Submitted by rmedtx 847d ago | news

Microsoft’s new Kinect patent goes Big Brother, will spy on you for the MPAA

Joel Hruska at ExtremeTech.com writes:
Microsoft has filed for a patent on a system that would monitor the number of people watching a movie at home -- and prompt them to buy more licenses if a few friends came over. (Kinect, Microsoft, Tech, Xbox One)

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ichimaru  +   847d ago
"will spy on you"
well good to see N4G's rumor mill is getting less slanderous
said no one

in this solar system

BanBrother  +   847d ago | Well said
This deserves all the slander in the world. This patent is pure evil, nothing less. If it were ever implemented in anything, I would not buy it at all.

Unless they pay me every time a jack-off or have sex in front of it. Has to work both ways. They are getting a free show out of everything.
SilentNegotiator  +   847d ago
The US government already allows monitoring of the entire internet as to get people on a six strike system that allows corporations to punish copyright infringement WITHOUT bringing it to court.

When will we put our foot down?
nix  +   847d ago
4 months old news but it's still pretty scary.
bullymangLer  +   847d ago
sounds like yee know yur stuff . another word for big brother is illuminatti reptillians . .and if you do not believe me or the FACT that you will be looked upon by jealous and envious beings called draconians through microsofts next stay at home and stay oblivious to whats really going on gaming machine, then you best think twice about what is movie and what is reality, because all movies are inspired by true events based on meta physical manifestations that yall think is just hollywood fun times. . .. . in time you will all know and come to understand why the heck nintendo is so damn powerful and on top of ALL. this is not YOUR planet, gaia is theirs, we are just intruders to THEM vibrating at level 3 . most of you will stay at level 3, and never evolve into levels 5 and higher where LOVE and CREATION are one . . sitting at home wasting your time playing games not knowing the TRUTH about Mother Earths hidden activity is where they want us . .i recommend you guys play Metroid Other M or Perfect Dark 64 to understand a little bit about what they DONT want YOU to KNOW about . . anyone disagreeing with me will find themselves having an out of body experience shortly . .
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Nevers  +   846d ago
I was paranoid about what the Kinect was doing when ON but not in use already anyway, so mine has been unplugged for months now.
DOMination-  +   846d ago
But i thought patents don't mean anything? That's what you guys said when Sony filed one to block used games on ps4 anyway.
ichimaru  +   846d ago
"pure evil" XD please do explain what Microsoft plans on doing after they have exacted their dastardly planned and collected enough footage of your living room. which agency gets the goods first, NSA, no no Interpol
Knight_Crawler  +   847d ago
Rumor has it that the XBox 720 will serve you ice cold Guinness and fried Bacon glazed with Nutella.
Mr_cheese  +   847d ago
Fried bacon glazed in nutella sounds horrible lol, do people actually eat that?
ArronC07  +   847d ago
@Mr_cheese I knew someone who would eat bacon sandwiches with tomato ketchup and Nutella. He's was nuts though, like proper nuts.
Alcohog  +   846d ago
Tomato ketchup, eh?
konnerbllb  +   847d ago
I'll just hang a picture of someone sitting on my couch of the kinect. Homer Simpson maybe. Problem solved
Mr_cheese  +   847d ago
Just a thought, but cant we simply unplug it...
Not if the rumors are true.

JsonHenry  +   847d ago
They kinect already spies on you and they've been caught doing it and admitted to it. Most gamers don't care about this and others deny it even though it was front page news. This type of tech just goes in line with this story here - http://rt.com/usa/darpa-con...

These companies are getting tax breaks and other incentives to work this sort of technology into your consumer electronics. The head of the CIA recently bragged in a press conference that everything including your washing machine is now spying on you for them through the use of smart grid technology. Seriously I am surprised so many people try to bury their heads in the sand and say it isn't true when they admitted as much on national television themselves.
onyoursistersback  +   847d ago
what if im chocking the chicken in MY LIVING ROOM, will this thing see me....?!?!

"Old MacDonald had a farm,

And on his farm he had some chicks,
knifefight  +   847d ago
Point into the camera, smile, finish.
Cupid_Viper_3  +   847d ago
Pfff.... First world problem

I have an easy solution to this problem.

If everyone in the room stand in a straight line one behind another, you can fool the Kinect into thinking that you're just one very large person with slightly more limbs than the average person.

And voila...now if that sh!t can also track your eyes, than I suggest that you best be the first to get to poking.

you'll thank me later.
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ACEMANWISE  +   847d ago
The internet is considered a public place. Therefore it's the same thing as standing on a sidewalk doing it. The police will come, arrest, and put you in jail.
dredgewalker  +   847d ago
You forgot that you are entitled to have your privacy inside your own home. This is a violation of your rights.
SilentNegotiator  +   847d ago
You can call any phone number. Do you think phone calls are "public space"?
HeavenlySnipes  +   847d ago
I can't believe you took your time to type such an idiotic rationalization for this. Lmao wow
Root  +   847d ago
Blue Tac - Camera Lens - Problem Solved
SilentNegotiator  +   847d ago
If they ever go to the trouble of implementing such a patent, they'll PROBABLY consider that and not allow you to watch that way.
ThatXboxGuy  +   847d ago

Thats it for me and xbox.You just go too far Microsoft.Every time.
classic200  +   847d ago | Funny
LOL if microsoft can make a guy called thatxboxguy upset then its really bad
Kingthrash360  +   847d ago
Lmmfao! Wow......awsome, thats....just ....awsome.
shoddy  +   847d ago
Now this guy have common sense.
Liquid_Ocelot  +   847d ago
That was classic ;)
SDF Repellent  +   847d ago
@ThatXboxGuy (a.k.a the artist formerly known as ThatKansasGuy),

After switching the PS logo to the xbox logo, I see you also changed your user name. Now you have completely infiltrated the Microsoft camp. What tricks you got next? That is as low a fanboy can go. LOL
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tommygunzII  +   846d ago
Ya'll crazy lol
Wenis  +   847d ago
I highly doubt that the Kinect 2 will actually be spying on you. But at the same time it makes me wonder why they even bother patenting crap like this.
joab777  +   847d ago
I actually read this somewhere else that if too many ppl are in a room watching a movie, it wont play the movie or prompt for more money.

But, like used games etc., i think that they patent fir the future. If it doesnt play blu rays like one source mentioned...i guess it would have to be digital and i would have to own one.
PR_FROM_OHIO  +   847d ago
Don't worry Microsoft your fans will still support this and find a way to make it look like it's awesome to be spied on smh
Count  +   847d ago
You know Google spies on you too. Take a stand! Don't use Google anymore!
PR_FROM_OHIO  +   847d ago
How with what camera?? Lol
BitbyDeath  +   847d ago
Every company spies on you, just not physically like this patent implies.
ozzywazzy  +   847d ago
Spy on my google activity for all I care but don't spy on me commiting sexually degenerate unforgivable acts in my living room!!
TemplarDante  +   847d ago
Dude Bro1: Dude, that Johnny 5 head thing I got with my xbox keeps looking at me when Im playing with myself in front of the t.v !
Dude Bro2: Sweet dude, Im going to rush home now and see if my Kinect is just as awesome!
Dude Bro1: Dude, its such a turn on!

*MSFT HQ Steve Ballmer gazes into a tv monitor*
Steve Ballmer: Interesting....what technique....
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Soldierone  +   847d ago
And people wonder why people pirate things..... how stupid.

"sorry, but your entire family isn't allowed to watch this movie. Yeah our movies suck, but if you don't pay 5 dollars per person you can't watch more than ten minutes"
ACEMANWISE  +   847d ago
They want it to be like the box office where you buy tickets for each person entering the theater. The living room is becoming the new theater experience and they want people to pay. Same concept for video games. They want to make it like arcades where people once went and each payed to play.
Soldierone  +   847d ago
Absolutely, and I couldn't hate this idea any more.

Next thing you know books have little finger print sensors on the cover. If someone new wants to read it they have to pay, or the book won't open.
DarkBlood  +   847d ago
could point the kinect camera elsewhere and put a cardboard cutup of a person there lol :P

but yeah this is bullshit i will not buy the xbox if this is a standard feature
ACEMANWISE  +   847d ago
They think this will bring much more profit to the industry but once people catch on to what they're agreeing to the industry will fall apart.

Right now no one really cares until it happens to them personally. Lost backups, untransferable game saves, banned accounts, non available game titles that you already bought but can't recover, Expired DLC codes inside games on sale new, companies going out of business/leaving the industry/or seperating console generation services, console limits, copyrighted game saves, copyrighted games that can't be backed up, time limits, expired dates attached to digital games, inability to deactivate a console when it breaks, console download limits, etc.

All these things and more are slowly happening to gamers this gen...and slowly but surely the system will collapse, snowballing the effect next gen when the commitment to this system of business ramps up.

Can you imagine what would've happened to the Wii's success had they pulled stunts like this? The entire reason for their number one status is due to the family social fabric brought together through an innovative controller anyone could use. The industry would flop. Why? Well because this whole "pay per person" concept is very antifamily, even antisocial. Yet the industry wants to join people together. This is why I see it coming. They will implement a system that's going to piss off the top two biggest consumer groups ever formed in the history of gaming. You watch.
BitbyDeath  +   847d ago
Remember what Sony said about patents. They just file this stuff when they think them up, doesn't mean it'll come to pass.

And here's hoping it doesn't cause this one in particular sounds pretty evil.
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Conzul  +   847d ago
I highly doubt that this patent will ever be used.

...then again, I bet my friend a night on the town if Obama ever tried to take our guns away, so.....I could be wrong I suppose.
TemplarDante  +   847d ago
I read it would scan the room for objects to feed you advertisments from the companies you may prefer.. this includes football jerseys and team merchandise...
I bet theres a few guys on N4G that are going to get it on with the mrs.. only to be fed adverts for penise enlargers next time they log onto xbox live dashboard.
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MxRBrobaFett  +   847d ago | Funny
Guess ill have to cook meth somewhere other than in front of my Xbox now
Relientk77  +   847d ago
Haha bubs up
ACEMANWISE  +   847d ago
I told you this was what the industry is planning.

No used games.
Games accessed, not owned.
Always through a service
ID System like face, voice, and fingerprint to limit number of people
ID System to hold people accountable for their actions.
Monitoring system for law enforcement warrants or illegal activity.
nigelp520  +   847d ago
TemplarDante  +   847d ago
*reads article*
Ubisoft-Watch_Dogs inspiration.
Shadow Man  +   847d ago
On June 11th, Microsoft will introduce Kinect 2.0. And you'll see why 2013 won't be like 2013.
talisker  +   847d ago
It will be like 1984.
ApolloTheBoss  +   847d ago
Here comes Skynet.
ACEMANWISE  +   847d ago
It's worse than that, I'm afraid. In the real world the machines don't find humanity a threat to their existance. They find humanity has become dependant on them instead. In the real world, living through automated control with no target is worse than fighting for a cause against an enemy you can see and dying.
DarkBlood  +   847d ago
so the matrix? :P
ApolloTheBoss  +   847d ago
Lol I was trying to be funny, friend. Why so serious?
Relientk77  +   847d ago
Yeah, uhh I kinda prefer not to be spied on
Max-Zorin  +   847d ago
Soon we will be hunted by T-1000's.
dcbronco  +   847d ago
If this was ever used you think it might be for first run movies like the one they have exclusively on Live now. Most likely not for homes. But if someone has a business and uses it. Most likely this is a patent that would never be used because I'm sure it is a violation of privacy and would be illegal.
Jek_Porkins  +   847d ago
What happened to patents don't mean they'll use them? I mean that was the standard response when Sony had patents for weird things.

I highly doubt anyone would sit there and spy on you through a Kinect or Eye or webcam.
Hicken  +   847d ago
I disagreed because it's you.

Also, it's not like there weren't ANY people saying, "Oh noez! Sony's blocking teh used gaemz!" That happened when Sony's patents were brought up, and it's happening here.

Deal with it.
Jek_Porkins  +   846d ago
This is the Sony Defense Team here at N4G, nobody ever says anything negative about Sony, and you damn well know it. They invented everything, have the best games, only care about core gamers and never do any wrong. They invented gaming, just like Al Gore invented the internet.

Sony patents in game ads, "No big deal".

Sony shows Move and a camera at the PS4 unveil and nobody blinks an eye.

Get outta here kid.
porkChop  +   847d ago

Dude this article is from November... Have you been under a rock? This isn't news.
Feldman9000  +   847d ago
You all do realize that China already has this with their game systems. They actually have the kinect, it's just called something else.
triplev16  +   847d ago
Prompt me to buy more licenses? Watching me in front of my television? This thing'll sell like hotcakes.

I know it's just a patent. But knowing they have the patent alone frightens me.
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stuna1  +   847d ago
The sad thing is we as Gamers understand the reapurcutions of something like this, and how it could be used in a negative way, but what about the average Joe out there who has no idea of what this could turn into, they'll see something like this advertised and they run out there and buy it.
GraveLord  +   847d ago
Enjoy the show Microsoft. I'll be jerking off for you every day at midnight.
stuna1  +   847d ago
You can't forget about the cigarette.
BitbyDeath  +   847d ago
If this is really on all the time i wonder how long it'll take til someone hacks it and transmits the feeds to their own house.
brich233  +   847d ago
This license thing would work if the cost of these license are cheap, and im talking $0.50 to $1.00 per person. But i dont think people are going to like this. In fact, i would never allow Kinect to monitor me watch a movie. Go to hell Kinect and r.i.p.
Soldierone  +   847d ago
Even if it is that "cheap" do you honestly think it will stay that way? Eventually we will hear "but but but costs are too high, so now we need to charge 3.99 a person!"

I mean this is the same industry that threw a fit because Redbox offered 99 cent one day rentals.....
brich233  +   847d ago
I just thought about this, what if i move the kinect 2 feet from my face and lets say the Tv is 7 feet in front of me and its a 40 inch, get where im going here. Just picture how many people Can be sitting within 5 feet of the TV. This Kinect license thing has its flaws. I see it failing fast.
gpturbo81  +   847d ago
tachy0n  +   847d ago
Welcome to the New World Order.

the government knows your privacy is being raped and they wont do anything.
Max-Zorin  +   847d ago
Looks like I won't be able to roll a blunt in piece anymore if I own the next Xbox.
whoyouwit04  +   847d ago
I don't know why everyone is flipping out for this is just a patent, it doesn't mean they are going to use it just like sony probably won't use that patent to block used games.
BitbyDeath  +   847d ago
Charging you to use your own living room is a lot worse than not being able to play used games.
whoyouwit04  +   847d ago
What hell do that has to do with any thing? I said they may not use this patent just like sony may not use theirs plain and simple, I never said it was a good or bad thing. this could be one of those thing they just wanted to patent just encase someone else came up with the idea. It may not and hopefully not ever see the light of day, so why take it seriously?
BitbyDeath  +   847d ago
Calm down killer, sounded like you were making a comparison with your first statement.
just-joe  +   847d ago
It's Sky-net.
ziggurcat  +   847d ago
"Microsoft has filed for a patent on a system that would monitor the number of people watching a movie at home -- and prompt them to buy more licenses if a few friends came over."

not that patents matter because almost none of them see the light of day, but this is a little too ridiculous.
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