The strained relationship between EA and Nintendo means that Battlefield 4 is unlikely to see release on the Wii U.
I doubt Nintendo fans are worried about BF4
I also doubt they expect games like this on the wiiu.
Well, if BLOPS2 on the WiiU is anything to go by then, you're right.
except we don't care much for that game. Well I don't.
I've been plays blops2 the last week. Its a very solid game.
True Besides why would EA want to dumb down Battlefield 4 just for the Wii U when they can make better versions for the PS4 and Nextbox
I have to agree with root on this the wii-u userbase wont be interested in BF4 and PS4 and new xbox version would be far superior anyway and will have way more gamers online playing it.
Exactly, I mean if they do a port after the PS4/Nextbox versions come out then fair enough they can tweak it to suit the specs of the Wii U but I don't want it to get in the way of pushing the PS4s and Nextboxs new specs. I don't see why people are surprised about this though, we all knew the Wii U was going to be weaker and that third party support would drop once either PS4 or Nextbox was announced first
You do know that the majority of the Wii U's userbase is hardcore gamers right?(One of the main reason it has such low sales is because they failed to advertise to the average consumer).
Yeah, because they never dumbed it down just for the PS3 / Xbox 360, dragging down the PC version. Never.
@deafdani Dragging the PC version down for consoles versions isn't really the same as one console dragging down another. The PC isn't really a console is it, more like a platform.
EDIT: Never mind. You addressed the issue when replying to deafdani.
@Root "The PC isn't really a console is it, more like a platform." What? More like a platform? They are all are "platforms". When you develop something you don't ask: "Do we go for platform or console?" No you ask "Which platform will we be developing for?" Which includes all. From PC to consoles to mobile phones ( and embedded systems too ). Please refrain from saying stupid stuff like you just did. It isn't helping your case.
sidar, that is true. The Problem really lies in the fact we have console fanboys who would rather focus all of their attention of those systems instead. So that they can blame one console for not allowing the other to get fully exploited which further escalates the console wars. We've seen many PC games come to the console and be dumbed down so to speak (easier and more mainstream), and we've also seen PC versions far eclipse (technically) the console versions of multiplat games all the time. Yet some want to continue to blame everything on a console that may not be as strong as the other for why the multiplat isn't as good. And again most times it's to continue to fuel the console wars. Think of it like music files. The PC would be the equivalent to the lossless format (flac, APE, ALAC) while the consoles would be the equivalent to lossy formats (MP3, AAC). So what we have are a bunch of console fanboys arguing over which lossy format is better.
I don't know. Why did EA dumb down Battlefield 3 from the PC version for current consoles???
Root: ALL of them, consoles or PC, are gaming platforms. All are able to receive their own version of any given game. So, yeah, it is actually exactly the same. It's a fact that the inferior power of the PS3 and Xbox 360 affected the PC version of Battlefield games (which still remained superior all the same). So, ignoring that, but calling the Wii U out exactly for the same reason, is an awful case of double standards. Accept it, or you are an hypocrite, plain and simple.
People are totaly missing the point here Why do people keep bringing PCs up, were talking about consoles not PCs. You can use that excuse on nearly every game out there if you wanted. Theres more of an audience on consoles thats why EA decided to dumb Battlefield down and not take advantage of the PC, it's why a lot of games don't take advantage of the PC, why do you think we get so many "PC gaming is dying" articles because developers want more money. As I've said it's not as bad dumbing a PC game down for consoles then one console dumbing another console game down even more.
Root "People are totaly missing the point here" Other way around. You're making it seem like the PC shouldn't be relevant when it is. "Why do people keep bringing PCs up, were talking about consoles not PCs. You can use that excuse on nearly every game out there if you wanted." And we will. Just because you're just focused on consoles doesn't mean everyone should be. "Theres more of an audience on consoles thats why EA decided to dumb Battlefield down and not take advantage of the PC, it's why a lot of games don't take advantage of the PC, why do you think we get so many "PC gaming is dying" articles because developers want more money." So when the audience is larger on smartphones then what? EA didn't dumb down Battlefield. In fact Battlefield 3 showed just how far behind consoles were at the time. The game barely ran at 30fps on the Xbox 360 and the PS3 and could only support so many players online. Meanwhile on the PC gamers could get well above 30fps and go beyond 1080p, all while supporting more gamers online. Yet you want to argue about the discrepancies of the power between the Xbox 360 and the PS3? Give me a break. "As I've said it's not as bad dumbing a PC game down for consoles then one console dumbing another console game down even more. " Why don't you just come clean and say what you want to say. That is you felt the PS3 underperformed because of the Xbox 360 and now you're worried about the PS4 maybe being slightly more powerful again than the rumored next Xbox. You make it sound like the PS3 was way more powerful when it wasn't. The Wii was way less powerful and the Xbox 360 and PS3 did not suffer because of the Wii. What you had was the PC being the top dog while the PS3 and Xbox 360 were very close (if you installed the game on the hard drive for the Xbox 360) while the Wii lagged behind. Which is the way it was supposed to be. So if you want the best version you should have supported the PC and not worry about how the PS3 may have been dumbed down because of the Xbox 360. We've seen games on the PS3 be the lead platform from EA like Burnout Paradise, are you really going to tell everyone it was night and day from the Xbox 360? lol I imagine next gen multiplat titles will be close again on the PS4 and next Xbox and I'm sure you'll think the next Xbox will be holding it back again. The question is did you care during the PS2 era that the Xbox was quite a bit more powerful? Doubtful. http://www.eurogamer.net/ar... No wonder you don't want to talk about the PC.
@NYC that's above the point,if can run on the wiiu then there shouldn't be reason not to support it.
Exactly? Why do people think a particular console fanbase don't want a certain genre of game? That's stupid and makes no sense? If the Wii U can perform tasks that the PS360 aren't capable of doing then I say EA should make a U version. In fact, that would be an honor to have U version. I think its clear EA isn't going for the install bases of of current gen consoles. As for Nintendo, they need all the third party games they can get. The problem with Nintendo is they'e made a system that competes against PS360 and not with future consoles. The second problem is obviously third party games getting on board with Nintendo. Nintendo, MS and now Sony are playing tug of war with third party it'll be very interesting to see what happens at E3 this year.
im no worried about battlefield 4 wii u? whos the judge of this you? really with people would stop putting all nitnendo fans in 1 pot. there are some that buy only nintendo games, there are some that only buy call of duty & battle type games, then there are those of us who buy both. i want battle field for on wii u. besides we haven't seen full potential of wii u yet so why do some of you think the wii u version will be dumped down just because its wii u. if the ps4 was released in wii u's place you wouldn't see its full potential either when there still making games for ps3 & 360. black ops 2 wii u for example vs ps3/360. & later game need for speed u.
" if the ps4 was released in wii u's place" One because sony nor ms is that naive to design such a underpowered console and then expect to have good third party support. Nintendo is trying to pass of another last gen system as a next gen one and they are paying the price, especially since the wii crowd has throughly ignored it.
I am not worried at all. Beside I had Battlefield 2 Modern Combat on PS2 Battlefield 1943 on PSN Battlefield Bad Company 2 on PS3 Battlefield 3 on PS3 Battlefield Play 4 Free on PC I careless if it comes to Wii U.
I think that will be the story for a lot of big games on wiiu When big 3rd party games do poorly on nintndos home consoles publishers look away from Nintendo. Nintendo fans buy all the exclusives but not a lot of 3rd party games But few exclusives alone are worth the asking price for most Nintendo systems. For me Zelda
EA will close down this gen thinking microsoft and sony can always get the thru is a very fan boyism way of doing business i think ?? anyway wiiu will do better with 3rd party exclusives i think like Beyonetta2 and Wonderful 101 ect as they look like quality over quantity and Retro studio's have to show off that GAME ENGINE ??? wiiu will be fine EA will be the next THQ,Ubisoft will survive with a winning strategy of releasing games on all major platforms.
People buy Nintendo system to play Mario's and Zelda games. Its not a console for everyone else. Only Ninty fans will buy it especialy the price its at today. Theres not many real hardcore and masculine game for Wii U, just childish looking games that don't intrest me.
so far... Wow, that wasn't generalizing at all. It's kind of true though. Just the other day I was playing Mario Creed, Mario Effect, Yoshi Arkham City, ZombiZelda and Black Ops Luigi 2. I can't wait to play Grand Theft Mario and Peachshock 3. As for BF4. I don't see it happening, but if it does I will probably buy it. We haven't yet seen what the Wiiu can do and it may surprise some people. It won't be PS4 or Nextbox, but it could still be good. Time will tell.
@whymii so far allot of third party publishers and Devs are openly being negative and looking likely that just like last gen, third party hit games will not show up on Wii U. So no future Mass Effects, GTA's, Red Dead, Crysis, Half Life's and possibly CoD's. Just Mario and nintendo games for u guys, like it was on the original Wii days.
I disagree. WiiU will get Battlefield 4. Battlefield 3 even had an Iphone game. So yes its coming to WiiU. EA is greedy as fuck. When will people see that I don't know.
Wasn't that game cancelled
Yes shortly after release, but EA will try anything at least once to sell a game on a different platform.
It's terrible how EA is treating Nintendo and the Wii U, it's almost as bad as how they treated Sega with the Dreamcast. If they would put some games out at the same time as the other consoles things would be fine. Why not put Sim City out on the Wii U? Why not Battlefield or Crysis 3? I just don't understand it.
I think it's because there are too few Wii U owners at the moment. Around 140 million PS3 and 360 owners VS. around 3 million Wii U owners. I doubt the devs want to bother, especially since only a small percentage of that 3 million would likely be interested in Battlefield 4.
Well by the time BF4 released, the Wii U install base could be between 8-10 million consoles. Things are slow now, but it might lead people to actually buy a Wii U for a third party game for a change.
@Jek_Porkins, By the time the Wii U has sold 8M units, people looking for a new console to play BF4 on will have the PS4 and 720 to choose from. I think a Wii U sale, to get BF4 on the Wii U over the PS4 and 720, will be kinda tough at that point.
around 4 million.
To be fair, Nintendo haven't given developers a huge list of reasons to develop games for them just yet. The install base is pretty low at the moment when compared to the current gen platforms, the Wii U hardware is said to be troublesome to develop for leading to inferior ports of current gen games, and the specs are incomparably inferior to PS4, next gen Xbox and PC - the platforms holding the games that these developers are clearly focused on. Nintendo also haven't made a significant effort with third party developers for a long time on their home consoles. It goes both ways. They've kind of brought it on themselves by producing another Wii hardware scenario. With Nintendo it's all about the first party games, and they'll come when they come.
@ Jek_Porkins "it might lead people to actually buy a Wii U for a third party game for a change." If people were going to buy a console for this game, i doubt they would buy the Wii U for it, especially since it would be guaranteed to be the inferior version of the game between the next-gen consoles.
Yeah alright kid if you think Battlefield4 is going to pose a struggle for wiiu your in for a shock wiiu wont struggle with any game in the the next gen PERIOD.
Because the Nintendo fans don't support third party games. It's Nintendo or nothing for them. It just doesn't make sense for companies to spend money on porting games when there is only a handful of people who will buy the game.
That is false. Nintendo fans don't support "bad" third party games. Games that are actually made with a real effort tend to make a profit. Most of the third party games released on the Wii U at launch were lazy, poorly optimized, straight ports of old 360 and PS3 that most Wii U that cost twice as much as their 360/PS3 counterparts did at the time. Nintendo fans do not want that. Nintendo fans are not retarded. They have standards. On the other hand there were "two" titles that weren't rushed, poorly optimized, straight ports. ZombiU and Trine 2: Directors Cut. Last I checked, ZombiU was the best selling third party game on the Wii U to date and Trine 2: DC was the best selling eshop game. Nintendo fans don't want third party games. What Nintendo fans want are "GOOD" third party games. When the devs give them quality, they will with give them sales.
Nintendo is probably forcing everyone to make use of the tablet when making a game. This would explain why we had articles earlier in the Wii U's life about devs having trouble finding creative uses for it. A lot of people/devs are perfectionists and if it feels half baked it's often easier to just skip it altogether.
No, Nintendo actually isn't doing that. The only requirement is that the tablet controller must be the main control method, and if a developer doesn't want to make extra use of the tablet functionality, they can just use map the buttons exactly the same way they do with a PS3 / 360 controller, and use the screen just for off-TV play, and call it a day.
no Nintendo is not forcing every developer to make use of the tablet. why would Nintendo release the Wii U Pro controller if they were. like deafdani said, they can simply map the controls and add a simply off-tv play feature and voila you're done. also, developers are not to be blamed here. the sad reality is, the choice to make games for a console do not lie on the developers but to the man in suits. just like what CryTek's head said, they've already got Crysis 3 running on Wii U; but the business side of it all was the reason it didn't, coz EA and Nintendo failed to have some sort of agreement (with stories suggesting that this is because of Nintendo not agreeing to use EA's Origin).
It's because of that origin crap, nintendo didn't want it, ea wasn't happy. Ea cried and cried, but nintendo didn't care. Now we must suffer without the crappy ports ea would have produced anyways.
ME3, NFS and the EA Sports games don't really look worse or have less features than the competition (on the contrary if anything). At this point anyway, the support would benefit Nintendo more than EA.
The Ea sports titles had less dev time than the iphone versions as the dev said and the new engines were ripped out of fifa and madden for wii u.
It's because EA wanted Nintendo to agree to making EA's origin service the Nintendo online network service. Nintendo said no. EA is pissed off about that.
It's purely a business decision. There's nothing personal. Publishers are becoming very risk adverse at the moment. It is a matter of EA looking at the risks and return on investment. If the figures look promising, they will go ahead. They're are not in the business of loosing money to make gamers happy. Sorry, that's the truth. Fingers crossed the numbers add up, but at the moment it's not looking good.
i don't think that's what people with Wii U would want in the first place... you'd want to buy a Wii U for nintendo games LoZ, Mario, Metroid, Pikmin. etc. sadly as of now there's not really anything worthwhile for me to justify myself getting a wii u there eventually will be though
You apparently don't know what Nintendo fans want then.
Apparently he knows more than Nintendo fans themselves. They say they want more third party on Nintendo systems yet they never buy them when they do come(I'm not talking about shovel-ware either).
@BLuTheSecond it's not that they don't buy them. it's that they have little incentive to get the 3rd party software. take for instance BLOPS2. BLOPS2 for the Wii U was considered by some as even better than the other consoles' version; but with the Wii U's install base currently at over 3 million only, the online community is naturally not high. not to mention, if all your friends are playing it on the XBox360/PS3, even if you have a Wii U, why would you get it when your friends are not gonna be on it. also it came out a week or so after the other console versions. take note that ZombiU and Trine 2: DC are the best-selling 3rd party softwares for the Wii U currently. when Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate, Dragon Quest X, Lego City Undercover, The Wonderful 101, etc. comes out, they're already expected to sell.
I love all these generalist statements on wii u articles by people that don't own one. How do you know what ALL people with a wii u want? You don't own one so the only thing that you really know is that right now the wii u is not attractive to you. That's fine. It may never. The main thing is that you find a platform/s that can support your interest in games.
I have a WII U and Black ops why wouldn't I want the game? I didn't by Mario either.
Same here. I didn't buy Mario for the Wii U and I only bought the first Galaxy for the Wii. I got a bunch of Indie games, ZombiU and Tekken Tag 2 for my Wii U. Most of what I buy on Nintendo hardware are the unique third party games likes No More Heroes, Elebits, Zack and Wiki, Red Steel 2, The Last Story, Xenoblade etc. Right now I'm looking forward to Lego City Undercover, Monster Hunter Ultimate, and Sniper Elite. I will get NFS Most Wanted U when the price drops to a reasonable number and I may get Injustice if it turns out well and isn't just a straight port from the PS3/360. And for the people who gave Realplaya disagrees, sorry for contradicting your condescending presumptions of what gamers on Nintendo consoles like.
Xenoblade is actually first party. Nintendo owns Monolith Soft. :P
lilbrorx I agree but I expected the disagrees even if your comment is neutral if you mention one system you get dinged. But to add to what I said I barely play games as much as I used to. But no one is going to put me in a box I play the games I like on whatever system I own. I wanted be getting any of the next gen systems for a while. But I do suspect that when A game isn't selling well on the other two systems it will hit the WII U. My reasoning is as a developer and publisher you have to get paid. If nintendo has an installed base around 20 mill and the other two are around that can you afford to let your game bomb sales wide on one system? I will go on a limb and say no.
EA? Don't care
Even though EA & Nintendo ain't on good terms I still think BF4 will come out for the Wii U I just see EA releasing the game a few months later just like they did with Need for speed most wanted.
We want pikmin and luigi not BF4
ooooo yay, another mindless shooter. how fascinating.
This article is nothing but empty speculation. It doesn't even pose any theories as to why it will not appear on Wii U, other than the fact that someone apparently once said that BF4 will be on "next generation consoles", ignoring the fact that for all intents and purposes, Wii U is a "next generation console", especially when you compare it to consoles that were on the market at the time of Battlefield 3 releases. If the author did a little research, he'd find that "Battlefield" for Wii U has indeed been mentioned (if not confirmed) in the past.
This article also points out the article about Activision being upset about BO2's sales. I thought that article was debunked as it wasn't actually anyone reputable from Activision.
It was, the author is lazy.
EA isn't putting Battlefield 4 on Wii U because of the bad business between Nintendo and EA. Why are people making up all these other excuses otherwise. If Nintendo decided to use Origin as its online store, you can bet your ass the Wii U would have Battlefield 4.
Because a console with less power than a PS3 will be able to run BF4. Lol, no. And lol at all the nintendohs saying they wouldn't want BF4, sounds like the lady doth protest too much.
The wii u has more power than the ps3 and xbox 360. That has been proven.
Yeah slightly better than 8 yr old hardware, is still ridiculously obsolete compared to the ps4, 720's rumored specs and high/higher end pcs. I will be surprised if the ps3 runs bf 4, nintendo fans need to realize that nintendo and the rest of the industry are at 2 different starting points. Nintendo is still in 2007 trying to advance. The industry is saying welcome to 2013 we are moving beyond last gen. The wii u has 1 gig of slow ddr3 ram for the gpu to play with, the ps4 6-7 gigs of high speed Gddr5 ram, the 720 5-6 gigs of likely med/high speed ddr3 ram. The gap is too large between the 3 systems, if bf4 doesn't come out for the ps3/360 a wiiu version isn't happening. This is only going to get worse as time goes on. "If Nintendo decided to use Origin as its online store" Neither sony or ms use it, but both will see bf4 on it's platform.