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What Nintendo Can Do to Win this Console Cycle

Oprainfall writes:

"This should have written after E3 2011, after the unveiling of the Wii U. Or after the lackluster E3 2012 conference. Or just before the system launched. But soon after the official unveiling of the PS4, this seems just as appropriate as ever. So, let’s dive into my ideas of how the Wii U can survive and possibly thrive this generation."

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Bumpmapping1212d ago

100$ price cut some new IP's and a miracle.

_QQ_1212d ago

Sony's stocks have recently been downgraded to "junk"status, if anyone needs a miracle it is Sony, they may even go bankrupt in 4-5 years.

BrianC62341212d ago

How exactly is $15.51 a share junk status? You don't know anything about the stock market, do you?

b-real1212d ago

@BrianC6234

These ratings have nothing to do the value of each share. Junk status refers to a firm that has to offer bonds with high return to make up for the fact that there is a high likelihood of defaults.

Steelmanner1212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

Although a price cut is unlikely at this point I would like to point out that the WiiU is at a price that is practical. I'm guessing you have a Playstation 3, becasue of your icon, and you have have gotten a deal if it were less than 350. Also, with stronger tech in the WiiU than the wii the price would have to be increased to pay for it, in addition the Tablet controller is a bit pricey, but that just Nintendo being Nintendo. They don't just give you a console and a controller they have always strived to have that big idea to set themselves apart. Also, with other next gen consoles on the horizon I wouldn't be surprised at all if both were at least 350 with the processing power, and other features, they claim they have.

However, I do slightly agree with the IP bit the games a at launch lacked in the US, but the games there were great. For example ZombiU is an amazeing game and if it weren't for those for the lack of online play and a few bad reviews it would have been a legitimate Title for Survival Horror. Also, Super Scribblenauts Ultimate is just a blast. I have loved every scribblenauts game so far and I have no reason to believe this one won't satisfy me. Unfortunetly, Nintendo held off on Titles like Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate in the U.S. also other titles were postponed for the WiiU because it takes a while to learn how to program for a new console.Luckily though the games are coming and they should be alot of fun when they get here.

Thatguy-3101212d ago

Zombie u isn't an amazing game. It's good at best. The last of us would teach it a thing a two once it releases.

WiiUsauce1212d ago

@dboyc310, ZombiU is a 3rd party game and it is good, not great. I own it, you've probably never played it.

Also don't compare a first party Sony title to a third party Nintendo game. Wait til something comparable comes out from Nintendo. Probably the next Retro Studios game (some Naughty Dogg devs are working at Retro Studios now). Then we'll talk.

Enemy1212d ago

Lmao @ Bumpmapping. Everyone will forget the Wii U even existed when the PS4 and next Xbox come out. If it ain't selling now, it ain't gonna sell later.

EliteGameKnight1212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

"If it ain't selling now, it ain't gonna sell later"

The possibility of that is incredibly slim. For instance the PS3 and Xbox 360 had a rough selling period at the beginning. The PS3 was rather expensive and lacked games, similar to the Wii U, and the Xbox 360 suffered from the infamous Red Ring of Death which both cut sales and costed Microsoft a fortune in replacements.

Despite this both consoles became majorly popular and introduced many people to the world of gaming. I doubt that the Wii U will be forgotten, It may very well be less popular compared to the PS4 and Nextbox, but we just don't know yet.

If I could afford it, I would get all the consoles for the exclusives alone. After all, isn't that why we game? for the sheer entertainment of it. Let's not fill our subculture with rivalries and hatred when we're all here for the same purpose, to play!

WiiUsauce1212d ago

there were months when the PS2 was outselling the PS3. So by your logic, the PS3 should've been a failure. Have a seat.

AKR1212d ago

"If it ain't selling now, it ain't gonna sell later."

- Well by that logic, the XBOX 360, PS3 and 3DS should have all flopped eons ago. Once Microsoft got it's hardware errors resolved, and developers got good quality games releasing, the 360 took off.

- Once devs started getting good quality games releasing, and it got a price cut - the PS3 took off to. Same scenario with the 3DS.

All consoles launch on a rough road, so I don't know what foolishness you're talking about. The Wii U is already selling more than the PS3 and 360 in the same space of time (their beginning months.)

All the Wii U needs right now is a steady stream of quality games and it's good to go. A price cut, although nice, isn't possible - according to Nintendo, who's already selling the system at a LOWER PRICE than it takes to MAKE it.

When quality software starts revving up, so will the system's sales. Same can be said for Vita, too. Even when the PS4 and XBOX 720 come along, that doesn't doom the U. Once again - if it's library is getting freshly updated with fun, quality titles - it's set. Not to mention it's lower price-tag, and complete backwards~compatibility will also be a plus point, when it's on the display shelf with it's competitors.

pain777pas1212d ago

Here is the thing Nintendo is in a very difficult position. Sony has the 1st party strength in reality IF your not in love with Mario and Zelda. We all are guilty of our Mario and Zelda nostalgia but in moving gaming forward with proven developers who constantly reinvent themselves, its Sony. Nintendo is holding on and they will never fail because of Mario and handhelds but they will not fair that well this gen no matter the price. Games are just going to be that good this gen in every way. This will be the PS2 era all over again. Not is sales but in the no loading times etc... Plus, the things like stopping and starting on the PS4 is such a big deal that... yeah. Price might not save them in the least because the PS3 and 360 can still compete with the Wii U and be a logical alternative honestly. Nintendo should have combined their home and portable offerings by releasing a portable tablet console running on gingerbread or something... A tethered tablet is just too restrictive in my opinion.

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PopRocks3591212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

All they need to do to "win" is succeed in making a profit. Just like Microsoft succeeded in the previous two generations and just like how Sony succeeded for the previous three, even with the rocky start for the PS3.

onyoursistersback1212d ago

win what?? sales???
if anything Nintendo has won the young hearts of millions!!!
Sales thou.....they need AAA games.

Jobesy1212d ago

"won the young hearts of millions"

Not sure about that. I think more parents buy their kids Nintendo products because of reputation and nostalgia more than the kids are actually asking for them. Between my son, nephews, nieces, their friends, and my friends kids all of them would rather play on a PS3, 360 or even tablets before Nintendo products. I asked my 7th grader if people were taking about the Wiiu and the general consensus was it's "lame".

I really want Nintendo to do well, but why don't they expand their 1st party lineup with new ips. Keep Mario, Zelda, Metroid, but promote and nurture new Ips first and foremost.

Qrphe1212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

I doubt Microsoft made a profit with the Xbox. It was out for 3-4 years before the 360 came out and it was expensive to make to begin with. Plus software sales weren't stellar.

C0MPUT3R1212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

Microsoft lost $5 Billion dollars on the original Xbox.
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Then started out by losing $4 Billion dollars the first few years of the 360s life. (Selling at $150 loss & RROD).
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Xbox 360 has been profitable for 5 years running since.
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Onto the Wii U
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I find it funny Nintendo fans keep saying. "Wait till 3D Mario, Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash Brothers, etc. THEN IT WILL TURN AROUND.
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The GAMECUBE had all of those.
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How did it do? 22 Million. Yeah.
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What is scarier is the fact the GC was at least on par with PS2 generationally. Now they are a gen behind with, an archaic Account system, Online, and OS feature set.
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The system is going to get undercut the entire gen by the cheaper PS360. And smashed over the head by the more powerful PS4720.
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And to top it all off the controller is going to keep the system unnecessarily more expensive.
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I am not going to argue Nintendo is doomed that is stupid. BUT the Wii U is.

PopRocks3591212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

@C0MPUT3R

Generally speaking, gaming was less mainstream at the time. The PS2 sold a lot based on its software and word of mouth more so than anything else. Since the Wii's break into the casual audience, I think gaming has become a lot more mainstream than it used to be.

Sure, Mario and all of those games didn't make GCN sales skyrocket, but one price drop and two Mario games after launch the 3DS, especially now that a broader audience has been introduced to Nintendo franchises, not only picked back up but it also became a top seller.

Saying the Wii U is doomed, four months into its life when the Vita has been selling worse for the better portion of its time (yes, I'm aware it sold better during one week in the UK and another in Japan, but neither sold very well at the time) is ludicrous.

kamikazepikmin1212d ago

really? losing 4 billion dollars from the 360 is a success, and sony losing $6 billion on the ps3 is also a success. odd

delboy1212d ago

You right, the only winner this gen was Nintendo.
Same will happen next gen, Sony and Ms will be forced to sell their hardware with loss to compete with WiiU.
So don't be surprised if ps4 turns out to be the final nail for Sony.

OpenGL1212d ago

Microsoft lost more than $3,000,000,000 on the original Xbox and the 360 lost a few billion during its first couple years due to the high hardware costs and RROD issues.

A more apt comparison would be to the Gamecube, which made Nintendo hundreds of millions a year despite the platform only selling a little over 22 million units over a 5 year period.

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arbitor3651212d ago

i think the ship has sailed on this one. most of the wii u's problems are in-built.

it simply wont be able to keep up with the increasing demands of developers for strong next gen tech. its hard to develop for to boot.

and it certainly wont be able to match the online features that the PS4 and surely the 720 are bringing to the table. not in the slightest.

this article showers us with nintendo first party titles, but that mentality is exactly what got nintendo into this dilemma. nintendo clearly does not take third party support (or online) seriously at all.

first party games did not save the N64 and they did not save the gamecube. the only reason the wii sold was because of casual support. and that market is long gone at this point.

so, in short, the wii u is doomed.

kirbyu1212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

Yeah, sure, if you care about meaningless details like that.

The Wii U will succed, because people are going to buy it.

People will buy it when SSB4 comes out, when 3D Mario comes out, when Zelda comes out, when anything else worth playing comes out.

PopRocks3591212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

Ignore the original comment. If his ideology was based on facts, the 3DS and the PS3 would have tanked miserably. He also conveniently forgot to mention that despite low hardware sales, the N64 and the GCN were both profitable consoles in the long run and therefor were financially successful on Nintendo's part.

@disagrees

Tell me, what crystal ball does arbitor365 have that has you guys so convinced that what he's saying is written in stone?

Root1212d ago

" meaningless details like that. "

So the console not being able to keep up with third party support despite that being something Nintendo were hoping to improve on with this console unlike the Wii, is meaningless.

No...it's a problem because if most third party devs won't support it now how the hell are they going to keep up in the future.

It will end up like what the Wii was to the 360/PS3

kirbyu1212d ago

@Root
I was just joking with the first part. I was saying it's not something anyone thinks about when playing a game. They're important, but, imagine this: You're playing something on Wii U, is it's slow loading speed at all what you're thinking about?

kamikazepikmin1212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

@arbitor. after reading that post, i think i contracted cancer.

RTheRebel1212d ago

Cant take you seriously after debating mld and losing to him lol

arbitor3651212d ago

when did I ever debate MLD? I posted a few comments on one of his videos over a year ago. and I think that is the extent of my interactions with him.

is that guy even still making videos? if so, that is kinda sad.

BitbyDeath1212d ago

I'd be more interested if they got rid of the tablet.

Donnieboi1212d ago (Edited 1212d ago )

Nintendo can definately have a chance at a win if they kick that bum Iwata to the curb. He's been keeping the hardcore fans and 3rd party devs at bay ever since he became prez during the Gamecube era.

LOL_WUT1212d ago

@ Donnieboi Well said bubbles ;)

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