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Pachter: PS4 and Next Xbox Will Sell Almost Twice as Much as Wii U

GXC: "The South by Southwest (SXSW) Conferences are happening right now offering a bit of music, festivities, and gaming. Gaming analyst Michael Pachter has been presenting at a panel, speaking about the next-generation of gaming systems, including the Wii U, PS4, and Next Xbox (codenamed Durango)." (Michael Pachter, Next-Gen, PS4, Wii U, Xbox One)

Pope_Kaz_Hirai_II  +   690d ago
I Cant really disagree with Patcher here.. tho i think its an obvious conclusion i would be amazed if this statment didnt come true.
classic200  +   690d ago
This generation the last, I dont see that anytime soon, smart tv cannot replace consoles because they are still just modern HTPC which will be too expensive like real PC gaming. A cheap console will always be needed and even gabe newel see that is a fact.

But the sales seems ok in his prediction, if nintendo cant get the non nintendo core gamers or casuals back then they surely will sell something in that region.

Nintendo core gamers are not going get that console above 30mil easily without non traditional nintendo gamers on board or casuals.
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clearelite  +   690d ago
This is ol' Patchy, so WiiU "comeback" confirmed.

Yeah, then there are millions of people (like me) who do not like "smart" TV. For security reasons, the desire for customizable dedicated devices, etc, etc. I'll keep my dedicated consoles/PCs.

Nintendo could lower the price, release some power games, UP the marketing/hype, and it would fly off shelves.

Though I can see PS4 selling double if everyone buys two like me :]
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Shnazzyone  +   690d ago
I'm just gonna put this article right here.


Oh and this article

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MegaLagann  +   690d ago
Reminds me a few months ago I came across IGN's 3DS is doomed and Vita is set to succeed articles. Oh hindsight.
clearelite  +   690d ago
Well, now we know Pachy is the reason for Vita's slow start. Him and his predictions....

Not sure exactly WTF he is, but perhaps he talks to clueless newbie investors.

He probably serves a function, or he wouldn't be around any more. The question is what function, because he isn't into accurate prediction/prognostication.

I always get a kick out of these articles though.
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lilbroRx  +   690d ago
Well, you can't argue with that.

You know something is wrong with your logic when you start believing and agreeing with Patcher. Then again, he would even be in business if not for anti-Nintendo fanboys who love to here his predictions of doom for Nintendo.
lilbroRx  +   690d ago
You are agreeing with the man that predicted that the Wii U would was priced right and would meet sales expectations.

You are agreeing with the man who says the PS4 will be $400?

You are agreeing with the man who said the PS4 will render games at 240FPS?

Just go to show that people around here hope for the worst from Nintendo and will believe anything negative about them.
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bullymangLer  +   690d ago
start making games for the ps4
AngelicIceDiamond  +   690d ago
I live near Austin I wish I was there for the Q&A ask him some tough questions.

I can realistically see that happening. Sorry but the Wii U isn't next gen, its Nintendo's next gen. Just like Wii was Nintendo's "next gen." The Wii U isn't brand new living room technology its current living room tech just like the PS360.

The tablet is innovative in its own right and next gen gaming pad. But a system that has graphics card that's merely an update over PS and Xbox's isn't really next gen.

Consumers don't want to buy a console for a slightly better Wii U port and exclusive tablet features that may or may not break the game.

PS4 and 720 will be brand new living room technology That gamers want.
Theyellowflash30  +   690d ago
Just like the 3DS, Nintendo needs time to get their exclusives out.
DivineAssault  +   690d ago
i agree with him here.. Wii U needs to find itself because when current gen games stop being produced, itl be left to dry.. Its already drying out because it doesnt get 1/4 the publisher support as PS3/360.. Its 1st party will be what holds it afloat
PopRocks359  +   690d ago
Great. More crystal balls. Can we not just wait and see before we end up with socks in our mouths?

Look, I'm not even trying to say the Wii U will sell even remotely closely to the Nextbox and PS4. I'm saying let's just see what this market does and how things play out. Everyone expected the Vita to be a hot seller at launch and it was anything but. The same thing happened to the PS3 and even the 3DS (though only initially for both). The market is not the way it used to be; let's just see how this plays out instead of making predictions that can very easily turn out to be incorrect.

EDIT: And it's Pachter for goodness' sake. When was the last time he was right about anything?
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LOL_WUT  +   690d ago
Well, he's been right about the Wii U so far so who's to say he can't be right about this. ;)

Anyhow, why are trying to write this off? If to you he's always wrong then, why do you even care what he has to say?
PopRocks359  +   690d ago
I don't know, why are you condescendingly cynical in nearly every Wii U related article, negative or positive? You're only using this quote to stroke your own ego, not because it holds any merit. At least I have the sense to say my piece and be done with it AND not pretend like my opinions or facts or to make predictions and act like they are set in stone.

I'm saying something I would say in regard to ANY system. Wait and see. That's a very simple concept because making assumptions does nothing but lead to trouble. I never once said the Wii U would be a smash hit and I never once said anything about the Vita being a failure (in fact I'm completely convinced that the opposite will happen in the long run).

Pachter's predictions are more often than not completely the opposite of what actually happens. Maybe he's right about this, maybe he isn't. MY point is that acting like he's right before it happens is stupid because he's no soothsayer. He is a man with the same mental capacity as any other person. So no, to me his predictions hold no water.
lilbroRx  +   690d ago
He was right about it meeting sales expectation and selling out through its launch?
Jadedz  +   690d ago
Pachter's predictions are as sporadic as the Harlem shake.
RTheRebel  +   690d ago
If games reach 70$ no way in hell will Next-Gen consoles sell alot. Plus we still need to see the PS4 price tag, and Next Xbox price tag aswell. Plus if they support Used games.
jlafount  +   690d ago
I predict the Wii U will be sold in stores
neogeo  +   690d ago
+bub you for that epic prediction.
khowat  +   690d ago
Oh well even if that does happen, I'm a gamer not a market analyst, I don't really give a fuck about how well system does as long as I know there will be another one
stragomccloud  +   690d ago
Man this guy hates Nintendo more than people here on N4G!
MegaLagann  +   690d ago
But not as much as NeoGaf.
MegaLagann  +   690d ago
Considering this is Pachter making this statement, I guess that means the Wii U will sell twice as much as the PS4/720.
TheRandomDrifter  +   690d ago
I like to think this man is the Harold Camping of video games. He makes a prediction and it comes out the exact opposite, instead of predicting the end of the world he predicts how game consoles will do.

I just think it's just a way for him to get more clicks and money.
arbitor365  +   690d ago
i think that is an underestimation. I would wager that the PS4 will sell 3 times as many as the wii u. im guessing

ps4 - 90+ million
xbox720 - 60+ million
wii u - 20-30 million
lilbroRx  +   690d ago
Ah, just like the PS3 did
arbitor365  +   690d ago
actually like the PS1 and PS2 did. they sold 3 times as much and 7 times as much(respectively) as the nintendo consoles they were competing with.

you see, this time there is no shaky launch for playstation and a casual craze for nintendo. things are back to how they should be, and nintendo is going to get spanked.
Theyellowflash30  +   690d ago
Back when Sony owned Japan with exclusives like Monster Hunter, Devil May Cry, Tomb Raider, GTA 3 (timed), Dragon Quest, Dark Cloud, Final Fantasy, and a crap load of other games.

Sorry buddy, those 3rd party exclusive days are over.
deafdani  +   690d ago
"This time there is no shaky launch for Playstation"

Can I borrow your time machine? I would love to watch the PS4 launch.
kamikazepikmin  +   690d ago
After reading that moronic drone comment, i think i have contracted cancer
Zhipp  +   690d ago
I would add 15+mil to the Wii U number and subtract 30mil from the PS4 number, but that's just me. I don't expect next gen to be as big as this gen was. I also think the Wii U still has a chance of being very successful, but these are my current predictions.

I'll probably end up forced to change them, come november, heh.
falcon79  +   690d ago
Wishful thinking Mariokart sells around 20 million in the west and then you have pokomon,and zelda windwaker,smashbros ect these between them sell at least 40 million when these games hit along with Watchdogs and Rainbow6,X,Beyonetta2 ect it,wiiu will sell record breaking amounts of consoles,NINTENDO havn't even started marketing it yet ?

WiiU just with these games above could drive the install base to easy 50 million ?

Please the wiiu is destined for huge sales very by year end it will have killer apps everywhere,

Zelda windwaker
Project CARS
Mariokart ??
New NFS criterion has promised

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animegamingnerd  +   690d ago
i am honestly expecting at the most for one console to sale at the most 60 million units
Drainage  +   690d ago
hopefully it at least sells 20k
khowat  +   690d ago
wait 20,000 units or 20million units
7uff1  +   690d ago
Oh look! Bullshit!
Zhipp  +   690d ago
Looks like there is hope for the Wii U yet!
Jihaad_cpt  +   690d ago
Patcher has cursed both consoles :(
Jadedz  +   690d ago
There's a lot more...
Competition this time, though. I'm definitely getting the Steam Box, because the Left4Dead, Portal, Half Life, and Team Fortress series. There's Ouya, Gamestick, etc..

People just shoulding assuming that traditional consoles will control the gaming market, when publishers have a lot more options where to place their titles land.
bigjclassic  +   690d ago
Cant wait till this time next year
when PS4/XB3 sales hit the same exact slump.

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