Submitted by TimNunes 954d ago | opinion piece

Why MGS fans should play Metal Gear Rising

PlayStation Universe's very own Timothy Nunes generated a video in regards to Metal Gear Rising: Revengence and why fans of the major franchise Metal Gear Solid should feel comfortable jumping into this next title. (Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance, Metal Gear Solid Series, PS3, Xbox 360)

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porgep  +   954d ago
Agreed with your points. It's nice to see MGR stands on its own, but is still tied into its roots.
TimNunes  +   954d ago
Even though I was anticipative leading up to launch, I couldn't help but worry that something would go wrong. I should have more faith in Hideo Kojima: if he signs off on something, it's worth your time.
onyoursistersback  +   954d ago
i have see the game on sale already....i think ima wait a month or 2, and pay no more then 30 bucks.
KuroiTori  +   954d ago
I definitely enjoyed this game and it's a welcome addition to the franchise, at least to me.
Hanso  +   954d ago
me too^^
BlaqMagiq24  +   954d ago
Agreed. One of the best hack and slashes I ever played.
NYC_Gamer  +   954d ago
I played the demo and MGR just isn't for me
admiralvic  +   954d ago
The demo is actually pretty bad (assuming it's the same one included with ZoE or you're talking about that one), but the game is far better. The demo doesn't really make it clear HOW to play (full game doesn't exactly do a great job either), so the controls / gameplay seem worse than they actually are. In fact I hated the demo, though I still ended up loving the final product.
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WilliamH  +   954d ago
I played the demo and that was more than enough. MGS by name but not by nature. That parry system was horrible
DragonKnight  +   954d ago
The parry system becomes broken if you constantly flick the analog stick forward and attack. It renders you practically invincible.
Hanso  +   954d ago
not true
DragonKnight  +   954d ago
I didn't say you become invulnerable, nor that it works on all enemies, but for the most part you can make it through the game flicking the stick forward and rendering the game far easier than should be possible.
admiralvic  +   954d ago
Either you never played this game and are going off what idiots on the internet told you or you're making a gross exaggeration.

For starters, it's not forward + attack, it's attack + the direction of their attack... So even if you do spam it, you still have to plan accordingly. As I mentioned in my other reply towards you, if it was really that simple, people wouldn't complain about Monsoons smoke bomb attack. Furthermore, only a perfect parry (which requires timing) does a counter attack, where as the other one just blocks. This means you actually need to open yourself up for attacks, be able to go between parries / attacks (some would consider this skill, I am guessing you're not one of them) or wait till you perfect parry to get the upper hand. Lastly, certain enemies / higher difficulties have different rules than the lower ones. Like you can parry MG Excelsus's blades, but you WILL take damage. Between things you shouldn't parry, things you can't parry and the whole having to attack thing... your point is practically moot.

On a different note, the same could be said of any dodge system in this genre. Not like the evasive roll / dash is that different in Ninja Gaiden, just pick a direction and avoid all problems. Yet doing it at the wrong time will leave you open to attack, just like doing it in the wrong direction / too early (typically does an attack) / stopping short (multiple hits require multiple flicks) will result in you taking damage.
DragonKnight  +   954d ago
For goodness sake, how many times do I have to say "I didn't say you become invulnerable nor that it works on all enemies" for you to stop bombarding me with your fanboy defense? And why are you arguing with semantics? Do you really require me to say "flicking the analog stick in the direction of your enemy" so that you'll stop crying about it? Geez, don't take my word for it and look up gameplay videos of people doing it if you don't believe me. Hell, even look up Angry Joe's review on the game. You can try to deny its existence all you want, doesn't make you right if people are doing it.
admiralvic  +   954d ago
I've played Rising and almost have the platinum...

My point is that you're over simplifying the game and acting like its existence is worse than any other hack and slash game out there...

Ninja Gaiden 1 had an evasive dodge / roll that could get you out of almost any jam out there.
Ninja Gaiden 2 / 3 (been a while, so I might be wrong...) has a flat out button you hold to block (thus requiring far less effort than Rising) that can withstand a good number of hits and the evasive dodge / roll.
Bayonetta had Witch time with perfect dodges, the ability to dodge without taking damage and some perks that made these skills better (like the explosive thing replacing witch time).
Never played DmC / Devil May Cry, but I am sure there is also some sort of dodge too...

They all work the same and you can make the same stupid claims if you wanted. "Just spam dodge and you're practically invincible", "Just spam witch time and you're practically invincible.", "Just hold block and you're practically invincible", yet you call out Rising like the parry system is something absurdly broken and invalidates any form of skill in the game.
DragonKnight  +   954d ago
I never said, nor implied, that MGR is the worst hack and slash ever. That's your own misconception derived from your opinion about the game. I made a comment you didn't like, period, and now you're trying to act like I insulted your sensibilities. Grow up and stop reading into things.
admiralvic  +   954d ago
But it's not Metal Gear Solid by name... thats what people need to realize. It's RISING. MGR not trying to be Solid, it's trying to be its own thing in the same universe. This much is clear, since none of the snake appear in the actual game. Sure there's that sword (via DLC), but minor fan service =/= trying to cash in on a franchises popularity.

@ DragonKnight

You would be right, but it's not that simple. Several enemies, like Monsoon, force you to do it in various directions, plus not every attack can be parried. If the system was HALF as broken as you claim, the trophies / achievements for perfecting the bosses / doing VR missions would be a LOT higher.
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2pacalypsenow  +   954d ago
Played the demo for like 1 minute , not my type of game
Enemy  +   954d ago
This is like saying "Why MGS fans should play Ninja Gaiden"
StrawberryDiesel420  +   954d ago
This game kicks Ninja Gaiden's ass, it's damn good. The gameplay is rock solid, it runs beautifully with a nice high framerate and zero screen tearing(on PS3 at least) and the entire concept of a futuristic cyborg ninja setting plays out very well in my opinion. Platinum Games did a great job here.
jetlian  +   953d ago
ninja gaiden still number 1. beat this a few hours ago. Last boss is a pain. In fact sundowner,monsoon both a pain. way to much parrying going on.

I liked the game tho just not as smooth as NG. tomorrow i'll start dmc
yami930  +   954d ago
This game is great, the story is great (can use some explainations in 1 or 2 areas, but other than that codec and main game script great story), cutscenes are pretty cool, the bosses are interesting (Monsoon is my favorite boss amongst any game recently released), dialouge and voice acting are great (as always for a Metal Gear game) aside from jack the ripper dialouge at times, VR missions were fun while challenging and there is a lot of replayability. On my total gameplay counter (which is seen on the save data file screens once you press start after booting up the game) I have more than 30 hours put into the game and there still just a few titles left I need to get to fully complete the game.
PirateThom  +   954d ago
It's a good game, but I think you really need to like hack and slash games to full appreciate it (I do not, sadly).

If you don't go in expecting a Metal Gear game, you get a good game. Once you start comparing it to the other games in the series, it does the game a disservice but, also, it just isn't as good.
d0nT wOrrY  +   954d ago
After trying the demo, I realized that it's not for me. Enjoy it.
Why would a Metal Gear Solid fan play a shitty hack & slash that craps all over the story of MGS despite the removal of "Solid" from the title?

I couldn't care less about this overrated Platinum Games garbage. Just mash square until you get a QTE prompt or go to blade mode for one hit kills.

This is the most casual trash hack & slash there is. Go into ripper mode which cuts everything with ease, weaken an enemy which is even easier in this mode, deactivate it and refill all of your health & blade mode crap and just repeat throughout the game. The game is terrible.
baldulf  +   954d ago
Whatever you say Donte...
Nate-Dog  +   954d ago

Fixed that for you.
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Xklaw  +   954d ago
You care enough to post in every rising article.
DragonKnight  +   954d ago
"Why would a Metal Gear Solid fan play a shitty hack & slash that craps all over the story of MGS despite the removal of "Solid" from the title?"


Pay attention to what your profile pic is doing Donte.
StrawberryDiesel420  +   954d ago
LOL you troll every Metal Gear Rising article....Don't you have a job or something else to do?
Whitefox789  +   954d ago
I'm still wondering how he has managed to retain all his bubbles personally.
RyuX19  +   954d ago
DmC flopped.
just-joe  +   954d ago
Hard to feel sorry for Ninja Theory when all they did was poke fun at the initial fan-base of the series along with the original developers (Platinum).
BlaqMagiq24  +   954d ago
Really? You couldn't care less yet you know so much about the game. How ironic. You're stupidity at its finest. Go ahead and disagree with me like you always do even though you know I'm right.
SAE  +   954d ago
Just play it for what it is ! It doesn't try to be like mgs ! It's trying to tell a story of raiden in metal gear universe! If it is not your cup of tea then don't buy it but don't say it's not a good game because it is one of the best games i ever played. No one can deny how good this game is. I hate cars but i can't say gt5 sucks. it's one of the best sims ever created. Same with this game for me.
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TheOneEyedHound  +   954d ago
MGS is my favirote franchise, I know everything about anything on the mgs universe.

When I played the demo, it felt right, but when is it when you say,it's to much and not even possible for even the MGS universe?

It felt like the first time in MGS4 when raiden battled vamp & the gekko, It also felt fake and weird cutting what you want.

Sorry if it came out weird I' m in a hurry.
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Tzuno  +   954d ago
Because when they will arrive at the last boss they will break their console in anger, the last boss is a beast in therms of how hard it is to beat and that on normal difficulty :)
solid_warlord  +   954d ago
This is no MGS...MGS is a " stealth action SHOOTER" NOT a dildo wielding crappy sword fighting game. I played the demo, cant stand sword button mashing game. Its a laugh. What next world of Warcraft going "shooter".

This is fail.
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KingKelloggTheWH  +   954d ago
While the game is very fun it is not Metal Gear to me,when playing it I had to think of it as something completely unrelated in order to enjoy it.
SAE  +   954d ago
This is a spin off. Where does it says it's trying to be like mgs? It have metal gear name because the story is about metal gear too . No S because there is no solid in it and that means the gameplay will be about the character. If kojima made another spin off it will be named metal gear too but the character will have it's own gameplay just like raiden.

I dunno why you guys can't understand the reason of making this game and what it is about -.-
KingKelloggTheWH  +   954d ago
I am fine with the gameplay,I was referring to story and world.
Sooo don't assume things.
Deadpool616  +   954d ago
There's several hours of codec conversations in the select menu that have easter eggs about what other characters in the Metal Gear universe are up to. There's some information about technology, cities, history, movies, and all sorts of stuff they talk about. It's fun to sit back & listen to the codecs sometimes. I really like all the new characters on Raiden's team.
SAE  +   954d ago
It's weird when kojima didn't let go of this game and you people here claim you are fans of mgs bash it like hell just because it's not trying to be like mgs. Kojima loved this game. It is a great game. You guys clearly can't recognise the good games..

This site is too weird and have lots of fights instead of enjoying the games. This site will be like ign. I will get over it some day. I hope it's soon...
Whitefox789  +   954d ago
People were bashing it even before it went to Platinum games; they were bashing it as soon they heard it would be on X360; they were bashing it when they saw it was an action game versus a stealth game; they were bashing it when they saw it starred Raiden even though god knows when they debuted Raiden in the E3 2006 trailer of MGS4 people were asking Kojima like crazy if they would be able to play as Raiden in MGS4 to a point where he draw the line and said, "No, now please stop asking this question"
BitbyDeath  +   954d ago
Why MGS fans shouldn't play Metal Gear Rising = Cause then they'll make more...
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trenso1  +   954d ago
No I played the demo, and it wasn't for me. Plus I really hope they some how go back to rising original idea. I saw the story for this game and it's makes a mockery of the story and I was really hoping to see how raided became a cyborg ninja with the original idea and not this game which has a story the doesn't really make too much sense
Deadpool616  +   954d ago
The story makes complete sense. Unfortunately, you can't get all the information from a demo.
trenso1  +   953d ago
Should have said I watched some on YouTube cause my brother was watching the gamplays that's where I saw the story and to me it was nonsense
KingKelloggTheWH  +   953d ago
I agree about the story,it was sickeningly bad when compared to MG.
just-joe  +   954d ago
Raiden's come a long way from MGS2.

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