, and touch screen functionality just like the 3ds version, and that's another Wii U version of a multiplat i plan on buying.

Can't speak for other Wii U owners though.
Amigaengine  +   548d ago
Most def a day one purchase if it plays well. Wonder if it has any multi-player ?
bullymangLer  +   548d ago
you wonder the most insignificant things
StraightedgeSES  +   549d ago
Judging by the responses i say not that many.
Trago1337  +   549d ago
Yeah, regardless of how it sells, the Wii U needs more multiplats.
GABRIEL1030  +   549d ago
Can you give us a screenshot or video?
Iceman X  +   549d ago
Wipeout HD 1080p, 60fps. 4 years old.
testerg35  +   548d ago
So why aren't all the games 1080p? I'm pretty sure wiiu could do wipeout at 1080p,
stuna1  +   548d ago
The WII U can't even do mario in 1080p!
R00bot  +   548d ago
Nintendo doesn't know how to make HD games well yet. Give them time. The next mario game will PROBABLY run in 1080p. I think we might have to wait until the next Metroid game to see something worthy of the next gen title. Or maybe "X"...
specialguest  +   548d ago
lol
Wipeout was a PSP HD remake with super low polygon count, flat single color no detail textures, and a static environment. Its nothing to compare to or brag about. Even ps2 HD remake games uses more system resources than Wipeout HD.
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younghavok  +   548d ago
Hell MH3 Ultimate is 1080p. And thats doing way more than Wipeout. Wasnt ZoE on PS3 like 720p and had a sporatic framerate? And that was a PS2 game. Wii U has plenty of power and this game looks amazing already. If it looks like it does now on the Wii U than it will be the best looking racer on the market when it releases.
josephayal  +   549d ago
Decent Graphics
I feel pretty good about investing in Wii U
CaulkSlap  +   549d ago
"Hotly anticipated"..... sure whatever. WiiU is PS3/360 generation specs old news.
PopRocks359  +   549d ago
No, actually it isn't.

Related video
LordHiggens  +   548d ago
I see nothing in this video, it's the same as it was on the PS3/360.
LordHiggens  +   548d ago
@PopRocks359

"If he is able to see a difference between the 360/PS3 version and the PC version"

I said I wasn't able to, try reading next time...remember to take your time and use your words...
NightStalker33  +   548d ago
LordHiggens, an interview showed that the footage is running off a PC port, not a Ps3 or 360 port.
LordHiggens  +   548d ago
aaaaand??? Still looks the same to me.
PopRocks359  +   548d ago
@NightStalker33

Ignore him. If he is able to see a difference between the 360/PS3 version and the PC version, but not with the Wii U version, he's either a hypocrite or in denial.
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OMNlPOTENT  +   549d ago | Well said
hey look a Wii U article let's jump on the bandwagon and hate on it. hey look a PS4 article ANYONE WHO HAS AN OPINION AGAINST IT MUST BE DESTROYED
jcnba28  +   549d ago
So true! lol
MNGamer-N  +   549d ago
They are just trolling along in troll land as usual. Put on your troll shoes time to go for troll walk at the troll park, and play troll of duty on my new troll machine.
arbitor365  +   548d ago
pardon us for expecting a "next gen" sim to be able to match racing games that are 3-4 years old. how unreasonable of us.

its not a matter of bandwagon jumping. to say that it is, is to assume that the wii u and PS4 are on some equal playing field. they arent. AT ALL.

whether it be third party support, online, launch titles, graphical power, and console features, the wii u is failing.

pointing that out is not fanboyism or bandwagon hopping. it is simply not feeling the need to damage control for nintendo
lilbroRx  +   548d ago
1. This game isn't a last gen racing game though. Its next racing game that was made to use many more resources than last gen games.

2. No ever suggest made an argument of the Wii U being equal to the PS4 except Sony fans who created it because that is what they want Nintendo fans to say. The general Nintendo fan and Nintendo itself opinion was that they don't care how much stronger the other two next gen console will be.

3. Wii U isn't failing, it is "starting". It will only get better from here.

4. There is only 1 form of fanboyism here and it is the kind that jumps to promote anything that can be viewed as negative as the "end all" absolute fact. Its the kind that ignores are details as they are inconvenient for bashing. It is the kind that jumps to promote all negative news while disparaging anything that can be perceived as good.
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XabiDaChosenOne  +   548d ago
@lilbroRx
"3. Wii U isn't failing, it is "starting". It will only get better from here." LOL.
AKR  +   549d ago
I like it how people are ignoring the fact that this is only Slightly Mad Studios who's having their games running on Wii U at 720p-60FPS. Not the entire game dev community. The Wii U most likely is capable of much more, but I don't see a problem with this game's specefications. It is a pretty power-hungry game, either way.
PopRocks359  +   548d ago
People are essentially making this a hardware issue when it's a development issue. Criterion's Wii U port of Need for Speed already shows that the Wii U can produce a nicer looking game.
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FlyingFoxy  +   549d ago
All consoles have this problem, after a couple of years when graphics start pushing a bit they will be limited to 30fps. This is ok for some games, but when it comes to fast paced games you are much better off having a good PC for the perfomance difference of 60+, nevermind the extra graphics.
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Mister_G  +   549d ago
And runs at 1080p @ 60fps on PS4/X720? ;)
Ck1x  +   548d ago
What I don't get is why people think that the resolution is the only thing to take into account when making a game look great. This game on the WiiU could be running at 30fps & 720p native(upscaled to 1080p) but include hi-res PC textures. Which would probably look simply amazing and far beyond anything we've currently seen running on the system!
ChickeyCantor  +   548d ago
Exactly what I thought. It says nothing about what is being computed. This is why I mostly hate this generation of gamers. They are blindly following buzz words but dont know jack**it when it comes to how it actually works.
NightStalker33  +   548d ago
Exactly, Need For Speed was running off of a PC port, this could possibly be using higher textures
Qrphe  +   548d ago
"30fps & 720p native(upscaled to 1080p) but include hi-res PC textures. Which would probably look simply amazing and far beyond anything we've currently seen running on the system!"

That's simply incorrect just because you're still displaying whatever is on screen at 720p. NFS is the perfect example; it may look better than PS360 but it's not anything beyond significant.
solidboss07  +   548d ago
It is a little dissapointing. Playstation 4 will deliver 1080p x 30fps minimum, fact. Not hard to believe when PS3 can do this. If people were claiming 4K then you could call it crap, but why are some 'wee fanny balls' trying to convince themselves WiiU is as good as it will get when we know about PS4 and Nextbox?
Salta_nelas  +   548d ago
How many racing games on ps3/xbox360 run at 60fps?

Wipeout, Burnout (criterion games), GT5, Forza, what else?

Imo, racing and fighting games play and feel better at 60fps.
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amm203  +   548d ago
Nothing else that I can think of.
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lilbroRx  +   548d ago
Are all of those racing games doing what Project Car's is doing on a technical level?

There were racing games that at 60 FPS on the N64. I guess that means that all of the racing games on the PS2 that ran at 30 FPS show that the N64 is stronger...
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arbitor365  +   548d ago
next gen racing sim, people

project cars ---- 30FPS 720P (wii u 2013)

gran turismo 5 -- 60FPS 1080P (PS3 2010)

i cant stop laughing
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lilbroRx  +   548d ago
That is correct. "NEXT GEN" as in its doing a lot more than Gran Turismo 5 and thus requires far more resources to run.
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wolokowoh  +   548d ago
While I love that people are arguing when the announced specs of PS4 compared to what we know about Wii U specs clearly tells us the whole story, Wii is current gen for one simple reason. It has already been released. PS3 may still have games being released on it much like PS2 continued releasing games straight through the 360 launch, but either PS3 is now last gen even though you're still actively playing it. Last generation was PS3, 360, and Wii. Even if wasn't that powerful, if you look anywhere Wii is listed as being in the seventh generation of consoles and Wii U will be listed as being the first console released for the eighth generation. What people ignore is Nintendo is once again going to be the cheapest console with the most recognizable franchises. If they substantially improve their network infrastructure features and continue releasing their franchises now in some form of HD, they'll be just fine. The power gap is much smaller than it was between PS3/360 and Wii, most consumers(we're talking all the people who bought WiiFit here) are not going to care that Mario Kart Wii U isn't in 1080p 60fps as long as it's still at least 720p 30fps(to clarify I am not saying this is the limitation of Wii U).
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Triggytrolls  +   548d ago
Why WII U is so dusty.
Killabites  +   548d ago
I drove my car today and that was in real time human graphics, with no liquid cooling, no BSOD no RROD no YLOD i was impressed sorry boys i did'nt have fraps installed :(
ExCest  +   548d ago
But you probably weren't going 150 mph (or kph, whatever floats your boat) in a Ferrari, weren't you?

We can probably install fraps when Google Glass goes mainstream and starts to kick @ss.
momthemeatloaf  +   548d ago
Shadow fall, 30 frames a second, run to cover shooter like cod, hardly next gen. Stop attacking Nintendo.
NobodyImportant  +   548d ago
And running in full 1080p. Forgot that little piece of information didn't you?

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

"higher-grade volumetric effects, masses of on-screen geometry, object-based motion blur, SSAO, and a full 1080p native frame-buffer"
amm203  +   548d ago
Anyone who has played MGS HD Collection for PS3 can attest the 60FPS even at 720p is damn smooth and beautiful. If that smoothness was in FarCry 3 I'd be thrilled.
DonFreezer  +   548d ago
What?Far Cry 3 on the pc is extremely smooth if you take into account that there's no frame limit on the pc.
pedroyamato  +   548d ago
The hating on this site never change lol

It does not matter wii u will be 720p 30fps since it will still look much better than the same 720p 30fps at ps360, dont believe me? compare NFSMW then.
lilbroRx  +   548d ago
You know they don't want to here that. They want to insist upon this belief of the Wii U only being on par with current consoles to the death.

Its clear that the Wii U version will only be a port of the either the 360 or PS3 version. Whichever one is the lead console.

There is no way they are building this from the ground up, because all games built from the ground up for the Wii U to date are either 1080p 30fps or 720p 60fps.
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NobodyImportant  +   548d ago
Can someone explain what is so special about NFSMW?
I'm not trolling or being sarcastic. I honestly want to know.
If watched the youtube videos and it just looks like a standard racer like GRID or DIRT. Maybe I'm not noticing what makes it better than a ps360 title so if anyone can point out what's better then that would be great.
Are the textures better? Lighting?
What is NFSMW doing better than GT5? Or what is NFSMW doing that GT5 isn't?

Just interested. Not trolling.
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