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IGN - SimCity Burning: A Warning to Microsoft, Sony, and All Publishers...

It has been out for three days, and SimCity is broken. Seriously, unplayably broken. As a long-time fan who's been looking forward to this week for many years, this is a huge, frustrating disappointment.

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a_bro1206d ago

another reason why steam DRM is the best DRM? I guess so.

2pacalypsenow1206d ago

Steam is not a publisher or developer its just a place to buy and download games . If Simcity was on Steam it would have the same Always on DRM and it would be just as unplayable

Th3 Chr0nic1205d ago

steam aka VALVE (they make steam you know) is a developer. they only made half life series and so much much more

RememberThe3571205d ago

Publishers have to do something about pirating, they can't just sit back and let people steal their product. But there is a right way to do DRM, EA doesn't do it the right way. Origin was the stupidest idea they've come up with in years and it's been ruining their games since it launched.

Bimkoblerutso1205d ago

The difference is that Steam is a viable service. Sure, you are technically paying for an indefinite rental rather a product when you buy from Steam, but the games are often ridiculously cheap, the servers are generally very reliable and fast, games are easily organizable, and it actually makes playing games between multiple computers very convenient (as long as it's with the same account).

Valve seems to be the only such service that treats it AS A SERVICE rather than an underhanded means of consumer control.

Wagz221205d ago

As horrible as it is, if you look at all the reviews for it on amazon, its like comedy gold. Alot of really funny reviews, but that's the only good the game has done sadly.

nypifisel1205d ago

Gabe Newell is the only big shot I've heard who actually gets it, he believes that piracy is a product of poor legal options, and HE'S RIGHT! 1 pirated game doesn't translate to 1 lost sale, the ease and the good service Steam provides makes pirating obsolete, whoever pirates a game more often than not would never get the game unless pirating it wasn't available. (Steam - In a sense Valve, is a developer, publisher and a distributor^^). There's a reason Valve and Gabe is so loved amongst gamers and their games sell like hotcakes, they give us services we are willing to pay for. I'm not willing to pay for a game I'm not able to play.

morganfell1205d ago

Sorry Chronic but Steam is run by Valve, it isn't Valve. Steam is a service, a great one, but nevertheless just a service.

Steam does not set the DRM rules for titles fro non-Valve developed titles.

Steam provides hosting, patching and updates, beta abiilities, payment mechanisms, etc, but Steam is not Valve in the sense that whether a game is broken or not is not the responsibility of Steam when that game is developed by other than Valve. The game has to pass a very basic QA to get on to Steam.

Plenty of broken titles have appeared on Steam that were developed by third parties.

DeadlyFire1205d ago

I disagree. I believe if it were on Steam it would be playable day 1. EA's Origin is a rocky ship right now. They have no clue what they are doing with DRM on it. They need vast improvements before it will be perfected.

This is why I don't buy on Day one anymore. Its worst idea ever unless you know someone else that says it works great.

Megaton1205d ago

@357 - Steam sales do more to combat piracy than any 3rd party DRM ever will. It always gets cracked and fosters nothing but resentment among paying customers.

kryteris1205d ago

you do not always have to be connected to play steam games. There is an offline mode. To install/update it I am sure you have to be connected, but who cares.

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DonteDemonSlayer1205d ago

@ a_bro
You are a moron. Though Steam is better in regards to this, it's still better to not have it at all.
This article makes me laugh knowing that IGN is no longer in the pockets of EA. With the many recent EA titles getting sub par reviews, and the fact that IGN used to defend EA games to the death (Mass Effect 3 ending comes to mind) going as far to call people "entitled". It's all about the money, and if IGN owed EA the article would say "Why Single Player DRM is good for the industry" instead of this, which is just trying to get quick hits for the site.

a_bro1205d ago

call me a moron. dont care. but i haven't experienced this in steam games, well, with the exception of assassin's creed.

Mainsqueeze1205d ago

Bahahaha always has to be that IGN is getting paid off by someone. No no your right its not possible for different people to have different opinions on different pieces of software...

ThanatosDMC1205d ago

Ubisoft games on Steam has the annoying Uplay game launcher. Damn, thing actually eats a lot of cpu, gpu, and ram. Wish we can turn it off because it doesnt stop us from gaining Uplay points and playing the game.

Tr10wn1205d ago

idk they give ME3 Citadel DLC a pretty decent review 9.1 heck if they are not in the EA payroll then the DLC must be really good then.

hesido1205d ago (Edited 1205d ago )

Steam rocks. Its default DRM, unless enforced othwerwise by the publisher, has an offline mode. It is DRM, but the best of its kind. Again, by default, it lets you install games on unlimited number of systems, again, if the stupid publisher doesn't ask otherwise.

Steam doesn't require you to be online all the time, it doesn't boot you out of games if you are not online.

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DonteDemonSlayer1205d ago

Steam uses a sort of online DRM, but it isn't always on. It's possible to use steam in offline mode, or losing a connection while playing a game won't kick you out. UBISOFT titles from a few years back all had always on DRM for PC. This was obviously a terrible idea, and did nothing in the fight against piracy, and only served to hurt paying customers. DRM is a form of control, but for anyone with a brain you can't fight pirates as they will always find a way past it. In the end you only hurt your consumers who are paying. Regarding this game a pirate would only need to create a fake server to trick the game, and then they would be able to have a better experience than the paying customer, and that's just wrong. Not that I expect EA to stop being EA.

hesido1205d ago

A friend of mine bought FIFA. He couldn't play it on his first day (single player). He downloaded the cracked torrent version later on.

SilentNegotiator1205d ago (Edited 1205d ago )

Steam's DRM is still annoying, but it's the best of a bad thing. Tolerable.

"best DRM" still sounds like an idiom, however. If circumstances arise in which I can't afford internet one day, my Steam collection is about as good as gone....I wouldn't call that good.

Muffins12231205d ago

Well pirates are the reason drm even exists

SignifiedSix911205d ago

Poor development/policies from developers and publishers are why pirates exist.

I love the hell out of maxis and the SimCity series, but EA ruins that for me. They destroy games and great companies.

I wish Maxis would just leave EA and its crap behind and find someone else to publish for them.

Poor Maxis. :/

The new SimCity looks great, but part of me doesn't want to purchase it for the route EA forced it into.

Sadly, I'd pirate it if it ever hit TPB just to teach scummy EA a lesson, but i don't see that happening any time soon as the game runs most of the calculations off of the EA servers...

InTheZoneAC1205d ago

anyone that tries to argue otherwise is just a b**** making excuses for other reasons why they pirate games.

Rainstorm811205d ago (Edited 1205d ago )

Signified

EA bought Maxis in 1997....are you saying Maxis hasn't had a good game since then because of EAs meddling?

The thing is this situation is bad, and EA does some stupid things that effect gamers negatively ....but let's not act like EA can do no good....Maxis became a stronger company with better games after being acquired by EA (the Sims come to mind)just like Criterion.

Lets judge each incident of its own and not take one incident and label every EA product the same because of it

Th3 Chr0nic1205d ago

@morgan all i said is valve is a dev, cause they are. yea they run steam but i didnt say steam was a dev. you read a lot into what ppl say and put a lot of your own meaning into it dont you

Viper71205d ago

//Steam provides digital rights management (DRM) for software titles, by providing "custom executable generation" for executable files that are unique for each user, but allow that user to install the software on multiple computing devices via Steam or through software backups without limitations.// -wikipedia.

a_bro was just saying that DRM provided by steam is far better than the alternatives.

Sure, they allow publishers and developers to use additional DRM methods as well.

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MaideninBlack1206d ago

Sad. I was looking forward to playing this too. Was excited when it was announced since I've enjoyed all other Sim City games in the past.

Guess I'll stick to SC:RH.

lociefer1206d ago (Edited 1206d ago )

i just hate seeing the EA logo now , WTF IS HAPPENING TO THIS INDUSTRY !

PirateThom1206d ago

It's about to suffer a major crash. It will hurt a lot of people and companies, but the strong ones, the ones who have built good customer relations and not screwed customers around will come back stronger.

Hingle_Mcringleberry1206d ago (Edited 1206d ago )

One can only hope.

azshorty20031205d ago

I've believed one is coming for a while now. The way things are headed just isn't good.

blue_flowers1205d ago

as a long time gamer, my sentiment is the same. i hope for a good crash to set the industry back on the right path.

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clintagious6501206d ago (Edited 1206d ago )

Whats the objective of this game? Watched a video & it looks like your just building stuff around the city lol. Is that suppose to be fun? Not trying to say the game is bad but if thats all u do, i dont see the fun in it.

Edit: I see thanx for the explanation. I guess it could be fun, i just thought it would be funner if u could build the city like this & actually get to run around with other online friends and check out the city u created lol. Just a thought.

PirateThom1206d ago

I can't speak for anyone else, but managing a city is pretty fun. I haven't played this one, but have played the old ones and other games like Theme Park and Theme Hospital and the whole mangement aspect is, honestly, a lot of fun.

Elwenil1206d ago (Edited 1206d ago )

It's not for everyone but considering the popularity of the series, a lot of people find it fun. The challenge is designing and building a city that works. I haven't played the new one but if it's anything like the old ones you start out with a plot of land, start building roads and neighborhoods, commercial and industrial zones, add a power plant, water supply and pipes, etc.

As your city grows your sims will demand more residential, commercial or industrial zones. They might complain that there is not enough police or fire coverage in an area, the traffic on a particular road is too high or pollution from the new airport you just built is too high. You have to balance the complaints with what you are able to fix by adding more police and fire stations, larger roads, or doing something to reduce pollution. Since your income is taxes, you have to balance sim happiness with what you can afford. There are tons of options and assets you can add that change various things like education, transportation, pollution, power and water, sim happiness, etc.

It's a pretty good challenge to get a city up and running and not run into financial difficulties or all your sims leaving town because they are unhappy for one of a million reasons. It is what it says it is, a "sim city" or simulation city. Simulations are not everyone's cup of tea but tons of people love them.