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Rumor: Sony to Ship 16 Million PlayStation 4 Units in 2013

According to DigiTimes, Sony anticipates that PlayStation 4 will reach annual shipments of 16 million units in 2013. If true, this would make it the largest launch of any console. (PS4)

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DarkBlood  +   414d ago
thats a large launch? i got to say im suprised i first thought it was comparably small, but if this is worldwide then im not so certain about this number

i better preorder immediatly after i find out the price
fabod86  +   414d ago
Are you kidding right? XD
16 million shipments at launch, if true, it's simply HUGE...
jujubee88  +   414d ago
Oh yeah?
Well, I am still pre-ordering. And I will be there at launch day, waiting in line!

Camp-time come holiday 2013! Wooohoooo!!! :D
ArmGunar  +   414d ago
That's a good news !!

It means, the PS4 will release in Europe too fall 2013, yeah :P
RememberThe357  +   414d ago
Yeah, thats double the best case scenario for a half years (two fiscal quarters) worth of system sales. And nothing in the article really supports the 16 million unit number. They have new markets in South America, Asia, and Africa, but these numbers are huge.

This is either bullshit, which it probably is, or Sony is gearing up to take the throne. By force.
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TheTwelve  +   414d ago
One of those PS4s has my name on it....
iGamerZero24  +   414d ago
And one of them has my name on it ! Can
Not wait till launch day
mistertwoturbo  +   414d ago
Most of my friends are planning to buy one on release day.

So I'm getting three.
Might be true. Sony going hard lately.

Plus how hard is it to build a pc?
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aGameDeveloper  +   414d ago
Yeah, it is quite large - not to mention possibly overly-optimistic - especially considering Sony will only have about 4 months to ship that many, and it usually takes a year before sales really start taking off.
Saigon  +   414d ago
All,

We have to remember that sony fiscal year is different than the standard year. Their year ends in March 2014, so this number doe sound reasonable.
Good_news_every1   413d ago | Spam
WiiUsauce  +   413d ago
they might ship 16 million, but they'll only sell around 3-5 million by the end of the year. there is no way they're going to sell 16 million in the second half of this year. There's only about 5 million Sony drones out there anyway, so they'll sell to the drones for sure.
BISHOP-BRASIL  +   413d ago
Dan Holmes literally have part of his name in one of those.
miyamoto  +   413d ago
This

http://palmettopublicrecord...

Does this mean PS4 will be very affordable?
PC parts are dirt cheap in Taiwan and China because they are not niche components.

Have you guys see a grown man cry because of excitement?
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Ares84HU  +   413d ago
It is a large number considering the fact that it will only be released officially this year in Japan and the US. I will preorder it and pay in full probably through amazon. There is no way in hell that I'm going to stand in line like when the PS3 came out. One of the worst experiences in my life. I've never seen people sink so low in my life than what I've seen there.
8GB_DDR3   413d ago | Spam
subtenko  +   413d ago
It's Over 9000 aawrhhhhh! :D

Day 1 preorder.
KrisButtar  +   414d ago
I am thinking it is large. comparing even comparing it to the Wii U, with its launch, these PS4 numbers are way higher
Ju  +   414d ago
For reference. Current gen consoles launched with <10M and reached 10-13 in a full calendar year. I could imagine there will be high demand. But 16 is too high, unless this is a quote for a whole year, not just launch. Not sure why'd bind so much capital, though. Maybe to get better rates on components??
DeadlyFire  +   413d ago
16 million in how many months and possibly two regions? WTF are you guys smoking. I want some of it.

On average a console sells less than 2 million in first 3 months. Now if you guys are talking about from 2013 launch until 2014 launch date(1 full calender year). Then yes 16 Million is possible, but even so its a little higher than I expected. As PS3 and X360 in one year sold 10.x Million. So I was expecting 12-13 million possibly in one full year.
KrisButtar  +   413d ago
@ Ju, better rates on components makes a lot of sense, and maybe thats why its being done, to pass the savings on to us, so theres no big price tag

@ deadlyfire, i think the ps4 is going to have a world wide launch, not staggered like the ps3 launch. still those numbers are high, maybe ordering that many in bulk grabs a high discount?
BlackTar187  +   413d ago
Deadly fire,

You also have to relize that that may be how many are sold but at least in California finding one of those systems is pretty hard and requires waiting in lines to get. The Supply is way under demand on almost every console at launch by ahuge margin. Im not quite sure why no one has brought that up yet. in cali it took months for us to get a wii and took about a month to get a PS3 after waiting in line at Bestbuy with like 100 other people where they only had 5 for sale.
DarkBlood  +   414d ago
well no im not kidding, this could just be a number for united states i have no idea if canada or anywhere else is a part of this launch and if so would have to be split up. So to the best of my knowledge that doesnt sound like a alot to me if thats the case
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Cupid_Viper_3  +   414d ago
"So to the best of my knowledge that doesnt sound like a alot to me if thats the case"

Clearly the "Best of your knowledge" is not much and highly out of line with reality. The PS2 at the peak of its selling powers was shipping between 16-20 million units a year worlwide. Educate yourself, then speak "to the best of your knowledge".
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DarkBlood  +   414d ago
relax sir, not like i was trying to pull a "mika" here or anything.
KwietStorm  +   414d ago
Console manufacturers hope to push those numbers in a whole year. How could 16 mil this year, When it launches this holiday, Not be a big deal?
mandf  +   414d ago
9 will be sold to my family. We played video games growing up with no cable.
flyingmunky  +   414d ago
That's the best way to grow up!
Who needs cable tv anyway?
mandf  +   414d ago
Yeah it sucked being poor. My uncle bought me an Atari and I never went back to tv.
AngelicIceDiamond  +   414d ago
Sony's confident not cocky. That's a ton of shipements that may not pay off. I think this is false.
Cupid_Viper_3  +   414d ago
You don't foresee the PS4 selling 16 million consoles? I'm struggling to understand your logic here, please explain.
HammadTheBeast  +   414d ago
They were going to be made anyways....
AngelicIceDiamond  +   413d ago
I was just saying Sony needs to be careful. I can see Sony Selling 16 mill, eventually. I understand they want to go hard but what if Something happens like they're not selling as good as they were hoping.

I'm not saying they won't sale well or have a tough launch but 8 or 9 mill is a safe bet.
akaakaaka  +   414d ago
Yes please!! Sony.. I want to get mine without a problem or having to wait..
and I have a feeling that even then it will be very hard to get one on the first month..
Crazyglues  +   414d ago
I think people are missing the bigger picture...

If SONY is confident they can sell 16 million units in 2013 then I think that also points to a reasonable price point on PS4 - it won't go over $600

To sell that many units you have to be priced just right and I think we could see a price between $529 & $599 or maybe even lower.. (but it will not be over 600)

16 million is huge, even the iPhone 5 had like 9 million units at launch and sold 5 million in 3 days.. So this is possible but the price has to be right in-order to do those kind of numbers..

I think it's a safe bet that the system will not go over 600 (So you can start saving now with 600 as your target- then add 150+ tax because you know your going to need some games at launch)

Mine will be -(Day-One buys)

DriveClub
Killzone
Watch Dogs

-OMG- how could I forget-

Battlefield 4
Assassin Creed IV

Guess that 150 is going to have to be +250

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Conzul  +   414d ago
U no liek inFamous? :(
KwietStorm  +   414d ago
Why would you even suggest *over* 600? Of course it won't go over, but 599 would be the same thing all over again, and they won't meet expectations at that price. That's why even your low ball seems high.
kevnb  +   414d ago
i think $500 would be too much for those kind of numbers. if its $250-$300 maybe. But i cant see it being that cheap.
Ju  +   414d ago
Those number would actually suggest <400 entry price. 250-300 is too low, but 600 is too hight. My guess is around 400.
Crazyglues  +   414d ago
@ Conzul

OMG! how could I leave out Infamous - ok change that to about +350 because infamous is of course a day one buy

Looks like a safe bet is just have a $1000 ready for launch system + Games

@ KwietStorm

that's a good point, it's the GDDR5 ram -that's expensive so I was thinking we could get over, but now I'm thinking 5 something.. -Trust me I want it lower too but I was just thinking based off the specs and playing it safe..

@ kevnb

I agree, but how much lower can it really go, under 500 and SONY could be taking a real lost on each unit..remember PS3 launched at $599 and to do 16 million units is a lot to be taking a lost on..
I think if it comes in under 500 it's flying off the self. No question. But-250-300 is just too unrealistic, I'm sorry but look how long it too PS3 to get to that price point.. PS4 won't launch that low.
na2ru1  +   413d ago
It wir serr fo FOOO HUNDUDAN FIFTI.......DORRARS.
Just my imagination literally.
ceballos77mx  +   413d ago
400-450 would be the sweet spot for me.
dafegamer  +   414d ago
omg i nearly crushed my skull, while facepalming
dboyc310  +   414d ago
I highly doubt it. Though it will be good that number is just too high for a launch. If true then Sony is hiding a lot of things seeing how they have a lot of confiden in the ps4. True or not though I'm going to pre-order mine as soon as its available. Have a feeling they're going to sky rocket off retails quickly.
stuna1  +   414d ago
This may very well be the hint we've been waiting on as far as the PS4 affordability.
MysticStrummer  +   413d ago
That's what I was thinking. If they launch in all the biggest territories simultaneously at a low enough price, the 16 million number might make sense.

But, it's probably just wrong.
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ceballos77mx  +   413d ago
And also a launch window.
fr0sty  +   413d ago
I know where 4 of them will be...

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donman1  +   413d ago
If true... Sony making sure all the mistakes they made this current gen (last to launch, too expensive and difficult to develop for) does not happen for their next gen console. This means I expect their price to be $400 - $450.
Chaostar  +   414d ago
That's fairly ambitious, can they even manufacture that many in time? If so, what's stopping them from releasing world wide at the end of the year?
mandf  +   414d ago
This probably a made up rumor. Release worldwide is hard for any console to do because of localization of games. Usually the games just aren't ready in time for some territories.
bicfitness  +   414d ago
That number seems crazy inflated. They would have to launch in September and sell 2.5 million to 3 million each month until the end of Fiscal Year 2013 (March 2014). I don't think that this information is correct. Maybe its 16 million in the first calendar year. But even that seems like a lot.
flyingmunky  +   414d ago
I certainly wouldn't begrudge a September launch, be nice not to have to deal with the Xmas rush while trying to get my console and accessories.
jetlian  +   413d ago
1st they wont have 16 million made by then. 2nd sony fiscal year (2013) ends in march 2013. So this article is talking about calender 2013 which gives them 3 months time.

So 5.3 million a month isnt happening. maybe 1.6 million depending on when it comes out
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shikamaroooo  +   414d ago
It is a Rumour.
Tei777  +   414d ago
It is a lie.

The ps4 is not shipping 16m units between its "holiday 2013 release" and december 31st. Unless they don't intend to replenish stock for the whole of 2014, which obviously is not the case lol
Deelow  +   414d ago
Either way Sony may be just ensuring they have consoles on the shelf for Christmas. I remember having a hard time getting a PS3.
legendoflex  +   414d ago
I'd hate to be president of SCE next year.
HammadTheBeast  +   414d ago
You don't like swimming in cash while playing every single Sony made game before anyone else on the PS4?
Hicken  +   414d ago
Nah. It's just that then he couldn't troll Sony the way he does now.
ceballos77mx  +   413d ago
On a 4k TV and gold plated ps4 and remote.
STK026  +   414d ago
Highly unlikely. The PS4 will likely launch in the last few months of 2013, say october or november. Sony has so far confirmed that it would launch in (at least) one country/region this year. If it launches exclusively in Japan, there's no way it sells 16 million units in 2-3 months. Even in NA, this number would seem highly unlikely. As a matter of fact, a wordlwide launch would probably not get these sales.

You also have to add the fact that MS is also likely to ship its console late this year, which would mean a fierce competition in NA.

By digging up some old articles, it seems that bot the PS3 and the X360 sold about 5.5 million units each in their respective first 12 months on the market. Which leads me to believe 16 million units in 3 months is probably not happening.
Ju  +   414d ago
I agree. These numbers are too high. But two things to consider. This might be FY13 which ends 1Q14 (March) for Sony (?). And I would guess 80% of a yearly quota is sold around the holiday season. This order could stretch out into 2014 (beyond FY13). But if they'd sell those until mid 2014 this would already be record numbers, IMO. I guess their market research team must have gotten carried away, huh? But then...it's on the internet. It must be true.
abzdine  +   414d ago
i dont care i just want mine!!!
TemplarDante  +   414d ago
Oh Yeah :)
1 of those is mine :)
One of them is my bros :)
And about 10 of them are for my mates :)

This gen, Sony will retake the market, PS2 style.
Qrphe  +   414d ago
I doubt it'll even meet whatever their expectations are anyway with the way the market is atm.
GraveLord  +   414d ago
They're combining PS3 and PS4. There is simply no way PS4 can ship 16million units this year, no matter how good the launch is, it will never sell anywhere close to that.
BitbyDeath  +   414d ago
The only way Sony could have these sorts of expectations is if-

1. It will be a worldwide release
2. PS4 will be quite cheap
Tei777  +   414d ago
still zero chance of that happening. Video game consoles simply do not sell at that rate.
mistertwoturbo  +   414d ago
It might just be a strategy. They are going to saturate the living daylights on the market and perhaps put advertisements everywhere. It worked for Microsoft.
kingmushroom  +   414d ago
One of the 16mill Ps4 has my name on it !
maniacmayhem  +   414d ago
The price? That's what I want to know.
vega275  +   413d ago
Unless they are selling them for $200-$300 a pop its not going to happen. I forsee sony not shipping that amount and changing their forcast cause they couldnt move that amount.
fOrlOnhOpe57  +   414d ago
And if true , Europe won't be a part of that figure. It takes God knows how long for Sony to tease apart the individual European languages - hence, we're always last in line. Sucks :( 2014 release for us.
clintagious650  +   414d ago
I dont think its true but i also believe if sony did ship that many, they can sell them all pretty fast if the price is right. Ppl said the ps3 would NEVER catch the 360 after the year late launch of the ps3 & look where the ps3 is now. Ps3 will eventually catch the wii aswell when the price drops to $199 and surpass it in a few years.
GribbleGrunger  +   414d ago
It indicates that they're confident if true. It also suggests (if true) that the PS4 is going to be cheaper than we think.
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Oner  +   414d ago
Took the words right from my fingers GG.
MikeMyers  +   414d ago
They won't even be able to manufacture 16 million systems by the end of 2013. They might have a goal of 16 million in the first year but not by the end of 2013.
GribbleGrunger  +   414d ago
Yeah, I reckon it could be PS3/PS4 shipments
MikeMyers  +   414d ago
I don't think we will see more than 4 million PS4's made by the end of 2013. I expect sell-outs and it will be a hot item. So that would mean upwards of 12 million PS3's sold? Possible but not likely.
ThaBlackBaron  +   414d ago
LOL why? thats are crazy high number and most likely impossible to do...plus they wont sell anywhere near that Number lol
DFresh  +   414d ago
I'm going to wait until next year to get PS4.
I know trying to get my hands on one this year isn't gonna happen or be easy.
More then willing to wait it out.
gpturbo81  +   414d ago
you'll have no problem finding one. they'll be as available, if not more available than wii u.
zoks310  +   414d ago
Sounds like a worldwide launch. Great news for everybody, no staggered ps3 launch.
gpturbo81  +   414d ago
16 million shipments doesn't mean 16 million sales.
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Tei777  +   414d ago
But shipments are proportional to expected sales. If they ship 16m, they expect to sell near that amount within the given period.
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BitbyDeath  +   414d ago
Sony sell the consoles and ship them to your local EB, Best Buy etc.
So it does mean sales for Sony.
No company can measure sales to consumers, it is nigh impossible.
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Arai  +   414d ago
Most likely 16 million in 2013 was taken out of context.
But looking at the website they might be on to something.
Notice the "Taiwan" stuff on the right side, Foxxcon & Pegatron are Taiwanese companies.
So they might have insider info, Digitimes is also a well known site.

I really hope for a 2013 European release also, PS3 launch made us wait almost 6 months compared to JP/US intitial release.
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WooHooAlex  +   414d ago
A launch that big could literally cost 6 or 7 billion dollars. I highly doubt Sony is going to spend that much to overship the PS4. I think they'll stick with the standard 1-2 million per market.

EDIT: After reading the article, it says that's the total amount planned for 2013, if they're launching worldwide this year, that isn't unreasonable at all.
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GreenRanger  +   414d ago
Sony won't ship that many at launch.
There is too much of a risk of launch models being faulty to ship that many.
BitbyDeath  +   414d ago
Good point.
Npugz7  +   414d ago
I'll take one of those thank you!!
MasterCornholio  +   414d ago
How will this even be possible?

Just look at the Wii U which sold only 3 million units over the holidays. How is the PS4 going to sell 16 million units over the span of a few months? As much as i would love for this to be true i honestly dont think it will happen.

http://www.gamespot.com/new...

" company expects to sell 5.5 million Wii U units by April."

Edit: Another point if Sony is expecting to sell 16 million units at launch that probably means that the console will be reasonably priced. Heck it could even be 400€ which is fantastic for me.
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joeorc  +   413d ago
will it be 16 million, i doubt it but
i do think this is talking about ps3+ps4 2013 total shipments for fiscal year ending in march 2014

IE: sony's fiscal year

now since

The ps4 chipset is a very powerful "mobile" chipset adapted for a living room console!

example

http://www.pcworld.com/arti...

MAY INFACT MEAN THAT THE ps4 is very cheap to production of a system with the price of Tablet computing being cheaper. this could very well price in market for production for AMD like Nvidia does TEGRA!

if that is indeed the case which AMD will be selling the PS4 SOC to the market. where is those chips going?

if they are going into mobile devices the ps4 to market may be quite lower than many are thinking it to be.

we could be seeing a $299.00 th $349.00 retail price for the PS4!!! AT THAT PRICE 16 MILLION for the fiscal 2013 ending march 31 2014 may not be too far fetched. esp. if the ps4's hardware is mainly a mobile chipset modded to console living room space/
seanpitt23  +   414d ago
They will not be able to make that many ps4 in that time frame
PimpDaddy  +   414d ago
I don't see any way possible for Sony to sell 16 million PS4 consoles in it's first year of launch.

1.) Price Point. Even if the console launches at $299.00 which I don't believe for a second that is a lot of consoles to sell in a year for a new product.

2.) Demand. Who is going to rush out and buy the PS4 in the first year besides those of us, myself included that like to jump right in to the next generation of gaming? The 360 and PS3 aren't even selling 16 million consoles a year and they are cheaper and have a much larger catalog of games.

3.) Manufacturing. What makes any of us think that Sony is capable of manufacturing 16 million PS4 consoles in 1 year? It takes time to ramp up production and Sony doesn't even have the actual casing finalized and has themselves said the specs are not officially finalized.

I could see 8-10 million consoles sold in the first year if the price stats at $399.00 though...
Bar_Brothers  +   414d ago
LOL
LOOOOOOOOOOL
DiRtY  +   413d ago
my thoughts exactly. You can quote me on that:

NO way in hell will sony ship 16 million PS4s in 2013.
For example the PS3 had 2 million consoles available in its release-year in 2006.

http://www.mtv.com/news/art...

Kinect was a huge success (eventhough you guys still try to deny it) and it sold 8 million in its release-year. Both launched in Q4.

http://www.joystiq.com/2011...
ps3_pwns  +   414d ago
im getting it day one. and so are my friends. no need to hold of on a sure thing purchase like a ps4, gamers love it, devs love it, and games love it. this is where everyone is gonna be online quite simply a sure thing.
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