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What did console developers learn from this generation?

This is a tough scenario. What, if anything, have the big three console manufacturers learned from this generation? Will the same mistakes be made again? GoozerNation takes a minute to reflect on the end of this generation and looks at both the positives and the negatives and speculates on what it all means.

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Feline_Pornographer4063d ago (Edited 4063d ago )

Sony: Graphical dominance over the much weaker Xbox 360, massive first party exclusive developer array, and strong support in all key console regions was the key to making the PS3 sell at the same rate as the top selling console in history, the PS2.

PS2 14 years * 11 mil/yr ~160 million
PS3 7 years * 11 mil/yr ~78 million

Even if the PS3 has isn't on the market for the full 7 more years the PS2 was the PS3 will be Sony's third 100+ million selling console.

Nintendo: Nintendo learned that you can't just sit back expecting profits to keep rolling in. They did almost nothing to capitalize on the huge mindshare and money they had from the first half of this gen and they are paying the price now with the Wii U.

Microsoft: Rushing out junk and underpowered hardware with the Xbox 360 in the desperate hope that it will give them an advantage was a complete disaster. The Xbox 360 ended up in last place this gen despite launching a year early, being 200 dollars cheaper than the PS3, and padding out its installed base by millions and millions of extra consoles sold due to the RRoD fiasco. Microsoft learned that it is futile to continue to take on Sony and instead have thrown in the towel and given up taking on Sony and instead are trying to turn the next Xbox into some sort of Wii type graphically weak motion control casual shovelware box.

Software_Lover4063d ago

PS3 not selling at the same rate as the ps2. Its outselling the 360 for sure, but not the ps2.

bourg4063d ago (Edited 4063d ago )

The PS3 is selling at a slightly lower rate than the PS2.

Absolutely amazing job by Sony considering the PS3 launched at DOUBLE the price of the PS2: 600 dollars vs 300 dollars.

Even if we assume the PS3 only remains for sale half the remaining time the PS2 sold for - 3.5 more years vs 7 more for the PS2. The PS3 will easily outsell the 105 million selling PS1, outsell the Wii's installed base ending up the top selling console this gen and be the second highest selling console in history only behind the PS2 in worldwide sales.

PoSTedUP4063d ago (Edited 4063d ago )

wii sold a lot of "crap", PS3 has inferior ports (in the begining) because it was hard to develop for but had superior graphics in their exclusives, and 360 had superior ports but exclusives couldnt compare to the Ps3's.

final judgement: the most out of your game: PS3
better sales but less out of your potential: 360
lowering your standards and possibly "banking": wii

: P

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MikeMyers4063d ago

1) That they can release games broken in hopes of fixing them with an update

2) That DLC and other online components were used to help sell games and to keep gamers with that product.

3) That going multiplatform was the way to go.

4) That they can keep recycling IP's and take little chances.

5) That some of the above comments show there is a very vocal minority who are very loyal and are the ones who mainly attributed to the console wars.

mcstorm4063d ago

That was well put and what I was thinking.

I do think the cost of this gen has forced developers to keep recycling the IP's because there has been a lot of new IP's that have cost a lot to make but sales have been poor.

I would like to see more IP's next gen but this all depends on how expensive it will be to develop game next gen. I think the PS4 and Next Xbox will be quite similar on how they are made and this should help developers bring the cost of making games for the Next Xbox and PS3 but we will have to wait and see. I do see them carrying on making DLC for games but if im honest ide rather developers make a game and then rather than bring anther one out 12 months later the developers give us a DLC for £20 that gives us a new SP mode and some new MP levels a little bit like Dice have done with BF3 but I cant see them doing this.

Hingle_Mcringleberry4063d ago

Sony: how to blow billions in one generation. That is all.

aquamala4063d ago

N4g should stop giving new accounts 3 bubbles, otherwise trolls are just going to make new accounts like this when their real account is down to one bubble

MikeMyers4063d ago

You're right and I know a few of them off-hand that have multiple accounts. It should be like Neogaf, one account per ip address and if you screw up too bad so sad.

BitbyDeath4062d ago

GAF stops SPAM by only allowing in users with paid email address (blocking the likes of Hotmail and GMail etc)

IP bans don't do much when someone can easily get another.

Problem is implementing this method could potentially kill a website as a large percentage of users would have to sign up again.

Good_Guy_Jamal4063d ago

It's like they are incapable of saying anything without dragging the other consoles through the mud. It is disturbing.

maniacmayhem4063d ago

What's hilarious is this guy will have 4 bubbles by end of day,

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Murad4063d ago

How to f***k gamers over.

Canary4063d ago

Or, rather, they learned that they can **** gamers over and gamers will bend over, lower their trousers and beg for more.

CalvinKlein4062d ago

thats the one thing I was thinking they learned for sure, how to squeeze more milk out of the cow.

Prodigy-X4063d ago (Edited 4063d ago )

What? Nothing But DLC!!!

silvacrest4063d ago

more RAM is always a good thing?

phantomexe4063d ago

I hope it's not to release a 500 or 600 dollar consule. More RAM as well.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere14h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN11h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos9h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN2h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo3h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

PassNextquestion13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger11h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Profchaos13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto13h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos13h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long10h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel12h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator11h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg15h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos14h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola9h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Nintendo's Massacre Of The 3DS And Wii U Is Finally Complete, Regrettably

Hanzala from eXputer: "The cruel hammer of Nintendo has fallen. Farewell, 3DS and Wii U, you surely brightened my life and many others; you won't be forgotten."