"The business development manager at Nordic Games, Reinhard Pollice, had some interesting things to tell us about the PS4 and the also about their recently released game Painkiller Hell and Damnation, in a yet to be published interview."
um...the exclusive games and familiar ecosystem?? I'd say those two are awesome reasons to get a ps4.
Reasons to get a PS4 over a PC: Cheaper then PC. All games run on high settings without the need to upgrade to get them. Being able to share games without have to buy any code keys to use games. An you say PS4 doesn't have to many good exclusives? Sorry but PC doesn't get to many as well and PC is losing alot of developers do to more people buying games on console then PC. COD being one of the biggest ones.
@HebrowHammer I bought over 150games on Steam in these last 6 years. A) they cost me much less then console versions, i might have saved USD 2-3K just because i bought them on PC and on Steam discounts. B) Had i bought them for a console i would have been pulling my hair right now since i wouldnt be able to play them on the next box. Console gamers may argue you can keep the PS3. Yes you can but what happens after it fails? Do i keep buying it again and again? What happens if i have games from the PS2 gen too? So now am i supposed to buy the PS2 and PS3 again and again just so i can maintain my library. I would rather prefer 1 modern machine that plays it all. Sorry but i dont have the space for multiple boxes and their accessories mean while the cost to maintain so many boxes.
@Neko "All games run on high settings without the need to upgrade to get them. Being able to share games without have to buy any code keys to use games." First its not cheaper, games are cheaper on PC. 600usd PC outperforms the PS4 as of today. Does the PS3 run all games at high settings? No it doesnt, in comparison to PC, PS3 runs games in Low settings with no AA, blurry textures. Same will be the comparison for PS4. "An you say PS4 doesn't have to many good exclusives? Sorry but PC doesn't get to many as well and PC is losing alot of developers do to more people buying games on console then PC. COD being one of the biggest ones." PS4 maybe getting 2-3 good exclusives a year, not everyone likes all exclusives. PC has more exclusives than any console, you need to catch up. PC gamers are happy developers like Activision are solely concentrated on consoles since their model of business wont work for PC gamers aka rehashing the same game every year.
T900. Yeah and I could get a virus that totally screws up my computer, and get this, I just bought a brand new pc, and I can't get on steam, I have windows 8 and the flash driver is having issues. And dont tell me its me, It happened to another win 8 comp I had. BTW, the real reason to get a ps4 is cause Sony makes good hardware that last, and its all proprietary, so all my friends and I need to do is pick up and play. Screw pc gaming
All the PC fanboys trying to claim no bc is an issue. Like my PS3 is going anywhere just because im buying a PS4. And no, im not too lazy to change a couple of leads over. Anyone who says its too difficult to keep swapping needs to take a serious look at their attitude. Oh, but what about when it breaks in a few years time? Then I'll buy a new one. A PS2 can be bought for £15 now. PS3's will be cheap in the future if I need to replace it. Theres one reason I wont buy a PC. Its not price, because they're pretty close. Its not that the box under the TV (whatever your choice is) is designed to do just one primary thing - play games and developers have tools to make the most out of whatever power is in the box. The reason is simply that I can drop £300-400 on a console this year and know that in 5,6,7+ years time that console will still be relevant. That the person over the street isnt going to have a more powerful Playstation or an Xbox with better graphics. Developers know whats under the hood and they know that every console of that type will be the same. Theres no minimum requirements on consoles, and because of this look at the quality of games they can make for consoles is of the highest level. I dont slate PC players for their choice of gaming rig. Why do PC players insist on claiming superiority over consoles?
honestly, if you are rich, you would buy a sick ass PC and a PS4... if you are an average gamer, PS4 is way to go
them pc elitist are getting threatened that vast low budget exclusive game list no one cares about that $600 pc with great specs and no OS them cheap steam multiplat games I can find on amazon for the same price. let the jimmies rustle all jokes aside.Im getting a gaming laptop when I get my tax returns in a few weeks.Besides money I dont see a reason gamers cant enjoy the best of both worlds
If a person is not excited about PlayStation exclusives, then they're not a very good gamer. I don't give a crap what your preferred platform is... if you're missing a platform, you're missing quality gaming experiences. Multi-plats are great, but many exclusives go above and beyond multi-plats because they can play to the specific platform's strengths.
@ T900 - if you think your $600 PC will stack up against a PS4. It's the mistake all PC-only gamers make when looking at specs, and its just as silly as claiming the PS4 will beat high-end PCs. PC's have a huge barrier to reaching optimal performance through Windows (and yes, you could game on Linux, but then you'd be playing with less games than the PS4 will likely launch with :P). Then, on top of that, devs have to cope with numerous different hardware configurations, leading to far lower optimisation. Even now, consoles perform far better, per dollar of cost - than PCs. Claim that a $250 PC that can give you visuals like God of War: Ascension or Halo 4 and they'll lock you in a loony bin. Tbh, I'd wager that $600 PC wouldn't actually give you much better, and it costs more than twice as much. Then, of course, you have the extra work to make things work. The tweaking, the changing of .ini files, the selective patching and whatever else can (and often does) go wrong. One of the biggest reasons I prefer my multiplats on PS3 and Xbox 360 over PC (I have all three - PC for grand strategy and exclusives) is because I know the game will work every time. No hours of searching forums and trying different fixes just to get to the menu screen (hello Mass Effect, and Victoria 2).
PC gaming is overrated. No good developers, some good games here and there. Only good thing about PC gaming is that you can pay for upgrades to make your game look shinier :) Real gamers have both PC and Playstation, but only a fool would say there's no benefit to getting a PS4 over a PC. If you like games, PS4 is where it's at...PC just wont ever be at the level of console games. And I dont mean visually, before you PC elitists come at me foaming at hte mouth.
so the PS4 having like 10 exclusive games a year is better than the pcs thousands.
If they're exclusives I want to play then hell yes
Most exclusive PC games are low budget, and have little to no mass market appeal. The only PC exclusives worth getting excited for are Warcraft, Starcraft, League of Legends and maybe ARMA, and that's if you're into those types of games. If you want to be a PC only gamer, thats fine, but you're only depriving yourself from some of the best games in the industry by avoiding Sony's consoles.
I have a beefy PC I use for gaming as well as a PS3 and PS4 at launch. For FPSs and MMOs I stick to my PC. But for third person games, amazing PS3 exclusives, netflix on my big tv and splitscreen gaming, I prefer console. I'm not a fanboy that sticks and defends one or the other, instead I enjoy both worlds.
"so the PS4 having like 10 exclusive games a year is better than the pcs thousands." *looks at the GotY list from the PS3/360 era* Yes. Yes it is.
People have different tastes. Those thousands of exclusives don't matter if they don't appeal to him.
There are really thousands of exclusive pc title a year? Are u for real? Even if it's true, no one plays a 100 games a year let alone thousands! I have a gaming pc too but just like him, I love to play on my PS3 more and it will be no different with the PS4 as long as there are games I am interested in. So...it's not worth it for me to have spent the amount of 3 ps3s to buy my pc because I love gaming on my PS3 more? I don't think so! So it's the same too vise versa
Bigger IP and exclusivity (timed or otherwise) on console in this PS3/PS4 transition year are a benefit imo. Have been for a while. Critical PC IP like Diablo 3 seem to make their way to console with much more regularity. The reverse, not so much. The PC only *just* got Brutal Legend this year. Arkham City and Dark Souls came late as will other multiplats I've wanted like Metal Gear Rising, if it comes to PC at all. Reinhard's own game and PC exclusive 'Painkiller: Hell and Damnation' (a 64% on metacritic) will also release on console in another month, but with better received FPS out there like Killzone, the PS4's Killzone:Shadowfall feels like a safer investment. Exclusive wise, consoles seem to have the benefit this year, Rein'.
How about not having to worry about games not being playable on your four year Ps4 like you have to do with pc
What happens when a game like Skyrim, COD, Fallout, Farcry 3 releases on the PS4 and you have bad frame rates and the devs arent doing anything about it. You are stuck with no options. Atleast on the PC you have the community making patches and fixes or you can upgrade to more powerful hardware to play the game. With console you are just stuck with your hands tied behind your back.
@reynod, good thing i dont play, skyrim, fallout, or farcry (i dabble in COD mainly because of the old lady). I play a few games on my PC, mainly RTS games, but the majority of the games i like comes out on consoles. Play what you like and dont insult people for having different tastes......unless they start to affect what you like, lol.
Lol... way way way too exaggerated there. PC's will last a lot longer than 4 years... most definitely not on max settings though but at this point low settings now are better looking than what the current consoles can do. My friend was able to play BF3 on a i7(1.6GHz) laptop using the integrated graphics which weren't even close to reaching the minimum specs required for that game. The 560 is what most games recommend at the moment... the 680 being necessary to max out most games. A single 690 or a titan would last you through the next gen console life.
also significantly cheaper than a gaming PC...
it depends on what the gamer is willing to invest in regards to PC gaming. The issue with PC gaming is the understanding of the pc parts. Most people buy PC parts according to brand and price which leads to constant problems, upgrades, and headaches. You have to look for the details like ram check it's clock speed, watts usage, amount. Power supply make sure it's certified preferably gold or silver, dual rail, number of watts it contains. When it comes to PC gaming is all about what the parts offer and that are compatible with one another. Those that look into the details can build an efficient, low power (watts usage) long lasting gaming pc.
I've never seen the PC side so threatened by consoles.
T H Y A R E SCARED
The only reason I buy any console is for the exclusives. Otherwise I would just stay with a PC since I am a graphics/options/mods whore.
Geez, so much controversy about the PS4 and a gaming PC. PC's are afraid of what the PS4 can develop. That's why they're accusing the PS4 of not being beneficial or "not worth your money" or "PS4 is incompetent"!
PC has exclusives too...
Exactly 100% The Exclusives, the Ecosystem and the social interaction with other Console gamer's. I mean why would you as a gamer get a Console Game system in the first place if that was not it?
It's always things like exclusives and features that will make a console more attractive. I think this guy is speaking specifically about the graphics department.
I really don't understand, why do people compare consoles with pc? They are different products in the market just like, tablets, mobiles, televisions etc. Ok, they both play games but nobody compares tablets with consoles and pc regarding graphics because people know that there is no comparison because every product can be different. Secondly consoles are dedicated gaming machines and you can carry game discs and the consoles, where ever you go, for example you have a party at friend's house you don't need to setup them. Thirdly, ease of excess, you just put the disc in the console and play, no error messages, no lengthy installation process, you don't need any prior knowledge just to play the game and there are no settings.
I still don't get why people think like this. If I wanted to play games on PC, I'd do it but, as it turns out, I find console gaming a much more enjoyable experience for a variety of reasons.
such as what pay for dlc, pay for yearly subscriptions, less content for your games. Servers get shut down and the console gamer cannot longer play online no more. At the moment Sony is the only corporation that delivers excellent exclusives that are innovative or new ips, Microsoft just gears and halo and Nintendo same franchises from 1985 like Mario zelda and metroid. Ten there was the whole debate about the PS3 getting hacked which prevented PS3 gamers from playing online. Not that PC gaming is perfect it still has a learning curve dealing with setting up and buying pc parts. Other than maintaining the PC and the learning curve PC gaming is pure bliss.
Butthurt, it's everywhere.
1 benefit is no windows 8
Price? Not everyone is a computer whiz or wants to play on a computer? Exclusive games? Convenience? Familiarity? Why is it people always pull out the PC card for Sony but not Nintendo? Where were these articles for the Wii?
Because Nintendo don't play the same game that MS and Sony play in terms of focussing on specs and graphical fidelity above all else. They have a different approach, and I'm glad they do as the industry is homogenised enough as it is.
idiot, don't even bother read to know the article is full of crap.
it funny how the big PC business men are coming out and Sayin its not worth buying next gen consoles and that PC can do it all... newsflash we know PC has been able to do it all and has better graphics.. we just dgaf about PC.. Consoles > PC
As much as I use to be a console gamer. PC gaming is so much better. All my games in one place. The fluidity. The mods. Configuring controls exactly how I want them. (Keyboard or controller). The community. I'm not saying it's not worth it to get consoles becausesine people just don't like dealing with computers but I will say that pc is a much more personalized choice.
It tells valumes that even from the PC side of things the damage control has started to get prety obvious. Nvidia, Crytec, Nordic Games, PC's fanbase. Its good to see since 9 out of 10 it means that the Playstation 4 is a threat to every single one of them. Deisagree all you wan't, denial is a wonderfull thing x!
Crytek and Nordic are just developers/publishers. Why would a console be a threat to them?
In the case of Crytec its because they're main interest is selling CryEngine 3, which is used mainly by PC developers. They're keen to protect that market.
its not damage control to speak the truth the ps4/nextbox are already years behind pc before they launch look at the unreal 4 engine on ps4, then look at it on a single gtx680 a year before the ps4 demo why does the ps4 demo version look like crap, because its not as powerful as a pc from a year ago, and never will be http://www.pcper.com/news/E...
If all anyone cared about was raw technological prowess, then consoles wouldn't even exist and everyone would be gaming on PC's exclusively already. Only a certain group of people give a crap about performance above all else...everyone else cares only about the games. It's nice to have both performance and great games, of course, but spec sheets are not the be all and end all. There's a reason the original Super Mario Bros. will forever be looked back on fondly while a game like the original Crysis will be a mere blip on a few enthusiasts radar.
The PS4 isn't a threat at all. What you're getting, is something we've had all the time. It's just that the PS community thinks it's the second coming.
1. Price advantage from subsidized hardware 2. Ease of use 3. Suitable for Living Room There is room in this competitive world for both consoles and PCs. And as a result, it is the consumer who wins.
1. Not able to play old games, easily out does any 100-200usd saved on hardware 2. Steam Install, Play 3. HTPC (full freedom to use it as you like, its the ultimate media hub no console is any match).
1.As I will be able to play the type of games I like on the PS4 such as Killzone, Infamous...and I'm sure Uncharted, GOW etc then I don't give a rats a##e about the PC. 2. My PS3 will be available for my old games, Oh and by the way mine does play PS2 games but guess what they work better on my PS2. 3. I will buy a PS4 safe in the knowledge it will still be compatiable with all the games that launch for it years after the 1st system is sold. I am glad you like your PC but I have been there done that and the hassle that was PC gaming was not for me.
this is really stupid, and they deserve to be insulted. Not everyone like to play on PC, moron!! Also there are so many different things between the PC and consoles.
Why all the PS4 hate from PC people?
I'm assuming tensions are high from the "PS4 will be better than most gaming PCs for years" thing a while ago. Comments from fanboys on both sides didn't help either.
there upset that crytek abandoned them, and that the ps4 is a beast probably best not to mention the ram
Uhmm I can List it and spell it out for you... Exclusive games not coming to PC's, Price-point(cheaper than high end PC's), Hassle free gaming(No compatibility issues, ready to play mandatory install just minimal) 4. Simplicity, more user friendly, 100% controller optimized, Motion gaming for casuals... And lastly Just keep your opinion to your "ONE SIDED" article. I Like PC's, But saying a console doesnt have benefits over a PC, well your Deluded!! Call a doctor have your mental status checked.. Geez It's people like these gives PC gamers a bad name.
I'm sorry, I prefer to lay on my bed with my balls hanging out while playing on a 36 inch full HDTV. Not at a computer like a nerd.
They have to drop before they can hang out.
I can see why you have only a single bubble.
My PC is plugged into my 46" 3D TV just fine thanks....just like my Wii U and PS3. What's your point? Wireless controllers work fine on PC - including the 360 and PS3 pads, and even Wiimotes. Like Brucis said, I can see why you only have a single bubble.
It there any other way to play
PC'S are gangsta
I don't understand all this hate coming from the PC crowd either. I build my own Gaming rigs, as most us PC games do, but lets be real. Building an affordable PC gaming rig that will run anything is out of the question with the mass population, they just couldnt do it. They bearly know how to check their email. The mass population is stuck paying for over priced Alienwares and other name brand junk, if they wan't to game on PC, costing them thousands. You cannot honestly mean a consumor good will if you tell them that PC gaming is more cost effective then buying a flipping $400-500 console that will last them 6 years. PC gaming is, and only ever will be for enthusists that don't mind upgrading the parts every few years, which is costly. And don't bother telling me you can run crysis 3 max with [insert $500 budget build here]. The average consomer does'nt have access that that, If it ain't on Best Buys shelves, then its not an option for the masses.
You're spot on Mikeyy. I'm a PC/PS3 gamer. I upgraded my PC to run The Witcher 2 on ultra settings a couple of years ago. The total upgrade cost was roughly $600.00 (Upgraded Graphic card, power supply (for graphic card) and memory). And I'm confident that it is now out of date for high-end PC optimized gaming. This would never be the case for dedicated console gaming two years out. Further the PS3 has shown absolutely beautiful graphic rendering (see GOW A) 7 years post launch. In short. It's good to support both.. however, we're are not comparing PC gaming to 8 bit systems anymore. This type of PC elitism needs to stop.
Not to go off topic, but I do agree with what you say for the most part, but there are people out there in this very world that actually think and believe that their smart phone(s) that they spent hundreds of dollars on can out do a pc, or is even a better pc within the palm(s) of their hands... I was told by a coworker, that their Iphone 5 can play better games and do more than my pc which has an i5-2500 K, and a Gtx 560.... I had no choice but to shut my mouth......... *At below comments*.... I agree with you, Its that I have to be very selective with my words in hope that my message istaken properly, seeing that im trying to think and type with my phone at the same time, at work and not trying to have someone b!tch at me, for using it... And i also mentioned other interesting Ps4 system related features as well, I for one don't understand why the Ram is getting all the attention, when the CPU won't have to be plagued with running the OS and Games at once! Unlike the PS3!!
Mikeyy Im afraid Im going to have to issue you with a verbal warning. In case you missed the small print on the internets terms and conditions it says "Common sense and reasoned opinion will not be tolerated on the internet".
Well said, indeed, Mikeyy. I agree with you completely. I have (at best) the semi-suggested requirements to run the games I have on my PC. I don't have the funds nor the time to go out and make my rig the all powerful gaming messiah that so many PC elitists claim to be the best option for gaming. I'm happy with what I have for my PC. One would think that being happy with what you have would be enough to suffice a good gaming experience and not how much you paid to make a game seem realistic. That's why I'm excited for the PS4 and everything that Sony mentioned it will deliver. I will always game on PC, but my main gaming platform of choice will be Playstation. Until I win the lottery or land a career in my intended field, my PC won't be getting any overhaul upgrades anytime soon.