GRID 2's Cockpit Cam Removed to Appease Console Owners

GamerZines writes:

In an exclusive interview inside this month’s issue of FirstLook Magazine, GRID 2′s senior producer Vincent Meulle has confirmed that the reason cockpit view isn’t featured in the sequel is purely down to technological constraints associated with the current generation of consoles.

[Kratos_Kills]

Well solve your constraints from current consoles and bring it to next gen.

[KumaKreations]

Might as well or do both.

[Diver]

"Appease console owners"? Was there an online petition to get it pulled?

Seriously just a trash headline dude. I want cockpit views on console an if you can't engineer it on current consoles you're a dud dev.

[Larry L]

In racing this would be called Race Car Driver's Excuses. In this case, it's Developer's Excuses. So they're trying to tell me that SMS a small studio, making Project Cars which is a 50% publicly funded game with a total budget of around $7 million dollars can make a game that looks amazing and has interiors even better than GT5's, extremely good physics and A.I. and dynamic EVERYTHING....and we KNOW it's running on PS3, but Grid2's developers "just can't". PLEASE

And it's not like Grid's racing experience is any good in the first place. I am a racing fan above all other genres, have been since before even the NES days. I've played them all (exaggeration, but more than most), and GRID is damn near the #1 worst automobile racing game of all time as far as I'm concerned. I don't know what those "cars" are supposed to be handling like in GRID, but it CERTAINLY isn't any kind of 4 wheeled vehicle in this reality.

To me the physics in GRID are quite obviously the PERFECT physics for riding a huge inner-tube down a 90 degree snow slope, and then they just skinned over their awesome snow tubing sim with car racing.

When it comes to physics and handling, which are the most imprtant thing in racing games, especially "realistic" racing games which GRID is trying to be, GRID 1 was an absolute joke, and I don't feel like I'm exaggerating when I say it's the worst racing game ever made. I literally CRINGE every single time I see people on forums and boards suggest GRID to people looking for a racing game. WORST ADVICE EVER !! Unless of course you're in that niche group of gamers in need of a really good snow-tubing simulator. GRID is great for that.

[SilentNegotiator]

What a pathetic attempt to displace the blame from lazy modelling.
Code Disasters strikes again!

There's no reason to buy when there are so many high quality racing game alternatives.

[MVGeneral]

Gran Turismo, nfs shift begs to differ. Excuses for lazy programming.

[KumaKreations]

Looking Forward to when this drops, great time with the first title.

[Kurt Russell]

Agreed, I played the first one loads, especially online touring cars. The in car view thing is a bit of a dud, hopefully they will at least have a bonnet cam otherwise I will be sad :(

[aviator189]

Honestly, this sucks.
I love driving from cockpit view.

[BanBrother]

Same. Even before cockpit views, I always had it in '1st person'. When more games starting using cockpit views, I was extremely happy. I always drive in it.

[UnholyLight]

I totally agree. Almost always drive in cockpit view, it doesn't make sense to make a racing game without a freakin cockpit view!! Probably won't even buy this game now

[Cirran]

As awesome as cockpit view is (I prefer to use it), You do gain an advantage and it makes the game easier to use the 3rd person/car view.

[creeping judas]

Just bought GRiD on the 360 marketplace for $9.99. Thought I'd give it another spin before GRiD2 drops. The cockpit view in GRiD is punishing, as you hit another vehicle the window cracks limiting your view. It is one of the games that I have actually gone back to 3rd persion view, because of that.

[FunkMacNasty]

@ creeping judas

yea, but that's part of the immersion and excitement for many other GRID players. It makes it more of a challenge to race with precision and avoid the temptation to bounce off other cars to make a pass.

Just another reason why Codemaster's shoulda left the cockpit cam in the game.. that way players who still want to use it have the option, and those who preferr third person or the bumper cam have the option as well.

[WarThunder]

Cockpit Cam Removed to Appease Console Owners? Really?

What a lame excuses... Fact is that they do not want to spend time improving the interior details inside each car. They blame "console owners" and not themselves for not polishing and improving the interior details of each car.

Console Owners can press a button and change the views if they want....

[vitullo31]

I accidentally hit disagree because of my iPhone but I completely agree with you that's a terrible excuse

[WarThunder]

No problem! :D

[adorie]

Now that you mention it, that makes perfect sense.

[nutcrackr]

Title is a bit sensational. The developer basically says cockpit view was removed so they had more room to add more cars, detail on the track.

[Hicken]

A bit? They make it sound like console owners interested in the game petitioned them to remove the cockpit view.

Hit grabbing at its finest(worst).

[guitarse]

you have to be fucking kidding me, I'm cockpit cam all the way in racing games! ESPECIALLY GRID! This is a complete let down to be honest and "lack of power" on the consoles is a fucking lie too. Drop the resolution like every either dev! ¬_¬

but seriously, they clearly cant be arsed to put in the spanner time on the game engine to get this to work, nor the dev time to make the cockpit, now that's what I call cutting corners.

[kudakadere]

Well if you say so , enjoy lower sales and ratings that Grid 1 .

[arronax-1]

I...fail to see how this really makes since.

[fsfsxii]

Hmmm...blame the consoles, this is a let down, Cockpit view is my default in racing games and its necessary if you have a driving wheel.
well, i'll wait for a price drop

[cleverusername]

WOW I didn't think Codemasters could get any more annoying!! I WAS WRONG!! Considering the amount of time they've been working with that EGO engine this gen and the amount of games they've made with it this gen that's a poor excuse!! They should have had it running at 60fps on console by now too!!

[SatanSki]

And thus PC version should be boycotted. Offcourse its not gonna happen and then people will cry PC games are limited by consoles.

[first1NFANTRY]

If this bothers you then i suggest you save your money and time for Drive Club on ps4.

check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[Hazadess1]

Guess I'll be sticking to NFS Shift 2. Can't drive without cockpit. Shame bout that, first Grid was good fun. Drifting was better in 3rd person though.

[FunkMacNasty]

That really sucks :-(

That's the reason why I love games like GT5, the more recent Forza games (after Forza 2 they addd a cockpit cam), Midnight Club LA, PGR series, the Original Grid... etc.

If you're really into cars, and you really want to feel that you're 'in the race', nothing beats the immersion of a nice detailed cockpit view.

As far as racing games go nowadays, most have a cockpit view (the bumper or hood view doesn't count IMO), so unfortunatley the fact that there wont be a cockpit view for GRID 2 means I will have to pass on this one, and stick with the GT and Forza series for my racing needs. Nonetheless, I think those franchises do it better than anyone anyway.

[Lighter9]

When is taking something out a good thing?

[InTheLab]

So...just buy Turismo, Forza, and Shift 2. All three respect console gaming enough to not use ridiculous excuses for charging full price for half assed development...

[delboy]

Lame codemasters, even real racing 3 on mobile phones has cockpit view.
Btw it's a great game and it's free.

[sourav93]

Is it gonna look better than GT5 on current gen consoles? No? Then no excuse for not bringing in cockpit view. If a game like GT5 can do it this gen, any game can.

[RGB]

Utter BS, I own loads of racing games on console and cockpit cam is paramount for enjoyment. Standard cars are terrible on GT5 even with the update that added silhouette interiors.

F1 games I play with cockpit cam, GT5 with cockpit cam, NFS: Shift with cockpit cam, Ferrari Challenge with cockpit cam, Ferrari Racing Legends with cockpit cam. Hell I'd play GTA IV with cockpit cam in most vehicles if it had it!

[N0S3LFESTEEM]

Isn't cock pit just a euphemism for Vagina...

[MidnytRain]

Looks like PC owners need to stop pirating their games...

[Knushwood Butt]

Sounds like BS.

I remember reading an article a while back where they said they couldn't justify spending the dev time doing cockpits when only a small percentage of players use that view.

Well, I'm on of the small percentage, and won't be buying this game.

[FulGor3]

I don't understand this logic. Most of the time, I play GT5 in the cockpit view.

[Yukicore]

The cockpit is not even the worst part. The handling of the cars in the recent demonstrations looked like the game's engine is based on Mario Kart 1996. The game is just boring if it's that easy to play it.

[ironfist92]

Project Cars has cockpit views in ALL of its cars (and the graphics/details are astounding), and its a mutliplatform title :/

Codemasters has no real excuse for this omission

[Feldman9000]

I'm sorry but this is going to kill this title and i'm no longer interested to be honest. GT5 is able to do it and so was need for speed shift and even F1 does it and it's codemasters. No excuse for this.