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Submitted by Karooo 592d ago | news

'PS4 will out-power most PCs for years to come' - Avalanche Studios CTO

"Sony revealed the PS4 at an event in New York last month and it managed to impress a lot of industry people. Linus Blomberg, CTO and Co-founder of Avalanche Studios, is one of them." (PC, PS4, Tech)

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Walker  +   592d ago | Well said
Yes, PS4 will do it !
decrypt  +   592d ago | Well said
"PS4PC will out-power most PCs for years to come"

Decrypting statement... heres what they really ment:

"PS4PC will out-power most Non gaming PCs for years to come"

Of course it will out power the office PCs with integrated GPUs or your grandmas net book for that matter.

However against a gaming PC there will be no contest. PS4PC will be a low end gaming PC itself essentially hence will stand no chance against any decent gaming PCs of its time. Just like the PS3 before it.

Its hilarious how hard Sony is trying to just create hype for the PS4PC. The media have tried every trick in the book to brainwash the herd, god this must costing Sony hahaha.

@below

Naa, Dota 2 here

How is COD going? are we waiting for the next rehash haaha.
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HammadTheBeast  +   592d ago | Funny
Enjoying Sim City there?
kayoss  +   592d ago | Intelligent
Try buying a more powerful gaming pc for under $600 then let's talk.
joab777  +   592d ago
I am not saying that u r wrong, i am saying that u cannot say that for sure until we are able to see it running and see how game developers use the new architecture. It isnt architecture that exists anywhere yet. And many ppl play games on pc but dont have the high end pcs.

Anyway, it shouldnt matter because pc will benefit from better consoles, as they drive software sales. Yeah, the best pcs will still have display and graphical options that the consoles do not. But, i will say it again, not everyone cares or can afford it. I have a pretty good pc and for many games, i love it but i love my console too. And in many cases, games are ported and look better. Now they will be better too.
asmith2306  +   592d ago | Well said
Define "PC" please. If you can find a gaming rig that can out muscle the PS4 at the same price then I will be all ears.
SilentNegotiator  +   592d ago | Well said
Hint: Most PC gamers don't own an expensive GPU or Alienware.

The idea that every PC gamer owns a $200+ GPU and consoles are "holding back" PC is perpetuated by Elitist Scrooges that think the average person should own a $800 or more system.
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Raccoon  +   592d ago | Well said
@decrypt no explination is needed as its common sense that the majority of PCs are not made for gaming or power demanding tasks therefore making the ps4 more powerfull...

you want to know why the ps4 is simply better than highend gaming PCs? because the ps4 is one dedicated product which means better use and optimization of the specs by some of the best first party studios.

we also have a dedicated price that im sure will be under 600usd so while your blowing months of rent on one machine im only spending a weeks pay which will last me 10+ years of dedicated content from first and 3rd party devs.

some praise brands, some praise power and while some even praise sales I will always choose to praise gaming....
PSN-JeRzYzFyNeSt   592d ago | Trolling | show
sourav93  +   592d ago | Funny
WTF is a "PS4PC"?? When you use quotation marks, you're not supposed to change the text from the original to your own retarded version.
BrianC6234  +   592d ago
Why waste money constantly upgrading your PC if you can buy a PS4 for what you'd pay for a top graphics card? It's a waste of money to spend so much money upgrading your computer every year or two.
WrAiTh Sp3cTr3  +   592d ago
"Define "PC" please. If you can find a gaming rig that can out muscle the PS4 at the same price then I will be all ears."

If you can tell us the price of the PS4, I will be all ears.
vulcanproject  +   592d ago
If you can tell me how much PS4 will cost and how much the games will cost etc (apparently neither will come cheap)

Than go nuts.

Its the age old, well console costs X amount less to buy compared to gaming PC!

(Ignore how much console games are for the entire life of the system here and what a PC actually is and can do besides)

It actually took about a year for Pc to outpower xbox 360 and by the time PS3 launched it was already ahead.

A year after PS3 launched cheaper PC hardware was already quite a lot faster e.g 8800GT
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morganfell  +   592d ago | Well said
As someone that grew up on PC gaming it's amazing to watch the desperation of people like decrypt.

If you think studios and publishers give PC gaming the backseat now, just wait until the PS4 hits. Backseat nothing. You will be lucky to get towed behind the gaming car by a 100 ft rope.

And remember - PC gamers themselves are to blame. With their lack of willingness to buy in volume (money talks and BS walks), their outrageous piracy rates, their insane configurations, and their constant bellyaching over why they can't run DOS games 15 years later, or why their $300 Walmart special won't run Crysis 3, PC gamers demand the most yet offer the least in return.

Don't tell me WHAT YOU ALONE buy, rather realize you are part of a demographic. You know, the ones that for the most part DO NOT OWN Quad GPU systems. I have that in my Falcon rig but I am far from being the average PC gamer.

I have never, not ever, seen so many Developers so thrilled about the hardware in a console. Usually there are murmurs and complaints about choices. Not this time. Not even close.

PC gamers are about to be shown the door again and no amount of attacks on inbound consoles is going to change that one iota.
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SnotyTheRocket  +   592d ago
Why do you keep saying PS4PC?
Larry L  +   592d ago
I'm not, nor have I ever been a PC gamer. Throughout the years there have been a couple PC games I've been dedicated to, but the last one I actually owned was UT2k4. Though I have played and enjoyed some more recent PC games like STALKER and The Witcher. So basically I don't know jack for the most part about technical specs in terms of what's-what on PC, so what I'm going to ask is a serious question because I honestly don't know, but.................

Isn't PS3 more powerful than an equivilent PC? I know PS3's proccessor in terms of raw speed is still faster than most other chips, but all the "chokepoints" basically makes alot of the speed pointless, and it's GPU is lame and it only has 256Mb of RAM and 256Mb of vRAM.........more specifically my question is: Could a PC from 2006, with a highly restricted proccessor to GPU through-put, an equivilent to PS3 GPU and 256Mb of physical RAM run games that look like Killzone 2/3, or Uncharted 2/3, or play Crysis 2/3 and BF3 on equivilent graphics settings to the PS3 versions of those games?

I honestly would love to know, but I can't imagine on the box for the PC version of BF3 and Crysis 3 is says next to minimum system requirements "256Mb of RAM" or even "512".
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PeaSFor   592d ago | Trolling | show
T900  +   592d ago | Well said
Lol @ people trying talk down PC from a cost perspective.

I could build a PC now with 600usd that would beat PS4 in the CPU department and Rival it in the graphics department.

Heres a link to one right now:

http://www.tomshardware.com...

However this is now, 9 months later the same 600usd will get you 30-40% more performance.

People always seem to ignore the fact that console games cost too much.

Rumor has it next gen games will cost 70usd. Hell people even seem to ignore the fact that consoles arent backward compatible.

Anyone who bought 40-50 games this gen has got to be thinking about the lost investment when none of them will work on the PS4. Thats about USD3-4k worth of games. However they are fast to point out PC costing 100-200usd extra, funny how some people reason.

@morganfell

You seem darn insecure over the whole issue. If anything it seems console makers have finally bent and gone the PC way with them finally embracing X86.

Seems me we will be getting more games optimized on PC then ported to consoles. Consoles going X86 is amazing for PC.
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DigitalSmoke   592d ago | Bad language | show
Muerte2494  +   592d ago
Two factors...
First factor
PC elitist compare the locked in hardware of the ps4 to the absolute best hardware on the market for PC in terms of performance. Two years past and those same elitist compare the same locked-in, ps4 hardware to the best PC has to offer that year. They're always comparing a constant to the best case variable at the time.

Second factor
PC is still considered an afterthought when it comes mass market games. You're spending $200-$300 more dollars for slightly better frame rates and higher resolutions. Windows also cripples GFX cards heavily. Piracy is far more widespread on Pc than consoles. Publishers have a far better chance of seeing a return on their investments if the release the game on consoles instead of PC. Outside of Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2, there weren't many PS3/360/PC games where PC was the lead platform.
BattleAxe  +   592d ago
Lets look at it this way, currently if I play GTA4, Rainbow Six Vegas 2, Battlefield: Bad Company 2, Metro 2033 or Crysis 2 on PC, they do look better than the console versions with better looking textures and frame rates, but at the end of the day, you are still playing a console game.

Its pretty safe to say that the best bang for you buck is to own a PS3 or a 360 instead of shelling out a bunch of cash for a mid to high end PC. Going into the next generation, the PS4 will be a dedicated gaming machine, which the developers will be able to use to surpass most gaming PCs out there, and there will be no compatibility issues, no Punkbuster issues, no firewall issues and far less cheating than what you see on PCs.

The best way to think of a PC, is to compare it to an old Chevey 350 with a carburetor, which is very in-efficient and is a gas hog, whereas the PS3 and the PS4 are like a finely tuned Audi R8 with a fuel injected 4.2 Liter V8.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   592d ago
HAhahaha! LMAOOOO @decrypt...
Why are you and other PC gamers so upset about the PS4's power?

Finally a developer says what I've been saying all along. When next gen consoles release they will essentially be high end PCs at bargain price. Will there be PCs more powerful than the PS4 and next Xbox? Sure there will, but how many PC gamers will own a PC of that caliber? Not too many and it'll certainly be a couple years before a PC of PS4's caliber becomes standard among PC gamers. As of right now very few PC gamers if any at all have a PC that out powers the PS4.

I seriously don't get why PC gamers get all defensive when it comes to consoles out performing PCs anyway. We all in 3-4 years you guys will eventually get the cash to upgrade your PC to out do the PS4 so why cry foul now when you know years down the road you guys are going to be crying about how the outdated PS4 and next Xbox are holding PC gaming back.

Save your whining for the future.
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Ducky  +   592d ago
@Larry L
"Isn't PS3 more powerful than an equivilent PC?"

In terms of gaming, yes, the PS3 can do more because it is mostly dedicated to gaming. A PC on the other hand, has to deal with applications running in the background along with an OS.

@Morganfell
"If you think studios and publishers give PC gaming the backseat now, just wait until the PS4 hits"

... The PS4 is very close to a PC in terms of hardware. Wouldn't that just increase the number of PC <-> PS4 ports?

The PS4 hardware was good news for both PC and PS4 gamers because both the PC/PS3 suffered from poor ports this gen, but the new hardware should alleviate that.
The PC gamers that are trying to downplay the PS4's specs are being pants-on-head retarded, but you're not any better either by trying to downplay the PC fanbase of games.
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yeahokchief  +   592d ago
@ decrypt

DotA2 - PS4 - 2014
givemeshelter  +   592d ago
@morgan

You work for Sony Morgan so your point of view on this is pointless...and saying that, we ALWAYS hear this PC IS DOOOMED because of the power of these consoles WHEN THEY LAUNCH. Then 1-2 years later, they are obsolete. This happened with the PS1,N64,PS2,XBOX,PS3,XBOX360 at launch...and it will happen again when the PS4 and the Next Xbox launches. People like you will say exactly what you just posted...and as the norm it will be false.
Morgan, stick to posting on a dedicated Sony site...or I assume you get paid by Sony too post elsewhere...
All I know as a PC gamer foremost, I am excited as hell at the specs of the PS4 because this will also push PC gaming. It works hand in glove. No more piss poor ports for the PC early on. Lets hope MS does the same with the Next Xbox.
Its a win win...Sorry Morgan, PC's are not going anywhere despite your rantings.
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Shadow Flare  +   592d ago
One thing I'm going to hate about this generation is having pc fanboys join in these forums.

I've never associated the 2, console gaming to me is its own field and pc gaming is a completely different field like handheld gaming is. To me anyway. We don't get a lot of the pc games and pc doesn't get a lot of the console games.

Why do pc gamers think we care how powerful their pc is compared to a ps4? In this generation, when I compared ps3 games, I compared them to other console games. For me ps3 and Xbox were what you compared. PC to me can just stay out of the picture, it's not a console so why compare it?
AnteCash  +   592d ago
Well im having Both PC and PS4 , and il leave you fanboys to your pointless war.

So much ignorace from both sides.

I have a PC with ati 6770 , amd x4 3.2 gz and 4 gb ram, so i dont have i7 intel, 690 gtx ,16 gb ram(even tho no game on pc uses more than 5gb ram gb) like the WAST majority has in their PCs...

Instead lest be happy that games will look like Deep Down (done on early ps4 dev kit)by the end of the year.

Related video
vulcanproject  +   592d ago
I like the fact PC games are probably going to be a lot, lot cheaper and that the PC game I bought 10 years ago still works on the brand new system I just built.

It is always gonna be a hot topic, but I must say that the people most informed, realistic and understand both sides best are usually the people who are actually PC gamers, because they often have a console as well.

What do they say about having kids?

YOU JUST DON'T AND CAN'T UNDERSTAND REALLY, til you have them :D lol
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JsonHenry  +   592d ago
LOL! The PS4 has a GPU that is OUTDATED already by two generations of PC hardware and it hasn't even been released yet. I've had 8gigs of DDR3 RAM in my PCs for over 4 years now. The only reason I haven't upgraded beyond 8 is because NO GAME uses more than 3.5 currently.

Will the PS4 be a beast of a console? Hell yes it will! Will it out-power most PCs for years to come? Yes- NON GAMING PCs. Will it outpower current mid level gaming rigs? NO. It is already outdated even for current mid level gaming let alone mid level hardware 9 months from now.

This isn't me ragging on the PS4. (I am extremely excited about the PS4!!)It is just a reality check from someone who knows a few things about PC hardware.
ziggurcat  +   592d ago
@ decrypt

what's even more hilarious are PC elitists (like yourself) going well out of their way to downplay the PS4's power/capabilities.
MysticStrummer  +   592d ago
PC gamers need to get a few things through their heads...

1. Better graphics don't mean a better game (check GotY awards)
2. Piracy holds back PC gaming, not consoles
3. Most people have no interest in building and upgrading a gaming PC
4. Buying games cheaper makes you less attractive to devs
5. Having all that power is a waste if few devs use it

"How is COD going? are we waiting for the next rehash haaha."

There are no mindless shooters on PC? lol Riiight. Don't be mad just because our mindless shooter is better known than your mindless shooter.

Edit - Point 4 up there is like this - PC gamers are the people who wait for CDs/DVDs/Whatever to hit those big bargain bins at Walmart. The people who made them are glad someone bought them, but not as glad as if they were bought at full price. You'll never have full dev support with that bargain bin attitude.
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solidt12  +   592d ago
Not everybody who PC games has the latest high end video card. I game with a GTX 560ti but most of my friends that PC game way more than me has a video card older than mine.
NewMonday  +   592d ago
@decrypt
and supercomputers will always outpower PC's.

the point is what is the best deal for the average gamer who can't afford to spend 1000$ every 2 years to maintain that power gap.
SpinalRemains138  +   591d ago
someone didn't read the 'deal w/ it' article.

Go back to your uber Crysis settings. You know, the one justification for your thousands of dollars.

You play that game and we will play the hundreds of great games that PS4 will provide.
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RememberThe357  +   591d ago
Anyone else read through half of this and realize how f*cking stupid everyone looks?

Guess what? When you buy your new super cool PC thats better than everything on earth, your going to be having just as much fun as the people who bought a super cool world beating PS4.

You guys are dick measuring and arguing over milimeters. Put your dicks away and play some videogames!
@kayoss

"Try buying a more powerful gaming pc for under $600 then let's talk. "

ok..
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

AMD FX-6300 6 core desktop cpu > 8 core tablet cpu.
8gb ddr3 ram
7850 Overclocked.
120GB SSD

Price $535

Just saying you said to find one.

I would wait till next years when ddr4 ram & grrd6 gpus comes.

But still ps4 day1!!
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RyuCloudStrife  +   591d ago
PS4PC?? WTF are you smoking. Never dare to compare the PS4 to a PC as stated in this article as documented irrefutable proof, the PS4 is much more than a PC.

Go fap at how good Crysis 3 looks, before the PS4 releases and obliterates it.
Amsterdamsters  +   591d ago
To the people responding to decrypt, why would the PC have to cost less than $600? I have a PC that is more powerful then the PS4 and it was less than $1,000 1 1/2 years ago. However, my PC runs literally millions of programs, how many programs run on the PS4? My PC even lets me run software that I've been buying for the last 20+ years, yet the PS4 wont even let me play any of the games I've bought for my PS3. Face it, the PS4 is a video game machine, nothing more. In 3 years time, you'll be able to purchase a low end gaming machine for less than $500 that will be more powerful than the PS4, yet a PC does far more, so it's worth more.
dale_denton  +   591d ago
haven't been here in awhile, mr. decrypt.. SERVED
MAJ0R  +   591d ago
Just saying that the PS4 will "out power" gaming PC's upon release is far fetched, but to say that it will do that for years to come is just hilarious. More so considering the fact that the PS4's CPU would be equivalent to what would be present in a laptop.
listenkids  +   591d ago
You also get COD.. What sort of retarded comment was that? Besides the point, even the ps3 outperforms every none gaming pc at this point, you couldn't even run warcraft on a sub £500 machine on max. Now, get your head out of your arse PC fan boy, and come back when you have a respectable line up of games.
fatstarr  +   591d ago
ps4 will be the most powerful system untill 2020 when the ps5 comes out.
no pc from 2019 will dare match up to the power that is the ps4 in 2013.

^^ how sony fans think based on the disagrees on the comments with the most facts.

also almost any game can be run on a sub par pc, at some lame 800x 600 resolution.
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cjflora  +   591d ago
This article is flame bait and you let them get to you.
husomc  +   591d ago
what he meant was PC gamers have to play the crappy non optimised ports that we make of the console versions.
Rainstorm81  +   591d ago
UUUNNNNLIMITED POOWAAAA!!!!!

http://youtu.be/e_DqV1xdf-Y
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scissor_runner  +   591d ago
At the same price as a ps4..... Like you know the price plus gt690 will be on sell by then. This is just for the video card...
Dude420  +   591d ago
Wow, I just came in to take a look, then witnessed an astronomical amount of BS in this thread. I find it hard to believe most of you have lives when so obsessed about hardware wars. Almost every post reminds me of this...

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Seriously guys, take a walk outside, come back and enjoy playing a video game.
Sy_Wolf  +   591d ago
@Joab777, the architecture has existed for a long time on PC. It's an AMD APU, nothing special.
NewMonday  +   591d ago
@shutUpAndTakeMyMoney

but you forgot a few things:

* Windows OS
* GDDR5 is much more expensive than DDR3
* WiFi
* power supply
* case
* Motherboard
* mouse+keyboard

the cost is now about 900$
_-EDMIX-_  +   591d ago
the thing many of gamers seem to be disregarding, that in order for PC to have any of those high level enthusiast PC's even brought to there limits they need game publishers and developers to make that level of content to begin with.

2. someone mentioned having a PC on here that was over 1000 dollars and beat a Playstation 4. so what you're telling me is that 160,000,000 people will own that very same PC or equivalent in the next 5 to 6 years? if it's estimated that 60,000,000 people own a gaming PC's, how many will truly only own enthusiast PCs like the fancy 1K one mentioned? it doesn't take much in order to max out most games one doesn't indeed need that famous 1000 dollar PC.

that reason alone is why most publishers won't support development of a game for a enthusiast PC. which brings me to my third reason.

3. It has nothing to do with the level of power it has everything to do with how many people even own that much power. The only reason the number of PC's being developed specifically for gaming has risen, is because the prices of these PC parts are lowering and developers are scaling games better on PC to capitalize on newer GPU features ie DX11 and low budget indie titles have open source platform to make money on etc. I doubt the sales of AMD and Nvida GPU's for the last 8 years reach 160 million.

PS4 will probably do a couple million over any GPU to release in the same amount of time. its sales will decreased the cost of most of this hardware better than any company could ever do. developers have a better incentive to develop for a system with actual REAL sales. so its a couple million with enthusiast PC's VS a potential 200 plus million install base on consoles.

It's not that the hardcore enthusiast PC's are not as powerful, its that not enough people own them to even care about developing for them. The idiocy that comes from someone complaining about the power of a PC that barely any one even exclusively develops for, even less developing specifically for extremely high end. it's almost like me stating " your 1000 dollar PC is complete utter garbage, my workstation PC has a 4 terabyte SSD and a 16 gig vram GPU and 64 gigs of ram" if you could find whats strange and odd about that sentence you can now find why majority of this bickering is quite useless and silly. PC gaming needs consoles to get to developers to start developing with better hardware, consoles need the PC to keep pushing this technology and the industry. If there was no PC gaming it would be no target for Sony or Microsoft to make there systems on, nothing would really stop them from continuing to make underpowered systems if you couldn't get more power elsewhere on PC's.

PC's keep companies like Sony and MS on there toes. ie, Sony and MS MUST release a PS5 (next MS system) etc because come 7 years, PC's will have that 8gigs needed for gaming as the norm, mainly because of the nextgen push that will happen with 3rd party developers. Once they start porting to PC fomr PS4 and 720, expect the new norm to be 6 or more gigs. Now that 8 gigs isn't just a "high end" thing, it will actually start being used in PC gaming development.

thus it all comes around full circle. Consoles get the numbers up in terms of tech, publishers port to PC, PC now upgrades tech to match it and so on. Of course in the next 3 years or so you will see some BEAST PC games, but look at it this way, someone has to let MS and Sony know its time to upgrade. LOL.
SonyAddict  +   591d ago
Well I most definitely will get a ps4 and am saving up for a $1.400 gaming rig which will probably wipe the floor with your outdated PC
HeHe!
ps3_pwns  +   591d ago
hows sim city and diablo 3 going for you buddy? drm all over your games bro.
AntBoogy90  +   591d ago
I actually agree with you decrypt.

By the time the PS4 comes out, it will be using a mid-end video card from last gen, whereas today it would be using a high-end video card from today's gen. And PC gamers will keep updating their rigs.

Not knocking the PS4, the performance it will bring will be quite a wallop for console owners. I only hope they experience 1080p 60fps games just as much as us PC gamers.
Denethor_II  +   591d ago
"Enjoying Sim City there?"

I am very addictive.
Seafort  +   591d ago
@Muerte2494 "Outside of Battlefield 3 and Witcher 2, there weren't many PS3/360/PC games where PC was the lead platform."

PC is the lead platform for Ubisofts new game , Watch Dogs.
The PC is always the lead platform or have you forgotten all console games are developed on PCs? They are just dumbed down for consoles with lower res textures to fit into their memory then the devs work backwards to upgrade the graphics again for PC. It's very counter productive.

@MysticStrummer "How is COD going? are we waiting for the next rehash haaha."

There are no mindless shooters on PC? lol Riiight. Don't be mad just because our mindless shooter is better known than your mindless shooter."

That mindless shooter you talk of was a PC exclusive game. It came out first on PC many years ago but Activision has been milking the same shit to console gamers for years now. It actually had a long single player campaign and not this 4-5 hrs crap we have now.

Btw the closer consoles get to becoming PCs the easier it will be to pirate. I guess you didn't think of that, right? :P
I'd stop blaming PC for piracy as that's just gonna come back and bite you on your ass for this next generation.
Lior  +   592d ago
Wow sorry but the ps4 is already out powered, intel i7 extreme series is the fastest CPU out there beating amd and the ps4 has a mid end gpu like a gtx 670 when we have the gtx 690 which is more than 2.5 times more powerful.
zebramocha  +   592d ago
What's the price for the CPU?and how likely do you believe there more people with a gtx 690 in comparison to a gtx 670?most people know that PC's will out perform consoles but what holds pc back are API overhead,drives,no standards hardware so a developer could maximize the hardware.
imdaboss1  +   592d ago
I dont know why fanboys bring up how this chips out outperform the ps4 and etc ..no crap but how much are you guys spending on it? its sad when pc owners dont now what they are talking about ..when their pc dont even come close to the PS4 specs..
SilentNegotiator  +   592d ago
What part of "most PCs" didn't you understand?

The average PC gamer doesn't have a i7 and gtx 670 or anything near it.

You're insane if you think GTX 670 is "mid end"
BrianC6234  +   592d ago
We? Good grief. I think you're in denial though. The PC industry is dying. It used to be about making things bigger and faster but that ended a few years ago. Nothing much has changed lately. Not enough to get most people to upgrade. I built my computer about three years ago and it's good enough for everything I need. I refuse to waste a lot of money upgrading it every year or two. Better to spend a little on a console and not worry about upgrades.
valanceer  +   592d ago
Sony hasn't release what gpu they're using so keep your mouth shut on that topic. place is crawling with pc gamers since ps4 was annouced.. guess they're scared... hahaha
EeJLP-  +   592d ago
A 670 costs ~$360 (for 1 single component)
A 690 costs ~$1000 (for 1 single component)

Yea, you probably could have a PC that is more powerful than a PS4, but currently that PC would be thousands of dollars and you'd be .00001% of the PC gaming community vs. 100% of PS4 owners having the same hardware.

These 'but PC could possibly potentially if you're a millionaire be faster' arguments are dumb. decrypt, Lior, etc.
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MysticStrummer  +   592d ago
I see. You think listing one computer somehow disproves the guy's statement. You're very wrong. Your logic is like the person who says "There is no Global Warming because it snowed at my house today."
Amsterdamsters  +   591d ago
I'm finding the replies to Lior here very amusing. Do you people take everything that Sony tells you as gospel. Do you really think that Sony has some magic that allows it to have a system built (by others, as Sony doesn't build them) cheaper than what any other company out there can have them built for? I have a high end PC, 360, PS3 & Wii U. I guarantee that my PC is more powerful than the PS4. Not only that, but my PC lets me runs literally millions of different programs. How many will you be able to run on the PS4? The PS4, like the 360, PS3 Wii U etc is a video game machine. People who think that the PS4 is the most powerful thing on Earth are extremely ignorant. Also, don't forget that Sony hires bloggers that also go into groups like these to talk up their systems. Don't buy the hype.
listenkids  +   591d ago
Gtx690 vs Gtx670 which games would you notice differ heavily? None. Games aren't optimized for a high end pc, never will be.
Rainstorm81  +   591d ago
@Amsterdam

Put down the bowl and listen carefully...........the only reason anyone here is talking about the PS4 IS because its a GAMING CONSOLE!!!!!

Isn't that why we are here? GAMING?! Why would anyone HERE care that a PC can run other applications? NO ONE wants a PS4 to run MS Office.....We want it to run HIGH END GAMES!

Buddy I think you are here arguing for the wrong cause, we know its only a gaming machine AND that's why we want it because when it releases it will have the POTENTIAL to be the best at what it was built to do..........PLAY GAMES......**jeez** o_O
scissor_runner  +   591d ago
The i5 keeps up with the specs of the ps4, i7s are in laptops now with slightly better video cards. What will be funny is when the ps4 is included in pc chip benchmark web sites then we can see what these apples produce.

Unfortunate Sony can't buy off pc reviews for hype.
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3-4-5  +   592d ago
Most yes...only because most aren't top of the line.

Day 1 it will be underpowered compared to most PC's......but every gaming console ever made is like that so it's nothing new.

That being said.....I'm, for the first time ever in my life, actually excited for a PlayStation Console.

I'm still leaning towards Xbox just because that is what I've had..that or a Wii U maybe, but the PS4 impressed the heck out of me and I can't wait to see what it can accomplish.

The PS4 is really good for the gaming industry and I support that 100%
MysticStrummer  +   591d ago
"Most yes...only because most aren't top of the line.

Day 1 it will be underpowered compared to most PC's......but every gaming console ever made is like that so it's nothing new."

Those two statements seem very contradictory.

I didn't press agree or disagree, but I agree with the top statement. That's the point PC gamers here don't seem to get. Just because they upgraded their rig doesn't mean everyone did. With a PC you can keep your rig ahead of a new game's system requirements, but that's usually going to mean you have substantially more power than you need. Devs aren't going to put in extra work to squeeze more out of a game than most people will ever see.
imdaboss1  +   592d ago
its funny how pc owner comes out all the sudden and say PS4 is outdated when your pc is..Face it the PS4 is a powerful high end Pc..live with it..I bet you none of you suppose pc owners have the same specs as the PS4..you know why ? because its not even out yet.. if you are truly a pc gamers good luck spending thousand of dollars knowing most developers wont take advantage of it.
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bumnut  +   591d ago
My PC is outdated? I play my games at 2560 x 1440p, Consoles can't match that. Before you mention 4K, no games will run at 4K except something crap like tetris.

It you think you are going to get something that matches a $2000 gaming PC for whatever PS4 costs you need help.

Im getting a PS4 because I like playing games and I refuse to pay MS's 'internet tax'

Do I think it will beat my gaming PC? no, but I don't expect it to.

Will I still have fun playing games on it? Yes
Muffins1223  +   592d ago
Maybe in ram for a year or 2 but not in the gpu or cpu...
solid_warlord  +   592d ago
Oh no PC geeks are in rage mode now. What do u expect, consoles are mainstream. Its were the money's at. Most people prefer consoles. No need to upgrade every year or so. No need to open ur PC, an averge People get intimidated. For noobs who attempt it first time will prob will have to upgrade ther power supply if they don't have enough power, CPU and fan heatsink too as it can also be bottleknecking. Too much work for an average consumer to easily move to PC gaming. In Consoles, u just boot game..No need to mess around with any kind of settings ect. Consoles will always be ahead in that department atleast.
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Derekvinyard13  +   592d ago
Avalanche c'mon guys what are you doing stop stirring stuff up
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1up  +   591d ago
i dont know what that dev is smoking and half these fan boys too. the dev probably got paid from sony to make that comment about the ps4, that sort of thing happens a lot more then u guys realize.
to me it looks like sony finally caught up to pc's. and trust me an 8 core sub 2ghz cpu, an already out dated gpu and eight gigs of ram is already out dated when it comes to gaming pc's. and pc gaming is realy taking off globally because gamers actually know the difference between consoles and a great gaming pc, which a lot of u seem to not understand the differences because your ignorant.
just enjoy your games and dont listen to the flame wars, because in the end a gaming pc will always beat a console hands down when it comes to performance, enjoy your 1080p res games locked at 60fps or lower and get over yourselves.
ICECREAM  +   591d ago
@1up

Yeah, go buy $1200 piston, you really deserve it.
ICECREAM  +   591d ago
welcome to the real world where you can have fun and games.
Man overboard.
solar  +   591d ago
Believe nothing til benchmark's. Along with every piece of hardware no matter who makes it.
kikizoo  +   591d ago
LOL@unsecure fanboyz, especially the xfans, so desperate by last war, that they are choosing pc to troll the ps4 now.

by the way, people comparing cpu, etc with existing pc cpu are stupids, since nobody knows the ps4 jaguar 8 core for now.

When a new generation is starting, consoles generaly have better graphisms for 4,5 years, before best pc can play some games with better graphisms (and thingk : now, same games with better resolution would not count anymore like "better graphismes", since consoles = 1080.)

it's funny to see guys erasing last 10 years (or any generation) from their memory, with cell (used for supercomputer, etc), games award, etc, to only remember last 2,3 years with pc best battlefield, crysis versions XD

kamikaze : " but the PS4 will never be capable of doing anything better than a PC."

watch dog video say hello..

"Ps4 emulator will be there soon enough, maybe 2-3 years after ps4 release. "

failtroll..even 10 years after the ps2 death, best pc has difficulties to emulate it, stupid.
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husomc  +   591d ago
"graphisms" :P? is this a new type of orgasm ?
Canary  +   591d ago
The PS4 doesn't out-power my PC, right now.

And mine is mid-range gaming PC.
SkyGamer  +   591d ago
How is laptop specs going to outpower a gaming PC? My friends Mac has a 7970m and he bought it over a year ago! Wow! The fanboyism is just downright silly. It has gotten to a point where it is just ridiculous. Just saying that a Cell CPU with a PowerPC core at 3.2ghz with 6 spe's clocked at 3.2 ghz each and then a LAPTOP 8 core AMD MOBILE cpu clocked at 1.6ghz. DON"T BUY THE HYPE!
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Ragthorn  +   591d ago
Not to start a war, but a PC is the way to go in the long run because parts costs add up, then you have online distributors who sell games at a very low price. Most new games drop to 50 bucks after the first week, so its good in the long run. But hey, if you don't want to do it that way, I won't blame ya as I started a console gamer but found my way to playing PC. Though, I will be buying a PS4 for the great exclusives Sony has every since PS1!
ATi_Elite  +   591d ago
The Glorious PC Gaming Master Race!
" I’m glad Sony decided to go with 8gb RAM because it means that the PS4 will out-power most PC’s for years to come."

1. Ram doesn't determine the power of your PC as that is determined by the power of your CPU and GPU!

2. The PS4 can't out power neither one of my Current PC's.

3. any PC using a current Gen Intel and a mid level Nvidia or AMD GPU is more powerful than a PS4

Now if this is the type of PROPAGANDA needed to get console fanboys to run out and Buy a PS4 then so be it.

I laugh and find it totally disrespectful as it plays to the ignorance of consolers but hey I guess it won't be long before consolers say the PS4 can cure cancer and Terraform Mars while using 2011 technology.
MYSTERIO360  +   591d ago
You PC gamers should be happy that PS4 has good specs considering that now game developers will be making better games for both. They may even port more games from PC to the PS4 now that the PS4 architecture is more similar to a PC.
SpartanQ8  +   591d ago
Some people here are desperate for fanboy war that they create one for ps4 vs pc :))

When xbox announce here is the ultimate classic war for fanboys everywhere
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hivycox  +   591d ago
I don't think so..Even today there are many PC's which outperforms the PS4 easily!
FanboyPunisher  +   585d ago
impossible; physically impossible for PS4 to outpower any decent PC.

PS4 is using M versions of gpus and lowend cpus.
lololol
Kamikaze135  +   592d ago
Ehhhh...no.
The_Infected  +   592d ago
Yea because you know more than a Developer right? They're making the games so they know.
Kamikaze135  +   592d ago
Because developers have been wrong before. Stop blindly following what every developer says.
The_Infected  +   592d ago
Either way they no more than us. So that makes others right when they claim it want be as powerful as a developer says it is? A developer that's even a 3rd part developer?

Anyways the developers are the ones who brings the games so you PC guys want be maxing out God of War series, Uncharted series, The last of us, or Beyond: Two Souls any time soon since you want ever have them:) Then PS4 Killzone: Shadow Fall, Dive Club, Knack, etc. you may have the edge on resolution and possibly frame rates but you'll never have Sony's games:)
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Monolith  +   592d ago
And your username is kamekazi.
Plus I don't know why the PC nerds started this ps4pc shit because last time I checked when you boot up a PlayStation it reads Sony computer entertainment.
You guys act like your clever or something. Isn't anything with a chip pretty much a computer. Idiots I tell you!
Oh I guess its supposed to be an insult. Lame.
SatanSki  +   592d ago
That doesnt mean they tell the truth. Actually devs mostly lie
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Kamikaze135  +   592d ago
@Kratos_Kills

Like I said: they've been wrong before....plus they are trying to sell you on their products, so you expect them to say otherwise?? Also, PCs can easily be upgraded to outperform a console. I'm psyched for the PS4 and I'll even admit to being a Sony fanboy, but the PS4 will never be capable of doing anything better than a PC. And when people compare PCs to consoles, they mean mid-high end rigs...which can already outdo the PS4 in their current state.

@Monolith

Yeah, PC is a PC. It doesn't need to compete with consoles. Just like handhelds aren't competing with with consoles. It's stupid to try and compare the two.

PC will always be more powerful than consoles because they can easily be upgraded, but current gen consoles are powerful in their own right. Just like handhelds are.

@SatanSki

I agree. I think sometimes they either say these things because companies request that they do it in a more indirect sort of way. Or they say these things out of ignorance.
delboy  +   592d ago
@Kratos

Ps4 emulator will be there soon enough, maybe 2-3 years after ps4 release.
That's the best thing about ps4, it is x86 based,so no problem to emulate.
CapsLocke  +   592d ago
@Kratos_Kills

We might never get some or all of them, but do we really need them as we have a much much larger games library? The games you pointed are just a few, besides they're more of interactive movies then playable games - I want to play a game, to directly interact with world, but not watch endless cutscenes and perform quick-time events (press X to win).
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aGameDeveloper  +   592d ago
There are currently about 1 billion PCs in the world. How many of these currently out-power the PS4? How long will it take for "most PCs" to out-power the PS4? Wouldn't you say it will be many years to come?...
TurboGamer  +   592d ago
*Sits down with a bowl of popcorn*
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Reverent  +   592d ago
I'm ACTUALLY sitting here with a bowl of popcorn. Small world Lol.
scott182  +   592d ago
Oh crap, another flame war article.... This is gonna get messy.
cedaridge  +   591d ago
Already have BUT I'm learning alot.
aquamala  +   592d ago
"most PCs" I agree, because most PCs are not used for gaming, they are used for web browsing and email. of course PS4 would be more powerful than most PCs, but a mid range gaming PC today is already more powerful, specs wise.
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LessThan2Tflops  +   592d ago
So true, a PC with PS4 specs can't max out games today
raytraceme  +   592d ago
Please elaborate. My gtx570 which is less powerful than the ps4's gpu can max out crysis at 1080p with 30 fps plus. Isn't Crysis 3 the best looking game on the pc?

Also my gpu maxes out bf3 at 1080p 60fps. Isn't it the game that has some of the pest physics in a game to date???
TechnicianTed  +   592d ago
@raytraceme

I've got a gtx570 and I can't max out Crysis 3 and get a decent framerate. I don't even get near 30fps, and that's on a 1440 x 900 monitor. How did you manage to get 30fps+?

This benchmark article has the 580 struggling as well, which is more powerful than the 570 -

http://www.techspot.com/rev...

I mean, I don't even consider 30fps playable on pc really, I prefer 60fps. But my 570 chokes on Crysis 3 maxed.
raytraceme  +   592d ago
I use the lowest aa setting I believe. Everything else is maxed. Also I am not a 100% with 30fps but in terms of input lag it's much lower with my ds3 on my pc vs playing crysis 3 on my ps3 on a 120hz acer monitor.
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BitbyDeath  +   592d ago
Most PC's aren't used for high end gaming. But then no games are made for it either. The best rigs will always be held back by the majority.
_-EDMIX-_  +   591d ago
To my understanding, PC gaming rigs have a 60 million or so install base, which in turn means that even LESS actually have "High end" or "Beast" PC's.

Thus, the PS4 WILL be more powerful then MOST gaming PC's JUST based on that those gaming PC's (in terms of High end) won't just reach 100 million PC's, mind you they didn't with ALL PC GAMERS period, how can they have all high end PC's over a PS4?

This is why PS4 having such power is a big deal. When PS4 and 720 reach 200 million install base, you will have the most "High end" gaming machine install base.

Never mind that 3 or 4 million people will have HD 9870's and GTX1000's etc. Means nothing if no developer will even exclusively support it.

The real problem with PC gaming in terms of exclusive content comes from the fact that the install base is quite fragmented. You have AMD/Intel, HDD vs SSD etc, but that is actually the least of the problem, its the fact that pretty much anyone who builds a PC will chose what they want in it and don't want. Thus you end up with 4 users wanting 4 different PC's.

MS did 2 things. They added DVD and not ever 360 had a HDD. The market has now been fragmented. GTAIV can not be made with 25 or 50gigs in mind, cause they can't make it on the 360, it now has to be made with 7gigs in mind. The rest of the game can't be installed cause not ever 360 user has a HDD (another fragmentation)

Now if this all happened with just a single consoles, think about the millions and millions who game on PC's?

Gamers with Laptops, gaming on Apple's, gaming on low end, high end, CRAZY 4 TB SSD, 6gig GPU high end!etc. So how can they make a game to take advantage of a system that they don't even know just how much of the market even owns said components? They knew roughly how many 360's did't have HDD's and it STILL hindered GTAIV, so....how can they do this on a PC?

Your answer...they won't. If they do, its multiplatform and its the bare minimum of what is known for PC gamers to have as the norm. This gen it was 4 gigs, thus 4gigs was only RECOMMENDED NOT REQUIRED. Not even Crysis requires 4gigs. Thus they can't take advantage of a peice of tech the install base ALL doesn't have. They couldn't with GTAIV.

PS4 is a big deal because every PS4 that is sold will be a beast high end machine. We won't get a "6gig" here and a "3gig" there. EVERY PS4 WILL HAVE THOSE SPECS, thus developers and publishers need not rack there brains on weather the install base has this or that. They just do.

Now I say this as a PC gamer too. I own PC, consoles and handhelds etc.
Gimmemorebubblez  +   592d ago
Look I think the biggest confusion is around the whole Teraflops issue. Just because a a machine is clocked at 1.8 teraflops doesn't mean it cannot render graphics as well as a machine running at 2.8 teraflops. Heres an example: The Ps3 is has 2 teraflops in raw power and the Ps4 at 1.8 teraflops and the Ps4's games look much better. So just because this years mid-range Radeon has more teraflops doesn't mean it will produce better graphics. Besides this I still find it hard to believe, I think Linus Blomberg was referring to most commercial mid-range PC's but than again when you see the Last of Us and the Opening Sequence in God of War 3 and you compare them to games running on PC rigs 10 times more powerful, the game on the PC rig does not look 10 times better. Its amazing what developers can do so who knows? Maybe some Ps4 games will look as if they are being played on Geforce GTX Titan (Its very far fetched)?
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leogets  +   592d ago
well said that man. let the PC eliteists fans begin lol
reynod  +   592d ago
Yea we all heard that. Console optimization. Until good old 8800GTX came along beat the crap out of the 360 and the PS3.

No amount of optimization could save the 2 of those from the 8800GTX. History has a way of repeating itself.
scott182  +   592d ago
I have a 9800GTX, that thing was a monster when it came out. It still gets me through some power hungry games just fine. Love that thing.
scott182  +   592d ago
Yeah, I think good specs are a great thing to have. But what the industry needs are talented developers. Sony seems to have some really good developers working on their games, kinda cool what they got out of the PS3 hardware.
SAE  +   592d ago
PC is more powerful and anyone says otherwise is just acting stupid. But when you look at the ps3 it have more great games then the pc. These are facts. So if i were you guys instead of complaining just get both.If you can't then get over it and just accept your choice instead of fighting others for stupid reasons.
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Software_Lover  +   592d ago
More great games than the pc?

That is subjective in itself. But the PC has far more exclusives, you know, the ones you guys hark about so much between the ps3 and 360 fanboyism. So that is the only fact. But Better games, is subjective.
Gimmemorebubblez  +   592d ago
I completely agree, I have a mid-range gaming PC and a Ps3 and love them both.
SAE  +   592d ago
Most pc games are not interesting to me. The only games i would play in it are witcher 2 and Metro which are coming to the consoles. I would love to be proven wrong though..

When i search for the best pc exclusives i don't see anything interesting to me. If i had money i would buy a gaming pc for multiplatforms to play the better versions which completely worth it because of how the big difference between them and the console versions . That's why i said more great games in ps3. I don't need to mention the Ps3 exclusives because they are famous and great..

Note: PS4 release will be good for pc. Games won't be limited. At first there won't be any difference between the versions but after 2 years developers will start improving the pc versions even more just like what happened before. So all will win. Ps4 is a good step for gaming.
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Ragthorn  +   591d ago
I agree with Gimmemorebubblez, I love my PC/PS combo, got the best of both worlds. I have a high-range gaming PC though, with my Steam loaded with games, just because the were on sale :)
Ragthorn  +   591d ago
While I agree that PC is and always will be more powerful than the consoles, it does have alot of great exclusives to mention. A few to mention series are like Deus Ex, and Diablo. Some great PC exclusives are: PlanetSide 2, Guild Wars 2, Starcraft 2, ArmA 2 and 3, Cobalt, and DotA 2. These are but some of the great PC exclusives that we have, I love my PS but come on and give the PC some love. :)
Th4Freak  +   592d ago
While I do not agree with the article I totally agree with you and i've said it before ( http://n4g.com/news/1185069... ), PC's are and always will be more powerful than consoles, the thing is that consoles market is way more profitable than PC market so game devs optimize and take the sh*t out of consoles to make games look great while PC only have a few games that really look different from consoles.

So my point is what's the deal to have a PC that's 10x more powerful than a console while there are no games that take advantage of it? 98% of the games look just like current-gen consoles with a 6 years old graphics card so my question is what are you going to play with your super graphics card? What game will take advantage of your $700 graphics card? Crysis? Ok what else?
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Software_Lover  +   592d ago
Crysis
Battle field games
Arma
Tomb Raider (thankfully)
RTS games
GTA IV is a great example of pc power

Add to the fact that most of the games that are on console/pc run at higher resolutions, higher frame rate, and have better effects on pc. But you are right, you cant really tell that much of a difference on most.
Th4Freak  +   592d ago
No, the only game that really steps out of the line is Crysis but the rest only have small things like larger render distance, more objects in the ambient, etc. Im not talking about these things im talking about polygons, brute force, where are these next-gen models and textures? Where are these amazing physics and AI?
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CheexInk  +   591d ago
Almost every game does look better. Even if nothing else has been done to a game they will have better resolution+anti-aliasing, AF, framerate, and almost all of them will have higher resolution textures since when you do that kind of art you start with high resolution and lower it down to get in whatever performance window you need for the console.

And when you go beyond that, part of PC gaming is modifications. You can find all kinds of graphical enhancements for PC games even when the developers don't officially support modding. If you want an incredible example go look at what EnB and other graphical mods has done for GTA4.
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DeadlyFire  +   592d ago
PS3 has 400-600 Gigaflops at most. It was sliced down from a 2Tflop GPU down to that.

Much less slicing this time around.

Still I agree it is likely to render things much more efficient than a typical PC. Unreal 4 was said to require 2.5 Tflops for 30 fps for Samaritian demo. If PS4 can do it with 2 Tflops at 30-60 fps then its a big deal. Infamous Second Son video seems to replicate the same effects in some ways.

PCs sure are entering up to 5 Tflops range for single video cards soon though so I wouldn't say all gaming PCs are inferior in anyway.
Ju  +   591d ago
PS3 can do a combined 400GF with SPU/RSX, 200 each. PS4 does ~2TF (10x more than RSX or CELL) with GPU alone. No performance numbers were given for the CPU. But 8 cores with AVX extensions can be quite powerful, especially in a high bandwidth environment with GDDR5 memory - even thought those are low power cores.

The UE4 demo was ported in a couple of weeks without any optimization. I guess this will quite improve over time.
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x5exotic  +   592d ago
OMG SO MUCH PC BUTTHURT
Zha1tan  +   592d ago
So much single platform poverty gamer butthurt.
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Mr-SellJack  +   592d ago
Poverty?Console gaming costs more..look it up but atleast they get more in return aswell as a superior product an example of a broken pc game would be the current simcity.Gaming PCs only have two better things which are better online,and better gfx that's it whereas a playstation console has free online,better games(not just gfx),more users,more artistic games,more dev support,blu ray,better exclusives,a single store for games,trophies,ps move,the studio themes....
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x5exotic  +   592d ago
I got a mac, this runs every game you dream of playing.

No but seriously Sony costs much more. We have pirated copies for xbox and pc so I can buy 60 games for the same price of one PS3 game.

Huehuehuehue
Zha1tan  +   592d ago
As predicted the average N4G user cannot even read a simple sentence.

The comment was in reference to me noting all the single platform peasants of the gaming arena (includes PC superiority complex) who argue which is the better system while I simply possess all the current platforms.

So keep arguing over which is better while I swap between platforms at will and have access to all the greatest games you have heard of and have not heard of.

PS4 on launch? 700 series GPU on launch? New Xbox on launch? sorry all you who strive to prove one platforms superiority over another have just realised your own folly.
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Halochampian  +   591d ago
Whats with everyone in here saying the SimCity is a broken game? Sure it had server issues due to overload the first few days but it's gotten much better. Blame EA for that.

But the game is actually quite amazing.

@Biscuitlover

PC has free online as well.

Better games? That's up for debate but a PC has a broader range of games. And you can play any game that has ever came out for one dating back to forever ago.

More Users?
I don't know about that. At peak hours today.. Steam had 5.8 Mil people on and that isnt counting the millions that play on origin or Blizzard games. Battlefield BC2 is dead on consoles and still chugging along on PC.

More artistic games?
Really? This is the one thing I see out of Indie Developers on PC more than anything.

Better Dev support?
Depends on the dev. But the modding community on PC is unmatched.

Blu-ray?
Umm.. I can easily have a blu-ray drive on my computer. It wont affect my gaming any though.

Better exclusives?
Up to debate. But PC has ARMA, Chivalry (fun-ass game), Total War, Civilization. Those are just some of the recent ones I have played.

Single store for games?
Almost every single game you could want is on Steam. This is really reaching.

Trophies?
Steam has achievements.

PS move?
More of a negative. If you really must need motion control. You can do some cool things with a Kinect connected to a PC.

Studio themes?
You're kidding right?

I use to be a hardcore console gamer but even since I got myself a nice computer rig, its hard for me to go back to consoles except for exclusives.
andibandit  +   591d ago
PC ROFLPWNS PS4, this article is a joke
scott182  +   592d ago
You know what I play on the PS3? Chrono Trigger! Who gives a crap about specs, make me some fun games! Screw all the social crap and online crap and 8 gb's of insane whatever ram.
kookie  +   592d ago
lol
delboy  +   592d ago
Sure thing,it has 8gb super fast ram, and supercharged cpu lol
Sony make.believe brain wash machine at its finest, like cell and 4d gaming.

No way in hell, ps4 is outdated and it's not even released yet.
And multiplat games like Crysis3 and BF4 will prove it.
Software_Lover  +   592d ago
supercharged CPU? Its a mobile 8 core apu downclocked. Hardly super.
-Falaut-  +   591d ago
"Its a mobile 8 core apu..." okay, NOW you're talking out of your ass. Yes yes, its a slightly better chip than we see in netbooks right? fuck...
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1up  +   591d ago
to the sony fan boys. its no secret that the ps4 is using amds lowest price cpu for 2013. do a goole search for amd's jaguar cpu, it will show a cpu lineup for amd's 2013 cpu line up. and guess what? it was intended for tablets and low end laptops. do yourself a favor and look it up, the facts are freely available to u.
landog  +   592d ago
1.6ghz mobile cpu, lol....the ps4 is an ipad with an mediocre gpu

i can build a pc for $300 that is better right now if i buy used parts
saint_seya  +   592d ago
I can build a computer that smarter than u.. well a calculator landog.... and in not even talking of a very advanced one.. go troll somewere else ?
Get a life, or your comp doesnt have fun games, maybe 4k computer has nothing to offer u, more than web browsing and spamming ps4 threads...
spektical  +   592d ago
well the ps4 will beat low tier gaming rigs for like 2-3 years in terms of specs. This is already known to happen with consoles.

Many have said it before the best gaming combo is a mid-high end rig with a SONY console. You get the best of both worlds
nigelp520  +   592d ago
IMMA LAY BACK AND SEE WHERE THIS GOES
Silly gameAr  +   592d ago
Oh Hell. He shouldn't have said that.
Jek_Porkins  +   592d ago
Aren't the PS4's specs a few years old already? I think the headline is a little decieving to say the least. Maybe some non gaming setups, or stock Dell PC's. I know a few people with $1200+ setups that had those specs outdone over a year ago.

That is the thing with technology, by the time you come to market there is already something better.
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MontyQ  +   592d ago
im sure my 2 year old pc blows ps4 outa the water and back

i7 2600k@5hrtz
2 GTX 580s in SLI
16GB ram
liquid cooled

ps4 aint gonna touch it

hell the ps4 would not be able to max out tomb raider the oc version it would run it on medium at best.

maxed I mean full on ultra DX11 trassFX hair and all the jazz
Software_Lover  +   592d ago
what these kids fail to realize is the ps4 is still having a hard time getting 1080p and 30fps as was seen with the killzone demo. I play BF3 in 1200p with 60+ FPS and everything on Ultra or very high, including AA and other filtering. Games can look good and run low frame rates with some effects turned off or very low, that is a console. But higher resolutions, more effects, are what the pc stands for.
MontyQ  +   592d ago
yup agreed I also play at 1920x1200 and every thing ultra in bf3 and use vsync to lock me at 60fps no issues at all, don't think the ps4 could even do bf3 at 1080p 60fps on ultra everything, if it could ppl would not build customs pcs, and yes ppl 60 fps vs 30 you can tell the difference even thoes ppl who say the human eye cant see part 30 fps, sure maybe but my eyes can sure see the smoothness in the difference.
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Evil-snuggles  +   591d ago
Software you are delirious and misinformed The PS4 doesn't need a high end CPU it's Not a PC these high end CPU are for multitasking You sounds ridiculous it doesn't have processes and program Running in the background as a PC it doesn't have a huge OS like a PC And a game on top that you are comparing apples to oranges The PS4 is Optimus for gaming and no matter what you wish A PC is not you are comparing Spec a 8v in a station wagon Is not as fast as 4 cylinder in a sports carPS4 APU “by far the most powerful” AMD has produced
AMD global business manager John Taylor has said the accelerated processing unit in the PlayStation 4 is the best the company has ever produced.

“We have not built an APU quite like that for anyone else in the market,” Taylor told the Inquirer.

“It is by far the most powerful APU we have built to date.”

Taylor said the APU leverages new tech which will appear in AMD’s new generation A-series later this year, which will be sold directly to consumers.

“None that will quite be to that level of sheer number of cores, sheer number of teraflops,” he added.

The PlayStation 4 has an x86 APU, and that AMD will be selling similar tech directly to PC users shows just how PC-like the console’s architecture is – but it’s worth remembering that the custom tech has been specially designed through a collaboration between the two companies, so you can’t just rebuild a PS4 in your basement
Software_Lover  +   591d ago
To Evil Snuggles..............

WTF are you talking about? This post said nothing about a cpu or APU or anything. Do you even know what an APU is?

Noboby is knocking the ps4. IM GONNA GET ONE. But unless you know about the tech please dont blab off about a volkswagon and a sports car.
husomc  +   591d ago
what PC fanboys fail to understand is that they have to play what ever Devs make for them - which will be unoptimized resource hogging ports of console games.
gamernova  +   592d ago
I cannot wait for the PS4 release so then PC gamers will do comparison articles and then console gamers begin making excuses haha at least the ones that know very little about tech. Will the ps4 even support triple monitor displays? :P Oh see, but that is the current PC gaming world but console gamers just don't know at it's sad. They have such hope haha and the ps4 is a good console that tries to be a pc but it is just a console. If you want something with amazing specs build you own PC.
DonJogHurt  +   592d ago
Gaming Bolt is begging for hits.
kwyjibo  +   592d ago
Most PCs are dual core, so years old. The most popular graphics card is the integrated Intel HD 3000.

http://store.steampowered.c...

PS4 will out-power most PCs for years to come, it'll definitely beat my laptop. It won't outpower the best though, we all know that.
Cueil  +   592d ago
it probably wont outperform a similarly costing computer if you know how to use pricewatch
Myst-Vearn  +   592d ago
man I want the PS4 now
Mithan  +   592d ago
Bullshit. The PS4 is already out dated. It doesn't touch a high end GTX680 coupled to an Intel Ivy Bridge CPU.

Of course, it doesn't need to either to produce amazing graphics and provide a great system base that will last for years to come.

The PS4 will be a kick ass system in all liklyhood, but more powerful than a PC? Nope.

Does it matter? Nope.
SKUD  +   592d ago
Lair 2 will save the PS4.
Gamerbeyond  +   592d ago
with pc, you might eventually be able to play simcity lol.
CGI-Quality  +   592d ago
Herein lies just hwy PC gamers find the need to put down console-only people. The immaturity is rife here.
Rivitur  +   591d ago
You're logic fails as PC gamers are already able to play Simcity of course SIMCITY 5 is quite inoperable.
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RE_L_MAYER  +   592d ago
Cloud service yaay)))
BLow  +   592d ago
Let me see. I'm I going to believe an actual developer or some random "I know everything about computer god programing master because I have a PC with these parts I bought that are far better so I'm an expert by default that can compare specs even though these are closed systems on non finalized dev kits that I have never seen or worked on know it all". Hmmm....I'm going to go with the latter...haha. All you guys crack me up. Why don't we wait and see what happens when the systems can actually be bought at a store. Can't we just enjoy games on whatever you play on? Impossible on this site.
SlavisH2  +   592d ago
since most computers are not used for gaming purposes then yes the ps4 will, but it will not out perform gaming pcs and sony fanboys will run with this article and look dumber.
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