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Tomb Raider vs. Uncharted: The Comparison We Had To Make

It can be a bit difficult to talk about the new Tomb Raider without also talking about Uncharted. Naughty Dog's PS3 series has always had a lot of Tomb Raider in its DNA, and Crystal Dynamics' new Lara Croft adventure has clearly been taking notes from Uncharted.

The_Infected1145d ago

They're both good. Uncharted still had better graphics and a better story IMO. Tomb Raider has great gameplay and good graphics also. Both are great IMO and you can't go wrong with either one.

BigStef711145d ago

This is what someone commented on Kotaku:
"I think Tomb Raider COMPLETELY blows away Uncharted. It's my GOTY for 2013 so far, and I don't see it getting beaten. It's just so badass in so many ways, it makes Uncharted look like Sesame Street.

The super dark, gritty world REALLY blew me away. I'm at the part where I just got knocked off the bridge into a certain "river" if you know what I mean. SO AWESOME!!!!! Man ... this is the darkest game I've played in a long time.

The bow, and pretty much all the combat blows away Uncharted. The dodging, the stealth takedowns, the counter kills, the cover system, the animations during crouching stealth and combat, all far better! The axe is awesome. The rope arrows are totally awesome. The jumping is far better, and allows you more control - including air control.

Drake really comes off like a clown, and I've always hated that in Uncharted, and I never liked his character. Lara though is just totally serious and really is on par with Rambo at times. It's just no comparison for me.

I have no doubt Tomb Raider will blow away Last of Us as well.

And yeah, Tomb Raider has a lot more content too. I feel like I've been playing for a while now and I think I'm 42% in. GOTY for me easily."

Sounds like a pretty arrogant comment to me.They basically call Uncharted a kiddie game and they say this game already blows The Last of Us away which hasn't even been released. It's ignorance I guess

classic2001145d ago

The person who wrote that surely as never ever played uncharted and surely does not own a PS3, that is like hating on system shock with bioshock.

In fact I think that person is a casual xbox 360 owner, tomb raider is good but bisoshock, the last of us and watch dogs are so far on a different level right now.

Also please note I said casual because even a core xbox gamers would have common sense to know tomb raider cannot win goty of those games. Nost xbox gamers will say watch dogs or bioshock infinite.

Root1145d ago

People really want Lara to be back on top again that's why people are like that...

It makes me think do some people not play Uncharted because they are bitter over the fact Uncharted has beaten Tomb Raider. You know those obsessed TR fangirls who are full of nostalgia.

LOGICWINS1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

"It makes me think do some people not play Uncharted because they are bitter over the fact Uncharted has beaten Tomb Raider."

This comment is just as arrogant as the Uncharted looks like Sesame Street one.

OT: It's all opinion based. Tomb Raider if you want a semi-realistic emotional survival experience and Uncharted if you want a popcorn action film with better characters/writing than most films.

Either way, I already know most of the people here will blindly say that Uncharted is the better game(for obvious reasons that we all know), so theres really no point in arguing this any further...on N4G of all places where the preponderance of the community think/act similarly.

vickers5001144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

"better characters/writing than most films."

Highly disagree with you there. Uncharteds writing and characters are pretty much just on par or equal to most films.

I know I'm going to get disagreed to hell with what I'm about to say, but I'll say it anyway(oh and by the way, I haven't played Tomb Raider, so don't take this as a comparison and start saying "well tomb radier isn't as good blah blah").

Uncharted is overrated. Nobody in Uncharted has any real unique characteristics that exist only in Uncharted. In fact they're characteristics that are found quite commonly in movies and tv. Drake the wisecracking average joe hero, Elena the sweet/kind love interest who knows how to handle herself in a fight, Chloe the mysterious former love interest who isn't really a law abiding citizen, Sully the old perv/mentor who always has something creepy yet funny to say.

Those character archetypes have been done to death in tv and movies. It's not a terribly bad thing, but it certainly doesn't merit as much praise as it gets (in my opinion).

But don't mistake this comment as a dislike for the franchise. I like Uncharted. I've beat all 3 ps3 games (Platinum'd the second game even). Uncharted beats out every other game in terms of cinematics and cinematic gameplay, and graphics. It's the best action flick style franchise there is.

BUT, it's JUST that. People speak as if it has the best characters/writing/story in any game ever, but it doesn't. There's no real deep emotion to the game. It's a "fun", a charming game with light hearted spirit, but not a deep game. It doesn't make you think, it doesn't make you feel, other than a tiny few moments that don't really matter all that much (u3 improved quite a lot on this by showing drake as a kid though, I did like that). I wouldn't usually complain about these things if it were any other game, but I feel as though I have to when I see this game get so much praise on the elements it's simply AVERAGE at (story,characters).

The Last of Us looks to be much better though. Two people, both who have lost probably many people who were important to them, trying to survive in a world where most human beings have lost their humanity (both figuratively and literally), now that's what a deep story is and what great characters are.

It's a more human story, a story you care about more than "wisecracking hero looks for treasure, unnecessarily kills a bunch of 'bad guys' (despite the fact that he could simply just go home at any point, he doesn't NEED to find treasure and kill hundreds of people, he just chooses to because he thinks the treasure is worth a few hundred dead people, which is why I can't really 'like' Drake, and no, it's not really self defense when he intentionally and unnecessarily puts himself in a situation he doesn't need to be in) and ends up saving the world as a side effect.

LOGICWINS1144d ago

Vickers, just to be clear, when I say better characters/writing than most films, I should have specified ACTION films. Uncharted's characters ARE archetypes, but those archetypes are done much better than most action/adventure films.

As far as character emotion and story depth, Uncharted will never be able to stand with games like Mass Effect/Ni No Kuni etc.

Rainstorm811144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

The funniest thing is the DEVELOPERS said they used Uncharted as inspiration for Tomb Raider 2013. It's only history repeating itself as Uncharted was inspired by Tomb Raider 1995. (Google Dude Raider ?)

But clearly Uncharted has been the better series this generation......Tomb raider was irrelevant majority of this gen with its subpar games but I'm glad they finally got in back on track with this one.

It's funny to see people down talk Nathan Drake's character, IMO he's ONE OF the FEW characters in gaming to that feels real...... Character wise he's a digital Indiana Jones for goodness sake.

Also that poster was so happy that Tomb Raider is Dark and Gritty.....IMO that's not always good, it sucked for the Dark Knight Rises and it would suck if Indiana Jones had that tone......Dark and Gritty isn't for everything, if Uncharted was Dark and Gritty it would be Gears of War

Edit @ Logic
Well if Uncharted was a RPG I'm sure they could obtain that amount of emotion and depth but its a 8 hr action game vs 30+ hr RPGs.

LOGICWINS1144d ago

"Well if Uncharted was a RPG I'm sure they could obtain that amount of emotion and depth but its a 8 hr action game vs 30+ hr RPGs."

Emotion can easily be pulled off in 3-10 hour experiences. Spec Ops: The Line, The Walking Dead, and Journey are good examples. Uncharted games are great because they rarely do anything wrong, but I can't say that I was ever emotionally connected to Drake. He's a good character, but I've never "cared" for him as I would a human.

Joegrine201144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

Lara is Rambo. But Drake is a One man walking nuclear bomb with a touch of batman at the side. You juss cannot kill Drake. The guy even fought off a whole pirate crew. Damn Drake u Scary!

LOGICWINS1144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

^^Thats part of the reason why Drake is hard to connect to. It's the same reason why people don't like Superman anymore. He seems so invincible to the point that he has no vulnerability. You can't care for/relate to a character if you think he/she is unstoppable.

Rainstorm811144d ago

I disagree Logic nearly every game the main character is a walking death machine including Tomb Raider.

Some of the most popular games are about invincible protagonists Halo and CoD... That invincible feeling goes over to the multiplayer when it comes to CoD

MysticStrummer1144d ago

A gritty tale of survival... where the main character's health regenerates. Right.

Irishguy951144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

I'm finding Tomb Raider much better too. Mostly due to the gameplay and grittiness(as that comment said, every single thing in TR gameplay is just...done very well, the little bit of openness, the bow/rope/fire and environment, the gun play is excellent etc etc). The story too has me more involved and more caring of what is happening, although Uncharteds writing and characters are far superior but the overall plot and setting of TR is superior too. I'd almost always take a good story over good writing myself.(MGS3 = best of both worlds/my favorite game)

I can't wait to see what ND do with the Last of Us because I feel like this game just kinda came out of nowhere and gave us what the last of Us promised to give. Except for one thing, LoU will have survival elements which I like alot.

Anyhow, Tomb Raider completely destroyed my expectations, I thought it would be nothing but a devious Uncharted clone...but the additions to the gameplay have really set it apart from Uncharted imo

Edit-- I'm a bit shocked to see Uncharted fans pull out the whole review thing again. Yes. GTA4 has a high Meta score. So it's better than both of them. Right? No. No it's not. Awards and reviews really mean **** all. Tomb Raider will not will nearly as many awards...do you know why? It has other amazing games to compete with this year. LoU, Bioshock etc...Uncharted 2 didn't have much to compete with did it?

Seriously, people only trust reviews when it suits their argument. And if the new God of War recieves a lower average and is considered the worst god of war to date - Reviews are wrong.

Autodidactdystopia1144d ago

which system are you guys basing your graphics judgement on?

I just finished a playthrough this on ma pay cee and I think this is one of the better looking games ever made letalone better than uncharted. but i think that might be highly conditional. cause this game seems to shine in certain lighting conditions and almost fail in others
Overall liked the game. plain and simple. I also liked uncharted but in a different way.

both games have artifacts that you can view upclose with the sticks/triggers. in that respect uncharted artifacts look much better and have much better shaders.

ame221144d ago

It's Kotaku, I wouldn't bother at this point.

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colonel1791144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

I don't care which game is better. In my opinion both are good, but I liked Lara more than I liked Drake. Drake is great when he is with Elena and Sully, more than by himself.

What it's fantastic about Tomb Raider though, is the controls. The game just plays beautifully. There are things to improve, and certainly they will (unless they ruin them like Guerrilla did with Killzone 2's perfect controls for KZ3) Anyways, Lara always did what I wanted her to do in the game. Not once did a button not respond well or messed up a jump or a shot due to the controller. The aiming was perfect. I moved the sensitivity up to 8 and it was amazing. Everytime I used the bow, I did headshots, and there wasn't any auto aim, or aim assist (at least not noticeable at all).

I am very eager to know what Naught Dog will do with Uncharted on PS4. Surely the graphics will be amazing even if they launch it early, but I wonder how they will respond to Tomb Raider. They know and are aware of the success that Tomb Raider is having, and as long as both try to outdo each other, we all gamers win.

showtimefolks1144d ago

Uncharted took inspiration from Indiana Jones and tomb raider but it built up the UC series to where tomb raider never got quality wise. Uncharted 2 IMO is one of the best looking game and overall one of the top 3 games of this gen

this new reboot for tomb raider is a good first step but there is room for huge improvements, story is pretty mediocre, but i am hopeful for next games in the series that aspect will see huge improvements.

i like both but my favorite is Uncharted, not because of the game so much as its made by ND who IMO are the best development house in business

enjoy both, instead of having 1 great game now we have 2 so nothing to complain about just play and enjoy

EbeneezerGoode1144d ago

Actually as a big fan of UC I found UC3 starting to get a bit dull, and TR beats it in gameplay!

Also graphics. While obviously uncharted looks very special as Naughty Dog can push the system well, I find the overall art direction in TR to be stunning places, beautifully detailed and lovingly crafted. UC3 seems a bit more 'fake' in comparison. All shiny prefabs. Tomb raider does nature much better.

Gunplay is a lot better in Uncharted though, they have the cover system down well.

Story? The overall plot is better in Uncharted but the immersion is better in TR because it feels more visceral and weighty. Darker.

Overall I can say I much preferred TR to UC3, but Uncharted 2 was amazing so I'd have to give them both a 9/10.

Mr Tom Braider has more emotion too, I actually felt so bad for (SPOILER...................... .......)

One of the mad guys in the 'cells' in the geothermal caves asking to be killed. I shot him with a flame arrow and actually felt sorry for him and relief - don't think I've ever felt that in a game before. It was just well crafted and immersive enough to make me feel it.

..............

Though I do spot the UC rip offs throughout TR - mainly the climbing up dangling pieces of wrecks with mad camera angles (like UC2's opening).

I find TR has a more cohesive and fun to explore/less linear (far less linear) environment and seems more current than UC does.

Can't wait for both sequels on PS4 but uncharted REALLY needs to back off the scripted events and 'cinematics' and go back to good old fashioned interaction - UC3 was a bridge too far for me - got boring in too many places.

andibandit1144d ago

Tomb Raider blows any game out of the water, it's just that amazing.

Kurt Russell1144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

I'm looking forward to trying it out. Not sure why people argue over comparisons of Uncharted and Tomb Raider. I originally bought Uncharted because I've always loved Tomb Raider games... I was not disappointed, now I will try Tomb Raider again, I'm sure I will not be disappointed still.

mistertwoturbo1144d ago

I've been playing it on PC and it's good, but nowhere near as enjoyable as Uncharted for me. Uncharted has that witty charm and the story is just better presented. That and the game play complements how the story progresses.

And I'm really turned off by the extreme unnecessary almost God of War levels of violence in this Tomb Raider game. I mean... really? Did they really have to make Lara die in those ways? It's just a little out of place IMO.

TechnicianTed1144d ago

' I mean... really? Did they really have to make Lara die in those ways?'

Sorry but the way Lara dies is true to the series roots. It was possible to have Lara killed in loads of different and quite horrible ways in the original.

mistertwoturbo1144d ago

^Oh well I suppose, I never really was into the series anyway. The only Tomb Raider I vaguely remember playing is the one on PS1 lol.

But don't get me wrong, like I said the game is really good and there is a lot to like. It's just I didn't like the extreme violence in my adventure games.

I'm sure if Nathan Drake fell down a pit and got sliced up into bits or goes around and stabs arrows in peoples eyes I'd be turned off too.

Danja1144d ago

Lets be real

Uncharted 2 has Tomb Raider beat

BUT

Tomb Raider >>>> Uncharted 3 and 1

Uncharted 3 is one of the most overrated games of this generation.

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ritsuka6661145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

I think that Tomb Raider is a more refined game, with far, far better writing and overall narrative but MY GOD, the level design in Tomb Raider is frankly fantastic. It's not a full Metroid-vania experience but I love how large and open ended the levels feel.

PSVita1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

I haven't played it yet but people shouldn't pretend like this game would be around if uncharted wasn't so successful. It came out after the entire UC trilogy, id hope id be better in someway.

LOGICWINS1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

Uncharted 2 raised the bar for the action/adventure genre. Thats unquestionable. However, that doesn't take anything away from Tomb Raider. Your SUPPOSED to look at the best and find ways to improve upon the formula and make it your own.

I don't see anything wrong with that personally.

Every platformer in existence wouldn't be around if it weren't for Mario, but does that take anything away from gems like Outland or Closure?

PSVita1144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

@logicwins I agree 100%. I see nothing wrong with taking something and adding/fixing it to make it better. I remember the original tomb raiders and they were good but seeing how great UC2 came out defiantly inspired the devs in some way. Drake wasnt the first treasure hunter ever so ND got the idea from some where too but their take on the series it was pretty original. I'm glad to see that both are doing well either way.

Btw my first comment wasn't directed @rit. I came to here to read about TR but most the comments are just bashing UC for some reason.

Root1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

"So we go from Tomb Raider to Uncharted back to Tomb Raider. The circle is complete"

Not really because in my opinion Tomb Raider, despite being a good game still didn't scratch the surface of something like Uncharted 3 or even Uncharted 2.

I don't see anything which the new Tomb Raider did better....if your going to say "Well she can explore more...she has more freedom" then I'm sorry but that's not something ND was going for anyway with Uncharted.

I don't even feel like Uncharted copied Tomb Raider, it was trying to be a movie and it's obviously ND copied Indiana Jones more then Tomb Raider. The things people compared between the two is that they are both treasure hunters and that the platforming is similar but you can't do realistic platforming any other way so of course Drakes platforming is going to look like Tomb Raiders, same goes with Prince of Persia's or Assassins Creed, they are realistic games, not like they can double jump.

"that Naughty Dog decided it was worth digging into his backstory. And, to be honest, I wasn't all that interested even when they did."

What you don't want to know about Drakes past....why, it's one of the many un answered things in Uncharted. Drake is a complete mystery but with Lara we know her backstory, hell it's been changed three times and we still know it.

"Yes! Or, well, I've spent more time shooting people than raiding tombs, but, you know."

Oh Patricia...even when you havent played the old games you actually think thats what you call raiding tombs in the new games. You don't even raid any in the main story, they are optional and the puzzles are easy as hell. If you actually played the old ones I bet you would think very differently.

I hate Kotaku but Patricia is so out of touch with most games, she was the one that started that thing about Sony being sexist because they had no women at the PS4 reveal show

"Patricia: Oh, are some people saying it's not a Tomb Raider game? Wow."

Yet you've said this...

"Ah, that's interesting. This is actually my first Tomb Raider, so I've never experienced the franchise as it used to be!"

So don't call people when you don't know what were going on about.

Hufandpuf1145d ago

Yeah, Patricia is a little out of touch in this article. I hate when they interview people with no past experience, but I guess she was the only other person in their office that beat the game.

Root1145d ago

She's always out of touch, she must of joined recently since I've never seen her on the site before but she seems like someone they've desperetly hired.

Seriously why hire people like her if they don't know anything about games

I thought he was old but apparently she's 22...older then me and she's never played the old TR games. Come on...

WrAiTh Sp3cTr31145d ago

Root...you sound bitter but that's just my opinion. You call someone out of touch but you claim Tomb Raider doesn't scratch the surface of what the UC series has done. That sorta comment makes me think you're the one out of touch. I know there are a lot of UC fans, I've been a fan before it was even popular, but people can have their opinions just like you but does it call for insulting people and then turn around stooping to their level to which you think you are above? My point is both franchises are great and as it stands neither would be where they're at without the other. But your opinion isn't the end all be all so stop acting like it.

Root1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

@WrAiTh Sp3cTr3

How the hell am I "stooping to her level"....what because I said she sounds out of touch....which she is. She even said she never played the old games so there's the evidence to back that up.

Oh and it makes me out of touch because I said the new TR dosen't scratch the surface of Uncharted 2. It doesn't, it's my opinion, it tried to copy Uncharted instead of being it;s own game. Least I've actually played on the old games

Oh and I don't get how I sound bitter, I'm just getting sick of this debate when some people make it out it's better then Uncharted 2 when it's not. I love the game but it has it's faults. Hell I even found Uncharted 3 more enjoyable, it even had a good online that I would play more on then TR so there's a bonus.

I never make it out that my opinion is "the end all be" so just stop it....your being immature and trying to pick a fight. Probably why you only have two bubbles so I;m not surprised.

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Lvl_up_gamer1145d ago (Edited 1145d ago )

Both are great. Uncharted 2 is my favorite of the series but I found myself really enjoying Tomb Raider more. I felt it had a much more mature tone and was more interested in Lara's Story then I was in Drake's.

Graphics wise I still give the edge to Uncharted but Tomb Raider is still a fantastically looking game with some set pieces that were just amazing. For example when Lara slowly raises her head from the river of blood. Too awesome for words.

Bottom line, Tomb Raider was a much more enjoyable game and story for me.

KEEPNITREAL1144d ago

I agree %100 agree with you, I love my Uncharted games , but somethings about this Tombraider game made me enjoy it more. The bad thing is you can't say it here at N4G cause of those sony fanboys will eat you up .For them nothing in this world is better than Sony this and Sony that. As for me I don't care I say it like I see it !! Afterall it's just a damn opinion !! I do expect Uncharted 4 to be in a different level that's for sure , but let's see.

dalibor1144d ago (Edited 1144d ago )

You can say what ever you want to say here on N4G. We all have a voice and it should be heard so long as it's in good constructed manner I would assume. I still haven't played the new Tomb Raider but I probably would like it as well because it's a new adventure, similar to how every entry of the Uncharted franchise was a new journey and I for one definitely enjoyed it. And who knows U4 might take some elements from the TR game and vice versa, I think as long as the game is fun to play there's no harm in that. Game on!