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Why We Are Taking a Wait and See Approach To The new Xbox System

Gareth at Skewed and Reviewed has posted an opinion piece on why he has chosen to take a wait and see approach to the new Xbox console regardless of the features and titles it offers. He cites past issues with box Xbox consoles and other factors as the reasons behind his decision.

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alousow1208d ago

not lot of core gamers happy about the next xbox. Cuz we all kno its going to be more kinect.

aviator1891207d ago

how exactly does anyone know anything?
for all we know, they're all just rumors.

are you really going to let rumors be a substitute for hard truth?

Cam9771207d ago

Look at the leaked documents SuperDAe received 20 years in prison for; do you really think MS would destroy somebody's life over the release of a fake document? It was real. Now, compare that to the PS4's specs and it becomes clear that the next Xbox is notably inferior to SONY's beast of a system.

Moreover, look at what the Ps4 has; video sharing (Youtubers will love this); instant game streaming; amazing Vita integration; amazing specs and a brilliant launch line-up. The Ps4 is going to be incredibly hard to beat in terms of what is up for grabs. Due to this people have focused on the PS4.

zebramocha1207d ago

@cam I wouldn't say "noticeably inferior" but they diverge on what their system is meant to do.

Enemy1207d ago

"How exactly does anyone know anything?"

You're delusional if you think Microsoft aren't going to expand their Kinect focus next gen. Simply in denial as it is the most obvious thing we could safely assume about the next Xbox.

knowyourstuff1207d ago

We have things called analysts, and they use company strategies to predict what companies will do. Microsoft has clearly been trying to compete with Apple and Google, as their executives have already stated. It isn't just Sony and Nintendo that Microsoft wants to steal market share from. In order to do this, Microsoft wants to cater to Apple and Google, meaning more social networking integration, more casual games similar to what you see on phones and tablets, more Kinect, more apps, more things outside of just hardcore gaming.

This is an effort to steal market share and the audiences from Google and Apple. Kinect was created to steal market share from Nintendo. What you're seeing is a company that wants to steal market share from everyone, and such you see the same strategy utilized on the 360 to continue on. Why would microsoft change a working strategy? They've sold a ton of consoles and stole a ton of Sony's market share away from them.

This is what's known as analyzing the market. Get it? Good.

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BitbyDeath1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

@Cam977, specs can evolve over time.
The main concerns over SuperDAe's reveal is certain features like having to install every game to the HDD and Kinect required to always be turned on etc.

Guess we'll all find out either next month or E3.

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The_Infected1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

Here's the deal all news so far with the next Xbox has been entertainment related. Xbox hasn't showed gamers they care. They recycle 3 exclusive games. If they care about gamers then they better show it soon because core gamers seen the PS4 and know they will be there with the best games and fully support core gamers not half ass support them.

I'm not a Sony fanboy but I will back the console who shows me they care about gamers the most and supprt them "first and formost" and then support entertainment not the other way around.

AngelicIceDiamond1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

@Kratos lol as usual u make no sense.

You and allot people on this site need to go to common sense school?

"Here's the deal all news so far with the next Xbox." "Xbox hasn't showed gamers they care."

Ok and what source is this? Proof? Oh that's right the used games rumor. That same rumor that popped up for Sony and Sony still hasn't completely ruled out.

"They recycle 3 exclusive games. If they care about gamers then they better show it soon."

Ok, considering MS focused on Kinect but didn't want to completely lose sight of the core they released Halo, Forza and Gears in which people obviously want and still sale very, very well.

Now

MS didn't have enough resources or studios to create new Ip's along side Kinect while releasing Gears, Halo, Forza all at the same time. Why do you think Sony barely uses, Move that would take up resources. And Sony rather use those studios to create new Ip's instead.

With that said MS opened up new studios so they can tackle more at the same time. I think its obvious MS wants to focus on Kinect, Entertainment and core gamers at the same time come next gen.

Which would be fine as long as I get new Ip's.

Just like everyone else on this site you see everything in a black and White fashion and fail to use educated logic.

As for being a Sony fanboy please don't lie to people. if that's the case then explaine this comment.

Article: "The PlayStation 4 is a Beast, Deal With it...

"They can't contain the BEAST!! It will come alive soon and be a force to be reckoned with. MS better bring more than Master Cheif his weapons alone have no chance:)" Agree (117) Disagree(57)

You swim in your own crap. your Sony fanboy through and through.

SDF Repellent1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

Well Said Angeliclec,

Here is what gets me with them hardcore Sony fanboys like Kratos_Kills and alousow, they keep recycling the same 3-5 phrases everytime they go of SDF mode. "Xbox hasn't showed gamers they care." "They recycle 3 exclusive games." and etc. Can't you guys at least be more original. It is like reading the same bad book over and over.

Here is a good example of how clueless some of them are:
"I will back the console who shows me they care about gamers the most and supprt them "first and formost" and then support entertainment not the other way around. "

This makes me LMFAO, Last time I'd checked, games are entertainment. smh

princejb1341207d ago

dude we just dont know anything about the next xbox
what if MS announces xbox live is going to be free next gen
what if they announce them developing new studios or dropping kinect because not many people seem interested in it
until ms announces the next xbox its specs and the kind of games it will be offering(expecting more halo and gears) we just dont know anything

The_Infected1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

Who cares if its free now they've already charged everyone for what 7 years? So acting like its such an amazing thing to get Xbox Live free after all this is just stupid. It should've been free in the first place.

Also when MS announces the next Xbox and you see gamers are treated last while Kinect and entertainment first in line then you going see. If that even happens but your right I don't know but it's a damn good guess.

princejb1341207d ago

@kratos kills

by everyone i guess you mean you
i refused to buy the 360 because i was not going to pay for xbox live. To me it just wasnt worth it

if it gets free is a good improvement and maybe gamers wont be as pissed all the time by calling people fanboys or n****s all the time in a online game

DigitalRaptor1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

Exactly what Kratos_Kills said.

Look at the facts. Microsoft have charged their fans $50-60 per year for the past 10 years for what is essentially the ability to use your own bandwidth (Internet provider subscription). Basic online gameplay is run using P2P technology which is not on Microsoft servers, but.. in fact look it up yourselves, you'll learn more.

If Microsoft make XBL free to play online (which they should, and it would be a GREAT thing for the industry), they would have to explain why they've charged you $600 over the past 10 years and they're now enabling the service for free. That can't be good for their PR, but it HAS to be done to move the industry in a positive direction and treat gamers with the respect they deserve.

The same goes for accessing services like Hulu, Facebook, Netflix, YouTube, etc. There's no excuse under the sun they could use to justify years of these unjustifiable charges, that most people would love not to exist.

Regardless of great games and services (which are important), their next console needs to have free online, fair services and hardware reliability as paramount, for me to consider investing. That mentality doesn't make you a fanboy, it makes you a smart, strong-willed consumer.

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@ Knight_Crawler (below)

Did you even read it? Where's the doom? Where did he say he hated Xbox? Did you miss the part where he said that his site will pick up the next Xbox regardless, but since they are a smaller site they don't always have the funds to get all or expect review-consoles for free?

"A real journalist or gaming website would buy all the consoles including the Wii U regardless because they have to experience everything and give us the news without being bias."

A film critic has to watch everything otherwise they are biased? You have to watch Piranha 3DD to know that Inception is a great film?

And I guess you think that all journalists are run by people working for huge outlets like IGN and GameSpot, right? They can instantly afford all consoles, rather than feeding their family and eating, right? Not all journalists are those of large scale advertising dollar status, with departments for each console like the aforementioned big ones.

Do you remember when people like yourself laughed off Paul Gale Network for revealing PlayStation All Stars before anyone else, then called Title Fight? http://paulgalenetwork.com/...

It's not just large sites that have industry sources. Where do you think the people who post on NeoGaf and Reddit get their genuine leaked information from, when they're nothing but a username?

givemeshelter1207d ago

@alousow
You're not happy with the next Xbox because...you know nothing about it?
Only on N4G.COM...Making assumptions based on...nothing. LOL

Bathyj1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

Actually it MS's pattern of behavior that has me taking a waiting and see attitude.

I dont really care what the hardware is like, I'm sure it will be more than capable. If its a little bit better or a little bit worse than PS4, it doesnt really matter to me.

What matters is MS's direction, being more concerned about casuals and Kinect, or apps for watching tv and movies than worrying about core gamers and only pushing their staple franchises over and over instead of offering anything new.

Thats why I dont think I'm interested in XB3 until they change their attitude and win me back. Thats based on the way MS has done business for the last 4 years and thats clear for everyone to see, not based on speculation about rumours, so I might be making assumptions, but theyre not based on nothing.

Knight_Crawler1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

What is wrong with this website sknr.net that they keep submitting the same negative Xbox articles?

http://n4g.com/news/1189326...

"Why the Playstation 4 and Not The New Xbox System Is the One We are Getting at Launch"

We get it you dont like MS or the XBOX...do you really have to keep submitting garbage to convince us to join your crusade and make the 720 a failure?

Posted by GarethVK - "We have talked with third-party developers who work on games for both systems. They have told us that while both have nice features, the PS 4 is a better system with more power and features."

You and your websiet are a disgrace to the gaming industry and the reason why the world does not take gaming serious.

A real journalist or gaming website would buy all the consoles at launch including the Wii U regardless because they have to experience everything and give us news without being bias.

Gareth I hope the few hits you get on your website was worth your integrity and dignity.

Garethvk1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

Where does it says we do not have all the consoles or will not be buying the new one? We had Wii U day 1, we will be getting the New Xbox. I am simply stating that we have had nothing but issues with the Xbox systems since day one and when they finally gave us a stable unit, I was not that impressed with what they offered nor the support provided by Microsoft. As such, we are taking a wait and see approach with the new one. Can you honestly say the Red Ring of Death was not an issue and that Microsoft did not handle the issue correctly?

Derekvinyard131207d ago

I feel Sony has the jump, might see Xbox at E 3

AngelicIceDiamond1207d ago

@alousow is a a trolling parrot who says the same thing over and over. "720 is kinect" "its all kinect" "no core games just kinect" blah, blah troll yadda yadda.

Of course Kinect is making a comeback next gen its about HOW it will make a comeback. MS had a bad year with Kinect only titles last year I'm sure they realized that now and will implement it in a different way.

So can we get smart and make realistic assumptions about MS and Kinect? Of course not its N4G...

Gildarts1207d ago

Do not believe this guy he's a liar he's not a real journalist, real journalist wait till the product is actually released before they judge it. The Xbox 720 is not even revealed yet, for all we know it doesn't even exist. He knows nothing he's just going of of rumors. Real journalist buy the console at launch even if it's not as good as the other one.

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Garethvk1208d ago

They need to do more with it. As you can see, we had several issues with the Xbox and had it not been for Dance Central, we would likely not have given the 360 another chance. That is really the only thing we play on it now aside from Halo 4. I will try the new Gears though.

greenpowerz1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

How many times is this dude going to basically post the same crap? It's just attacks with ps3 fanboy talking points disguised as concern. Just an excuse to preach fanatical rhetoric.

We get it people on that site don't like xbox and will wait for their/people's socks to be blown off before they stop the anti MSFT crusade.

We understand. You're excited about PS4 and you'll do anything to stop MSFT from topping Sony again. It's obvious ps3 fanboys are stealth trolling trying to condition what people should expect from the 720 in a in vain effort.

He keeps talking about past xbox issues that were fixed many years ago preaching soft anti MSFT scripture that is double standard at best. He probably got PS3 without thinking about PS2 issues. It's clear some Sony fans will be trying to use fear mongering and scare tactics in New smear campiengs. This is a back up plan just in case MSFT shows Sony up

If Sony had any games in 2012 especially during the holdiday I imagine PS3 fanboys would have more to do them chest beat over the savior PS4.

All excited about games and specs that may or may not come to fruition due to Sony constantly over promising and under delivering. Boasting Sony games and the supposed lack of MSFT games when Sony prematurely announces games for hype having to can them or repeatedly delay them.

Garethvk1207d ago

Get over yourself and go play Halo 4. Most people agreed with my PS 4 post yersterday, your in the vocal minority.

aviator1891207d ago

Ok...I didn't have anything against you with your earlier submission or even this submission as it's all really just your opinion, but your reply to greenpowerz comes off as a bit...rude for someone who has his own website and attempts to be professional in method.

Telling someone to beat it and "go play halo 4" just because he or she is in the "vocal minority" is cheeky and disrespectful, imo.

SignifiedSix911207d ago

*You're.

for being a journalist, you should know the differences between "your" and "you're".

Gildarts1207d ago

Gareth stop lying, you are not a journalist. Just stop it dude. Most people agreed with you because N4G is 60% made of PS4 fanboys. For a "Journalist" you are really unprofessional. Stop submitting the same posts. stop writing articles based on nothing. Stop just stop. You're a disgrace to game journalism.

DigitalRaptor1207d ago (Edited 1207d ago )

Here we go again with the insecure rantings.

Basically anyone who doesn't share the same affection for Microsoft business tactics as you is considered a ps3 fanboy. Ignoring the fact that most of us game across the spectrum. I play PC, I have played Xbox in the past, same with Nintendo and Sega etc. I'm used to open standards and business practice that isn't present in the Xbox ecosystem. The fact that I love PlayStation is enough for most people on here to call me a fanboy even though I game on multiple systems. So to you, anyone who has any doubt in Microsoft is a fanboy? You're ridiculous.

MS have done questionable things this generation and even last generation's Xbox, so it's normal to be questioning of them with their next box. It's normal, and I think even the die hard Xbox fans should be questioning why it costs $60 per year to access the P2P functionality of game's you've already spent money on, and why it costs money to access Facebook, Twitter and YouTube etc. You should also be questioning their motives on rushing out hardware irrespective of reliability and also be questioning their direction in terms of treating the Xbox as a casual entertainment machine rather than gaming. They have yet to prove their direction, but there's nothing wrong with holding back when you've been burned once before.

What Gareth says is true and his opinion and decision based on past experience with Xbox. It's smarter to ask questions than blindly follow, but it's clear you prefer that.

"You're excited about PS4 and you'll do anything to stop MSFT from topping Sony again."

And you're scared that Sony actually are in a position in which that might happen, even going as far as pretending that "on paper" specs are lies, and that not showing the plastic exterior of the game means the console doesn't exist, which is laughably desperate.

"If Sony had any games in 2012 especially during the holdiday I imagine PS3 fanboys would have more to do them chest beat over the savior PS4."

Sony had more retail games in 2013 than Microsoft. Twisted Metal, Starhawk, LBP Karting, Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One, Tales of Graces f, MLB 12: The Show, Jak & Daxter/Ratchet & Clank HD, Yakuza: Dead Souls, PS All Stars Battle Royale. Even one of their download games, Journey, won best game of the year from multiple outlets and beat out Halo 4. Keep living in fantasy. In fact Sony bring out more games on PS3, with even more platforms to consider, whilst MS bring out less games with only one platform to consider.

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Feel free to critisize, but I am keeping an open mind to the new Xbox, whilst remaining conscious of the strategies that have developed on Microsoft's part. If I have to pay to access the online parts of games I already own then it's an absolute NO. The games could be spectacular, and I'd still abide by my morals, as a consumer.

Karpetburnz1207d ago

@greenpowerz

Its Ironic that youre bashing someone else for hating on the next Xbox when youre just a pathetic Xbox fanboy yourself who hates Sony and PS4, looking through all your recent comments it seems your just a Micosoft troll, you even troll on Playstation articles.

You have no right for calling out someone as Sony fanboy when youre the biggest Xbot troll on this site.

solidworm1207d ago

Again another solid piece from someone who actually looks beneath the surface. Excellent stuff.

Gimmemorebubblez1207d ago

I think this article raises valid points, the Xbox has had its fair share of problems but I would still reserve my judgement for when the Xbox 720 is unveiled. As I've said before Microsoft is successful for a reason so don't discount them just yet.

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