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Submitted by Lionheart377 657d ago | news

Michael Pachter chooses the Xbox to win the next generation

Industry analyst and all-around controversy starter, Michael Pachter, has has plenty to say at this year's SXSW, but his biggest claim may be that the next Xbox will win the coming console generation. (Michael Pachter, PS4, Xbox One)

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Walker  +   657d ago | Well said
Oh Really ?!
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MaideninBlack  +   657d ago
It's on, brah! lol
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DeanSanchez  +   657d ago
Haha. He thinks the social features and Skype will help the next Xbox?
I guess the games,focusing on the developers and hardcore gamers aren't that important..

Nooo. Social features and Skype ftw... So he says
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meetajhu  +   657d ago | Well said
Microsoft = U.S.A
Sony = Japan
Nintendo = Japan
Michael Pachter= U.S.A
Irishguy95  +   657d ago | Well said
Xbox 24.65 Million global
Ps2 153.68 Million global
Xbox360 74.52 Million global
Ps3 ~76 Million global

Sony lost ALOT of their user base to Nintendo and Microsoft. Sony better hope it doesn't happen again

Ah look. Stealth disagree's from people know they cannot argue with numbers.

If Microsoft repeat their success next gen and Sony fail that hard again..sony is really gonna be ****ed.

Edit-- Oh really Mebeatdown...was that stupid? Ok.

After 6 years Ps2 sold over 100 Million. After 7 years it was 118 million

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...

Ps3 is on it's 6.5 years btw.
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Nicolee  +   657d ago | Well said
i think he need to change his crystal ball
Shadow Flare  +   657d ago
Irishguy, the ps3 is still selling, and its still not even under the $200 price point.

The competition is selling a lot more consoles but ps3 is still steadily and very happily on its way past the 100 million barrier. With further price cuts and games who knows how much it will sell up until its dead.

Sony may have lost marketshare but have they lost their userbase? This isn't the end of the ps3's life, it's steamrolling sales at the moment.

It will be Sonys third console to hit 100 million sales. I don't think their userbase has changed that much actually.

Lest we forget ps2 only died this year I think. Which if ps3 follows a similar course puts ps3 just over half way through its life. It's still more expensive then the Wii was at launch in 2006
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MrBeatdown  +   657d ago | Intelligent
@Irishguy

"Stealth disagree's from people know they cannot argue with numbers"

Or they are just smart enough to realize that's it's dumb to compare a console that has been on the market for six years to a console that has been on the market for twelve.

Sony didn't sell 150 million PS2s in six years. After six and a half years on the market, it sold around 117 million, if this is accurate...

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...

That's a full seven years if you take the early Japanese launch into account.

But the PS3? It's around 75-80 million after a little under six and a half years. And that's not even taking into account the delayed European launch.

Sony's behind, at max, around 40 million units. But then again, the PS2 spent eleven of its 13.5 years on the market at under $200... a price point PS3 hasn't even touched.

It doesn't really look like Sony "failed that hard" to me.
ThanatosDMC  +   657d ago
360's are now only $99 too.
LOL_WUT  +   657d ago
I'll believe him once we actually get to see what the next box is capable off. ;)
BattleAxe  +   657d ago
If the next Xbox isn't a primary gaming devise, then it really isn't competing with Sony. Looks like Microsoft is going to try to compete more with Apple TV and cable box makers like Motorola and Hauppauge. Microsoft is essentially no longer a gaming company.
knowyourstuff  +   657d ago | Well said
Michael Pachter personally likes the services xbox is coming out with. He previously predicted that xbox live would attract a premium, classier type of customer due to having to pay for it, where PSN would attract everyone, meaning more kids screaming obscenities into your headset. Boy, Pachter you sure were right about that one, XBL couldn't be classier, with absolutely no screaming kids yelling the N word and other hate obscenities into your headset.

This is the problem with asking a non-gamer, old person who is out of touch with the gaming industry. Pachter doesn't have a clue what gamers want because HE IS NOT A GAMER. He likes social functions, TV tuning and Skype, like every other non-hardcore gamer out there, so of course he will predict success for the console he personally would buy. Notice he said Sony would have content (ie. games) as its advantage, but still wouldn't outperform Microsoft? It's because Pachter has the same mindset Microsoft has - games won't sell your next console, social features, tv tuning and skype will. Because people really buy consoles not to play games, but to talk to their friends and watch tv. Please.

The hardcore audience are the ones willing to pay top dollar for the next best console. Everyone knows this in the industry, and Microsoft has gotten greedy (as usual) trying to cater to everyone right off the bat. Cater to little kids is not how you sell an expensive new console. Little kids gasped the last time they saw a console that ended up with a 500 and 600 dollar price point, as if the paper route money and allowance would never pay for it. They thought to themselves "I make 70 bucks a month doing papers... it's going to take a bajillion years to get a PS3 now!"

Yes kiddies, it will take a bajillion years, and that's why no one is catering to you when they first release a console. They cater to you when they sell the console for half of its initial price, or if they were smart they would.
NateCole  +   657d ago | Well said
@irishguy. You want to argue numbers?. Ok.

Time on market
PS2 = 14 years
PS3 = 7 years

Numbers as of 2013
PS3 = 76 million
PS2 = 153 million

Yearly rate of sale
PS3 = 76/7 = 10.9 million
PS2 = 152/14 = 10.9 million

Launch Price
PS3 = 600
PS2 = 300

Current (2013) price
PS3 = 250
PS2 = 135

So basically at the current rate with the PS3 still a heck a lot more expensive the PS2 the PS3 will sell 152 million by its 14th year the same as the PS2.

Once the PS3 reached 199 then eventually 135 we will see this rate of sale increase further and Sony will sell more than 153 million PS3 way past the PS2 numbers.

I know you fanboys hate logic but Sony didn't sell 152 million PS2's out of the gate. It took them 14 years.

Once the dust settles the PS3 will sell more units than the PS2 which means Sony actually will gain a bigger userbase contrary to what you are saying.

You must understand that the console market expands every generation. The wii userbase are mostly new casual gamers. The x360 perhaps are mostly PC gamers and some mutli console owners who own a PS3 and x360 who use to own only a PS2. I am one such PS2 gamer. I only owned a PS2 because i didn't have a job then plus there were no real big games on the xbox i wanted. These two factors changed at the onset of this generation. I now have a job plus MS have done great and released some games that appealed to me warranting an x360 purchase.

PS3 is the only console that has enough tech and support to last another 7 years. This is a testament to Sony's foresight and their strategy for 10 year plus lifecycle.

PS is THE global gaming brand. Right now in developing countries they are just now starting to warm up to the PS3 and blu-ray because of lower price.

When all is said and done Sony will again sell at least another 100 million PS3 to make it a 3 peat.
Shadow Flare  +   657d ago
"Edit-- Oh really Mebeatdown...was that stupid? Ok.

After 6 years Ps2 sold over 100 Million. After 7 years it was 118 million

Ps3 is on it's 6.5 years btw. (77 million)"

Did you not read the rest of his comment?

PS2 achieved those sales by spending a large portion of its life under $200. PS3 hasn't even reached under $200 yet. It's kind of a big deal.

Apparently 360 is already $99. It's quite amazing that ps3 despite costing more then double the 360 is spanking it currently in worldwide sales. It sold roughly 50% more then 360 in February worldwide. Just wait till ps3 gets below $200. There is a heck of a lot of life left in the ps3
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MrBeatdown  +   657d ago
@Irishguy's edit

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"Edit-- Oh really Mebeatdown...was that stupid? Ok.

After 6 years Ps2 sold over 100 Million. After 7 years it was 118 million

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...

Ps3 is on it's 6.5 years btw."

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I said the PS2 was out for 6.5 years because it was only out in Japan for half a year. I excluded the Japan-only period so I wouldn't be taking away from the PS2 by making it look like it needed to be out everywhere for seven full years to sell what it did. I was pretty clear... "That's a full seven years if you take the early Japanese launch into account." If you want to call it seven years, go right ahead. It just makes the PS3's numbers look better by comparison.

As for PS3, it launched in mid November. That's two months shy of 6.5 years. Like I said "a little under six and a half years." And that's ignoring the fact that it launched four months late, and is still a few weeks shy of six years on the market outside Japan and North America.
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dale_denton  +   657d ago
Irishguy95 - SERVED
shoddy  +   657d ago
You all know pachter always predict the opposite.
PoSTedUP  +   657d ago
Patcher is up there with Charlie Sheen. plus we all know very little about A Lot right now.
TheLyonKing  +   657d ago
Nextbox do you even game?
slampunk  +   657d ago
What Irish guy is saying is that Sony lost a huge portion of marketshare this gen! Fuck brand loyalty here, its business...losing that much market in one gen is a fail no matter how you put it

Sony announcing first, new controller and also some better online capabilities is basically proof of their errors this gen and their willingness to address them.

Hats off to Sony for doing this....
MikeMyers  +   657d ago
With all of these comments it's very clear the console wars will continue on. What fun lies ahead.

The next Xbox could win but that is only if Microsoft can tap outside of the U.S. market. So far the PS4 looks very good but we don't know the pricing yet and very little on the next Xbox.
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Lvl_up_gamer  +   657d ago
I agree with Patcher.
HappyGaming  +   657d ago
The Xbox could be the Wii of the next generation. It would win in that case in terms of sales but I wouldn't care about it.

This is just a speculation.

I am waiting for E3 before I decide what direction I am going although if things seem equal again like the last gen I will have to go for the PS4 because I am all ready a fan of some Playstation exclusives.
rainslacker  +   657d ago
@Beatdown

You are right, however it's usually best to go by fiscal year, as it's consistent. In which case Sony is only down by 10 million during the same time frame. Also I think the 77 million is still speculated, but close to accurate. After the end of this month there should be an official number put out by Sony.

Either way, Sony's sales of the PS2 actually were about 15 million per year for 4 years after the PS3 released. If the trend continues with the PS3, then that will mean the PS3 is likely to be around 130 million after four years of the PS4's release, and make up another 20-30+ million by the time they retire it. All in all it means that the PS3 will likely sell the same number of units as the PS2.

Aren't numbers more fun, IrishGuy, when you actually use them in the proper manner instead of just cherry picking data?
jakmckratos  +   657d ago
@Irishguy95

The Wii stole none of SOny's fan base. Grandmothers and families bought Wiis. Not dedicated fans

Clearly Pachter is off his rocker. I don't know who will win. No one really predicted the PS3 to outsell 360 so how is this even something to pick before we even know what Nextbox is
That-Guy  +   657d ago
It's Michael Pachter. This was expected.
PSVita  +   657d ago | Funny
Well if he believes that then congrats to Sony.
Campy da Camper  +   657d ago
Win is a relative term. If next box sells more units but its highlights are social media while Sony sells less but has a butt load of games that are made for hardcore gamers, then I have no problem with people saying MS "won".

The gaming wars are so ridiculous that I do not take part at all. The sole reason I will by next gen is for good games. I don't care if a new system called 'Film Flam Head' comes out. If it has killer games and runs them all in 1080p with locked 60 frame rates then I will buy it.

Screw Facebook posts, tweets, angry birds. I want hardcore games. Infamous, any naughty dog game, the souls series, media molecule, valve these are the reason I spend money on gaming consoles. The only reason.
sobekflakmonkey  +   657d ago
I see what you did there, solid.
OcelotRigz  +   657d ago
Well said Campy, completely agree.

Its not a maths test or 'lets-share-everything' ; contest, gaming consoles are for gaming, so, i dont know, why not focus on making great games?!.

And also, "I'm going home to play my film flam head", just rolls off the tongue.
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TheRealSpy  +   657d ago
man do i hate the expression "hardcore."

i'm probably more "hardcore" into gaming than 90% of this community. to me, that means competitive multiplayer. i spend probably 60% of my time on pc, 30% on 360, and the last 10% on ps3 and vita. sony just offers me nothing in terms of hardcore-ness. killzone, uncharted, resistance MP...they're a joke. they are casual single player experiences that you are done with in 7 hours.

get off your high horse, sony guys. sony hasn't even begun to tap the market for "hardcore" yet. and games like GOW:A don't come close.
WildArmed  +   657d ago
@TheRealSpy

By that logic, 'hardcore' gaming started with the invention of multiplayer.

"Hardcore" has nothing to do with competition. Ugh, I really do hate that term.

I don't know how anyone can say Sony/MS/Nintendo have never catered to the gamers.

They each have defined multiple genres at one point or another.
bluetoto  +   657d ago
@spy
you're kidding right? You think MP only players are hardcore? You guys are the casuals! All you do is play one genre and ignore anything that doesn't have guns and explosions. You spend 60% of your time pointing and clicking and you think you're hardcore!? lol

I really hope they do a better job next gen with keeping SP and MP players seperate or at least optional. There are those of us that actually get enjoyment out of gaming without having to "prove" our gaming skills to others.
classic200  +   657d ago
If I was a xbox gamer I would not want him to say that lool, this guy is not always wrong but he his wrong 90% of the time.

Xbox can win america but not by much and the rest of the world is still playstation centered, asia and europe won't buy an xbox over a PS4 if the price is similar.
Twinzclipz  +   657d ago
i dont know why Americans choose an American product , this is Stupid
ICECREAM  +   657d ago
Pachter always means vice versa.
O, you little sweet crystal gazer.
shoddy  +   657d ago
I think most American choose what the media tell them to.

The media say it's cool then it must be cool.
iNFAMOUZ1  +   657d ago
twinclipz WHAT??

THAT IS the most retarded comment ever today, well including every sony retards comment on this story and past.
why do we buy american products? BECAUSE WE LIVE IN THE USA DURR AND WE ARE PROUD OT IT, MORON, at least us xbox fans aren't traitors haha!

why do you support a japanese company, the japanese have hated usa for centuries, always trying to one up the usa.

if you live in the usa and dont buy american products, then your the stupid one.
madjedi  +   657d ago
twinzclipz and infamous are both stupid you buy the products for the quality not country of origin.

Some companies get away with superior marketing -apple.

I buy sony systems because the games are killer, not because it's japanese.

Show me one piece of consumer electronics, that is actually made in america any more.

Shouldn't the title say he predicts to win the next console generation, he isn't choosing steak over lobster for dinner.

In regards to "winning" it isn't always a good thing, look at wii u and nintendo.

"why do you support a japanese company, the japanese have hated usa for centuries, always trying to one up the usa." Take a history lesson or 2 dumbass, we haven't even been in direct contact with japan for 2 centuries yet.

That is as stupid as still holding a grudge against britain for the revolutionary war.

Lmao at mr hardcore-ness up there. Clearly someone never played mag, because it's very competitive. You mention competitive and only talk about shooters, that is funny.
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Derekvinyard13  +   657d ago
What does he mean by win? Money or quality? Money - Microsoft, Quality - Sony, as long as Microsoft has people pay to play online there going to win money wise but you can't beat Sonys lineup of games there just phenomenal, I think this guys a clown anyway social features? C'mon pachter if you we're a real gamer you should know that's not what games used to be, and are about.
Conzul  +   657d ago
If it's Pachter speaking, he means money.

Sony will always win in gamer's ❤ hearts ❤.
OlgerO  +   657d ago
Good news my fellow PS fanboys. Pachter has predicted sbox to win the next generation, pretty much guaranteeing playstation to be victorious!!
Root  +   657d ago | Well said
Why would any gamer want a company that doesn't care about their core fan base to win next gen. I know fanboys will but I mean really, success deserves to go to the company that actually supports their audience, not screw them over for a new one. If he's talking about it in a bussiness sense then yeah MS will probably make the most money but in terms of quality and support Sony is going to win by a long shot. I mean look at the PS4 specs, it took in developers complaints and some of ours about the console, they learnt from their mistakes and listened to feedback.
raytraceme  +   657d ago
Xbox gamers don't seem to care about how the industry moves forward into the future. They tend to support a company who doesn't care about what gamers want (a variety of aaa games).

MS spends very little on developing core titles and have policies that disrupt 3rd development on other consoles. Yet their fanbase doesn't seem to complain.

2 theories about 360 gamers.

Kids who have never experienced ps1/ps2 platformers or

2 they got xbox just because their friends have it and don't give a shit about the industry.

Xbox and iPad are 2 products that are ruining this industry for the core gamers.
Root  +   657d ago | Well said
"they got xbox just because their friends have it and don't give a s*** about the industry."

So true, the amount of people who choose an Xbox over a PS3 only do it because their friends have one.

OR

It's because you have these people who class themselfs as "gamers" but arn't really, they just bought a console to kill time when their at home bored....the reason they went for an 360 is because it's cheaper for them. If you need something to kill time why pick something more expensive.

I hate when they do this and yet say the 360 is better, it's like "Your only saying that because you bought one"....seriously most of them wouldn't be able to actually give solid reasons about why they bought it in the first place. Then you get crappy status on Facebook like "Oh playing Fallout 3 at the minute, love my Xbox 360"....and your like "Oh f*** off your just saying that for attention most nights your in town drowning your sorrows with alcohol in town EVERY night, you don't have time to play on games or the money"

...<ahem>

Sorry...you brought up some stuff :D
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ThanatosDMC  +   657d ago
Why cant we pump more bubbles for Root? I miss old N4G...
kreate  +   657d ago
@ray

Ey man. I buy gold and played on xbl from time to time only becuz my friends refuse to get ps3s.

When I asked them why the refuse they told me they dont care about exclusives and that they hate the ps3. They couldn't tell me why they hate the ps3 though.
OSIRUSSS  +   657d ago
Haha!! Friends don't let friends go casual.
rainslacker  +   657d ago
If you want to liken it to a current example there is the Wii. There is no doubt that it "won" this generation both financially and sales wise, but for gamers, outside the Nintendo base that won't look at anything else, it went pretty much ignored by a lot of "hardcore" gaming community due to it's technology and lack of core support. Casuals loved it, and die-hard Nintendo fans loved it, but the overall feeling I got from seeing discussions on it was always a "meh" feeling.

It's kind of a shame really, since the Wii did have quite a few really good games on it, but for the most part the Wii was more of a joke this gen than I ever thought it would be.

I don't think MS will let their image of the Xbox get to the same level of the Wii among gamers, but I haven't put a lot of faith in them lately from a gamer's perspective.
Veneno  +   657d ago
Its soooooooooooooo true. Xbox gamers are ignorant of the industry.I bought my girlfriend a Xbox cause she really wanted that over al other consoles only because she played one because of her brother and her friends have one. I told her she can have all the same media apps as xbox has like netflix but you dont have to pay 60 bucks a year (shes actually more retarded than that and pays by the month.) To use them and online play is free she was like WHAT?!?!?! And shes always complaining about certain games that arent on xbox. Shes dumb.
showtimefolks  +   657d ago
ok and we are suppose to care because?

if sony keeps delivering games while MS keeps worrying about kinect,smart glass and exclusive dlc than i could careless who wins as long as gamers get games

every studio sony owns or has contracted is working on ps4 titles now that's saying something.

patcher is an idiot

wasn't it patcher who said GTA3 would sell less than 500K?

wasn't it patcher who said Houser brothers will leave RS at end of 2012 since their contracts were up?

patcher should be a spokesperson for MS since both like to make ignorant statementss
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Gildarts  +   657d ago
Everyone at Microsoft is making games for 720 too. Thats saying something. Ow wait i forgot its probably all Kinect stuff. Because that's what the PS4 Fanboys are telling me.
showtimefolks  +   657d ago
Gildarts

It's not any fanboys making claims ms only makes crappy kinect games to the fact they have only done that for last 2-3 years, ms sees casual market and now that's all they seem to care about and totally forgetting about core fanbase

I guess I am a spoiled gamer because Nintendo and Sony deliver games while ms delivers halo and epic deliver gears while everything else is kinect or exclusive DLC
madjedi  +   657d ago
@gildarts Look at the 360's library output for the first 3 - 4 yrs of it's life vs the last 3-4 yrs, if you don't see a significant shift that is worrying for 360 owners your blind as hell. I know this shit, and i haven't had a 360 for 2 yrs yet.

The last 3 e3's from ms have kinect buffets, it's not just ps4 fanboys(isn't even available yet stupid)

"Everyone at Microsoft is making games for 720 too. Thats saying something." Alot less than you think, what studio are working on what games, how much gameplay was shown any trailers.

We will see for ourselves at e3, but ms has gained a bad reputation of ignoring the core user to sell kinect to nintendo's wii crowd.

Did they ever patch steel battalion for voice commands.
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Snookies12  +   657d ago
Pachter in favor of Xbox does not bode well for them lol...
RandomDude655  +   657d ago
So Xbox being last place console next gen is confirmed?
madjedi  +   657d ago
@cchum that is mean, it has a wider base than nintendo and will at least be a next gen system.

It will do fine, unless ms pulls some very oddball or bad decisions.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   657d ago
These are Pachter's reasons http://stickskills.com/omeg... He is indeed making very bold claims He's says the TV Tuners and Skype are the winning factors. How does Pachter know Xbox will have a Tv tuner and is Skype REALLY gonna be all that big of a deal?

Listen I want MS to do well next gen but Pachter needs to understand its about the games first. MS needs to bring the first party games and cater to the gamers as well as bring the social, Skype features and Tv programming.

That is if MS wants to be taken seriously by gamers.
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This is great news! This means ps4 (the core gaming system) will win for sure!!

Thank you Pachter!! I love you!
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fermcr  +   657d ago
When Michael Pachter says something, it's always in relation to the American market. So yes, he is probably right. The next Xbox will probably win the next generation in the USA.

As for World sales, that's a different story.
3-4-5  +   657d ago
hey must have cut a bigger check.
kenshiro100  +   657d ago
...Oh great, it's Pachter again.
Well, if he says the next XBox will win, then that means the PS4 is in good hands. The opposite of what he predicts will come true. :D
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Eddie20101  +   657d ago
He's manipulating the market as usual. I don't know how he gets away with it.

Attention whore who rarely gets anything wright.

He is a bean counter who should not be trying to sway the consumer market, but that's exactly what he is doing.

I have boat and a large house and am a lawyer dammit. That's How Mr. Pachter thinks.
clearelite  +   657d ago
Wondering why you got disagrees when he is OBVIOUSLY a PR talking head.

Thanks for the confirmation pachy I was hoping PS4 would "win" next gen.
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Deku-Johnny  +   657d ago
Well if Pachter thinks Microsoft will win the 8th gen we can safely assume they'll come last.
ICECREAM  +   657d ago
Pachter said abracadabra.
Now ps4 victory confirmed.
nerdkiller  +   657d ago
patcher not even a real person his a fortune cookie for the video game industry with random opinions just for fun
kane_1371  +   657d ago
^^ this comment made me to log in.
Bubbles up sir, that was an entertaining comment :D
soljah  +   657d ago
no surprise here
ms has been kissing american media's asses for years.
pachter knows who helps him pay the bills
nosferatuzodd  +   657d ago
pay no attention to Michael pachter this guy is delusional
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Thirty3Three  +   657d ago
I feel like this guy just loves to troll. I swear, every article, mentioning Patcher, has him saying something that is totally either ridiculous, or the opposite of what would be true.

This guy needs a box of matches and some good ol' Crash Bandicoot TNTs waiting for him in his toilet.
nosferatuzodd  +   657d ago
wow you remember crash tnt, but i think the Nitro is better lol
Mounce  +   657d ago
He 'Chooses', he doesn't Know and likely didn't 'Analyze' anything....

He just went with "Inny Minny Miney Moe" and wants to see what controversy his words will spawn.
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erick21093  +   657d ago
Yeah, because we already know what specs and features it has already right? smh.. /s
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1Victor  +   657d ago
we all know that he's wright once a year but this isn't it, only a troll would call a winner before the systems are even shown.
aceitman  +   657d ago
tv tuner huh that's a really good idea , if the tv tuner stuff they have on the 360 already isn't getting people interested what makes them think it will be big and make someone go and buy it on the next xbox. apple tried it and its not selling well. ms will not get big like Comcast and fios wich offer so much . and Skype is pretty much on most devices already , they wont buy that for Skype. its all about the games and the gamers to make it sell. ms got a head start with cod and halo games its what blew them up being the only system out with the next gen in 2006, and gamers are what made it big . and now that sony has made it easy period to develop on the ps4 its a game changer, no more games with bad ports period which made some gamers buy the 360 over the ps3 . sony added features like the headset to every console from the controller so everyone will have a headset no need for Bluetooth, party chat with video even . we will se soon will u get cod where they can max at 30 players or 50 . or battlefield with 30 or 64 players that can also be the difference between better ram its time for hardcore upfront and make a comeback and keep the casual in 2nd . patcher should know that as much sony struggled the 1st 2years they came back from a year behind a higher price point and still building on the psn from the door and are either tie ,or a little under or a little over ms on sales .how can he say ms is going to win when sony is coming out 1st or near the same time as ms , with a system made to make everyone happy from gamers to developers . he is losing it, or he is looking for hits .
pain777pas  +   657d ago
Gaf exposes fakes and will not let these con artists off the hook. Doritos and Mountain dew anyone? LOL! This joke is going to die this gen. Guess what Pachter we get the demo disc generation back where you guys DON"T MATTER. Just be a family man Pachter. Take a load off and relax NOONE but silly investors care what you're spewing. GOOGLE and APPLE surprises incoming.
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Corax  +   657d ago
Can we wait and see both system first? GOSH!
andibandit  +   657d ago
People are declaring PS4 winner already, but honestly, is 3-4 iteration of kz and Infamous + some kiddie game(Knack) really enough to determine anything..... not really
Braid  +   657d ago
Who would buy the next Xbox as a TV tuner? I know I wouldn't. I already have cable and I don't even watch TV that much so thank you. I'm more about the games, I won't pay for a service that I'll skip using, for that matter the hardware is what I'm all about.

TV tuner, bluray player, streaming movie service, instant messenger, blah blah... You know what, I don't even care! We have a little thing called, you know, PERSONAL COMPUTERS since 1970s, which can provide all these services in a better and more efficient way. I don't care about "wave your hands in the air" Kinect either, as I absolutely give no baboon's arse about the new, integrated Move as well.

I'm a gamer, show me the EXCLUSIVES please!
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DonJogHurt  +   657d ago
One thing is for certain. Seeing how the 8th Gen of consoles plays out will be very interesting indeed.
Gimmemorebubblez  +   657d ago
We haven't seen the Next Xbox so who knows but I MYSELF am very happy with the Ps4 so far.
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AnteCash  +   657d ago
Michael patcher and his magic 8 ball, hes on his 5th ball by now.
Rageanitus  +   657d ago
The real winner is patcher himself. I wish I can have a job like his where I just spew out random thoughts even though he can be right an wrong half the time, and at the sametime make some monay.
Megaton  +   657d ago
Half the time? You're being too generous. He really has something like a 95% failure rate. It's quite astonishing. Your average N4G user gets it right a lot more often than him.
pandaboy  +   657d ago
Actually if you look at his predictions he's almost always right, you'll struggle to find me examples of when he is wrong. I'm with him on this too, I think microsoft is going to win the casual market.
fabod86  +   657d ago
He predicted PS3 and 3DS death after their rispective launches and some other bs that at the end were completely wrong... also i'm sure that he will fail on the Wii U death prediction too. ;)
LOGICWINS  +   657d ago
He's wrong most of the time in regards to gaming, but people forget that his repertoire extends far beyond gaming. The knowledge he lacks in gaming, he makes up for in other areas, which is why he makes six figures.
TechnicianTed  +   657d ago
'He's wrong most of the time in regards to gaming'

Well seeing as this is a gaming site it's the gaming that we are interested in. I don't really care how much he earns when all he does is spout nonsense about gaming that is wrong most of the time.
LOGICWINS  +   657d ago
You don't have to care, I was just shedding more light on the situation for Rageanitus who seems to think that Pachter's work is limited to gaming.
kwyjibo  +   657d ago
Michael Pachter's definition of "win" and a gamer's definition of "win" are different things.
DigitalSmoke  +   657d ago
Great point.
Godmars290  +   657d ago
Well said. Given the man's job his inclination is to look at what might benefit a company or the general consumer. Gamers he's totally clueless about.

If the next Xbox is a media hub, a cable box that gets tied to package deals with cable/internet providers, its likely going to be a great thing for MS. Will sell/lease plenty of consoles.

Like the Wii the people buying or leasing the next Xbox likely wont have much interest in games, be responsible for the further dumbing down and simplification of game mechanics, but the sales numbers will be a great thing for MS...
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paddystan  +   657d ago
Well said.

Im actually happy Pachter thinks Xbox will win next gen. Since Pachter has a failure rating on 95%, that will mean that PS4 will win.

But like you said, Pachters definition of winning and our definition of winning is two really different things.
aviator189  +   657d ago
Whoever wins or drags, this I know: I'll be getting both a ps4 and 720 next-gen.
thecurseddevil  +   657d ago
so...that means ps4 will sell 150 million units at least and xbox 720 will be the last xbox ever due to low sales.
sorry xbox fanboys, i hv nothing against you but patcher has spoken..im sure nobody wanted this..
Knight_Crawler  +   657d ago
So you are admitting that you are a Playstation die hard loyalist?
kenshiro100  +   657d ago
Knight_Crawler
What does being a Sony loyalist have to do with how silly Pachter's predictions are? Stop throwing around the loyalist term when you act the same exact way.
ichimaru  +   657d ago
someone please tells me what "winning" a gen is.more importantly why it matters to us
classic200  +   657d ago
Most popular idea of winning a gen is in sales but you can also win a gen interms of being the best for gaming.

PS1 and PS2 win there generation with sales and being the best at delivering games while the wiiu won with sales but in reality no third party support alone made them loose in the gaming department.
ichimaru  +   657d ago
I see. It just bothers me to see the industry and gamers so hung up "winning" as if these companies are sports teams. Most of us hold no stock or share in them but will go to legths of insulting each other over brand loyalty. Thats more of what I meant when i said "why does it matter". If I had it my way, so long as the market stayed strong, no one would win. the competition between companies would fuel innovation and competitive pricing, companies would have to watch what they say to uphold their reputation and put out and actual enjoyable product. thanks for answering though, I enjoy this part of gaming.

-ichi
classic200  +   657d ago
Well I think people like to know that the company that they are buying games or consoles from are selling to millions of people also. Its like having the VITA the other day but no sales mean no third party support hence a high level of celebration now when its selling properly in japan and recently doing great globally.

Another thing is that some people want to see companies fail if the company is not pleasing them, lots of people want EA to die off because of the mistakes they are making while people want take2(publishers of borderlands, GTA5,bioshock) to do well because they are just consistently delivering.
ichimaru  +   657d ago
I can agree with your first point strongly. sales means support from delevopers, something Nintendo isgoing to have to pull through, and I'm sure they will.

but as far as wanting any company to fail,. it strikes as immature or fanatic. EA failing and going under would do more harm than help. I hate thier tactics as much as the next, but they do provide a home to many many many devs and studios that would otherwise not have the resources to make the game they envision. without EA, some of our favorite devs might still be indie, or struggling. as THQ proves the market is unforgiving, everyone needs a home, even if it is in a terrible neighborhood. What I would rather see happen is EA change. a complete coup, people do need to get fired and replaced there. they do need drastically better customer service and finally a more developer friendly policy when it comes to how the people working on the games wish to distribute them.

=ichi
MontyQ  +   657d ago
is that ugine levy
ichimaru  +   657d ago
!!!! he does look like him

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MontyQ  +   657d ago
lol ya kinda odd how much too
PS4isKing_82  +   657d ago
Mind blown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
stage88  +   657d ago
This confirms that PlayStation will win.
HeroPsychoDreamer  +   657d ago
It's a win-win situation for the consumer
Megaton  +   657d ago
I'm not always wrong, but when I am, I'm Michael Pachter.
Gimmemorebubblez  +   657d ago
~He has Spoken~

LOl we haven't even seen the Nextbox and do not know everything about the Ps4 yet.
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KillerPwned  +   657d ago
Only time can tell.....in the end I honestly see no competition. All 3 major companies make out no matter what.
InTheLab  +   657d ago
Xbox Live subscriptions will prevent that from happening. There's too many out there that want free online gaming and you can get that EVERYWHERE else.

Also, MS failed to establish any new franchises aside from Gears this gen. There's really nothing exciting coming from them for the last 3 years.

Lastly, they're in last place now and barely beat out Nintendo a few generations ago. Unless they get major help from the media like they have this gen, the best they can hope for is 2nd again.
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Rainstorm81  +   657d ago
I agree and it doesn't help that developers are so in love with the PS4 architecture, even if MS has the US media on their side it will be difficult if Sony has devs on their side

It's amazing how well the ps3 is doing considering neither the media or developers didnt give it a chance.....maybe up until Uncharted 2
DEATHxTHExKIDx  +   657d ago
NO Patch once I have both 720/PS4 I will be the winner.
MasterCornholio  +   657d ago
And the Wii sold the most this generation but that doesnt mean that the other 2 consoles are crap. I honestly love my PS3 even though its not this generation most sold console.
Clarence  +   657d ago
Congradulation to Sony and the PS4. Tv tuner and apps will not help when next gen.
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Unicron  +   657d ago
I doubt any lead by either company would make much of a difference to gamers. Just like this gen.
fucadastates  +   657d ago
well, once more Pachter shows i knows nothing about anything!
jizzyjones  +   657d ago
Skype really? PS3 had a tv tuner id hardly say killer apps. Id say PSN+ value and 1st party games are the killer app's.
secretcode  +   657d ago
Seeing how easy it is to be a Video Games Analyst™, I shall now make my own predictions for this oncoming generation of consoles:

- The Xbox 3 will be known as the "Xbox: Electric Boogaloo", is shaped like a giant letter X, and is only compatible with TVs that have a PC monitor input. Also, it watches you sleep.

- The PS4 may have the specs of a PC, and may have similar architecture to a PC, but did you know it'll also play games like a PC?

- Not content with how people are comparing the tablet controller to the iPad, Nintendo will be releasing new models of the Wii U every six-to-eight months to further prove how unique the idea of a giant touch screen truly is. The Wii U will also be eventually semi-replaced with what is currently dubbed the "Wii U Nano".

- In a move that surprised no one, Activision revealed their first new gaming console. Named the "Cowadooty Machine 5000", it is the first coin-operated home-based gaming unit and will be released for a measly $3200 sometime in 2015.

- Also I guess there'll be a new Halo, Mario and Killzone game every couple of years or something. I dunno. I don't get paid to make up shit like some people.
givemeshelter  +   657d ago
Sounds pretty amazing...considering we know nothing about the next Xbox..Oh Patcher...Stop drinking the silly sauce..
Gr81  +   657d ago
LoL
Surprise, surprise.

Honestly, if he were more of an actual analyst instead of industry, corporate mouthpiece, he would actually wait until all consoles were introduced. We don't even know what the next M$ console is at this point.

This dude's a clown.
Gamer-40  +   657d ago
Maybe yes, maybe no.
Who knows?
X720 yet not announced.
Wait and see.
IIJOSEPHXII  +   657d ago
That settles it then...PS4 to win next gen.
FrigidDARKNESS  +   657d ago
This guy is always punch drunk. One month the ps4 will next gen console war the next month the 720 will win hes never consistent with his pre dictions. Lets just say hes the biggest flip flopper in the industry.
brave27heart  +   657d ago
Patcher supports it? Thats like kiss of death. The man cant get anything right. If he said the grass was green Id still want to look outside and check.
Tzuno  +   657d ago
Ha the guy is good at giving birth to controversy in the end this is how it earns his bread :)
baldulf  +   657d ago
Being and ignorant troll is not hard, being paid for it, on the other hand, is.
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