1up - Killzone, Watch Dogs, Infamous, The Witness and more attempt to sell gamers on the PS4.
'Come on lads, let's stick the boot in a few mores times before we finally close our site up.' That's what this slew of recent articles suggest to me.
they should take a closer look at KnacK, it was more of a technical demonstration than a trailer, the physics in that game are impressive, also depth of field is great. technically it was more impressive than KZ:SF, if you know what to look for. a good journalist would do that instead of rehashing stuff.
Knack was very impressive. Theres this CGI movie of Astro Boy and Knack looks real close to it graphically!
Haha, good journalist... What, you think it's the 70s or 80s?
Honestly, average gamers won't care or even notice that stuff, we need to see more obvious evidence of a generational leap beyond prettier graphics and/or obscure details, I know that's easier said than done but I think it's important. I know the PS4 is an impressive console but the games are what will sell it, until I can see or get hands on with a genuine PS4 game that demonstrates some impressive AI or innovative game mechanics, Im going to hold my judgement and not be pulled in by the hype we get when any new console generation is being ushered in.
They should take a look at other console launches. Take the Wii U for example, the games look no different to PS3 and Xbox 360 games. Look at the Xbox 360 launch, those games barely looked any better than the generation before it and even plenty of launch titles were just slightly fancier PS2 games (Burnout Revenge, Most Wanted etc). Consoles never launch with games that are huge leaps over the previous console generation, that's just not how the industry works. You'd think that the fools at 1up would know this, but maybe their stupidity is why they're all losing their jobs. Oh well!
A little different going from the Xbox to the 360, as we were jumping into HD for the first time and look at Condemned: Criminal Origins. It was quite beautiful and brutal for a launch title.
@jimbobwahey "Consoles never launch with games that are huge leaps over the previous console generation" Seriously, when did you start gaming? NES to Snes was a huge leap, so was PS1 to PS2, PS2 to PS3 was gigantic and don't even get me started with the Saturn and the Dreamcast. It is true most games don't look as good as they could until near the end of a console generation, but more often than not there is a clear difference between a past and present console. I expect come E3 we will very likely be blown away by some PS4 titles but that simply hasn't happened to me yet.
I agree about Knack. What strikes me is that even PS fans are now using the 'but they're first gen games' or 'but they're using only 4GB of memory' as some sort of buffer to those who question the 'so called' jump to next gen. Please, don't sit on the fence like that, it shows you've fallen into the trap. Killzone WAS significantly better, What Cage showed WAS significantly better, what MM showed WAS significantly better and what Capcom showed with Deep Down WAS significantly better. There are NO quibbles, so please don't pander to those who want to downplay the significant leaps and be forthright and vocal in your complete disagreement. You are reading the post of someone who constantly went on about how next gen WOULDN'T be a significant leap and boy was I wrong. And I'm not in any way suggesting that MS won't offer this level of increase, I'm just speaking from a PS fan perspective. Don't let the dissenters make you question what you saw. It was real and it was fantastic. I haven't been this excited since the PS2 days.
I thought Knack looked like a Pixar quality game which impressed me nearly the most of all games.
Lack of next-gen feel? They've totally forgotten about the existence of Wii duUum.
1UP knows they're about to lose their jobs and are doing everything they can to get hits. Man, good riddance.
Imagine what Bethesda is going to do next gen :o
DEEP DOWN Was the most impressive for me.
I didn't see much evidence of next-gen gameplay although I thought the games were visually impressive.
I agree with them. The PS4 may have some very impressive specs but none of the games shown had the wow effect. You would have told me they were very advanced end cycle PS3 games I would have believed you. The next gen wow effect is the effect the first Geow demo had on the gameing world for instance. At that very moment you felt next gen dropping like a bomb, you knew games wouldnt be the same. Nothing they showed at the PS4 reveal gave that impression. I guess we have to wait till E3 or later in the year to get that next gen "Geow wow moment". But hey yeah, I guess Im a rabid Xbox fanboy for not saying that the PS4 games shown were the best things Ive ever seen in my life. So its ok go ahead and unleash yourselves on me :)
It's just his opinion. I don't see why 1up would be looking to attack anything. Next gen games looked good though, but we can't expect the same leap as from last. Eventually the graphical incrementations of hardware lifecycles will bottom out, and we won't see any significant notable improvements from one to the next. Probably in like 20 years or so, but bear that in mind. It's not always going to be like this. One day our video games will be near 1:1 with real life, then what? Are people going to continue complaining about the absence of technical improvement?
@Oh_Yeah - "Imagine what Bethesda is going to do next gen :o" They'll still have an amount of bugs that would be unacceptable from any other developer, but Bethesda will get a pass as usual. Next gen they may achieve their dream, which is to have the exact same bugs on all platforms. The Elder Scrolls games really haven't changed all that much since the original one came out in the early 90s, so I wouldn't look for much of a leap in the next chapter, beyond graphical upgrades. "Next gen" means more than better graphics to me. @DOMination - I agree. I haven't seen any gameplay that can't be done on current hardware, except the graphics. I still want a damn PS4 though. lol @SuperLupe - I don't know why Gears wowed you any more than these new titles. Gears had no revolutionary "next gen" gameplay either.
Superlupe, zerocrossing, etc : amnesia ? blindess ? what is your problem.. http://www.youtube.com/user...
@jimbobwahey "Consoles never launch with games that are huge leaps over the previous console generation" As zerocrossing already pointed out there were big differences from previous generation games on most new consoles and most was the difference you failed to notice from SD to HD last gen. Games like PGR3, Condemed and even the ones you mentioned looked amazing from anything we had seen on previous gen consoles. Did you even play on ps1 or ps2 or xbox or maybe you are mistaking for games leap from iphone 3 to iphone 4 to iphone 5 not the consoles.
So the Wii U's games had a next-gen feel and the PS4's DIDN'T? Goodbye, 1-up; you won't be missed at all.
@domination "I didn't see much evidence of next-gen gameplay" And I didn't see a next gen artistical touch at all. What is this 2013? Seriously next gen GAMEPLAY? WTH is that? Kinect right?
Each to his own, I guess. I was blown away by Killzone and Deep Down.
To me it looked like the 'same ol same ol' fps tropes that we've been wallowing in this generation. Yes, it looked great, but I'm expecting more. For example, when I shoot someone in the leg, that particular leg should show damage, and they should limp. If I shoot them in the side, they should hold or grab their side. Get shot in the hand, then that hand is disabled, and the AI has to switch hands, making their accuracy and reloading suffer. There shouldn't be a technical reason stuff like that should be missing, otherwise, we haven't really received true next gen yet. Hopefully we get better.
@above You're talking about a nice mix of realism with the fun arcade fps. Usually when they try that it just gets annoying.
they actually aim to show what gamer's knew as fps they did not show nothing new to not scare the gamers and make them feel familiar to what they know.. there are many new things and different levels In KZSF, decisions and different game play forms.. they just show a 8min level.. and in it you could see many next gen features but with the classic FPS gameplay to please the FPS fans..and make them want the game.
I agree 360ICE, the graphics for deep down was breathtaking and the gameplay if that was gameplay looks next gen to me.
I wasnt as it's not open world so the backdrop means nothing ?? The Zelda tech demo demonstrated extreme gameplay,with exaggerated camera ect i thought that gameplay on that specific tech demo was NEXTGEN gameplay.
@falcon79 It's not open world so the background means nothing? Really? Flippin' weird opinion, but okay.
Yeah really, it's kinda embarrassing to see these clowns trying to push out as much anti-PS4 garbage as they can before they lose their jobs. Glad to see that they'll be out of work soon!
@whoyouwit Did it ever occur to you that they're losing their jobs due to poor perfomance? 1Up is not an XBox site, so when the bulk of your staff is all Xbox, you tend to alienate a segment of you readership. A ton of people feel like they're Xbots or just hate mongers so a ton of people are happy to see them go.
@whoyouwit04 Let's face it, they've been spouting their anti Sony babble for long enough.. Everybody's tired of it, p45 time son!
Why do you think they are going out of business? They alienated part of their website. Which left them looking petty and uninformed. A lot of people stopped visiting them and they lost a lot of revenue. If you weren't impressed you need glasses. This next gen will run at a standard 1080p. Which is all you can ask for in a next gen console seeing as tv only go to 1080p. So what more do you want? It's a video game system maxed for a maxed out tv. So many haters in this world.
To Nintendo fans, does your console look next gen? Hey Xbox fans, does your console look next gen? Lame media telling us what they think as fact when the proof is right before their eyes. What happens if MS next console is weaker than the ps4? Do we forget all these garbage articles or is this the direction of the gaming media. WE play on a console for the games. Specific games to be exact. This whole argument about graphics is old. Zelda was fun back in the day and it's still fun today even though it's not today's graphics. Some gamers have lost site of what video games are. Every gen consoles get stronger and more capable same as it always has been. No amount of hate from the media will change that. We went from 512mb to 8gb of the best, did I mention the BEST, of ram. Only developers will limit this console. The tech is there. Now will they use it.