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Submitted by Prcko 397d ago | news

Crytek: console companies could die off if they "go beyond what we say is next gen"

"It's just physically and financially impossible to go higher."
Never one to pass up the opportunity for a grand statement, Crytek's founder and CEO Cevat Yerli has told OXM that it would be "physically and financially impossible" to release a next generation Xbox that exceeds Crytek's own estimated specifications. (Dev, Industry, Next-Gen)

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animegamingnerd  +   397d ago
you don't control the industry crytek
classic200  +   397d ago
Crytek = the PC elitist of developers.

We are cool because the POWARFUL GRAFIX, you console devolopers follow in or lead with GRAFIX.
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onyoursistersback  +   397d ago
never gana buy a Crytek game again....
BitbyDeath  +   397d ago
Will make an exception for TimeSplitters
Saigon  +   397d ago
Man Crytek is arrogant as hell...this is not the first time they did something like this...I am tired of them opening their mouths like they know everything. Just because you make one game that is brilliant in the technical aspect, does not mean you are the industry it man. Damn...
decrypt  +   397d ago
Imo Console gamers are over reacting. Crytek speaks the truth.

Its an undeniable fact that this gen has been hard on both MS and Sony. More so Sony than MS.

Lets start with Sony:

All we have seen Sony do this gen is make losses. 5-10 years back, Sony were a market leader in TVs, Cameras, Camcorders, MP3 players and a host of other electronic devices. Today They have been beaten in most if not all those categories.

Even Sonys once successful console division, the PS2 was profitable from its 2nd year on wards. Which is why when they made the PS3, it was equal to mid range PCs at launch. Sony lost a lot of money with the research for the PS3. With the PS4 its mostly just off the shelf parts. Its not even released yet and is already beaten by Midrange PCs. By the time it does release Low end PCs will probably be giving it a run for its money.

Microsoft:

While MS has been able to make profit of the Xbox 360, we need to realize the Xbox division is a very small part of the company. Hence even the profits from this division are a very small part for the company.

Everyone knows MS's golden goose is Windows, Office and their Server division. Unfortunately for MS the PC market is in a slow down. The slow down is quite intense. This is mostly the case because most people dont need to upgrade their PCs any more. Most businesses are still running PCs with Windows XP. They dont tend to replace these machines until they fail which means less copies of Windows sold.

Many organizations are evening turning to BYOD(bring your own device) model of work, which means people bring any device they want to work on, Android or IOs based devices. These devices have really hurt the sales of PCs as 5 - 10 year old PCs are still powerful enough for Internet surfing or email. Windows 8 poor sales are a testament to the winds of change in the industry.

Disaster is up in the air for MS. If Windows loses popularity(which is quickly happening now), sales of Office and Server based products will go down too. The Xbox division wont be able to keep the company afloat if this keeps up.

Bottom line MS when launched Xbox 360, it was faster than any high end PC of that time for 6 months. Xbox 720 is rumored to be equal or slower than the PS4.

Hence both of them will be equal to low end PCs (500usd machines) by the time they launch. Console makers have scaled back this gen, in an effort to try and make a profit. Both of them are in trouble. Hence arent investing too much into this gen.
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SilentNegotiator  +   397d ago
Screw it...Crysis was never "technically" impressive and the sequels are sub-par. Crysis was just a game way before its time that hardly anyone could run at launch...what's "technically impressive" about a game that requires a lot of power to run? I could crap a bunch of pixar-detailed assets onto a game map and it would be impossible for most people to run....is that "technically impressive"? No, it's just science; giving the average hardware something that it can't run, won't run.

It's like designing a godly water pump and calling it impressive that its Niagra Falls flow of water won't all squeeze through a 10mm pipe without the pressure destroying it. Am I impressed that you created all of the fine details of such a pump (the 3d modelling itself)? Sure. Am I impressed that the output won't be contained by a 10mm pipe (the rendering requiring insane hardware)? No.

A ridiculously detailed game having trouble running on consumer grade hardware is not impressive. A beautiful, detailed game that you can get to run on modest hardware...THAT is impressive.

Get over yourselves, Crytech. Not even elitists bang on about your games anymore.
cayleee  +   397d ago
@Silent

"Crysis was never "technically" impressive and the sequels are sub-par. Crysis was just a game way before its time that hardly anyone could run at launch"

So 6 years later why isnt there a console game that can match Crysis if Crysis was Sub par? So i guess console games must be a disaster if Crysis is Sub par as per you.

Historically before development became stagnant due to consoles. No high end PC game could ever be maxed out on release, same was the case with Crysis.

If you are old enough to remember Quake 2, Farcry 1, Quake 3, Half life 2.

All those games couldnt be maxed out on release. It required, 2-3 years of new hardware to be able to play the games maxed out. Crysis was just repeating that trend Ie pushing the industry forward. Unfortunately what we hardly get to see these days.
SilentNegotiator  +   397d ago
@cayleee
"So i guess console games must be a disaster if Crysis is Sub par as per you"

I said that the sequels were subpar, not Crysis. Great reading skills; it's hilarious that you're implying that I wasn't around for Quake when you don't even have basic reading comprehension. The sequels were sub-par as in they didn't take the same leap that they were so proud of making before, not being as high standard as they could have been on PC. Crysis 2 didn't even have dx11 at launch and plenty of PC games already did. As well as being subpar as games.

Hardware would advance whether games that are nearly impossible to max at launch existed or not.
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cayleee  +   397d ago
@Silent

Consoles already had a problem running what Crytek made with Crysis 1, how could they have made a jump with Crysis 2?

Be reasonable. Crysis 1 already took hardware that was far superior to consoles to max out, how could Crysis 2 have been a leap forward if it was to run on consoles too? Its not possible.
T900  +   397d ago
Realistically speaking people disagreeing with Decrypt are just being fanboys.

Sony only made losses this gen- Fact

Sony used to be a leader in consumer electronics many years back - Fact

MS Barely made a profit - Fact

Windows is Ms's back bone - Fact

Windows 8 hasnt been well received neither have Surface tablets - Fact

If Ms cant turn around Windows then XBox wont save them.

If Sony cant make PS4 a success then they don't have anything else left.

People disagreeing are just in denial. Both the console makers are in trouble imo.
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ame22  +   397d ago
What's ironic is that the hypocrite is trash talking the same market that he went after with Crysis 2.
HappyGaming  +   397d ago
A movie studio is not the best studio because of visual effects.

A game developers is not the best because of graphics.

Crytek make great looking games but I always found Crysis very boring! There are studios out there that create full packages like Naughty Dog, Bungie, Rockstar... they offer great gameplay, great atmoshpere, Great Dialogue and story telling. That is what makes a game and these are the studios that I listen to.
PeaSFor  +   397d ago
meanwhile Crytek, try to do at least ONE good game.
princejb134  +   396d ago
thats all they really accomplished powerful graphics
but the gameplay for their games are so boring
looking at you crysis
knowyourstuff  +   396d ago
The Crytek guy was trying to say that consoles would be too expensive if they were too powerful, and so Crytek has estimated what specs could make up a 500 dollar console each year, and so far their estimates have been correct given past specs. They have said estimates of next gen as well and in so far specs have been largely in line with their estimates again. Lets just say, if consoles were 1000 bucks this gen, it wouldn't matter how high the specs were, even if it was technically worth it. Console owners cried like babies the last time a console was even 100 dollars more than the usual $500 launch price. Given this, Sony and Microsoft have been careful to include low end PC specs to ensure their costs stay down, because the outcry was just far too great last gen.

See what your whining does to the industry? It guarantees you will never get a super powerful console, even if it may be worth the money.
SilentNegotiator  +   396d ago
" Consoles already had a problem running what Crytek made with Crysis 1, how could they have made a jump with Crysis 2? "

It's their (well, EA's) problem that they went console, not ours.

The point is, there's nothing cutting edge about them anymore. Crytek pretending that they're some far ahead leaders of this industry is a laugh.
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Autodidactdystopia  +   396d ago
@ silent.

I get what you're saying. I do. crytek steps out of line a lot.
I personally dont care if they step out of line cause im the deciding factor in what i think. cevat and crytek are entitled to their opinion just like you are.

but I have to let you know that i disagree with you on every level of the low blows you've been dealing on your comment trail this page.

say what you want about the game length or gameplay etc. but to say that they dont make "technically" impressive videogames is just a complete denial of what actually is.

They are completely cutting edge since the days of farcry. I dont know about you but i just finished crysis 3 and that is "THE MOST" technically impressive thing ive ever seen done in realtime on a GPU.

What are you talking about not cutting edge? cutting edge of technology is the best you can get and they just put out. just cause you dont think so doesnt mean its not true.

if you are playing on a ps3 or 360 then i can understand your dissaproval, but to that i would say that you have not seen the game in its best light.

Seriously though, crytek has been pushing the industry foreward since I can remember. without them the bar would still be set pretty low. maybe you dont like their type of force in the industry, but its a neccessary force that i welcome seeing as how even if he says something offensive. I can take it cause i formulate my thoughts for my self. I also think that most people can too.
360ICE  +   396d ago
I really hate discussions between PC gamers and console gamers. It's always the same. PC fanboys are always like "Consoles nevar stood a chance. Dey are totally sub-par mid-range all de taim."

And then console fans are like "Why are you even bringing this up? I'm just sitting here at this fancy restaurant having a drink with my friends and you come up to me out of nowhere. Who are you even? Go home, you're drunk."

And then the PC fanboy ruins it all, because he, or she (haha, jk), has no social skills. Why? Because consoles have more social skills than PCs.

So that's why I hate these discussions. Because really, everyone has their preferences in gaming, be it graphics or whatever, and it's really just a good thing that PCs and consoles deliver different services, without the need for any of them to be sub-par. Even though PC gaming sucks. You know what you never hear? "Hey, let's go home to my place and play some game on my PC together". Sure, sometimes you hear "Hey, completely equal-minded person I've known for some time, let's take the insane effort of moving our PCs together to the same room", but mostly you only hear "Hey, person I've never known. Let's play PC online."

That's why I like PCs and consoles equally.
HOO-HAA  +   397d ago
They don't even control their own games, EA does!!
camel_toad  +   397d ago
Wow I'm getting tired of crytek. All graphics and all talk, totally mediocre if not subpar gameplay.
admiralvic  +   397d ago
The best thing is that they're saying this, yet Crysis 3 is selling so well that they're already offering 50% off ( http://www.facebook.com/cry... search for it).
Lior  +   397d ago
Best graphics of all time on pc though
HappyGaming  +   397d ago
@Lior
I agree, Crytek makes interesting benchmark "software" for the PC.
Lior  +   397d ago
PC ELITIST RIGHT HERE MY SECOND GTX 680 COMING TOMORROW SLI 680S CAN'T WAIT TO PLAY CRYSIS 3 IN 60FPS ON VERY HIGH SETTINGS WITH 2560 1440
jester1122  +   397d ago
To bad the game sucks I would rather just go play Battlefield graphics are almost just as good and the mp doesn't completely suck ...
hobohunterz  +   397d ago
Aren't benchmarks just so exciting!
-Falaut-  +   397d ago
That was easy.
BattleAxe  +   397d ago
Crytek is a company that is all show, and no go. I really don't understand how they've not only managed to survive, but also how they've managed to open so many studios, acquire Free Radical and buy the rights to Homefront. Where are they getting their money from?
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Autodidactdystopia  +   396d ago
Probably not from the followers of a Console Dominated internet forum/website.

Maybe from the outside world.... outside of the tiny bubble people here at n4g seem unable to escape.

no pun intended.
Pandamobile  +   396d ago
All 4 Crysis games have been successful, they license CryEngine 3, and do a ton of serious game and simulation stuff for contractors (often military and civil engineering projects).
jester1122  +   397d ago
Go home crytek your drunk again....
piroh  +   397d ago
they are drunk almost always
E2M  +   397d ago
Just because there know for great pc graphics doesn't mean they are good developers.
ILive  +   397d ago
I think the games for both systems will look good enough, depending on the engines being used and the developers. First party devs will most likely make most pc elitist believe in the systems. Killzone is already looking fantastic to me and things will only get better as time progress. Consoles may not be able to keep up with pcs but they will be able to hold there own against what pcs will offer. I am really just excited for the witcher 3 because cdp will make a fantastic game for both pc and consoles. Its gonna be a pc vs consoles gen, as opposed to console vs console it seems.
ATi_Elite  +   396d ago
LMAO
I so HATE Crytek

They turned against PC Gamers even though Crysis sold 3.5m to go kiss consolers BUTTS.

Now that Crysis 2 and 3 are CONSOLE sales FAILURES, Crytek is turning against the Consolers.

Crytek just GO AWAY....no one wants your Tech Demo's anymore!!!
zeddy  +   396d ago
if crytek were so good they would be making amazing looking games on 6 year old consoles like uncharted or god of war isntead of moaning its not powerful enough.
faysal  +   397d ago
who the hack do these people think they are? EA's puppies who barks on EA's command... only games they make is crysis and yet they have a big mouth like they control everything... with all these graphics POWAH!!! of cry engine they still cant sell more license then unreal. but hey have a big mouth like they are the king of devolopers.
N0S3LFESTEEM  +   397d ago
Crysis is the only game I know of that uses the cryengine... please inform me if there are others worth talking about.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   397d ago
http://www.giantbomb.com/cr...

Inb4 "They're not "AAA" Games so why should I care"
Conzul  +   397d ago
The upcoming Star Citizen by Chris Roberts is built upon the Cryengine, I believe.

CryEngine is a great engine but Crytek is wai tu proud of themselves. If they had existed 70 years ago, they would've all been like, "Vee vill build a wrocket komputer dat vill make a V2 reach Vashington! Ah-HAH HAH HAH AHA HAH!"
Bumpmapping  +   397d ago
Crytek=Second rate FPS developer
Ezz2013  +   397d ago
more like 3rd or 4th rate developer
the are trolling as always and still fail at it
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hiredhelp  +   397d ago
Looks at article headline thinks wtf then sees a name "CEO Cevat Yerli"
Enough said
The_Infected  +   397d ago
I hate you Crytek!!! :)
cleverusername  +   397d ago
Napoleon complex!
HOO-HAA  +   397d ago
They're pathetic, their game(s) might look nice but aren't much fun to play, Ubisoft took over their only other game Far Cry and improved it ten fold yet they talk like their some kind of industry leaders!!
Root  +   397d ago
They have turned into right arrogant b*******

Yeah you can produce some fancy graphics but the gameplay in Crysis 2 and Crysis 3 was average at best, the story was, the animations were etc

Maybe if they got their head out of Microsofts ass Crysis 2 and 3 could of been better.
Prcko  +   397d ago
Graphics,graphics and just graphics,WTF???
gief gameplay!!!!
LessThan2Tflops  +   397d ago
True but you making people butthurtt crytek
KwietStorm  +   397d ago
They're really tired now.
majiebeast  +   397d ago
Cevat Yerli do you ever shut up?
Rask  +   397d ago
Crytek puking bullshit, like usual.
rpd123  +   397d ago
It seems that Crytek doesn't understand how economics work. What is expensive today, will be cheap tomorrow. As technology develops, it becomes cheaper to produce and widely available to the public. Three years ago when they made that assumption, yes it was probably too expensive. But 5 or 6 years from now when we're gearing up for the next gen, it will not be. That's how stuff works.
Twinzclipz  +   397d ago
Crytak = All Graphic and Shitty Games
False-Patriot  +   397d ago
Please die already, Crytek.
gamepard  +   397d ago
Crytek you need to shut your mouth ...your work -Crysis games going from bad to worse (they are just like COD with extra effects) and the only thing that you present is cheap grafik effects ..presenting them as top quality products that using top notch of technology...in comparison with other companies which they really know how to program and develop game engines(Naughty D,Kojima pro, Capcom..)you are not even close ...
Scenarist  +   397d ago
ok so nobody likes crysis...

but nobody can deny that crysis looks good
and that Crytek.. knows how to make pretty graphics even if the gameplay sux

other than this being the CEO speaking.... crytek knows what they are talking about

I mean all over the internet people are already crying about how they dont want ?X?Console to be over XXPrice point ....

it makes sense to me ,,,,,its just asshole-ish for them to say it... regardless if its true or not
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CYBERHATER  +   397d ago
Shhh!!!! Crytek you are upsetting the console fanbase lol
Baka-akaB  +   397d ago
Not just them . I think ID and Epic needs to muster the will to truly comes back to PC and whip their sorry arses .

Crytek released two games of note that werent even well optimized for top pcs , they basically threw every available and took years to optimize them with patches or sequels . Crysis 2 -3 are basically their revised (and inferior) copies of Crysis 1 .

When ID and epid were leading the hardware war , they didnt just go brute force , they were actually optimizing their games and codes .
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Twinzclipz  +   397d ago
now i get it CRY tek
they are a bunch of whiners
landog  +   397d ago
considering these guys already make games on pc that look far better than anything ever will on ps4, its worth listening to what he has to say...i know it hurts your pride and you think the ps4 with its "8gb gddr5 browwwwskiiiii" will just be able to compete with a pc from 2012

your only fooloing youself

a single gtx 680 has more power than the entire ps4
dude is just saying to tone down your expectations

don't be suprised when you see games with lower than 1080p native res on the ps4, you'll still see jaggies, you'll only get 30 frames...some games will still have pop-in and short draw distance

again, the ps4 will be freaking awesome, its just not as powerful as people on here think it is

is it a giant leap above ps3/360

HECK YES!!

is it on par with a high end gaming pc from 2011....not even close!
Graphics doesn't make a good game. Crytek has done zero innovation for gaming. They just cut and paste what they have done in the past but with shinier graphics. They don't deserve any respect from gamers.
Skynetone  +   397d ago
a single gtx 680 has more power than the entire ps4

considering a gtx 680 cant do s++t by itself and costs around 500$, so your looking at 1000+ pc

1000+ console wont sell
cyclindk  +   397d ago
A 680 and what kind of CPU? MOBO? Memory? Add it up and then see if, at those components' respective releases, the figure you have will come close to comparing to even what a PS3 cost at release, not to mention optical drive, hard drive, and no PC will have ANY of the easy suspend and instant on functionality.

I'm just sayin...
DigitalRaptor  +   397d ago
@ landog

YET... the best games on PC look nowhere near as detailed and realistic as Crysis, and most games on PC don't make use of the hardware to the degree in which elitists suggest.

Maybe when Valve announces Half Life 3 and looks insanely good you'll have room to boast anything. Until then, Crysis and Crytek can go suck a nut.
BitbyDeath  +   397d ago
Killzone 4 looks better than Crysis 3 to me and this is just a launch title.

http://ps4on.com/wp-content...

http://www.velocitygamer.co...
xPhearR3dx  +   397d ago
lol no.
BitbyDeath  +   396d ago
Take a look at the images again and look at how much is going on in KZ pic, look at how smooth everything is in comparison to Crysis 3.

Sure the art styles are different but KZ comes out on top graphically.
cleverusername  +   397d ago
Does it need to be on par? HELL NO!!
Braid  +   397d ago
Oh come on... Enough with the "Crysis blows everything PS4 could do" talk.

Look, I'm a PC gamer myself. I have a decent gaming rig, played Crysis 2 with all the mods you can imagine, with HD texture packs. Played Crysis 3 at max settings @1080p. I've always been a fan of Crysis myself (well, up until 3 came out, that game is really just a tech demo, my favorite is still Crysis 2) and I really do believe that anyone who thinks or says Killzone Shadow Fall looks WORSE than Crysis 3 knows absolutely NOTHING about video game graphics. It's a far more technically superior game for reasons I won't even bother to list, as it shouldn't be even up to debate.

Crytek programs gorgeous looking games, but "better than next gen?" I mean, do you even listen to what you say: what'll happen when Crytek releases their TRUE next-gen game, unlike Crysis 3 which was released for current-gen consoles as well? What'll happen when it looks absolutely A LOT better than Crysis 3? Is that game truly "next-gen" then? Some people don't even know what they're implying when they say Crysis 3 is more next-gen than any PS4 game can be. That's possibly the wrongest statement you can make from the technical standpoint.

Next-gen is NOT solely about good looking textures and a couple of DirectX 11 features. You'll be surprised to see what developers can do with that so-called low end PC hardware of PS4's. Killzone Shadow Fall itself should be proof enough.
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N0S3LFESTEEM  +   397d ago
OH THE DISAGREE'S... I bet you most people are reading that first paragraph not knowing your responding to someone else, or it could be your following statement "a single gtx 680 has more power than the entire ps4" which if taken literally all I can say is have fun trying to game on it without anything else :p. Processors, MB, Ram... PSSSSSSSSSH WHO FUCKIN NEEDS THEM WHEN I HAVE ALL THE GRAFIXS.

Being serious though... I doubt people with top end rigs are worrying at all right now. Consoles are playing catch-up this time around simply because it wouldn't be financially sound releasing a console that could compete with a top-tier computer. PC hardware is at a different level then it was when PS3 and X360... sure there is better tech than whats going to appear in the new consoles but that tech also comes with a much much higher price tag.

One I gladly paid for XD... screw waiting for better graphics.
sdozzo  +   397d ago
Yawn. It's all cut up quotes.
gpturbo81  +   397d ago
the ego on this prick...
cyclindk  +   397d ago
The prick on this prick... Must be tiny and he's trying to compensate with teh graphix.
KillrateOmega  +   397d ago
Doesn't Yerli ever shut up? Honestly, every other week this guy has something to say...

Your graphical track record is impressive, yes, but there is MUCH to be desired when it comes to the other aspects of your games.
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gamernova  +   397d ago
Crytek is pure benchmarking software hahaha
Prcko  +   397d ago
true dat
Bakkies  +   397d ago
If Denis Dyack and Peter Molyneux had a son, it would be Cevat Yerli.
cyclindk  +   397d ago
Actually it would be Penis Erlineux, but Cevat is close enough.
extermin8or  +   397d ago
Even if they are right the way they make this statement shows just how far up their own arse they are. Their games aren't even that great...Imean Crysis 3 is a decent shooter but it's not the best (It looks great on my pc but even so I still prefer a quirkier more innovative shooter like resistance 3 to it.) And all the fuss people make about crysis 1, ell I have it on mypc, and it plays in ultra and tbh I don't see the fuss at the time it would have looked amazing but it hasn't aged that well and yeah the graphics are all very nice etc- but the gameplay is boring as fuck and seems to lack any real direction-maybe it's because im yet to bother playing too far into it?
DigitalSmoke  +   397d ago
After Crysis 1 they didn't make anything remotely interesting.
They shouldn't use brovado at all.
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