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Submitted by john2 531d ago | news

Brigade Engine’s developer believes that PS4 will offer Ray/Path Tracing, New Screenshot & Video

DSOGaming writes: "Ray Tracing is considered by a lot as the holy grail of computer graphics and lighting. However, there haven’t been any engines capable of offering such a feature in the last couple of years. And even though we’ve got some path tracing engines lately, like the Brigade 2 Engine, we’ve still have a long way until we get games without those annoying noise side-effects. Or not? According to Samual Lapere, OTOY’s graphics developer, Playstation 4 might be able to offer real-time ray tracing in a couple of games." (Brigade 2 Engine, PC, PS4, Tech)

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Cobain19  +   531d ago
Incoming ray tracing in next-gen games huh? Sounds promising
Sure does. I remember being blown away by raytracer in my old animation days. Didn't gt5 use some slight raytracing in it's photo mode?
T900  +   531d ago
Not gonna happen. If it will it will be reserved for the highest end of PCs. Mid range PCs might be able to handle it 2-3 years later.
jony_dols  +   531d ago
Obviously T900 knows the PS4 tech better than the head graphics developer of the Brigade 2 engine.

/sarc x 100000000000 0000000000 0000000000
T900  +   531d ago
@jony_dols

Best not to fall for hype. Before PS3 was launched there were chants of 1080p capable, although it was termed "capable", most people assumed most games will be running in 1080p. Bottom line none of the demanding games ever ran in 1080p most were limited to 720p.

Xbox 360 claimed to have some form of tessellation never used it in games.

Console makers generally promise more to create hype deliver less, its a fact.
DeadlyFire  +   531d ago
The new OpenRL API could be in use in one or both new consoles. There has been no official word from either side.

OpenRL itself is setup for use in combination with OpenCL and possibly other APIs like OpenGLES. Its funny PS has used a variation of OpenGLES for quite a while. GPGPUs use OpenCL. So its possible the API exists and runs on the hardware without any extra hardware at all.

We don't really know the potential of OpenRL as it was designed to be used with an extra chip in combination with hardware that already exists, but no games have ever been made in motion for it just yet. We could see some interesting stuff regardless of it being there or not.

Its funny how PS4 spec sheets on rumors always had a 922 Gigaflops number behind the 1843 spec as well. It could be OpenRL chip, but only time will tell.
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jony_dols  +   530d ago
@T9000:

It was Sony and their 1st party studios that hyped up 1080p gaming on the PS3 pre-launch.

This is a 3rd party engine software dev with no affiliation to the Playstation brand that is saying that the hardware may be capable of real-time ray tracing. Hence the sarcasm about N4G commenters knowing the hardware capabilities of an unreleased console above professional graphics developers with hands-on experience.
ATi_Elite  +   531d ago
Next Gen Consoles doing Ray Tracing LMAO....yeh just like PS3/X360 could do AAA 1080p Games
Oh boy I guess Next week the PS4 can cure Cancer and Terraform Mars into an Earth like planet!

Sure the HD7770 or HD7750 that's going into the PS4 has Ray Tracing capabilities BUT.....

Currently every Ray Tracing Engine you see running is being done on a GTX580 SLI or higher set-up!

Sure there is plenty of optimization left to do BUT....

Ray Tracing is a "Crysis Moment" for PC Gamers. We are not gonna have a Ray Traced game for another 2 to 3 years and we are all gonna have to upgrade to play it meaning the PS4/x720 with their by then OBSOLETE hardware will not be able to handle it.

There is speculation as to whether the PS4 can handle Arma 3 on Ultra and you guys wanna bring up Ray Tracing....OMG!
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OpenGL  +   531d ago
2-3 years seems like a very liberal estimate, unless Nvidia's Maxwell and successors are truly remarkable.
zebramocha  +   530d ago
@ati the ps4 gpu is in between an hd 7850/7870,imagination technology has purchase a company that develop a chip to accelerates ray tracing.
HiddenMission  +   530d ago
Dude did someone piss in your cereal or something. Your a PC fan I get it, you don't think highly of PS4 I get it.

Thing is 3rd party developers believe it's more than possible so you gain nothing by talking down the PS4...really you gain nothing.

If gamers and developers want to believe and enjoy doing so why does it affect you at all?

Why don't you just go play Arma 3 on Ultra and be happy while console gamers look forward to our next gen?
grailly  +   530d ago
Am I the only one to think that lighting in games is overrated? I'm fine with texture lighting, I don't think that having it be dynamic or realistic adds much.

good shaders do look quite good, but it seems like so much work goes into lighting when it really doesn't add much
SatanSki  +   531d ago
Not gonna happen if you want to render more then some balls and cubes. Hardware is just waaay to weak
OpenGL  +   531d ago
Agreed, it's a waste of hardware resources anyway, look at how slow Nvidia's raytracing tech demos were on the GTX 580, a GPU that is pretty similar in power to what is in the PS4.

We might see some ray-tracing tech-demos but rasterization is much more efficient so games will continue to use it.
It IS pretty friggin slow. took me an hour once to render one frame of a room that only had a window and a table in it. But that was one gorgeous table lol.
nirwanda  +   531d ago
Looks great when it's still and then it moves and you get noise everywhere and thats exactly what you don't need in gaming.
cyhm3112  +   531d ago
10 years later at least if you want to do it properly and holistically
Psychotica  +   531d ago
I remember doing some ray tracing with my old Commodore Amiga, it used to take hours to generate a single picture.
taiyed80  +   530d ago
nice
solidboss07  +   530d ago
I know PS3 games never used such impossible techniques , but was there not a Demonstration of PS3 actually doing it in real time or was that a hoax?
RevXM  +   530d ago
Yes I could swear PD made a ray tracing demo that.
Were realtime but ran on multiple clustered dev kit ps3's.

Dont take my word on it but Ill be looking it up now, so lets hold on for a minute.

....
Found nothing, but ray tracing will be nice to have in the future.
Ps4 can prolly do it. But Im sure it wont be big until ps5 comes around.
Takes a lot of juice to run and maybe there will be technology giving similar results for less by the time ray tracing becomes a viable option. Lighting technology have really come far in a few years now.
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isarai  +   530d ago
If the guy developing the tech says it could be possible then i believe him.

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