"We just can't seem to get enough next gen console speculation at the moment, with countless websites throwing out wish-lists for Sony and Microsoft's upcoming hardware efforts."
The fact that Microsoft have been quiet for so long is starting to get me worried about all of these rumors. It could mean that these rumors are true for MS and if they are, Sony can win it.
If the rumour about MS blocking used games isn't true then why don't they just come out and say it?
True or not no company cares to talk about used games in any light and if ever they do so it is only in a negative, that being said MS is the more likely of the 3 to attempt to block used games, IMO.
I personally think MS would be crazy to be the only company to block used games. People used to PC gaming are used to this practice, but their games are also a lot cheaper and they don't need to pay for Live to play the same games online. Primarily console users with games starting at $70-60 at launch are gonna flip out. I hardly buy Day 1 anymore, due to price and dlc that will be added a year later in the goty edition. And console pricing on downloadable games are insane. How is Oblivion's Shimmering Isles dlc still priced at $30 on PSN for example? If they want to block used games, then we need better (lower) pricing to ease the blow. Whoa, rant alert! I'm gonna stop myself here. But one more thing. I hate that "list of 10 things, only one thing a page" stuff. Bah... And I'm done :D
Making online officially mandatory, when its all but required now, would be the real issue. They'd directly be alienating consumers with either no or bad connections. That's even with them making the Xbox a cable box, which will likely also come at the additional cost of a cable and/or internet provider. Specific ones at that.
it's not just MS and Sony that's going to block the games... they're going to be open to all of it imo. they'll let the game makers choose to block a used game or not. that way both sony and ms don't look like the bad guys, but the game companies will. and if you want that game, you're going to buy it new no matter what!
Im still interested in seeing what MS has to offer for next gen, but if it's going to be Kinect 2 and blocking used games then count me out for supporting them.
Balmer (current CEO of MS) said they got a new strategy in terms of product announcement in an interview. Instead of announcing products in advance, they will try to adopt a more Apple-like approach. Announcing things and then releasing them asap.... I can't remember where I read it however. In any case time will tell! :-)
I hope this is true, we could be playing in April :D
I just hope they don't rush the hardware along to make the dealine, no need to say why.
@GalacticEmpire I doubt it will be April, but I wouldn't be surprised for near-to E3 announcement and release September/October if they will try to beat PS4's release...
Microsoft has been saying that for a few years now. Or something similar. Not announcing games that would release two or three years later but instead talking about what was happening in the next year.
Lol why people disagree? "Microsoft CEO sees company becoming more like Apple" http://www.reuters.com/arti... Lol and now windows phone, surface & server is failing! lmao.. Just like Gabe Newell said it would.
@shutUpAndTakeMyMoney Some people are taking things to serious when it comes to their favourite brand... EDIT: Thanks for the link! :-)
The Government still uses Microsoft Servers so they will continue to do well
@Cueil Where did I say MS won't do well or anythign similar? :P
That's what I have been saying for weeks now.
I understand the companies blocking used games (I don't like it, but I understand), my concern is the reliability of the consoles and if they start failing like this gen what would I do to now with all the games. Imagine of the 360 and ps3 blocked used games.
I think that only really applies to the 360. The PS3 and Wii have a very low rate of failure.
That's not the point. All electronics are susceptible to failure. What do you do with your games if your console breaks, is the question.
What happens when your game is blocked on all consoles except the one it's registered to and that console over heats or fails in some manner? Transferring the licenses will be pain in the ass for both the consumers and Microsoft.
I understand the concern about reliability. But I wouldn't be as worried when you consider the 720 has been in the works since 2006. I doubt they won't have those problems taken care of this time.
Where did you hear the next Xbox was being worked on since 2006? I know the PS4 was being worked on since 2008 or 5 years before the announcement.
It's been talked about several times in various interviews. Ballmer said that started right after the 360 was launched. People have just forgotten that people have said it. Gamers are no different than the general public. A politician says something and 3 months later no one remembers it. Where did you hear the PS4 has been in development since 2008? Here's a couple of article. There have been several. http://www.dailytech.com/ar... http://www.nytimes.com/2006...
PS3 fanboys always think if it's for the xbox it's not likely...
See in this article where the PS3 fanbys voted this article down because they couldn't believe or accept MSFT putting these specs on a console
They dismissed these rumored 720 specs as ridiculous for a console and would be something MSFT would never do because PS4 specs were rumored to be inferior or lacking around the web at that time.
Now that Sony announced simular specs they claimed a console maker wouldn't put in a console when they thought Sony wouldn't match these rumored specs, what they said before doesn't matter yet they still run around sure of what MSFT can and can not do. Running around sure what MSFT has or does not have.
240 votes in the article I linked saying no way in hell would a console maker would put an 8 core CPU with 8 gigs of ram in a console(because PS4 was rumored to have 4 gigs)just becuase MSFT had these specs.
Every excuse to make these specs look like foolish overkill a console maker would never do was used in my link. Eeverything from cost *to* the console using 8 gigs of ram being too much for video gaames anyhow! Simply because no Sony rumors had these specs during that time.
@dcbronco "Where did you hear the PS4 has been in development since 2008?" It was stated at the PS4 reveal by Sony themselves.
LOL at the disagree Hows disagreeing with cold hard facts working out for you in real life? Real good I hope
Bronco.. Neither of those links confirm anything. First link just vaguely mentions they are looking into the future of xbox (shocker) 2nd link is just mumbo jumbo about nothing relative.
So hiring people to develop a chip for the console doesn't constitute working on the console? At what point does it mean they are working on it. But while neither of those is specific, MS execs have said plainly that they started working on the next Xbox soon after the 360 was released. If you've been on the internet long you know how hard it is to find specific quotes. I got general for you.
(Rumor only) i think Gears will go mp this gen. i think Epic likes the new PS4 spec. this is a perfect time for Epic to reach COD status "Sales wise" Only!
Hell yea, Gears was the only reason I got an X360. Now, if it is on PS4 as well, there is no need for me to even think about getting the Durango to play with Cole Train and company. As I recalled, Epic owns the IP and the deal with Microsoft was only for 3 games.
I don't thin Gears can go MP. From what I know, MS owns the rights to GEars. Epic only being the developer. It would be awesome if I'm wrong though.
no Epic came out and said they themselves the rights to gears of war. I'll post a short interview with them about it. If Epic Games wants Gears of War to be released on the PS3, it has the power to make it happen. One of the biggest exclusive franchises for the Xbox 360 has been Gears of War, with a third installment expected in September 2011. Contrary to what might be popular belief, Epic Games chooses to keep the popular shooter on Microsoft's console, and is not forced to do so. Speaking to IndustryGamers, Epic Games president Mike Capps said: "Do we wish we could take all those Killzone [players] and Resistance fans on PS3, and get them to say Gears is awesome'? Yeah, sure I'd love to ship the Gears trilogy on PlayStation ... I want to be there; I want to be everywhere." Capps confirmed that Gears of War is Epic's IP, but said that Microsoft makes an exclusive partnership very worthwhile. "Time and time again, when it came down to figure out what we do next with Gears, we sat down with Microsoft and they've given us really good, compelling reasons to work with them again," he added. When Epic Games was just, in Capps' words, the "Unreal studio," Microsoft took a chance and used Gears of War to help launch the Xbox 360. It marketed the series, helped test it, and has generally both saved and made Epic money. But is it enough money to keep Gears of War off of the PS3 forever? Capps seems to indicate a desire to share the experience with PS3 owners. Perhaps the inevitable Gears of War 4 will go multi-platform someday. http://www.escapistmagazine... thats the website that this came from
I stand corrected. Well, I hope they buck the trend, Stick it to MS and not only release Gears on the PS4, but also back log the rest for DL on PS network. How bout that for using the power of attraction from the universe.
If blocking used games, and always having to be online are actual features of the new Xbox...Sony will win this. However, this doesn't mean the new Xbox won't sell well.
Sony already debunked 3 of those rumors. They said used games would be allowed in an interview. Sony said you can play games offline with no internet connections. Sony said games would be 60$. So EA can't price games at 70$ originally, unless they were limited editions, which they were already pricing at 70$ for the first print (for example, Need for Speed Hot pursuit 2010 was 69.99$ at launch, which quickly went down once limited edition was out of there) Also, I am pretty sure digital video recording and live streaming (1st and 2nd rumor) are already confirmed to be features on PS4.
'They said used games would be allowed in an interview. ' That still remains to be seen; http://arstechnica.com/gami...
They said it will not blocked used games. The media has been trying to find conspiracy in the statement by saying that the tone sounded unsure. Jack tretton and Yoshida has countless of times said that the use game market and using physical media is still preferred choice... I don't understand why so many are questioning that reasoning
The rumor that XBox 360 1/2 will be a Kinect based machine w/ hardly any exclusives for real gamers. The smart money is w/ the above.
For those who want to quickly see the main points: 1. Live Streaming. 2. DVR 3. Game RRP: $70 4. CPU Clocked at 2GHZ 5. Used Game Blocks 6. Required Internet Connection 7. Backwards Compatability 8. Non Transferable Digital Titles 9. Improved Body recognition with motion controls 10. $400+ console price.
they are not going to step backwards... that means you'll be able to transfer you digital content as it's not locked to a system anymore and is totally account based
I hope the dual APU rumors were true about the 720. I GPU for Graphics and one for graphics and compute.
Oh no. Someone says I can't hope the dual GPU rumors are true.
You said dual APU. And dual GPUs in a console would either be overkill in price and unused efficiency or Microsoft would take a big hit in manufacturing costs.
I am going total digital this gen, I am tired of my friends borrowing my games and not returning them.
Then when your HD crashes you'll have nothing. There's a better solution to that problem...don't let your friends borrow your shit.
Your games stay on you're account when you buy them, just buy another Ps4 and use you're same info.
Your a sally. Theres this word called "no". You can even tell them to give your game back. Sounds crazy right?
Whoever's first blocking used games is the first company I won't buy a console from. I don't think it'll happen this gen though, I've heard the rumours, but I don't think either of the big three are willing to drop this bomba.
"Sony have done well in consoling the press and public regarding this one. They have told us that the PS4 will not block or watermark used versions of games," so has this been finally confirmed by sony? also #3 is half false. sony has stated that games will still be $60 for the PS4. of course, we don't know what MS will charge, but i imagine that they wouldn't make people pay more for games than their competition otherwise no one would buy their products.
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