Microsoft's entertainment focus for its next home console is more appealing than it seems. This MMGN.com blogger tries to make sense of Microsoft's hope to dominate home entertainment.
"I used my 360 more for entertainment than I do gaming" So, gaming is not entertainment ?
...and whats wrong with wanting something for entertainment. ...nothing
On a gaming console? Which main feature is, you know, gaming?
im a gamer first and formost but I know people who purchased a ps3 because it was the cheapest blu ray player available for a long time. Nowhere did I say it should be MS' s focus or sonys main focu. I use my ps3 for games and my xbox for its few exclusives but mainly for sky player as that service is exclusive to the 360 here in in-ger-land.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1... What do you think Microsoft does with all of that data? Ask yourself, how much time do people spend on their iphones actually talking to people? People buy smartphones because they do so much more and gamers who used to buy dedicated devices just for gaming also want more out of their consoles. I am part of the minority who buys a console mainly for the games but at the same time I don't ignore the trends out there.
I'd honestly play a great game over a great movie/show any day. Gaming is my entertainment priority.
"Why I’m more interested in the next Xbox" ...and again, why should we care about a random dude and his blog?
"Why I'm more interested in the next xbox." Because you are a xbox fanboy and you feel the need for the whole world to know it. We know nothing about the next Xbox. At this point you could say that you are cuorious what it will bring but after seeing what the PS4 will bring, you should be more interested in that at this point. After MS shows off the next xbox and they blow everyone away just like sony did than this might be a valid opinion. At this point you just sound like a desperate MS fanboy who can't deal with the fact that Sony showed us a ton of amazing stuff at the PS4 reveal. More than people were expecting.
@Ult iMate "On a gaming console? Which main feature is, you know, gaming?" I browse the web and use apps on my iPod Touch more than I listen to music on it. People use their phones for texting and Facebook more than they actually make phone calls. And I use my game consoles for movies, music, web browsing, TV, and other stuff besides games. Just because something has a "main function" doesn't mean that the "secondary" ones can't be used and enjoyed just as much or even more.
Having to pay extra to access it for one. Not knowing exactly what all its going to offer before jumping all in is another. No one officially knows what the NextBox is going to offer yet. And if what is rumored is true, then BR if not DVDs wont be playable on it.
Maybe XBOX should be describe as a cable box that plays games.
If you want a gaming console, you probably want gaming to be forefront. Otherwise you are paying for a subscription just to use the entertainment that can be streamed free elsewhere. Or, you can just use every other device in your house for it.
@ Ares84HU Please do not talk about fanboism. All I needed to do is check your comment history. Your comments wll become relevant when you will be a real gamer. Now go to bed with your sony poster.
It's not wrong exactly, but it is amusing to see this kind of talk from MS and their fans now. PS3's extra entertainment capabilities were derided for awhile, until 360 got some of those same functions, then suddenly they were desirable and cool. That went along well with N4G's 360 fans switching from the "PS3 has no exclusives" shtick to the "exclusives aren't important" shtick. People are funny. Eventually someone here will probably claim MS originated the idea of a multimedia console, just like Kinect had nothing similar to evolve from according to some people.
Apparently and according to the PS fanboys above "PS3 is never used for entertainment and only used for gaming and the Xbox is only a casual console for movies and TV". In the real world, Netflix and Blu-ray are the most used features on the PS3. In fact, in reality, PS3 users watch more and play less than Xbox users. Also that "great core machine" the PS3 hasn't had any real core games in over a year.
@ALLWRONG Do you have any proof or statistics that back up your claim that ps3 users use their console for blu/rays and netflix more? Don't make statements like that if you don't have any proof..
I am interested in both the ps4 and next xbox because i like hardware and games and i have a wii-u and just want to have the next iterations of the ps and xbox in my collection. No fanboyish comments or disrespectful derogatory allegations. just pure honest excitement for what is to come.
Here http://www.nowgamer.com/new... I'm sure you guys will ignore and deny that link the same way you deny the existence of the PS4 Kinect rip off device.
@ALLWRONG "In the real world, Netflix and Blu-ray are the most used features on the PS3. In fact, in reality, PS3 users watch more and play less than Xbox users. Also that "great core machine" the PS3 hasn't had any real core games in over a year." I swear, at this point, between your name and your posts, I'm beginning to think you use your account as one big troll attempt. There's no way someone can believe the nonsense you come up with. I mean... you actually think more PS3 Netflix usage instantly proves PS3 sees less gameplay time, as opposed to, oh I don't know... less TV time for PS3 owners? And "the PS3 hasn't had any real core games in over a year"? I know a few people like you like to pretend stuff like AllStars, LBP, and Sly Cooper aren't for the core based purely on it's cartoonish style, even though everything from Crash Bandicoot to Mario Kart to Banjo-Kazooie has never been considered anything less than core... but ignoring stuff like Starhawk and Twisted Metal? That's a whole new level of deluded fanboyism.
The author is the target audience for Microsoft., an audience that thinks of video games as secondary entertainment. Play B3yond
This 'extra entertainment' isn't just limited to the nextbox. The PS4 will be an entertainment hub also. But I think it won't be the main focus of the PS4, it will be just as capable (without the kinect which we can all do without) instead it will be present but Sony don't have to shout about it. Currently I can do all that stuff on the PS3 anyways.
so, when someone is more interested in xbox they are fanboys, but when the same blogs say the same thing about playstation it is ok??? lol what a joke this site and it's fanboys are. i have never seen a site more stricken with the worst type of fanboys than n4g
@ALLWRONG So a statemet by a Netflix employee claiming that more of their usage comes from PS3 users means that they automatically play less games? Why can't ps3 users do both? I certainly do.. I spent 4 hours plaing God of War earlier today and will watch some netflix before bed... So again you are making baseless claims with no real proof to support them..
So every kind entertainment is gaming?
Logic fail? Entertainment covers a broad spectrum of activities, from tv and movies to gaming, sports, theater, and concerts. You essentially took the logic that since humans are animals, all animals must be humans. Doesn't work that way.
@cgoodno Logic failed in the very first comment. The one from KarmicDemon. Gaming IS entertainment. BUT gaming is not the only kind of entertainment. AND the gaming console should focus mainly on gaming side of entertainment in the first place.
cgoodno are you really not picking up on the point he was trying to make? :/
And that, my friends, is called a "fallacy".
Why I don't care about what console you're interested in: I don't care. /thread /nextgentalk /site /internet
Buy a Roku then.
or a Boxee, Apple TV, Google TV, WD TV media box etc, Even most bluray players and smart Tv's offer access to pretty much the same set of services. I really don't need Netflix on every device connected to my TV, especially when the TV already has it.
Unless Microsoft shows me something other than the unless apps, kinect, and the same 4 main franchises they have; plus not charging to play online the 360 is the last product i'll ever purchase from them. 3rd party games i can always play for free on playstation like I've always done with friends. so M$ if you want my $$$$$ for this new coming generation you'll have to show me why i should spend my $$$$$ on your product as Im not easily brainwashed by advertising like some people.
Simple I want a games console that does other things and not the other way around. My PS3 is used 90% for gaming and 10% for other things. I enjoy the other features when i use them but 1st and foremost gaming is what the console and company needs to be focused on when it comes to these devices.
I think they meant other forms of entertainment.
Ya the author clearly put "alternative entertainment" but the first comment just took the word alternative out of his inaccurate quote typical troll strategy
I'll be buying both eventually, but I don't know enough about the next xbox to be excited for it. TBH if I went by the last 2 years of the 360s life, I'm more worried about what direction they are going to be heading w/ it more than anything. I just want to hear some real info about it, rather than speculation.
Basically this one just plays Halo once a month and watches netflix everyday on their Xbox and finds nothing else interesting. Which to me = Casual Kinect gamer. So I see why this person like Xbox better.
Just knowing kinect is successful means they will have to partially focus on the 30 million people who bought it. ugh.. According to the dude they raided 720 can't work without kinect. I think the UI will be like windows 8 and you wave your hand to navigate the menu. Also with nintendo, valve and sony around I refuse to pay for multi player. Xbox is not special and definitely not a better service than steam.
I'm buying a Next Box 720 day 1 because: All of my Live Information for the past 10 years will transfer to Next Box 720. All the downloaded library of games will transfer. All of my friends list will return to the Next Box 720. I wont be gouged into buying games I've already purchased: 720 will be backwards compatible. The Campaign Co-op experience with Halo & Gears will be back with every game in the series. The PS4 wont be B/C PSN wont transfer to PS4 Theyre going to make you pay to play games youve already purchased AND thats what youre excited about...Please. That's why I'll have 3 Next Box 720 consoles to play with my family. M$ has their best: Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable! & more... People say SONY has new games for the PS4 & what do we see: Killzone PS4, Infamous PS4, & some Nak game. And no one says anything about another Non Killing Halo Killzone game. Whatever.
What makes you think the Xbox.next will be backwards compatible? If the rumors are true then it will also be going x86, the current CPU is PowerPC based and therefore is incompatible. They could try to use an emulator but I wouldn't count on it.
Fanboyism 101- Assume everything and state it as a fact.
otherZinc delusional much?
"People say SONY has new games for the PS4 & what do we see: Killzone PS4, Infamous PS4, & some Nak game. And no one says anything about another Non Killing Halo Killzone game. Whatever." And where is all these new great games for the next xbox????
"M$ has their best: Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable! & more... " LOL what new IP's has Microsoft made in last 7 years ? every sony studio is making new IP's so yeah, troll harder. and sony has made the most IP's this gen
@otherzinc "M$ has their best: Halo, Gears, Forza, Fable! & more... " LOL @ the &more-part. Ran out of names and had to resort to &more already did we? Negative down there @ 1.16 is a perfect example why exclusives became important back in the day. It was all about "PS3 haz no gaemz" and "PS3 iz only a BD-player". Thank you negative.
after the ps4 reveal,, i couldnt care less what MS show with 720
@Ares84HU - which is ironically the same reason PS3 owners are excited for PS4. It's hysterical and corny how the "Playstation fanboys" present everything as if what they say is gospel. There hasn't even been a formal announcement of the new Xbox. There will be a ton of gaming to be had. When all is said and done, there isn't going to be a whole lot different between the two. It will be those that want the Playstation and those that want the Xbox... or people like me who will have both. Having both is the best.
You will be Disagreed till you sink, brother. This site has gone very low. No more mature discussions. Just sony fanboys disagreeing to anything that offend their mother (Sony) or even consider something about worst enemy (MS). Peace
Er, no. See, we actually KNOW stuff about the next Playstation, including a handful of the games at launch. Sure, there will be assumptions, and those are based on what Sony is doing RIGHT NOW. The same can be said of assumptions based on Microsoft's actions RIGHT NOW: they're going to be more focused on the casual, on social apps and services, and gaming will be secondary. If you don't see a difference between the two companies, in a gaming capacity, then I don't know what to tell you. Yes, it'll be best to have both. Don't think anybody's arguing that. But if you can only have one, it doesn't make sense for a gamer to get a console that isn't focused first on games. Edit: Being focused on games means putting games at the forefront of the console's functions. Isn't that obvious? Who cares if you're not enthused by the recent exclusives. Plenty of people will be, and that's the point: Sony makes sure to cater to everybody. Not just me, not just you. You like racing games? Great: you don't have to rely simply on third parties, as Sony fields numerous titles of their own. It's not just about the game, but about MORE of them. Sony's being in the red, by the way, is due to poor management in other divisions not directly related to gaming. Or are you going to be one of those people that stupidly insists their current situation is ALL on the gaming front? No, there's not really a problem with Microsoft going after different audiences, so long as they don't forget about the gaming base that made them what they are. I wonder what you would categorize their all-in approach to the casual market as? If the games- and gaming-related features- are there, if the support from the manufacturer is there, I'll buy any system. Sony caters to me the MOST, but I don't shut out the idea of buying other consoles. But when you look at the three makers, Microsoft is, by far, the WORST at giving gamers what they want. Some people are satisfied- I struggle not to call them SIMPLE- with the small bit of support they give their own system, with being charged to play online and access services they already have a bill for. I want more than that. As long as Microsoft is showing me their FOCUS is elsewhere, I'll be sure to spend my money- and do my gaming- elsewhere.
@Hicken What does focused on games even mean? That they have their own first party studios and make a ton of games I might not even care about? One of the biggest reasons I even got a PS3 was for the super duper awesome exclusives I just had to have and two of them came out in the last two weeks and I have zero interest. And I don't know, the PS4 sure looked focused on updating Facebook statuses. See how easy it is to play that game? Meanwhile, on my Xbox 360, I'm enjoying a ridiculous amount of games that I literally do not even have the time for. Does the fact that they are dirty multi-plats make me a bad person? I play the games I enjoy, without regard to what platform they happen to land on, and when they are on both, I get them on the 360 because I enjoy the 360 substantially more. And guess what... there is absolutely ZERO shortage of games to play on the Xbox 360. If the new Xbox plays video games, there is absolutely ZERO reason to believe this is going to change. So what if Microsoft looks for other audiences and not just the gamer. Good for them. That's why they are in the black and Sony is constantly in the red. All this silly nonsense is such hyperbole. There is absolutely NO right or wrong answer here, especially when you own both consoles. If you think you will enjoy the PS4 more than the new Xbox, go get your PS4. What does that have to do with me or anyone else that makes the opposite choice? Nothing. Both will have a metric shitton of games that no one in their right mind will have time to play, and I can say that with the utmost confidence without Microsoft announcing a single thing. It just cracks me up how much people that have no intention of owning an Xbox get so worked up about what it may or may not have while beating off to a PS4 spec sheet. C'est la vie.
Darth, just ignore him, Hicken is one of the worst troll on N4G. He claims he is not a fanboy but he is one of the worst one due to the length of his posts; it is literally a college essay. Most of the things that he had posted make absolutely no sense whatsoever. And here is good example of what I am talking about. http://n4g.com/news/1189825... Quote Hicken: "Oh, look: another 5-bubble troll in a Sony article" LOL, but then he would go on Xbox articles and do the same thing like this one and the articles below. http://n4g.com/news/1189745... http://n4g.com/news/1188974... http://n4g.com/news/1188542... smh
Hicken, "But when you look at the three makers, Microsoft is, by far, the WORST at giving gamers what they want. Some people are satisfied- I struggle not to call them SIMPLE- with the small bit of support they give their own system, with being charged to play online and access services they already have a bill for. I want more than that. As long as Microsoft is showing me their FOCUS is elsewhere, I'll be sure to spend my money- and do my gaming- elsewhere." You're all over the map. You were never a supporter pre-Kinect and you're certainly not post-Kinect. So like DarthJay asked, what does focused on games even mean? All this guy does is talk about Sony. Whether it's in Sony articles and making sure nobody says anything negative or in Microsoft articles telling everyone how Sony is doing such a better job. If Sony is making you such a satisfied customer why do you seem so unhappy and fearful what Microsoft is doing?
@Darth Regardless of how you rationalize it the ps3 has a better track record of exclusives Just because you don't have any interest in them does not negate the fact that Sony has placed more emphasis on games rather then social aspects. Microsoft has put all of their efforts over the last couple of years into Apps, timed exlcusive DLC, and LIVE in general..
i dont understand? but 360 doesnt have blueray player, i dont think people have right to say 360 is more of entertainment then the playstation 3 is, ps3 has way better navigation for the casual etc etc..... truth is - his fanboy.
The 360 controller is " The Gaming " controllers IMO.... I hope they don't change it up much. I want the next xbox but all the rumors so far make it sound awful.
OMG ! Its not Entertainment ?
That... Or Kinect. I don't know what else he would use it for apart from COD.
EDIT: Sorry read the headline wrong Different strokes for different folks if somebody likes the Xbox for the apps then let him its his money and his preference? Its funny because MS didn't turn the Xbox into a media box over night it wasn't just a random decision they up and made one day. It was the consumers, buyers, mainstream that turned Xbox into a media box so don't point fingers at MS point fingers at the people. Mainstream decided to do other things besides gaming on Xbox and all MS did was shift to the market. That market that Sony wanted and predicted at the beginning of the current gen. MS isn't posting "An ___X % of people are using Xbox for none gaming" for no reason. MS is adapting to that % of users who aren't gaming which is a large % I might add. Again blame the changing and shifting market that molded the way Xbox is currently.
I use my ps3 and 360 for more then games. I still feel like the real winners our the ones who get both. If you don't you will be missing out on great games; and through all this noise that is what it really is about the games. To favor one is fine and all but the fact of the matter is their is great games and all systems and I just hope everyone gets a chance to play some of them! This bickering and picking sides is just childish and petty. Research and choose the product to better suite your needs, be confident in your purchase and if you are happy then leave it at that. We should leave the fighting and competing to the companies.
So an xbox gamer on a 360 gamer community website prefers an xbox system that hasnt even been confirmed yet? Bias or ignorance? You decide.
He did state some really good facts about the PS3 so I don't believe he is being biased. But your right opinions are so over rated! I much rather live in a world without any. Damn this so called internet!
@mottsy...your obviously missing the point. No one said people's opinions don't matter. I just laugh at how someone is comparing an existing console to a console that hasn't even been officially confirmed or revealed. And then based on that incomplete information, is determining that one system is more preferable over the other. I can understand his opinion making more sense after both consoles have been presented and revealed. Thats his freedom of choice, but as of right now he's basing his biased opinion on rumors and speculation. This article has "fanboy" written all over it. Opinions are allowed. Ignorant bias is not.
Don't get me wrong this article is a hit seeking article for sure! But I mean look at how much attention this brings to N4G. This site eats up these opinion and fanboyism journalist. I guess I just find it funny how many people our quick to claim the latter but really everyone commenting on this article and getting worked up over it is just as guilty for being a fanboy. But ya you are right, we know little but I mean that's all we can do right now is speculate. BTW I didnt disagree with you.
@ KarmicDemon As i agree with your initial idea but he did say "alternate entertainment" so i mean I see what you did their, But if your gonna quote , quote it right. On point, I do love the entertainment aspect the xbox offers which is gonna be a living room machine, but the ps3 is my time along with all my games! But I always get both systems anyways so I guess it doesn't matter much.
Sometimes its as simple as, you preferring a company over the other.
"Why I’m more interested in the next Xbox" because you have a blog called 360mmgn.com.
like Microsoft care about fanbase Microsoft just use the xbox fanboys to get in the gaming thing now that they see other openings what do you guys think? That Microsoft care about you Microsoft said we charge for online service and you're going to love it we only give 2 aaa games and kinect all day and guess what? you're going to love it. everybody said yes sir Microsoft sir and hold their head down like a b#tch..
ps3 is still raging in the games department, so if you think that you are a proud gamer, you know what to choose, but if you like heavy doses of entertainment buy yourself tablets or mid range pc will work fine.
Ps3 has more entertainment apps than Xbox and you don't have to pay twice to use them. Blu-ray along sets it miles ahead. You can also download movies from the browser(stagevu anyone?). Plus the FAT has card readers. I just don't see how the Xbox is his prime entertainment system when it lacks all that. The article doesn't even mention why he likes the Xbox 360, it's just him saying way they aren't good in the gaming department. So if he's talking next-gen if its anything like this you'll be getting great exclusives along with more entertainment from the ps4...