"God of War: Ascension has a trophy called ‘Bros before hos’ and it has understandably caused an outrage among people because it was in bad taste."
butthurt much? it always was 18+ gore and brutal and now it causes controversy? LOL go play barbies
From what I've heard by people who've played, it's especially brutal given the rest of the game and it doesn't really add anything to the story. I mean the rest of the game is really brutal so yeah, But bros before hos? that's a little gross.
You're bad at trolling and defining how text in an image on the top right of the screen can be visually-Gross.
Yes, because someone who thinks a trophy is part of the story in the first place is totally not an idiot /s
You do realize the trophy is in relation to the son saving Kratos instead of his mother right?
They weren't also women were they by any chance? EDIT, sorry to presume but you are female aren't you?
Really so when a girl is playing Gears of War and they chainsaw some "bro" online in half it's all fine and dandy I hate how females want to be equal then complain about things like this.
Where was this kind of outrage when Lollipop Chainsaw gave you a trophy for moving the camera to look under a 17 year olds skirt? Chuk you seem too sensitive for rated M games. Jumping to conclusions with no understanding of the situation when the trophy pops. Not a fan of slapstick comedy eh? Calling it gross? A little immature dont you think? If this offends you, then DO NOT watch any Kevin Smith movie. You will probably cry.
Doesn't take much these days for controversy... I guess we're still all playground school kids... please.
If Kratos just beat her up, that would be a little line walking, but it wouldnt be that big of a deal initself because this is god of war. But the Bros before hos trophy pop is gross and unnecessary.
So what is controversial in this? I see nothing at all. All I see is trophy pop up for you siding with the guy instead of the girl in the video. Is it really controversy when a ho gets offended from a PSN trophy?
Chuk5, Allow the medium to mature. How many books and films have scenes in them that are sexist, brutal, racist, violent, sick disgusting, and outright pornographic. etc etc. You don't see people constantly berating the medium, and climbing atop their soap box to give social commentary on the morality of films or books. Somehow we trust adults to be able to watch films and read books, and to distinguish between fact and fiction, reality and fantasy. But apparently, somehow video game journalists missed that class.
All forms of entertainment get similar treatment, actually. Don't know what world you're living in. And it's funny that you think indulging childish jokes is helping the medium to "mature." The controversy was not in the scene itself, but in the off-color achievement that read as if it was created by some sexually frustrated fratboy. Granted, I think this is getting MUCH more attention than it should be, but I also don't think the developers deserve to be actively defended.
Well said Mike. And I agree. I feel like were on a cusp of awareness in games and yeah i guess their will continue to be questionable content. I think it's problematic if gaming doesn't learn from prior mistakes.
We need a video now? Dammit this should have a a spoiler tag on it
I think they are more pissed because of the name "Ho". It's a bit offensive calling women prostitutes, don't you think? On top of that the trophy says "Bros before hos" in other words "Men before women".
Well actually bro refers a very close male friend. Ho refers to a floozy. So that saying doesn't translate to "men before women". What it in fact means is.... you know what? If you seriously don't get it then I don't think that I could explain it to you. I can't comment on the story of Ascension, but that crap is seriously common knowledge. Wow hahaha.
Its not controversial because the violence. Its controversial because the "Bros Before Hoes" trophy is sexist and trashy.
wait...thats it? didnt Sessler say it was one of the most gruesome deaths in god of war history?
That's what I heard, and that's why i think it's a bit gross. I mean you can chainsaw anya in gears, and that's not a big deal because everyone gets chainsawed and there's nothing glorfied about it. But this GOWA kill is different imo.
I'm guessing you've never played a God of War game before if you think that this particular scene is somehow different from about two dozen other, similar scenes scattered throughout the franchise. Hell, the scene with Poseidon in God of War III was more brutal than that, and that was like 15 minutes into the game.
You probably shouldn't be going on about how gross the issue is if you are basing your information on internet hearsay. Hell, there are kills on cannon fodder enemies equally as gruesome as this one, if not more so. If your main issue with the trophy is that it is preceded by an especially violent kill, you can rest assured, this is the GoW norm.
Fair is fair, I will concede to you guys on that. If that's the norm then that still isn't the problem and I don't go around wielding some PC stick. I said that in my earlier comment. My problem is the bros before hos trophy. Why?
A more important question is why not? It's a simple pop culture reference in a portion of the game that exists outside of the game's world. Is it in bad taste? Sure. Though, I'm sure I could find a handful of trophies I've earned over the years that are equally in bad taste. Honestly, the issue isn't worth the attention it's being given, one way or the other. The worst part is that many of the people who are making such a big deal out of this are doing so in ways that give feminism a bad name, much like PETA often does with animal rights. Of course, this is just the state of games media these days, so in a week or so we'll have something new to fuss over.
If you're too delicate for 18 cert games then don't play them! Oh sorry that's right you HAVEN'T ACTUALLY played the game have you? Or any other GOW by the sound of it!!!!
That's not bad, people are just whining.
"God of War: Ascension has a trophy called ‘Bros before hos’ and it has understandably caused an outrage among people because it was in bad taste... Yeah, outrage amongs maybe a handfull people who are journalists? Who started this? That's it? Meh, all that sh*tstorm for this? GOW3 was far more gory. *Remembering the good days when Kratos ripped the head off Helios, or the scene with Poseidon* Those where violent and gory scenes...
Exactly! The helios scene was way worse than what was shown in the video.
The Helios head rip absolutey trumps this crap in terms of violence.
****SPOILER****: There's a scene where Kratos is in a brothel and one of the prostitutes tries to seduce him but it's actually a fury so he kills her, a.k.a bros before hoes, because she was pretending to be a hoe, get it? All the pious prats making a big deal out of this and knocking off points in the reviews should suffer the same death as the fury did in the video above. (Not sure if that's exactly how it happens because I haven't played the game for myself yet but I was told that's what happens by someone who's played it).
Ok thanks, that's understandable. Guys don't give a f*** about my first comment up top.
Noone said anything about the topless girl Kratos threw in the gear crushing her to death in GOW III, be consistent white knights, you failed that "ho". Also that whole saying is meant as a guys guy joke that you bro fist too. It's sad that Sessler made it into a big deal, on top of that, that type of brutality has been very consistent to the God Of War series, so the whining holds no merit at all and is just attention seeking. Its like this was Kratos first game, LOL. What about the random male civillan saying to Kratos "save me" Kratos kills for no reason, well he has a dick who cares : / I can't complain about that, no silly trophy name, shucks.
i just find it funny how certain people are bitching over a damn trophy name lol.
Oh my God. The vast majority of people playing this game will be men and the females who play this game are probably normal friggin females with a sense of humour who have probably used the term chicks before dix with their friends. If you think this is in anyway degrading to women by having a fictional blood-lusted warrior fight a gigantic monster who happens to look like a female in a game that is all about combat and blood that stop playing FICTIONAL video games and go join the WBC
This is getting a little silly now, people are starting to act like this was some orchestrated attack upon women. Having said that I do think it's incredibly douchey and it does irritate me. Mostly because it invokes the image of the snot nosed little middle American bratty teenager playing Call of duty and spouting black gangsta catchphrases in their high whiny voice to try and sound tough. Just please keep all of your Internet meme talk and Jersey shore catchphrases out of my games.
I guess noone seen the episode of boondock
Let me see so if someone said Bros before Hos in a movie(which has been dome many many times) would it be getting this much attention? But the rest of the games is fine. The game is M rated. Everything these days has to get blown out of proportion and everyone are so sensitive. It God of Freakin War people!!!! Some of you can piss and moan all you want and I'll have a little chuckle when that trophy pops up.
That wasn't that bad at all. She even LAUGHS during the stomp thing, mocking your efforts to "kill" her. She isn't even dead in the end. That's child's play in God of War. I was expecting something so much worse by all the uproar. It actually irked me a little bit to hear, but now I don't care. Bring on GoW:A!
I told people the trophy actually made sense.
Death before dishonor.
Sessler might feel mortified by the trophy use of “Bros before Hos” for killing a female creature, but in reality if the cards were flipped and you were rewarded with a “chicks before dicks” trophy for killing a male as a woman, no one would really care. Just as within the newest Tomb Raider you are awarded the trophy of “Widowmaker” for killing 40 male enemies, or in Tekken where the character Nina has a move to simply kick the opponent in the balls. This is not to say that everyone should be free from their own moral compass if they want to be, but simply keep equality what it needs to be, and view the world through multiple angles – both men and women are targets of senseless acts, meaning none of us are special. A perfect analysis by playstation life so people can now finally shut up about this "outrage."
Orkos chooses Kratos instead of his mothers hence bros before hoes trophy. Plus women doesn't even die and the so called being brutal, that wasn't brutal at all. Face stomps her and than grabs her than shoves into the spike thats brutal? What Kratos did to Hercules now that was brutal. Adam was really off in this part of his review.
I wonder what people will cry about next week in the gaming world, I have seen things far worse than this. I've never been a fan of sessler, but now I really dislike him.
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