Ps3 on track to be the most sold console this gen. Vita is selling well with price drop xbox360 and 3ds doing its usual strong numbers but wiiu struggling big time.
It's only get get worst for wiiu when ps4 and next Xbox hits the market and no matter what Nintendo does E3 is gonna be owned by Xbox and playstation news.
They can't even drop the price since they are already loosing money on it. Nintendo is so out of touch with today's gaming community it's not even funny. Wiiu is just not a clear selling point most consumers don't understand if this is just another wii or a brand new system. Why not call wiiHD or wii2.
And 3rd party publishers are not interested in wiiu and that's very bad news. It was more than 25 years ago when Nintendo actually got great 3rd party support
"It's only get get worst for wiiu when ps4 and next Xbox hits the market and no matter what Nintendo does E3 is gonna be owned by Xbox and playstation news"
I think you should have known by now, to never underestimate Nintendo.
You can't write off the WiiU just yet.... Don't think it'll be as big as the Wii but wait till the wii gamers migrate over Xmas and an obvious price drop once ps4 and xbox720 hit the market...
Really great numbers for the VITA This year looks promising for Sonys handheld some great games coming out and with the connection possibilities with ps4 it's install base can only get bigger which should spark a fire under some 3rd party publishers arses and start making more games!!..
I got my big old PHAT 60gig ps3 day 1 and I had every faith that Sony would once again come out on top!... The numbers don't lie and I'd say its still got another good 5 years support for the late adopters, Sony only just stopped making the PS2..
Can't wait for PS4 day 1 for me as I have no doubt Sony will once again smash it next gen
Ok so wait a minute? Despite these numbers dead wrong I still don't understand the how Sony is in "first place" that everyone claims.
November 2012 Sony announce they have sold 70 million PS3's. Before that MS announced in September 2012 they sold 70m Xbox's.
Which made them both neck and neck.
If I remember correctly black Friday weekend MS sold 750k Xbox's and Sony did over 500k. And MS sold over a million Xbox's in December.
Sony hadn't released December sales. But how does that equal 77 million sold from November to now? When MS did nearly 2 million sales in November and December combined. making the 360 the hottest sold console during the holiday?
February 2013 MS announced 76 million consoles sold total. Jack Tretton was unsure how many PS3 sold he was going by the GDC report which turned out to be just shipped numbers. Sony had nothing to do with those reported numbers
From September to now MS sold 6 mill. From November to now its no way Sony did 7 mill So lets throw that out of the equation. So realistically they're neck and neck with Xbox a little over mill or so sold leading the PS3.
^^Poor guy or girl cares so much for no reason. Looking up and remembering all of these sales numbers. What a hollow existence. I enjoy reading these comments. Makes me feel better about myself.
Nothing too surprising. Wii U doing less than half of the Vita is pretty worrying for Wii U, though; Vita may have cut its price, but those still aren't gangbuster numbers to have done half of.
3DS is more of a universal handheld.. Children, casuals, & some cores buy it so its naturally going to thrive.. Vita is more of a core gamers handheld so its numbers growing shows the core market is still there..
Thats good news because if the core handheld gaming market goes dry, thats less games we get to play that utilize that beautiful machine..
As arrogant as SONY is ("you will get 2 jobs to buy this $600 PS3"), they had a clear opportunity to announce "In Front Of Its Investors" at the PS4 Revealing: SONY is the #1 selling console world wide.
BUT IT DIDNT! Know why:
Because It Isn't the Number 1 Selling Console!
You do know it was the future of PlayStation and not where we are currently at, right?
Why would they announce how many PS3s they sold or shipped, if the whole meeting was about the PlayStation 4 and what the future holds for Sony and their consumer.
Did they talk about any business numbers at all? I honestly don't remember any, and I watched the entire presentation. They've talked about those numbers many times before, but they don't do it at every show.
"But here we are today, with an estimated 77 million PS3s sold worldwide, about 23 million units behind the market leader, the Wii - and enough potential in the console to carry on past Nintendo's high-flying system."
Wii is in the highest selling console this generation so far and the ps3 needs to sell 23 million consoles to match it (assuming no additional wii's are sold).
The ps3 definitely has momentum but a 23 million gap is huge. I find it unlikely that the ps3 will surpass the wii.
Personally I would like the ps3 to win this generation but I just don't see it happening.
It is possible for them to do it, but if it does happen it will probably be around 2018 or something ridiculous like that if it happens at all. Thanks for the article and the thumbs down.
Fact is, Sony supports their consoles for a long time
The ps3 still costs more then the Wii did at launch in 2006
Sales are gonna go up a fair bit when prices get cut below the 200 mark and as the article stated, ps2 went on to sell a further 55 million when it went below 200.
It isn't over till its over, the Wii is basically dead now but ps3 has enough potential momentum to overtake it
Frankly until recently I conceded the fact that Wii was gonna to hold the number 1 spot, and that was fine as the Wii has been such an explosive success. So the fact that the evidence shows ps3 is likely to eventually overtake it is quite remarkable, and a staggering achievement worthy of praise
Yea its sales have certainly increased. I wonder if it can keep up that momentum for the next couple of months. As for the Wii U well, not much has improved, a good price cut could put them back in the race. ;)
Xbox 360 still kicking after almost 8 years on the market and no price drop in 2 years. Well done Microsoft.
Edit: Dang, going from original Xbox lifetime sales of less than 30 millions to almost 80 millions for the X360, very impressive Microsoft...super well done.
Except for the constant drops percentage-wise. Lol your username just says it all. 360 is dead last, despite being the first console released out of them all and having almost 2 years of re-purchases from users
360 may end up selling less than PS3 and or Wii but MS has increased their market share this gen. To be honest I'm amazed they were able to achieve this given the whole RROD fiasco.
Regardless of what happens for the remainder of this gen I dare say both MS and Sony will be looking for ways to increase the attach rate of games as that's where the real money is. Its simply not good business to have 70 million consoles in circulation and only sell a million copies of most games. Sure there are some exceptions but overall I can see why both companies have introduced measures to profit from second hand game sales.
Finally someone who knows how many Xbox 360's I replaced within the first two years..
They knew what they were doing, I knew and I will never buy another console from Microsoft again because of that.
If I had the money I would have sued their asses for what they pulled. Most people wouldn't know cause they never looked, but I was the few who actually took mine apart and could give a rats ass about that damn rainbow protection sticker...
Seriously though I was shocked not more people talk about that or it wasn't even on the net, I guess it goes to show how little people care to know what is inside what they buy.
The Heat sinks they put in the first Xbox 360's were made to cause the chips to fail and overheat, in all my life I seriously never had seen such cheap heat sinks in anything and was shocked to see someone as big as Microsoft using practically Tin heat sinks.. You can't tell me they didn't know better?
People who have been in the computing world longer than I have been alive didn't notice that? Hmm yea right, more like it was planned to sell more 360's when in fact like you said many of those sales were due, to people already owning a faulty system and having to buy another.
Shit had a LAN one time, first fucking day one of my friends was all stoked, he was watching us LAN on the 360 so he went out and bought one. That shit broke, that night.. I wish I was joking.. I felt so bad for him of course all of ours ended up doing the same shit at some point.
I was smarter than the average bear though, I would buy a new Xbox 360, strip the faulty one, put the new Xbox's case on the broken hardware and then I would simply return it.. Bam new 360 for me for free.. and not having to send shit in or actually spend money on another.. I had people pay me to do that, good times off of Microsoft mistakes I actually made a good bit of money doing that for people.
Funny how after those two years those, they release those new model and you would not believe how different the heat sink was in those.. They were sooo much better it wasn't even funny to me.. They knew what they were doing all along those bastards.
Sorry for the rant but man I will never forget that.. I literally lost count of how many I had to switch out myself.. not including all the other people who asked me to do the same to theirs..
Your false numbers come from the IDC report that state not only were the consoles "shipped" consoles but they also admitted they were "estimates". Not only are those 3rd party numbers and are not Sony's own numbers but the ignorant sony fanboys on this site keep spreading those 3rd party estimated shipped numbers as sony's own stated sold at retail market share numbers.
People like you need to stop spreading BS. Sony will eventually overtake MS before the year is done so long as MS keeps selling the 360 $100 too much, but as of right now, the 360 is still leading the PS3.
I like gamers with logic, there are so few of them on N4G. I bubbled you up for a very thought out comment. Well done, N4G needs more posters like you.
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So on a world wide sales chart, I don't have the right to congratulate Microsoft on a successful 8 year run for their second console; but yet, the first poster did the same thing for Sony, and the Agrees keep coming his way, LOL. Tell me what is wrong with the logic here?
Wow lol, he isn't allowed to congratulate MS but everyone else is allowed to praise Sony and get millions of 'agrees'? Lmao go home kid, this site is farked.
The original Xbox was an excellent console, better than the PS2 in terms of hardware and reliability. They just didn't have the depth in games library that Sony had and it hurt. I loved Halo and KOTOR 1 and 2 but they didn't have enough...
I had both a Xbox and a PS2 by the way. My Xbox still works, I sold my PS2 after the third time the disc drive broke...
Xbox 360 flipped the other way. Microsoft's reliability dropped significantly. Let's not forget how the red ring tainted their current gen efforts.
The PS3 was far more reliable despite having some of their own launch system issues.
Both consoles secured a healthy depth of games. I think in terms of games, you didn't make a mistake in your choice of console in this gen.
That's because in 2010 they released 360s for $199. They don't have to lower the price. All that said and done, the PS3 cost $249.99 and its outselling the 360.
Ummmm......a couple weeks ago they had only a million difference between the two, and the 360 increased the gap how? PS3 has been outselling 360 by a good margin this year.
They will in due time one the reasons only in Japan right now is to test the market and see if the price cut will make a difference and after seeing this I think I will get them moving on cutting the price everywhere else
Amazingly the Xbox has not really had any exclusives since Halo and it's still doing incredible numbers... you gotta respect that. They will have to bring it with their next iteration...
I am impressed at the 3DS numbers seeing that 3D has kind of had it's run so it must be the games.. that is what it's about!
Sony has been the Dark horse all of this time.. truly mind blowing the people's spending dollar is huh? They have made some mistakes and had some set backs but if you were around in 06... well then you know.. the hardships LOL
What's even more impressive is that the Ps3 could be poised to outlive the ps2... that would be staggering because that would mean Sony will definitely have to take care of the Ps4 & the Ps3 like siblings. Which they've shown that they can.
I would say the price drop of the Vita had a resounding affect on Japanese gamers. It's almost as if they wanted it, but didn't want to pay that much for it.
I personally didn't think that it was a bad price point for launch. However, maybe a year or so in, I'd cut the price on it in all territories, launch new ads for it, and get them into the hands of more 3rd party devs AGAIN! Even find the mobile game devs (get that Temple Run franchise out on the Vita... with new functions!)...
Anyway as much as we have our favorite this and that and argue over which is best.. I'm just glad that we're still here gaming.. People who love this like we do and have thrown insane amounts of money at it to make games etc.. only to go bankrupt. Passion... risk
Stop the arguing take a second.. a deep breath and analyze this: what would we do without these games, PCs, consoles?? Keeps us going... peace
Wow very good numbers for the Vita. The only thing that Sony and 3rd party developers need to do is support the handheld and i believe it will do just fine.
Now i know it will never outsell the 3DS but it can still be successful in the market.
I knew your day would come.. Let all the non-vitalievers weep in their own ill fated predictions..
Keep in mind people those Vita sales weren't all just because of the price cut. You know software sells hardware also and Japan has a lot of good Vita games right now.
This upcoming gen is going to be a disaster for Microsoft.
Two factors will unfold.
Firstly, microsoft will expose their true install base, if their new console is durable. After 6 years, when 29 million have been sold, we will all know why this gen was successful for them. Selling 80 million consoles, and having a quarter of that number as live accounts is very revealing. To those who look anyway.
Secondly, they're going to focus on kinect supposedly, and this is the exact opposite of what their audience wants! This is microsoft yet again flipping the script on their customers and not caring.
I'm sure the Wii U will pick up after E3. There has been a pattern lately where the newest devices have sold poorly until a price drop came (3DS,VITA).. So all Nintendo needs to do is drop the price and bring out more bundles and I'm sure they'll start doing better.
This is what scares me about next-gen, consoles being too high priced and no one buying. The PS3 never used to beat out Xbox360 in sales until it went down to under 300 dollars in the 360 price range. Now Sony fans love to brag about PS3 beating Xbox360 week in and out when it was the other way around for years.
To me it seems 250 dollars is the breaking point for consoles, once you reach 300 dollars and people see it as too much money.
Wii U will sell well once it goes down to 249.99 and every other console is above 300 dollars.
well it still is, at almost 100million consoles sold. hasnt been dethroned yet, so i dont see y people keep thinking nintendo is going to be the next sega. r u guys just that ignorant or just blind?
PS3 is coming for the #1 spot, and it deserves it. :) . It will take almost the whole 10 year life cycle, but I think it will get there. . The classic Tortoise(PS3) vs. the Hare(Wii) story.
Except technically the race is already over because the wii u is already released and signifies that of the 8th generation of video game consoles has begun but you know whatever...
Do it Sony! It'll only benefit........
EVERYONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need to get my PS3 repaired for TLOU.
It's only get get worst for wiiu when ps4 and next Xbox hits the market and no matter what Nintendo does E3 is gonna be owned by Xbox and playstation news.
They can't even drop the price since they are already loosing money on it. Nintendo is so out of touch with today's gaming community it's not even funny. Wiiu is just not a clear selling point most consumers don't understand if this is just another wii or a brand new system. Why not call wiiHD or wii2.
And 3rd party publishers are not interested in wiiu and that's very bad news. It was more than 25 years ago when Nintendo actually got great 3rd party support
I think you should have known by now, to never underestimate Nintendo.
Really great numbers for the VITA This year looks promising for Sonys handheld some great games coming out and with the connection possibilities with ps4 it's install base can only get bigger which should spark a fire under some 3rd party publishers arses and start making more games!!..
I got my big old PHAT 60gig ps3 day 1 and I had every faith that Sony would once again come out on top!... The numbers don't lie and I'd say its still got another good 5 years support for the late adopters, Sony only just stopped making the PS2..
Can't wait for PS4 day 1 for me as I have no doubt Sony will once again smash it next gen
November 2012 Sony announce they have sold 70 million PS3's. Before that MS announced in September 2012 they sold 70m Xbox's.
Which made them both neck and neck.
If I remember correctly black Friday weekend MS sold 750k Xbox's and Sony did over 500k. And MS sold over a million Xbox's in December.
Sony hadn't released December sales. But how does that equal 77 million sold from November to now? When MS did nearly 2 million sales in November and December combined. making the 360 the hottest sold console during the holiday?
February 2013 MS announced 76 million consoles sold total. Jack Tretton was unsure how many PS3 sold he was going by the GDC report which turned out to be just shipped numbers. Sony had nothing to do with those reported numbers
From September to now MS sold 6 mill. From November to now its no way Sony did 7 mill So lets throw that out of the equation. So realistically they're neck and neck with Xbox a little over mill or so sold leading the PS3.
I'm just trying to make sense out of all this.
This is what hes refering to. Sony took the lead already.
You are coming off as a little man with a loud mouth and the need of attention, protected by the anonymity of a computer screen.
Just saying.
Total badass right here.
Good Job Nintendo
Thats good news because if the core handheld gaming market goes dry, thats less games we get to play that utilize that beautiful machine..
As arrogant as SONY is ("you will get 2 jobs to buy this $600 PS3"), they had a clear opportunity to announce "In Front Of Its Investors" at the PS4 Revealing: SONY is the #1 selling console world wide.
BUT IT DIDNT! Know why:
Because It Isn't the Number 1 Selling Console!
Why would they announce how many PS3s they sold or shipped, if the whole meeting was about the PlayStation 4 and what the future holds for Sony and their consumer.
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From the article you left a link for:
"But here we are today, with an estimated 77 million PS3s sold worldwide, about 23 million units behind the market leader, the Wii - and enough potential in the console to carry on past Nintendo's high-flying system."
Wii is in the highest selling console this generation so far and the ps3 needs to sell 23 million consoles to match it (assuming no additional wii's are sold).
The ps3 definitely has momentum but a 23 million gap is huge. I find it unlikely that the ps3 will surpass the wii.
Personally I would like the ps3 to win this generation but I just don't see it happening.
Fact is, Sony supports their consoles for a long time
The ps3 still costs more then the Wii did at launch in 2006
Sales are gonna go up a fair bit when prices get cut below the 200 mark and as the article stated, ps2 went on to sell a further 55 million when it went below 200.
It isn't over till its over, the Wii is basically dead now but ps3 has enough potential momentum to overtake it
Frankly until recently I conceded the fact that Wii was gonna to hold the number 1 spot, and that was fine as the Wii has been such an explosive success. So the fact that the evidence shows ps3 is likely to eventually overtake it is quite remarkable, and a staggering achievement worthy of praise
It's amazing what 50 bucks off can do.
Senran Kagura Breast Versus: around 120k
PSO2: around 90K
SS and ToHR
Edit: Dang, going from original Xbox lifetime sales of less than 30 millions to almost 80 millions for the X360, very impressive Microsoft...super well done.
360 may end up selling less than PS3 and or Wii but MS has increased their market share this gen. To be honest I'm amazed they were able to achieve this given the whole RROD fiasco.
Regardless of what happens for the remainder of this gen I dare say both MS and Sony will be looking for ways to increase the attach rate of games as that's where the real money is. Its simply not good business to have 70 million consoles in circulation and only sell a million copies of most games. Sure there are some exceptions but overall I can see why both companies have introduced measures to profit from second hand game sales.
They knew what they were doing, I knew and I will never buy another console from Microsoft again because of that.
If I had the money I would have sued their asses for what they pulled. Most people wouldn't know cause they never looked, but I was the few who actually took mine apart and could give a rats ass about that damn rainbow protection sticker...
Seriously though I was shocked not more people talk about that or it wasn't even on the net, I guess it goes to show how little people care to know what is inside what they buy.
The Heat sinks they put in the first Xbox 360's were made to cause the chips to fail and overheat, in all my life I seriously never had seen such cheap heat sinks in anything and was shocked to see someone as big as Microsoft using practically Tin heat sinks.. You can't tell me they didn't know better?
People who have been in the computing world longer than I have been alive didn't notice that? Hmm yea right, more like it was planned to sell more 360's when in fact like you said many of those sales were due, to people already owning a faulty system and having to buy another.
Shit had a LAN one time, first fucking day one of my friends was all stoked, he was watching us LAN on the 360 so he went out and bought one. That shit broke, that night.. I wish I was joking.. I felt so bad for him of course all of ours ended up doing the same shit at some point.
I was smarter than the average bear though, I would buy a new Xbox 360, strip the faulty one, put the new Xbox's case on the broken hardware and then I would simply return it.. Bam new 360 for me for free.. and not having to send shit in or actually spend money on another.. I had people pay me to do that, good times off of Microsoft mistakes I actually made a good bit of money doing that for people.
Funny how after those two years those, they release those new model and you would not believe how different the heat sink was in those.. They were sooo much better it wasn't even funny to me.. They knew what they were doing all along those bastards.
Sorry for the rant but man I will never forget that.. I literally lost count of how many I had to switch out myself.. not including all the other people who asked me to do the same to theirs..
Your false numbers come from the IDC report that state not only were the consoles "shipped" consoles but they also admitted they were "estimates". Not only are those 3rd party numbers and are not Sony's own numbers but the ignorant sony fanboys on this site keep spreading those 3rd party estimated shipped numbers as sony's own stated sold at retail market share numbers.
People like you need to stop spreading BS. Sony will eventually overtake MS before the year is done so long as MS keeps selling the 360 $100 too much, but as of right now, the 360 is still leading the PS3.
I like gamers with logic, there are so few of them on N4G. I bubbled you up for a very thought out comment. Well done, N4G needs more posters like you.
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So on a world wide sales chart, I don't have the right to congratulate Microsoft on a successful 8 year run for their second console; but yet, the first poster did the same thing for Sony, and the Agrees keep coming his way, LOL. Tell me what is wrong with the logic here?
Wow lol, he isn't allowed to congratulate MS but everyone else is allowed to praise Sony and get millions of 'agrees'? Lmao go home kid, this site is farked.
SDF is a blatant troll.
There's alwaysd a hidden agenda behind his words.
You get all the disagrees, by the way, for glossing over all the less-than-savory methods by which Microsoft reached those numbers.
Yes, the numbers ARE impressive, but less so than you'd like to believe.
I had both a Xbox and a PS2 by the way. My Xbox still works, I sold my PS2 after the third time the disc drive broke...
Xbox 360 flipped the other way. Microsoft's reliability dropped significantly. Let's not forget how the red ring tainted their current gen efforts.
The PS3 was far more reliable despite having some of their own launch system issues.
Both consoles secured a healthy depth of games. I think in terms of games, you didn't make a mistake in your choice of console in this gen.
Nice spin though.
360 74.5
PS3 73.2
Ummmm......a couple weeks ago they had only a million difference between the two, and the 360 increased the gap how?
PS3 has been outselling 360 by a good margin this year.
in fact 360 & PS3 sales are steamrolling towards 80 million and they still have them closer to 70 million.
so take the totals with a bit of salt.
SPIT TAKES
First week sales is good, hope it stabilizes at great numbers after this.
Amazingly the Xbox has not really had any exclusives since Halo and it's still doing incredible numbers... you gotta respect that. They will have to bring it with their next iteration...
I am impressed at the 3DS numbers seeing that 3D has kind of had it's run so it must be the games.. that is what it's about!
Sony has been the Dark horse all of this time.. truly mind blowing the people's spending dollar is huh? They have made some mistakes and had some set backs but if you were around in 06... well then you know.. the hardships LOL
What's even more impressive is that the Ps3 could be poised to outlive the ps2... that would be staggering because that would mean Sony will definitely have to take care of the Ps4 & the Ps3 like siblings. Which they've shown that they can.
I would say the price drop of the Vita had a resounding affect on Japanese gamers. It's almost as if they wanted it, but didn't want to pay that much for it.
I personally didn't think that it was a bad price point for launch. However, maybe a year or so in, I'd cut the price on it in all territories, launch new ads for it, and get them into the hands of more 3rd party devs AGAIN! Even find the mobile game devs (get that Temple Run franchise out on the Vita... with new functions!)...
Anyway as much as we have our favorite this and that and argue over which is best.. I'm just glad that we're still here gaming.. People who love this like we do and have thrown insane amounts of money at it to make games etc.. only to go bankrupt. Passion... risk
Stop the arguing take a second.. a deep breath and analyze this: what would we do without these games, PCs, consoles?? Keeps us going... peace
to bad the Wii U is not doing so good.
There is a real possibility that the Wii U could become Nintendos Dreamcast once the PS4 and XboxNext arrive.
Wow very good numbers for the Vita. The only thing that Sony and 3rd party developers need to do is support the handheld and i believe it will do just fine.
Now i know it will never outsell the 3DS but it can still be successful in the market.
I knew your day would come.. Let all the non-vitalievers weep in their own ill fated predictions..
Keep in mind people those Vita sales weren't all just because of the price cut. You know software sells hardware also and Japan has a lot of good Vita games right now.
and just only read the comments..... lol ^_^
Two factors will unfold.
Firstly, microsoft will expose their true install base, if their new console is durable. After 6 years, when 29 million have been sold, we will all know why this gen was successful for them. Selling 80 million consoles, and having a quarter of that number as live accounts is very revealing. To those who look anyway.
Secondly, they're going to focus on kinect supposedly, and this is the exact opposite of what their audience wants! This is microsoft yet again flipping the script on their customers and not caring.
SONY is truly going to dominate this gen.
To me it seems 250 dollars is the breaking point for consoles, once you reach 300 dollars and people see it as too much money.
Wii U will sell well once it goes down to 249.99 and every other console is above 300 dollars.
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It will take almost the whole 10 year life cycle, but I think it will get there.
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The classic Tortoise(PS3) vs. the Hare(Wii) story.
bad news for you that they are still being produced till now, and every sale that happen now is as important as every sale that happened in 2006.