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Submitted by legendoflex 558d ago | opinion piece

Nintendo Fans are Too Smart to Buy Third-Party AAA Games

GenGAME writes: "Touted as the most third-party friendly Nintendo platform since the SNES, Wii U had a bunch of third-party games at launch. Sure, most of them were late ports, but as I’ve said before, most gamers (believe it or not) are actually single-console gamers. Opening up a new can of games that Nintendo fans have never had the chance to play should work like a charm, no?

"So why didn’t these games sell on Wii U? Here’s a theory: what if it’s not about Nintendo fans not wanting to play anything that doesn’t come from Nintendo? What if it’s more about Nintendo fans being too smart to be duped by third-parties’ efforts to sell them on the same games that already failed to draw them to other platforms?

"...If developers don’t deliver the kinds of rich play-oriented experiences they crave – and that includes both Nintendo and third parties – they have no problem holding onto their money." (Call of Duty: Black Ops, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, Just Dance 2, Just Dance 3, Just Dance 4, No More Heroes, Skylanders Giants, Skylanders: Spyro's Adventure, Wii U)

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NYC_Gamer  +   558d ago
Nintendo fans don't care about third party software...
legendoflex  +   558d ago | Well said
Sure they do. Where do you think Mega Man came from? How about Final Fantasy? Chrono Trigger? Most of the popular Disney games back in the day? Why do you think so many Nintendo fans were lost during the N64 and GameCube eras, and why do you think PlayStation happened to become so huge at the same time? Why is my avatar for FFXII?

The question is: what did all of those games that people went after have in common that modern third-party games lack? They fit in well with the Nintendo audience.
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chaos-lockheart  +   558d ago
Those fans all went to PlayStation.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   558d ago
Wow good point and kudos for the FFXII avatar.
knowyourstuff  +   557d ago
Most of the time said AAA games are terrible ports that underperform compared to other consoles - see: everything AAA port that has ever been released on Wii U.

Nintendo fans are obviously enjoying much better games than that crappy Call of Duty port, and that other mediocre port of Batman Arkham City.

People buy Nintendo for a reason - they are diehard Nintendo fans. If they wanted AAA games from third parties they would buy a PS3 or 360.
Irishguy95  +   557d ago
Nintendo fans are enjoy 10 games per generation.
kupomogli  +   557d ago
Nintendo fans of the past and Nintendo fans today are not the same. I was a fan of Nintendo back then and I'm still a fan of their consoles today. However to me, Nintendo is nothing more than the second or third console. I'm a fan of video games. Couldn't care less what console it's on.

Nintendo fans of today just don't buy third party. There are a lot of hidden gem lists for the Wii floating around. You know why people make those lists, because those people are usually actual gaming fans that buy more than just Mario, Kirby, Metroid, Smash Bros, Mario Kart, etc. Now there are some Nintendo fans who are console exclusive who do buy more than just Nintendo products, but they're rare. Most Nintendo fans think everything Nintendo releases is gold.

I made mention one time that MonolithSoft was irrelevant to Nintendo fans before they became first party. Go look up sales to Dragon Ball Z Attack of the Saiyans and Super Robot Taisen OG Saga Endless Frontier. Both released in the US and both DS games. They sold very poorly. The Wii game they developed sold even worse. But as soon as MonolithSoft was announced as a first party developer and Nintendo announced Xenoblade, everyone was all over them and they immediately became the best RPG developer to Nintendo fans. It's sad. Truly.
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DA_SHREDDER  +   557d ago
cause i already bought said games on the ps3, im not gonna buy the same game twice especially when I buy one copy, i can game share the other copy to my son's ps3. I'm just waiting on a "real" AAA game to buy, and they are bound to come. The best games are usually released around oct/nov. Oh and trust me, if I can't get my hands on a ps4 this year, I'll be buying watch dogs for the WiiU.
SilentNegotiator  +   557d ago
Nintendo gamers are "too smart" for anything without Mario in it. Hilarious.

Nintendo fanboys' overzealous reaction in wake of the Wii U taking a dive past launch has been rather pathetic. They'll say anything.
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Buff1044  +   557d ago
How quickly some people forget about the NES and SNES days, when third party software on Nintendo systems thrived.

I've been thinking about this...it would seem the decision to go cartridge with the N64 is what shifted the balance of power, and Nintendo (more like third parties) never recovered with GameCube.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   557d ago
Realize that the quality of third party games ported to the Nintendo Consoles is abysmal now compared to what it once was. Do you think any Nintendo fan really gives a shit about a Call of Duty game that came out several months prior? Or how about a Batman game that came out a year ago? They really don't care about those.
bradleejones  +   557d ago
@ buff1044
Exactly right. N64 went cartridge because Nintendo and Sony dropped their partnership building SNES CD. Sony then developed their own machine and so did Nintendo.History.
shutUpAndTakeMyMoney  +   558d ago | Funny
Yeah you here that Rockstar??! We don't want GTA5!!

Lets make a petition to make sure there is no gta5 wiiU port! Whos with me?! Nintendo fans rise up!!
Now is the time!
/s
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CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   558d ago
LOL "Funny"
jon1234  +   558d ago
ha you had me there for a second
a_adji  +   557d ago
I would love GTA on Wii U. I love my wiinu but I also like thee consoles but third parties are maning lazy guts who should not be surprised when they put experimental games (mad world) crap ports and dumb downed versions of games like dead space out there.

A bad game and lazy work will always show.
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nosferatuzodd  +   557d ago
Lol smart one
C0MPUT3R  +   557d ago
Why would a Nintendo fan want GTAV?
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Because they had such great time playing GTA III, VC, San Andraeas & IV on previous Nintendo systems?..Oh wait that never happened.
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Nintendo fans truly live in neverland. And they luv themselves some port begging.
LastXeno  +   558d ago
Nintendo fans were the ones that made MegaMan, Castlevania, Contra, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, etc popular in the first place.
Root  +   558d ago
With FF and MGS they just established them in the gaming industry but the Playstation with Metal Gear Solid and Final Fantasy 7 is what made them more popular then they were
fsfsxii  +   558d ago
Oh really??
I thought that the first Metal Gear game was on the MSX...
TongkatAli  +   558d ago
No, actually all those franchises hit their high points on Playstation, truth ouch : (
Jobesy  +   558d ago | Well said
It wasn't Nintendo fans, it was gaming fans who made those series popular. I've always went with the system that had the most games that appeal to me. Those titles you mention are 3rd party games, and when the 3rd parties moved away from Nintendo, I moved with them, just like so many others. So again, it's gaming fans, not Nintendo fans that made those series what they are. Brand loyalty can kiss my ass.
MegaLagann  +   558d ago
@TongkatAli

Mega Man X6 was the series high point? Excuse me while I vomit. /jk
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Heavenly King  +   558d ago
yeah, and that is why all of those franchises moved to Playstation and beyond.

But left nintendo.
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kupomogli  +   557d ago
@Jobesy

Bubble up because I agree entirely. It wouldn't matter what console those games were on, they'd still be great games. Nintendo didn't make them good games, they just happened to be on a Nintendo console.

By the way. There's a lot of people who don't know how monopolistic of a company Nintendo was back then. Here's some truth behind Nintendo way back then and why a lot of third parties abandoned them when the Playstation started to do well.

Back then, Nintendo had an iron grip on console developers and threatened them that if they were to develop a game on another console they wouldn't allow their games to be published on the NES or SNES. With how well the NES and SNES sold, they were basically saying if you turn your back on us, you're screwed.

You might make an argument, but Capcom games and other developer games are on the Genesis and Sega Master System. Most of them were arcade titles licensed then ported by Sega themselves.

You guys think EA and Activision are bad? I think this practice Nintendo had in the 80s and 90s was worse than anything those two publishers have done to the industry. I still like Nintendo games and Nintendo consoles, as I'm a gaming fan, but I've never had respect for Nintendo after finding out about this during the 32/64bit era and why Nintendo lost most of its third party support.

If it wasn't for Playstation, how well it sold when it released and being a powerful console with disc format, developers may have never had the courage to get out from under Nintendo. It's only for the reason that the Playstation sold well that developers knew they could be profitable elsewhere, and is now the reason why most games are multiconsole since developers aren't forcibly tied down to one specific console.
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MaxXAttaxX  +   557d ago
Gamers
You didn't have to necessarily be a "Nintendo fan" to play those games.

The companies that developed the games were the ones that made the games popular. FF and Metal Gear didn't become the huge success they are today until the PS1.
Moncole  +   558d ago
They dont care about bad ones like CoD because they are smart but want good ones like Rayman Legends.
Baka-akaB  +   557d ago
Let's see if that ends up even being true when they will post Rayman legends' sales number .

I'm of the opinions that bare some exceptions , many nintendo fans dont put their money where their mouth is and stick with the safe and familiar nintendo .

For all the anger about 3rd party support every new nintendo console beyond the snes , and pretense of caring about gameplay and quality moreso than gamers from other platforms , they drop the ball as much , if not more , on many ignored gaming gems .

Mind you the same can be said everywhere , especially for some ps3 fans constantly bragging about exclusives they dont support , but it's a recurring problem imo at nintendo's camp .
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fr0sty  +   558d ago
All the more reason for Nintendo to stop making hardware and start making software for the other consoles. When the only reason people buy your console is to play your exclusive games, there is no reason to be making consoles. More money could be made from allowing those games to be made on other platforms.
kirbyu  +   558d ago
I highly doubt there are any Nintendo-only people who would want that to happen.
coolman229  +   558d ago
That makes no sense.
fr0sty  +   557d ago
I never said the "Nintendo-Only" people would agree, but that does not mean it is not a smart business decision on their end. Could you imagine how many copies the next mario would sell if it were available on all systems? NSMB on everything from your phone, tablet, laptop/PC/steam/etc, handheld, to your console? Nintendo would laugh all the way to the bank. These are game franchises that EVERYONE knows and identifies with, even those who may not own a Nintendo console or even a console at all. N going third party would open those games up to all those people, and sales would skyrocket.

Not looking at this from a gamer perspective, but more from a business perspective.
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Baka-akaB  +   557d ago
For starters you dont know if those people would still be around once they pull a sega . Especially if they start believing the quality of those games will drop once they becomes a multiplatform publisher

Sonic might still be a constant big seller , but it's a far cry from their hardware maker era .
fr0sty  +   557d ago
I think it's silly to assume that Sega stopped making games as good as they used to because they stopped making hardware. You are essentially trying to say that by not focusing on hardware at all, and instead focusing on software only, Nintnedo's software will somehow become lower quality as a result of this extra attention... Or that the innovation we've come to know and love will be affected by the fact that they are no longer limited to working with one device.

Nintendo has never needed it's hardware. Think about it, had they not released Wii, but released Wiimote and Wiimote enabled games instead for the other consoles, they would have likely sold more. Same as Wii U. Release the screen controller with a usb adapter for 360 and PS3, support it with screen-controller enabled games using fan favorite franchises, and profits soar. The last 2 Nintendo consoles have been centered around their input devices. If Nintendo started just making controllers and games to work with those controllers, but did not limit the gamer to what system they owned in order to be able to enjoy that content, Nintendo would enjoy the install base of every console buying it's controllers and games. That, in addition to not having to have anywhere near as much money invested into the R&D and launch of consoles, should lead to far higher profits than they have now.

Just my opinion. I know it's controversial, but the fact that they have focused on the controller for many of their previous consoles (N64, Wii, WiiU, etc. all relied heavily on their controllers to sell the system), and many of their gamer fans admit they buy those consoles for the games rather than the hardware, makes me feel that it would be their best option financially. Put all effort into making those games, developing new franchises, and quit worrying about hardware. Find ways to innovate other hardware with new controllers and games, and enjoy the savings and added profit.
KwietStorm  +   558d ago
He's making a Kanye West joke. Everyone relax.
abzdine  +   558d ago
i buy Nintendo consoles to play Nintendo games and some japanese exclusives, no more no less.
blastcorp64  +   557d ago
I'm with you on that. Japanese developers always start their ideas with a controller in hand first and I feel western devs always start with the graphics engine and just shoehorn bland gameplay into the mix. Platformers and fighters almost always play like crap by western devs compare to Japanese devs
solid_warlord  +   558d ago
Nintendo fans don't like to play masculine games...they prefer to play a game with a princess but unfortunately she is always in another castle.
MEsoJD  +   558d ago
If most Nintendo fans only buy first party why should Nintendo stay in the hardware game? Seems to me that they would make a killing as a third party dev.
Derekvinyard13  +   558d ago
You never know, rockstar makes games for Nintendo now remember manhunt 2
CaitSith  +   557d ago
GTA: Chinatown Wars
Mounce   558d ago | Trolling | show
3-4-5  +   558d ago
The games have to be good to count.
kayoss  +   558d ago
Let nintendo fans keep telling themselves that. I was once a die hard fan.. But no 3rd parties games then I'm moving on.
quantae06  +   557d ago
@NYC_Gamer That's a lie! Because I know a lot of Nintendo gamers asking for 3rd party software, so they won't have to buy 2 consoles. But if developers are going to give us crappy ports with missing features why should we buy them. Give me a good port & I'll buy it. I buy both 1st & 3rd party games on my Wii U. I also own a PS3, and it's actually more for exclusives. But if I can get a 3rd party game that's not on the Wii U I'll get it on my PS3, or a port without features on Wii U then I'll have to be forced to buy the 3rd party game on PS3. On an end note.. GTA V is a must buy and I would absolutely love it on the Wii U.
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corrus  +   557d ago
Yes they care only for Mario and Zelda
blastcorp64  +   557d ago
Personally, as a Nintendo gamer the only third party games I've bought over the years are mostly capcom games and sometimes namco or konami. There are a few oddball games from treasure or other exclusives that I've picked up but at least 80% of the games I've bought are Nintendo produced or published so you are right to some extent. I think on the Japanese front Nintendo does have quite a bit of third party support and I will welcome platinum games (wonderful 101) with open arms. I just don't really care for games like batman, assassins creed or COD and I've played all of them albeit briefly on my brothers Xbox but they just don't have a strong hook to them.
linkenski  +   557d ago
I'm a nintendo fan and i care about it alot, but of course i wouldn't buy a game like Mass Effect 3, when i can already play it along with the other two titles in the franchise, on my PC or PS3.

I think the bad sales are due to guys like me, and as the article says, because there are single-console owners that just weren't interested in third party titles.
_QQ_  +   557d ago
you are right, as a nintendo fan i don't care about third parties on the wiiu, but as a sony fan i also don't care about third parties on ps3/ps4, i have my pc to play the superior version of third party games, a console is only as good as its exclusives, and nintendo delivers the strongest exclusives. especially now that Kojima and insomniac has gone third party.
TbreakingP  +   558d ago
Very good as an opinion piece.
animegamingnerd  +   558d ago
why 3rd party games on the wii u failed is that they are being sent out to die cause the ports a rushed and they have been on other systems are a while and don't even get me start on why EA games failed on the wii u madden and fifa were missing features and mass effect 3 on the wii u came out just a couple weeks after the trilogy came out on the other platforms but zombiu was one the best selling games at launch and i imagine monster hunter will sale decently
UnHoly_One  +   558d ago
Punctuation.

It's fun, you should try it sometime.
animegamingnerd  +   558d ago
LOL i am know a bad abit of mine's
UnHoly_One  +   557d ago
lol, what?
kayoss  +   558d ago
I swear to Nintendo, I understood everything you just wrote. O_o
animegamingnerd  +   558d ago
god damn someone actually did i am impressed
smashcrashbash  +   558d ago
Well that is one way to spin it.Just sounds like another excuse to me.So what was the explanation for them not buying the third party games that were exclusive to their Wii like Madworld,No More Heroes, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Red Steel and Conduit? Were they too 'smart' for those too?
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legendoflex  +   558d ago
Do you really think any of those games were ever "huge seller" material? Maybe Red Steel... but notice that games like No More Heroes didn't do too well even on other platforms (<0.25m on PS3, IIRC, vs. ~0.5m on Wii)

Meanwhile, games that ARE good fits for Wii like RE4: Wii Edition and Okami appear to have sold above expectations despite being old ports.
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smashcrashbash  +   558d ago
They weren't huge sellers because Wii owners didn't buy them. I mean really did anyone really honestly think that Black Ops was going to sell well on the Wii U? Since when do Nintendo fans rush for anything as much as they do the Nintendo staples? It has nothing to do with being smart.It's just how modern Nintendo fans are.It's the same reason why Rayman isn't exclusive on the Wii U and why Bayonetta 2 isn't going to break the bank on it.Compared to the sales of a new Zelda, Pokemon and Mario game they don't have a chance.And Okami didn't exactly break the bank either. Why? Because it wasn't Zelda.
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just-joe  +   558d ago
No More Heroes is Suda 51's greatest hit and still his best selling "single"(not counting other platforms sells) game to date.

Madworld, made a profit, it just wasn't immediate. It sold a lot over time and so did Red Steel 2. It also made a profit in the end.

The Conduit is the only game on your list that didn't do well on the Wii and it was far from mature or good.

Wii games only needed around 200-300k to make a profit because they cost no where near as much to make as 360/PS3 games which were a failure if they didn't break 1 mil.

Get your facts straight.
lilbroRx  +   558d ago
What are you talking about with No More Heroes didn't do to well? That game is Grasshopper Manufacturer's best selling single game(not counting other platform sells) ever.

On the other hands, Shadows of the Damned flopped heavily on the PS3/360 in comparison.

Comparing numbers without context tells a very twisted story.
brettyd  +   558d ago
Yea thats it too "smart"
pennywhyz  +   558d ago
Alot of those games started on nintendo mega man was 1987 only on nintendo so some not all were exclusive to nintendo at one point.
LastXeno  +   558d ago
I never said the first MG was never on MSX... Was it as popular on that system than on NES?
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Skips  +   558d ago
Maybe not, but there is no denying that MGS and FF were WAAAAAAAAAAAAY more popular on Playstation platforms than any Nintendo system breh.
Panthers  +   557d ago
Im pretty sure about 90% of the people that played MGS when it came out thought it was the first in the series. I know I did.

It would have been the same with Final Fantasy 7 if it werent for the 7 in the title.

I play a lot of games as a kid, but I had never heard of either of these franchises until PlayStation.
Qrphe  +   558d ago
It's hard to tell since there are no third-party games to buy at the moment to begin with.
GreenRanger  +   558d ago
"most gamers (believe it or not) are actually single-console gamers."
Unless someone can prove that to me, i find it very hard to believe.
legendoflex  +   558d ago
The linked article (that quote is actually a link in the article) cites a 2012 study. Multi-platform owners were at 17% in 2009, 24% in 2011.
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GreenRanger  +   558d ago
OK, you proved it to me.
KwietStorm  +   558d ago
Why would it be hard to believe that *most* people have one system? A lot of people only rent or buy used games. Why would it be surprising that they don't or can't own multiple platforms?
truechainz  +   558d ago
I have a different article that says 49% of households have gaming console and they averaged at least 2 consoles. Also looking that link from the article it looks like it is saying 17% play on one type of device (console,pc, mobile) rather than specifying if they actually play on one console. So agree to disagree on that based on data.

http://www.polygon.com/2012...

The main reason I would not be surprised to find that most people are single console is because people are constantly back and forth about why their console is better. Though I have always assumed it was a vocal minority, and most people who do have multiple consoles aren't on here because they are having too much fun with their mass selection of games to really give a crap.
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RespectedDesperado  +   558d ago
Oh so like all those Wii owners are to smart to run out and buy the Wii U.
legendoflex  +   558d ago
Exactly? Even Nintendo has sucked at making good games for the Nintendo audience on Wii U.
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CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   558d ago
@ ALEX PLANT (the Author)

Good read- not because of the Butter-Up...

BUT
because you brought something different to the gaming dialogue.
fatstarr  +   558d ago
seems like hes read some of my n4g comments and done some extra research to prove my points true. we arent suckers.
Hicken  +   558d ago
You say you're not suckers, but when I look at ignored gems like Fragile Dreams, I wonder as to the veracity of that statement.
TechnicianTed  +   557d ago
I'd never heard of Fragile Dreams until I saw your post. Now metacritic isn't the be all and end all when it comes to games, but it does have a 67 rating, which tells me it's not something that wowed too many people.

Maybe that's why I never heard of it.
jonboi24  +   558d ago
Though who seriously buys a Nintendo console now a days for third party gamed. There's only 3 reason most core gamers get it: 1) Mario, 2) Zelda , 3)Smash Bros. Everything else is just icing on a cake.
BitbyDeath  +   558d ago
Might as well cancel all future Monster Hunter games then...
cervantes99  +   558d ago
That's OK. Nintendo Fans won't get much anyway :)
MoveTheGlow  +   558d ago
The article makes some good points. Nintendo had a lot of help on their earlier consoles from companies who wanted to do *new* things. For years! Square and Enix separately explored just about everything you could do with an RPG on the SNES, for instance! Now, graphics/art budgets are insane due to the demand placed on high-poly AAA games, and companies know it's a risk to make something. Too big of a risk. They do things like target demographic groups and give them what they think they want. That spark, that creativity, it no longer thrives in the halls of Capcom, Activision, EA, Ubisoft, any of them. Even Ancel's making Rayman annualized sequels at this point.

But there are some great examples of the opposite. Demon's Souls was a third party game, for instance - Sony just agreed to publish it in a region or two before Atlus scooped it up. Dark Souls is my favorite game on any current-gen console, one of my "of all times." To me, it's the Megaman 2 and 3 of this generation - a huge improvement on a game which took a lot of risks.

This market isn't ready for a new generation of consoles, methinks. But the indie developers are ready for easier-to-use engines, cheap distribution methods, and fair business models outside of those AAA companies' doors. Before long, we're going to be launch headlong into much bigger games from auteurs. I think it may be nice.
1nsomniac  +   558d ago
The fact the title itself doesn't even makes sense, makes me think the article isn't worth a read either...
thief  +   558d ago
And 3rd party studios are too smart to develop games for Nintendo, so its win-win.

Nintendo "gamers" I know 1. Those who never actually use it and let it colect dust for years 2. Parents who bought the cheapest possible console for young kids who can play nothing better than wave your arms around or Mario.

So, that rules out typical 3rd party genres such as mature single-player games (survival horror, adventure, or fighting games) or immersive online shooters, or realistic racing games. All that is left, which a Nintendo "gamer" might be interested is the same old Zelda and Mario.
coolman229  +   558d ago
Thank you for insulting Wii gamers. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
laoboy_Smoke  +   558d ago
I wish Nintendo didn't go all casual in the first place..Playstation will always be my first choice (cause their exclusive games appeal more to me) but I will always respect Nintendo for helping this Hobby i love grow in to this juggernaut of an indusry it is today.
Ddouble  +   558d ago
"The problem is that the third parties of today aren’t correctly responding to the needs and wants of Nintendo’s market. They incorrectly measured Wii’s success as being owed to “casual gamers,” and that those “casual gamers” can only play easy games that don’t use buttons. That is, they assumed that “casuals” are dumb and so the games they present to casuals should also be dumb"

I think it goes deeper than that because even non casual games still don't do as well as on other consoles. Lets look at prime example.
Tales of graces sold 143k first week in Japan on the Wii and at that point there were 10 million wii's in Japan compared to around 5 million PS3's.

The following year Tales of Graces f was released on the PS3 and it sold 215K first week.

Same game but the PS3 version had some extras. It wasn't a casual or dumbed down game. It was a proper JRPG and it sold a lot less even though the wii's userbase was almost twice of the PS3's at the time.

Look at the Xenoblade, a first party title that many claim to be the best RPG of the gen and that only sold 160K in Japan which is a fraction of what a Mario game will sell.

The 360 and PS3 have established themselves as the home for 3rd party tiles while Nintendo have established their console as the Mario, Zelda, Metroid etc.. machine which is why third party and even some of their first party titles struggle.

What they need to do in my opinion is use the positive reception from the X game and promote it hard and show they can do more than just Mario and co. I hear so many fans saying they can't wait for the next smash or mario kart or Zelda. It's just becoming too predictable.

There's also the disadvantage of less power but that's another argument
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tweet75  +   558d ago
give me a series of AAA third party titles exclusive to wii and I will buy them. I will not buy games at full price I bought months or a year before on another console just for a few extra features.
danitanzo  +   558d ago
What?... I'll buy good third party software... I bought zombiu and enjoyed it. Of course, that may not be AAA title...
AKR  +   558d ago
Well this is generalization to the max.
I AM interested in third-party games. A number of up-coming Wii U games that I have on my radar are third-party.

I'm a one-console gamer because my game life revolves around what my parents are willing to spend and when they are willing to spend it. Later down the line, hopefully I'll accquire a PS4 or 720, which ever one I'm most interested in - but certainly not as quickly as I got my Wii U. Simply because I know my dad won't throw down another $400-$500 in such a short space of time, for a game console.

And even for gamers who aren't in the same parent-based boat, their wallets probably aren't so healthy either. Gaming is a lot to invest in. With such a lousy economy, it's harder than ever.
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GraveLord  +   558d ago
No. I think the stupid ones are the ones buying a Wii U and expecting 3rd party support. It's not going to happen.
ziggurcat  +   558d ago
or... maybe they're not single console gamers, and have already played the AAA third-party games on their other consoles.
azshorty2003  +   558d ago
Nintendo fans may have made many franchises big, but they haven't treated 3rd party exclusives very well and vice verse for a long time. Its the reason why developers don't take Nintendo consoles seriously and make for them.

That ship sailed years ago and it's not an argument point anymore. Final Fantasy went to Playstation, the Blue Bomber had 2 releases but for all consoles, Metal Gear Solid is on every system Except Nintendo HOME consoles.

When Nintendo releases a console, the discussion basically goes as followed: When will we see Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Star Fox, etc? And most Nintendo fans are ok with that, but that's why I didn't even give 2 looks at the WiiU.
millzy102  +   557d ago
metal gear solid on gamecube says hello, ok it was 9 years ago but you made it sound like nintendo have never had metal gear solid, also people forget that nintendo has the 3ds with more 3rd party support than vita, nintendo is more than just wii. i buy third party on nintendo i didnt get ac3 or cod on my ps3 coz i got it on wii u, also watch dogs im getting on wii u even though im getting a ps4 on launch, infamous is only ps4 game im currently interested in.
scissor_runner  +   558d ago
The industry is a little silly. We have been watching these ports for a while. It is true they where not even fun enough to warrent a Xbox or ps purchase.

EA is killing there own franchises on purpose to hurt nintendo for not making them another 3do.

It's going to be curious to see if graphics or game play sells games after E3.

Lots of people are waiting to buy a wiiu since they want to see what ms and Sony are offering. Many may wait of the other systems to become affordable. Who knows, yet game play sells on Nintendo consoles.

Nintendo gamers like games like gradius, tmnt arcade, secret of mana, chrono trigger, killer instinct, master blaster, ff3, ng3, great side scrollers with action like battle toads! With a twist like using today's technology.

The problem is the current youth of gaming wants 3d free roaming story based gaming. None of that insures fun yet costs lots of money to make. This thinking killed sega and it's killing other 3rd parties now.

Plus visual hype does not sell to an older crowd aka Nintendo gamers who owned a Nes and problably have a nice pc setup.
Gr81  +   557d ago
On the
Money as always Scissor. Hope alls well buddy.
Dgamer  +   558d ago
Personally i hope 3rd parties stop making excuses and start making games. Don't half ass on the Nintendo consoles and then say, "Oh, look Nintendo users don't like a or b, they like C. BS, As a consumer and gamer, I like good games, period. Not old ports, watered down ports or imitationNintendo games. I buy good games.
lema008  +   558d ago
Good article but I think your logic isn't base on sound judgement. This article gives the impression Nintendo fans are too smart for everyone else and have an elitist attitude. Everyone wants good quality games.

What's the sales number of N64's or Gamecube console. That to me would be a good indicator of about how many hardcore Nintendo fans there really are out there or maybe less.

Look at the sales of the WII U and it launch with Nintendo land and New Super Mario Bros.

The fact is the real reason majority of gamers are draw to a console can be for a lot of different reasons. There's 1st and 3rd party support, innovation of the console,the "Hot" item to have, price, brand royalty, family friendly games, etc.
These other gamers are really the ones that decide who's console or all three of them, are going to be hugely successful or not.
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RFornillos4  +   558d ago
in all honesty, the only reason i didn't buy many 3rd party games for the Wii was not because i was too "smart" to get them, but there just weren't that many for the Wii that were not shovelware. yes, it's me a nintendo fan, and I admit that Wii had plenty of shovelwares.

however I can't say otherwise for their other platforms coz I equally enjoyed 3rd party softwares from the NES to the GameCube (in fact, I have more 3rd party software for them compared to 1st party). it was only the Wii when most AAA 3rd party games didn't come for it.

so frankly, I just hope that more 3rd parties will come to the Wii U. coz I do know that most Nintendo fans are simply waiting for the 3rd parties to support the Wii U. and most nintendo gamers are also multiplatform gamers who knows how to appreciate what each console can offer, instead of joining the pissing contest.
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