The Top 3 PS4 Complaints and Why They Make No Sense


Sometimes people complain about the silliest things. It's time to discuss common sense and whether these complaints are legitimate or not.

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alousow1957d ago

there is nothing to coplain about this ps4

zerocrossing1957d ago (Edited 1957d ago )

We don't all share that opinion.

No native BC is reason enough to complain for me regarding the PS4, I genuinely see this as an indirect attack on the used games market.

What better way to put an end to used game sales than by making them redundant? Many people say to just keep their PS3's, well consoles don't last forever and when given the option of replacing/fixing a PS3 or purchasing a PS4 most people will no doubt choose the new model.


Im open to discussion on that.

If you have any opinions on how BC could be a negative if it was implemented into the PS4's architecture , then by all means shoot.

rezzah1957d ago

We already know of the pro for BC, but what of the cons? How can BC affect the PS4 in a negative way?

kneon1957d ago


The one big con is cost, it would easily raise the price by as much as $100. They are using entirely different CPU/GPU so the only reasonable way to have BC is by adding in a cell chip. The GPU can probably be handled via a software abstraction layer but the CPU can't. By the time the PS5 rolls around though it would be powerful enough to fully emulate a PS3 in software.

InTheZoneAC1957d ago

do you have a ps3?

ok problem 1 and 2 solved...

apparently you're out of problems, so there is nothing for you to complain about...

zerocrossing1957d ago (Edited 1957d ago )


My PS3 is dead actually, but attempting to invalidate my legitimate concerns by painting them as petty complaints was a nice novelty we don't often see here on N4G... /s


Im 26 so yeah... Far from a kid.

Anyway, I can't honestly be arssed to read your whole barely cohesive and frankly insultive rant, but for someone preaching the complexities of console architecture you sure are overlooking the possibility and ease of implementing a method of emulation, much like the 360 allows with some choice Xbox games.

Geez, we're talking about how a next gen console could be better here, I haven't personally wronged you, ya know?.

Mounce1957d ago

You think that BC and making 'used games redundant' just happens via Space Magic? Do you know some of the complexities involving with coding new hardware with obsolete or older hardware?.... An idea can be sound but if you have no idea how to do it efficiently, there's no reason to speak on that subject.

And to further bring up Backwards Compatibility, while an enjoyable feature for Convenience alone. It wasn't EVER A NORM!

PS1/PS2 started it, literally.

Cause I truly loved playing my NES games on my NES and SNES games on my NES, SNES and N64 games on my Gamecube or Wii...

Oh wait...No, you COULDN'T, lol. Xbox started doing it after PS2 could do PS1's so in a nutshell....

Backwards compatibility rose to a power of 'Demand' over a single fucking generation of the PS2's lifetime. It was never around Before it. Which also makes me see how obnoxious some whiners can be. People just came to think on their own that because PS2 could run PS1 games, that PS3 'HAD' to run PS1 and PS2. Sony tried, was more problem than it was worth and scrapped it, everyone moaned. PS4 is going the same route...People moan.

I didn't hear ANY FUCKING BITCHING of BC on Nintendos consoles. Why the fuck NOW. Is my question. Just because people have tasted BC, they demand it a Norm?....

I understand the convenience of not having to swap consoles OBVIOUSLY, as a Gamer. However, there goes a time when you should ask, Why the fuck are you whining? For selfish reasons? Making demands to a company to make a feature come true and be a norm because you say so, and if they don't do so, they instantly become a shitty company?

I remember being content with having an N64 and wanting to reroute the plugs around to play my SNES or NES instead on the old CRT TV back in the old days. You new generation kids whine too much and are spoiled. I'd say.

ziggurcat1957d ago (Edited 1957d ago )

@ zerocrossing

gaikai will allow for your precious BC on PS4.

and your complaints are petty... also 26 is still a kid in gaming years.

torchic1957d ago (Edited 1957d ago )

why oh why do people care so much about BC?

why is it so hard to keep your PS3? why is it so difficult to move on?

as said above, the complaints are a bit petty.

SugarSoSweet1957d ago

I agree PC's can achieve emulation easily just as the you can get them from websites

PS4 shud have at least ps1, ps2 emulation

kreate1957d ago

Its ok to complain about BC.
But when ps3 offered it, ppl made fun of it. Refuse to buy it, than put sausages in the ps3 and turned it into a grill.

Xbox360 doesnt offer BC. It does have very limited BC though. Although it freezes and lags on half the games that is offered as BC.
Nobody complained. Gamestop doesnt even accept xbox games as trade ins due to 360's failure of BC.

If u wanted to show how important BC was or is. More ppl should of bought the ps3 when they offered it, and should not buy any 360s and complained about the lack of 360's BC.

Since gamers failed to do those 2 things, making a BC complaint now about a future console is redundant.

DeanSanchez1957d ago

Well, lets keep it simple, how badly do you want backwards compatibility?
Adding BC to the PS4 would mean for Sony to include the PS3's cell chip into the PS4, effectively raising the price. So how bad do you want BC?

Bad enough that you wouldnt mind the price hike for the PS4? If you dont mind the potential $100+ on backwards compatibility, then I'm sure you wouldn't mind paying for the games again on the cloud.

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fermcr1957d ago

For now i have a few complaints:

- No backwards compatibility for PS3 games.

- No backwards compatibility for PSN games. I bought those games, and now i can't play them on future consoles. This just tells me to avoid at all cost purchasing PSN content because it will not be compatible for future consoles down the road (PS4, PS5, PS6...)

- No support for PS3 dualshock controller. I have 2 controllers, what the hell am i going to do with them.

Welshy1957d ago (Edited 1957d ago )

PS2 BC was built into launch PS3, so everyone complained it was too expensive and it was removed.

In complete honesty, how often do you play your old PS2 games on your PS3? Maybe every few months dig out MGS3 or maybe an old Burnout or GTA?

In relative terms it's a huge gain for the consoles future, by sticking with the CELL for the sake of allowing you to play old games, devs would still complain about awkward programming and we'd still be dealing with terrible ports from certain publishers.

We've heard this argument about BC at the start the PS3's generation, this is no different, in 3-4 years time when we have nearly as many PS4 games as we do old PS3 title, no one will care.

The same goes for your Dualshock 3's. Have ever as much as ONCE felt the urge to use a dualshock 2 on your PS3? Or did you keep playing with your original Dualshock on the PS2? I know i haven't and i've been on my PS3 since launch day.

HeavenlySnipes1957d ago

1. PSN games could be streamed to your console via Gaikai using your PSN account

2. No new console (only like the WiiU) supports the previous consoles controller. Were you mad that you ccouldn't use your old Xbox and PS2 controller for your 360 and PS3?

3. Maybe a system could be set in place where you put your pS3 game in the system then it could be detected and streamed onto your system via Gaikai

They did say they would be using the service to stream PS1-3 games on PSN.

pangitkqb1957d ago


Then don't buy a PS4. Rather than complain and fill the interwebs with negativity, just don't buy one. Period.

Outside_ofthe_Box1957d ago

The reason why you can't use the DS3 with the PS4 is because the DS4 has new stuff added to it. What if a PS4 game required the touch pad for instance and you were using a DS3?

ginsunuva1957d ago

Why are PSN games in a different category from Ps3 games?
They're just cheaper Ps3 games. They're not somehow different in their coding architecture.

PSN games == PS3 games.
No difference.

If ps3 games can't be run, then no sh1t psn games can't, either. People were in some shock thinking that PSN games are magically different because of their price.

The Blu-Ray disc isn't the problem, duh, the ps3 coding is. Doesn't matter if the ps3 game is on a disc or downloaded, it's still a ps3 game!

Gamers need to learn what games even are and how they're made.

cjflora1957d ago

I'm dissapointed about PS3 games and even more disappointed about PSN games, but in the end I don't want a higher overall cost to make them work. If they can make them available via Gaikai that will be good enough for me.

As for the PS3 dualshock, they've always had new controllers with the system. If you have 2 controllers use them on your PS3. If you get rid of your PS3, get rid of the controllers with it.

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Derekvinyard131957d ago

Make this list after the system is released! It would make more sense

showtimefolks1957d ago

we still don't know 100% info on ps4 so let's wait and see, everything sony has shown has done nothing but proven that ps4 is gonna be a power house system and as usual will get a lot of support from sony's 1st-2nd party studios

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Godmars2901957d ago

Come to think of it, Xbox1 only received praise for its similarity to a PC. That you could get updates.

And now years later the development community has taken to releasing unfinished games and patching - trying to - after the fact.

Software_Lover1957d ago

The only complaint that I currently have is the ps3 fanboys and their blog "dramatic" anti pc headlines. They are purposely making headlines and stupid blog articles, submitting them to N4g to rile up pc guys who will not stand for their ignorance. Then when you set them straight, the SDF comes in and bubbles you down and disagrees galore. Its really sad.

Ares84HU1957d ago

You don't actually believe all that bs you just wrote right?

Software_Lover1957d ago

If you cant see it, then, wow!!

Reverent1957d ago

I think he believes it. What a shame.

fabod861957d ago

Maybe you switched the roles lol XD

juandren1957d ago

I just bubbled you down for the irony. Lol #yolo #swag #fornicatetheauthorities

zerocrossing1957d ago

I think you're reading too much into things.

Most console gamers are pretty clueless when it comes to PC gaming, there is no denying that, so if people are spreading misinformation it's probably not intentionaly.

If you see an article and absolutely must "set them straight" use some tact if you value your bubbles.

Software_Lover1957d ago

I dont "value" bubbles per se. They are just bubbles on a website. I dont have an alternate account because, lets be honest, does it really take all that? You cant put forth the facts without being mis-labled.

And most of us mainly PC guys like the ps4 and the ps3, I have a ps3 and will be getting a ps4 but not at launch. But when articles come and say the ps4 will destroy pc gaming for the next 5 years, or pc gamers are jealous of ps4, or ps4 has a supercharged cpu, we have to set the record straight.

I would expect the same thing from a ps3 guy if a 360 guy comes in and says Uncharted looks like crap. What?

Oschino19071957d ago (Edited 1957d ago )

PC fanboys can be equally as clueless. They only have one point of view and it's their own.

Their biggest downfall is a lack of understanding where others come from and why their preferences may be different.

They often just scoff at it or talk down to people as if self proclaiming themselves geniuses and above other gamers.

That is why overall all gamers (decent PC guys included) look to PC fanboys as the worst of the worst.

The way they act and talk themselves up you would think they could control themselves and be civil or just ignore the "nonsense" overall.

Instead they force themselves into articles and comments solely to "correct" people and put them back in their "place" as if it's somehow their duty as the "PC master race". I used quotes because all these terms are used very loosely and often with no context attached, just "facts" if you will.

For a group of people who are supposed to be high and mighty, above all other gamers and genius tech experts, they sure come off as petty, arogant (in a bad way) and narrow minded.

They talk down and attempt to correct industry vets who actually design and make these consoles and games or even now compact user friendly PCs.

Sorry maybe I am wrong and every PC fanboy is a CEO, CFO, Lead Programmer, Lead Game Designer, Head of R&D for every major tech company, PHD, head of Marketing, and own the highest end PC equipment ever designed as of today.

I guess you could say PC fanboys are often living in their own fantasy world where everything revolves around them and pleasing them. The second it doesn't or attention is placed on something else they feel a need spout off a bunch of negative or "but look at the facts (opinions)" nonsense.

PC fanboys just need to lighten up a bit, accept other gamers and maybe once and a while just put down the keyboard and keep their thoughts to themselves when the topic isn't even geared towards them.

Why they even show up to half the articles I don't understand. Its like they enjoy being pessimistic and attempting to knock others down a peg for their own enjoyment/well being/peace of mind.

BitbyDeath1957d ago (Edited 1957d ago )

As I mentioned in another thread PC is more powerful but devs are not coding for it. If this were the case then you would see games and techniques which'd be completely unique/unplayable/unseen on consoles and the genres would be further advanced but instead you are playing the exact same game with a different wrapping.

Console gamers can still play games like Crysis 3 and other than lower graphics/resolution and framerates their is no difference.

Power is not graphics.

Again, PC's have more power but games are not and have not been made to take advantage of this. PC games will likely be forced to continue to evolve with the push of new consoles.

d3nworth11956d ago

What really sad is that you honestly believe that its ps3 fanboy. Half the time you people dont even bother to read the article. When they say ps4 will out perform most PC for year to come obviously they don't mean gaming rig. Think about how many people own PCs what percentage of the people who own PC are gamers. I pretty much guarantee its less than half. Your average family will most likely spend $400 to $600 on a PC and keep for years never even bothering to upgrade it. So the ps4 will out perform most PC cuz most people buy cheap low spec PC. There are PCs still being made to this day that only come with 2 gigs of ram. You PC fanboy need to stop being so sensitive and actually think about what you're reading.

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DonJogHurt1957d ago

Not having any native BC with PS3, PS2 and PS One games is a valid complaint for customers to make. Especially to those who invested large amounts of time and money in their digital purchases.

Kane221957d ago

so you want Sony to add this in ps4 and then have a very high price tag at launch. and of course hear people bitch to holy hell that the ps4 is too much just like they did with the ps3.

KrisButtar1957d ago

sony could sell 2 models, 1 with and 1 without? make everyone happy?

nevin11957d ago

1. No BC support
2.No DS3 support but PSMove works?
3. Too much social media stuff
4. Touch pad will be as usless as the sixaxis
5. DS4 looks cheap

fabod861957d ago

The last 3 ponts are just your opinion...

juandren1957d ago

What looks cheap about the DualShock 4? The LED lighbar? The rubber grips? Polished shoulder buttons? You are grasping at straws son

stage881957d ago

Although I agree with you, I don't think the DS4 has rubber grips. Look at the pics again.

LOGICWINS1957d ago

I don't understand. What detriment would the social media stuff have on your experience with a PS4? Its OPTIONAL. You don't HAVE to use it.

GravelerMagnitude91957d ago

if you are complaining about backwards compatibility , move own. The games are old now. You're telling me after seven long years of ps3 , that you are angry that you can play old ps3 or ps2 and ps1 games on ps4. Games are moving up. Ps4 needs to be a fresh experience, not the main console to play ps1 games on. Were you mad that Dreamcast didn't play sega genesis games too, if so keep your old system and please stop with the complaining. No one is forcing you to buy ps4 but if you decide to , then welcome to the next generation. If you have downloaded and bought a lot for ps3 no one is required to meet your demands to move it to ps4. Stop acting like babies

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