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Submitted by NintendoLegend 811d ago | article

Case Closed: Perfect Dark is Superior to GoldenEye 007

Some people need to take off their rose-colored nostalgia glasses and recognize the truth. (Culture, Retro)

knifefight  +   811d ago
I liked Perfect Dark's ability to include bots and roll some co-op multiplayer. Couch multiplayer, man, so underused in today's games.
NintendoLegend  +   811d ago
I agree. Me and my friends created a "zombie" scenario: Eight simulants, all FistSims (so they never used guns), us against them with basic weapons (pistol, magnum, knife, shotgun)... hours and hours of fun.
execution17  +   811d ago
lol did something similar to that with Timesplitters 2/Future Perfect with Virus mode, played that for hours on end
ZeroChaos  +   811d ago
I did the same with a friend of mine. When venge sim on the hardest difficulty got you you were in trouble xD fun times :P
3-4-5  +   811d ago
I love both and played way too much of them but...

* PD doesn't have the Stack
AvidGamerrrr  +   811d ago
Never got around to playing but I will now! Great write-up!
NintendoLegend  +   811d ago
Thank you! Flattered.
bullymangLer  +   811d ago
you may want to get it for the N64 though . .the H.D. version for x box 360 is a shame compared to the original one for N64 . . . and Perfect Dark is ANOTHER reason why no other game machine is better than the N64 . . sweet FACT #471
Tetsujin  +   811d ago
Perfect Dark requires the 8 MB RAM expansion to get the full feel of the game; for Goldeneye a memory card was optional.
N0S3LFESTEEM  +   811d ago
I got the game for Christmas one year... the hitch was that I didn't get a Expansion pak with it. It took until my birthday (June 10th) before I got one. If you don't have the expansion park your stuck with only a gimped down version of the VR missions with nothing but one skin for everyone in the game... I beat every single one of those missions before I ever even got to touch the Story.
GalacticEmpire  +   811d ago
"GoldenEye fans will vehemently insist that their favorite is somehow actually better than Perfect Dark. This is, of course, despite the fact that it simply is not."

Another blogger trying to pass their opinion off as fact, stopped reading right there. Some people think Goldeneye is better, it's their opinion and they're allowed to have it, get over it.
NintendoLegend  +   811d ago
Hey, thanks for reading the entire article in order to understand my argument, then offering a valid critique! I really appreciate it. :) Your ability to cite opinions that I never actually express (you really think I believe other people are not entitled to differing opinions?) is great!
GalacticEmpire  +   811d ago
So you're admitting it was a misleading 'bait and switch' headline and article?
Baka-akaB  +   811d ago
If you present your argument in a piss-poor and flamebait fashion , then you deserve some piss poor answers .

You dont get to call out people's read
Tetsujin  +   811d ago
"But to claim that GoldenEye 007 is the better game requires leaps of logic based on premises not found in the world of Reality." (From the article)

I agree Galactic, too many try to pass opinions off as facts; and just because a game has a soundtrack that's remixed more than another game personally doesn't really mean much to me - if anything it means a lot of people don't like the original score and would rather have something better.

I could easily write "Why Goldeneye is better than Perfect Dark" however I'd rather leave that to someone else who's bored.
napoleon1066  +   811d ago
Did you read the article? I thought he made his points really well. Perfect Dark offered similar gameplay with a whole lot more features. Sure, GoldenEye broke ground, but Perfect Dark took that effort to another level.
slaton24  +   811d ago
you state that a goldeneye fan would say their game is better than perfect dark...when in fact you are stating that perfect dark is better than goldeneye....that is nothing more than an opinion...i owned both and loved them both
xdavillainx  +   811d ago
But it's not ahahahahah
STK026  +   811d ago
Of course Perfect Dark is the better game. Better graphics, bots, ability to customize multiplayer characters, multiplayer stats, numerous challenges, more abd arguably better guns, a more complete story (Goldeneye prettu much expected you to have seen the movie and then let you play the best scenes, while Perfect Dark had the whole story), etc. Add co-op and counter-op and you perrty much have one of the most complete package for a FPS game at the time (online multiplayer is missing, but there wasn't much if any online gaming on consoles back then).

I can see why people say Goldeneye is the better game, as it's usually nostalgia or simply the fact that they played Goldeneye more at the time. However, if you were to ask someone who hasn't played any of the games which one is better after a few days of playing each, Perfect Dark would likely win by a landslide.
ape007  +   811d ago
this is perhaps the greatest game i have ever played
maniacmayhem  +   811d ago
I agree with this, Perfect Dark improved upon everything Goldeneye did plus some more.

They even added Goldeneye weapons and levels. Perfect Dark is in need and deserves a next gen sequel.
jjb1981  +   811d ago
Perfect Dark is my favorite n64 game and when I found out about the hd version, I had to buy it. I still play it with bots. Me vs 3 hard sims, ridiculous fun
esemce  +   811d ago
I still own both, Pdark had better Mp but SP I'd say that they are equal, I personally would choose Goldeneye.
And the HD remake of Pdark is very good Sp actually runs at 60fps and with modern controls it does make the game easier though.
WeskerChildReborned  +   811d ago
Lol i actually liked both and can't say which one is better since i haven't played them in ages sadly, i remember i got scared when some dude popped out of a corner on Perfect Dark and killed me(i was young and i had no clue their was a guy gonna pop out)

Either way, both had fun bot/offline MP.
Jek_Porkins  +   811d ago
I enjoyed both, but I think I liked Perfect Dark a bit more. The fact that it was a totally new team at Rare that built Goldeneye was impressive, but the more talented team built Perfect Dark. Both great games, both classics and it's really difficult to pick one, but I'd have to go with Perfect Dark.
Tokyo_reject  +   811d ago
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHA Little late for this review.....but what ev =P
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Ambient_Malice  +   811d ago
It's amusing how people whine about needing an Expansion Pack when Donkey Kong needed one, too. So did Majora's Mask, considered by some fans as the best, most mature Zelda game in the series.

People whine about Goldeneye's multiplayer being better, failing, usually, to mention the fact Perfect Dark has the best maps from Goldeneye. Sure, the fact you can't use GE guns in the N64 original's multiplayer is a shame, but it's hardly a deal breaker.

People whine about the framerate, ignoring that Goldeneye's framerate was all over the place despite lacking Perfect Dark's dynamic lighting and near-infinite draw distance. Not to mention fiddling with the options, such as letterboxing, and disabling the optional high resolution mode, can significantly boost framerates.

They whine about the single player, claiming the admittedly annoying Pelagic II represents the whole game. No mention is made of fog ridden mazes like Statue and Jungle from Goldeneye. They whine about the game having aliens in it, as if this was somehow a legit criticism.

They whine about the music. This is a ridiculously subjective accusation. But needly to say, Perfect Dark has very good music. Not to mention surround sound support.

Perfect Dark fans make reasonable arguments which compare GE and Perfect Dark on an artistic and technical basis. Goldeneye fans say GE was more fun, they hated Elvis, they hated the voice actors, they hated the lack of James Bond, they hated the multiplayer, and they hated the story.
kristoforsparrow  +   805d ago
I bought Perfect Dark a few months ago and have been waiting for a rainy day to play it. It's supposed to rain tonight. I'm looking forward to playing after reading this. Goldeneye will always have a soft spot in my heart from the multi-player college days, but I'm old now and mostly play single player.

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