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Xbox 720 Permanent Connection Only the Beginning? Ian Livingstone Talks the Future With No Box

"When it first came around that the Xbox 720 might require an always online internet connection that would help prevent the sale of used games. As our interview with Eidos Life President shows however, that could just be the beginning."

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GribbleGrunger1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

I agree with Livingstone, it IS 'inevitable'. I would say that Gaikai is a much bigger step towards that goal than 'always on' though. In fact I wouldn't even count 'always on' as a step towards it at all. I'd say that 'always on' is more an attempt to stymie the second hand market, whilst Gaikai is an attempt to REPLACE the second hand market. And of course we don't even know if the 720 will actually have the 'always on' feature.

classic2001142d ago

Gaikai pretty much will be a good way to play games you don't really want to own in the form of rental but I am really happy sony is making the PS4 design that if your downloading a game we can play it as it continues to download.

In the end I do think buying games from stores might end one day, but the whole always online should never be apart of any console though.

when my internet is down I should be able to play all my games located on my hard drives.

GribbleGrunger1142d ago

I totally agree with you that we should be able to play games offline, but unfortunately the industry has it's sights set on other priorities and that's why GamingTV is inevitable.

darthv721142d ago

is there a difference between a constant internet connection that runs throughout my home and my ps vita doing a verification check before i play a game?

does that count as always on? I mean, just this morning i went to play motorstorm RC and it did this connection check and told me there was an update, I played without the update but it did this check before i played.

Is that what Ms is rumored to be doing to games? In my situation, I wasnt playing my game online but it went online to verify before it let me play in offline mode.

i think, since the inclusion of internet connectivity on the original xbox, there was always going to be the eventual "connected console" down the line. Be it with wires or wireless, if you have internet and you have your system connected to the internet your system now has the ability to be always on when it comes to being connected to the internet.

It does not mean you are always using it though. The used game thing, could be like what the vita does for me. It takes a few seconds just to verify and then lets you play. If the used game does not pass verification it would likely prompt you but if you disconnect your system from the internet, it cant verify any new content and should still allow for total offline play.

Just a guess.

Ron_Danger1142d ago

@darth

The reason that the vita connects online whenever you start a game that has an online component is because the Vita doesn't connect in the background like the PS3 or 360. If you have PS+, all games automatically update when patches come out. And if you dont know, after you install any update, if you touch and hold the home screen for a few seconds you can click on the games and see what the update does.

BitbyDeath1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

'Always online' might be a Kinect push. (Kinect always on)
I wouldn't rule out the new Kinect right now, i'm thinking it will surprise a lot of people.

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Godmars2901142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

MS can't go with always online. If its true that little more than more than half of all 360s are currently online, then that about half their install base gone. Actively alienated.

The other rumor, the cable box rumor, isn't going to help them either. It might make up the loss of former 360 owners, give the 720 a Wii-like boost in sales, but are people really going to switch out their old cable boxes for a game console/DVR which will likely carry additional charges?

@GribbleGrunger:
But they already know that the US alone can't support the Xbox.

And of course if they go with the always on via cable/internet provider its going to be specific providers and run into regional issues. Maybe they've cleared up issues like BBC licensing fees, but this has to start them all over again.

GribbleGrunger1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

Yes, for those very same reasons I have my doubts about the rumours. The only way I can square it in any meaningful way is to 'assume' that MS are going to try and capitalise on the American market and let other markets take care of themselves. I can imagine them being able to persuade Americans to buy into the idea of always on simply because the 720 is an American product and MS will throw billions at the advertising, but outside of America it's a hard sell.

This is pure speculation but I believe it's worth considering: Is MS about to consolidate all of it's resources and aim squarely at the American market? We'll see, but IF the rumours are true, that's the ONLY way I can see this being a viable strategy ... but even then it's risky (unless Windows 8 becomes the 720s focus and the 720 is merely one other delivery mechanism to promote it.)

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GribbleGrunger1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

@Godmars:

"And of course if they go with the always on via cable/internet provider its going to be specific providers and run into regional issues. Maybe they've cleared up issues like BBC licensing fees, but this has to start them all over again."

This why I think it's the only possible answer IF it's true. They'll struggle to get the cable support in other countries but they CAN 'possibly' lock it down in America. It depends entirely on whether MS believe they can gain more sales in America by going this route, and so offset any losses elsewhere.

@Olgero: If that was referring to me, Thank you ... if it wasn't then I apologise for being presumptuous :)

Godz Kastro1142d ago

Dude, my xbox360 is my cable box right now. Additional charges? I save by not renting a receiver. I only have 1 box under my tv that does everything.

miDnIghtEr20C_SfF1141d ago (Edited 1141d ago )

@GodzCastro...

My friend does the same with his box. He has no cable, yet pays for xbox live, does all his tv watching on hulu and other video apps on the 360. His one box does everything as well for the price of Live.

Not only does his paying to play online with gold get him to play online games, it gives him tv and moves as well. We think of it as Xbox Live +.

While we pay 3 bucks a month to play our online MP portions of the game, at added bonus for free we have party chats with movie watching and tv show watching and many many extra apps... all for paying 3 bucks a month for MP. It's such nice extras to have.

Bigpappy1141d ago

I love rumors for 1 primary reason: They force me to watch the reveal to see what the fact really are. It is also entertaining to read comments were people take them as some official announcement. M$ is not stupid. There are in this to get as many customers as possible.

Godmars2901141d ago

@Bigpappy:
Thing about MS, the general current state of business, if there are any negatives, they aren't going to bring them up during the announcement. With something like always on if true they'll have spin-doctors in place before its finally admitted to.

People w/o online are going to wind up buying it, be unable to return it, then talked into going in on a cable deal regardless of what their local service is like.

Mike134nl1141d ago

Next gen consoles will go always online and thus always connected to social media, the cloud and other devices. Not connecting your next gen consoles means losing a large number of advertised options and functionality.

the xbox Cable box rumor if handled and implemented well could become a 'console seller' for casual gamers. Not entering this market and leaving it open for an apple (ios) or google (play) tv box would be a missed chance. On that note I would love to see one or both of the next gen consoles to open their doors to google play (not likely).

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MYSTERIO3601142d ago

If the recent launch of Simcity and Diablo 3 are anything to go by its that permanent connection causes more problems then it solves.

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blue_flowers1142d ago (Edited 1142d ago )

i dont mind always online for games that NEED it, nor do i mind digital retail. i prefer certain games as digital downloads out of convenience of not having to swap discs. what i dont like is the idea of not being able to play single player games offline, that absolutely needs to remain unaffected, or else why would i buy any games if i dont really "own" them outside of the digital space, or have a constant way of playing them? its not practical at all to have all games tied to online connectivity or only offered as digital releases. and if i cant buy second hand games, most $60 full retail titles will never see my cash then. i haven't bought more than one game above $40 since 2007, the exception being both Fallout games, Halo games, and Skyrim. i will simply hold out for price drops and always play catch up next generation if used games go the way of the dinosaur. and dlc, i haven't bought more than around $120 of DLC all generation, which is basically Halo map packs and some other random stuff.

aquamala1142d ago

I don't see it happening unless preventing used games can make third party developers want to make games exclusively on the next Xbox, which I don't see happening.

DivineAssault 1142d ago

If nxbox does do "always on" feature just to play anything, they will be digging their own grave.. Some ppl will buy it of course but nowhere near as many as this gen.. Theres a lot of people without internet & or poor internet connections so they wont like this at all..

Gildarts1142d ago

Exactly I hate this rumor. If you think Microsoft will go through with this, you are completely nuts.

Sony filed a patent for blocking used games back in 2012 November I think. They said the PS4 won't block them.

I didn't see any patent from Microsoft.

1nsaint1142d ago

I know what you mean, i got a good internet connection, but sometimes it just drops out for like 20 secs, probably something with the cable..

It already sucks when it happens during a multiplayer match.
But if the game would stop playing because of a disconnect or some data loss while in singleplayer i would really be pissed.

Im not gonna buy an 720 till i hear it's gonna be backward compatible with both discs and marketplace content, and dont have always online.

If not, MS can suck my dick

Gimmemorebubblez1142d ago

One day there might be a Playstation Channel on your TV.

KwietStorm1142d ago

There already is. Its called HDMI on mine.

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