8Bit Envy's Seth Rich takes a look at Microsoft's current situation in the industry and the possible problems and solutions.
I have never been impressed by Microsoft as a gaming company. And never understood the big whoop about Xbox Live. Bunch of hype, little to no substance!
Well you have to remember that when Xbox Live came out (talking about for the original Xbox) it was pretty stellar to be able to play people on your console. Sure PS2 and Dreamcast had the capability but I think Xbox Live really made things mainstream.
just don't trust ms as a gaming company if I'm honest..fact of the matter is they abandoned the original Xbox in favour for the 360 and for the last couple years they have done the same to the 360 firstparty wise as it seems all its efforts are now being focused on the nextbox once fool me... twice not gonna happen ms
When Xbox Live came out with games like Mechassualt console gamers had a huge wake-up call. Talking to people, sending out invites, all in a very easy fashion. It really changed the way we viewed online gaming. However as years went by others took notice, mainly Sony. So here we are today with Microsoft being the exception of still being the only ones who charge just to play online. If Sony continues the free to play model this will put even greater pressure on Microsoft to offer something of some better substance or drop the entry fee. The PS4 also seems to abolish the headache developers have had with past consoles so the next Xbox will not have that luxury of being an easy to develop console as an advantage. Sony was also very smart not to announce a price for the PS4 but come out swinging with impressive specs. So either Microsoft shapes up and gets involved with making worthwhile titles again or they go the route of trying something different like they did with Kinect. They won't be able to go toe to toe any more with Sony since they won't have a year headstart or hardware developers prefer. That means charging less for the hardware or upping their game with decent exclusives. Unless of course they change gaming with some new innovations. They are the wild card right now and gamers have grown tired of their E3 presentations the last few years.
MS is getting free money, they won't drop the live fees while a lot of people continue to pay for it.
@theBawse You are right. They cared shit about gamers before xbox.They abandoned the xbox within months(the same with their Kin -Mobile systems) but I trusted Peter Moore-he did a great job and xboy live was a huge step but massivly overpriced. Sadly many xboy fanboys call this Rip off:"service and experience" instead keeping up pressure to make MS cut down xbox live to 20 dollar or make it ps plus like. I knew after Moore left that the good times are over.Exclusives almost dissappeared or were destroyed like fable or crackdown. But I think people don"t have to worry for the xbox3 release. MS will do a good job as they know that they need a core user base that is willing to pay lots of money for xbox3.They will buy some exclusives,they will buy some ratings(average rating of the first 3 MS 1st party games-94%-MS already has paid the reviews)and a huge marketing campaign at around 1billion dollar to make you believe how great kinect2 is and that you don"t need to use used games) After the xbox3 gets cheaper they will use the same trick they did with the 360-massive investment in casual crap and tv,ignoring the core gamer:"Here some Halo and gears sequels,a forza and shut up"
So you think Microsoft bribes reviewers because their games were too good?
Xbox Live is great but not perfect, it definitely needs some serious uplift. Like: 1.)Apps and MP free right out of the box. 2.)PSN+ type subscriptions along with possible free games, DLC, TV shows, Movies, Music. As I said Xbox Live is good but I MS does need to do some major work on it. MS doesn't have a real "Problem" right now. MS knows with each new console you have to come hard with the games and you have to impress the core. Because the core will look at the line up games first and price second (Sometimes). This is what next gen will come down to. 1.) Price 2.) Games 3.) service & User ability.
What they need is let you play for free. I totally understand if they want to offer other services and charge for them. Fine. But I buy a game to play it, not use it to go on facebook . I would seriously consider getting one if online playing was free. I own a console for one reason and one reason only: to GAME. I watch all my movies on solar movie on my PC and never use twitter etc and could not care less about social integration. I am 40 years old and my spare time is women and gaming. I just refuse to spend money on a game to then pay for internet to THEN pay MS money to access online coop and mp.
Very narrow minded comment from an obvious fanboy..... i used to be you and then i got both consoles and a PC !!! You then realise that each platform has it's strengths.... Xbox live has been the premier online service since introduction and sony has had to throw everything like PS+ (which is good) at it to try and compete.....sony having cross game chat with PS4 will really help as it's been the main advantage for live....
Please explain how am I a fanboy?
OMG you read my mind! Never was an Xbox owner. They have never impressed me enough. The only way they can is if they bring out more amazing first party titles like Kameo and Alan Wake.
"Never was an Xbox owner"...."bring out more amazing first party titles like Kameo and Alan Wake. " These are good games indeed. That statement is supported by reviewers. But hoe can you say that for yourself when you never had an Xbox? (Assuming you have no friends of course)
Whatever, most of you that are posting here already have your system of choice (Playstation) in front, so no matter what Microsoft do, it won't matter. I have all the systems but I like my experience with the Xbox 360 because I think Live is better structure than both Sony and Nintendo and is worth $3 a month for it for me. Now, my favorite system is the PS2 from last generation so I can definitely go back to Sony if the PS4 proves to be better. But as of right now, everything is up in the air because Microsoft hasn't shown its cards yet.
If they don't do or say SOMETHING to counter PS3's momentum and PS4's hype they are going to regret it.
Yeh I think as far as core gamers are concerned MS concentrated way too much on Kinect - granted its sold like crazy and fills their pockets but they've neglected us!
I like Forza and Fable series. Good games.
Forza is on a high level but Fable? Fable was casualed down(no skill,boring)-pretty boring.Fable 3 ruined the IP,Fable kinect destroyed it.
True, Fable easy game. But i like Fable 1-3 world atmospheric.
I'm a fable fan. At first i was upset about them going kinect-only with FABLE:THE JOURNEY but when you try it its actually really cool and the story is awesome. Can't. wAit for fable 4
Hurry up with the big reveal.. and make sure it's big..
Sony is here for that. Cant wait to see Kinect 2 (joke inside) :D
lets be honest here, unless MS has something truly spectacular planned here then even the most loyal of fans is not going to be happy. I personally think they've planned well ahead ensuring their is a rich library of stunning software at launch, but what if they haven't and what we get is a little bit limp Another problem I foresee is in the UI and social aspects. It's all so slow and aspects are frankly not user friendly in a way the new Sony one sounds. Have MS been caught with their pants down? I'd rule myself out of the game if MS's next machine proved just a continuation of where it is now regards to it's sluggishness and seeming lack of support for core games I'm not so sure MS understands how much they're disappointing a certain section of fans with some of their decision making and although I think the original base is a shrinking one, the new found casual audience that has grown on all formats is quite fickle I imagine, leaving a smaller yet rock solid core base in danger of giving up on the system I'm amazed and truly very glad MS is where it is currently with xbox doing so well but I'm not sure I want to be part of that if things continue to go downhill regards to the original core values. They need to give full attention to all aspects of what you can do on xbox and not this seemingly one sided one we are seeing now
Agreed. They need to come out swinging. What has happened to Rare is very unfortunate. Once a great developer for Nintendo but Microsoft wasted their talents by not marketing the Xbox brand properly. It was as if they just bought Rare to hurt Nintendo while leaving them out to pasture. They aren't even the same company any longer, just a shell of their original existence. Microsoft needs to come out and be crystal clear of the direction they plan on taking the next Xbox. No smoke and mirrors either. Lay it all out there and show us what you've got.
I agree about Microsoft needing to come out swinging from a gamer's perspective. They need to define their brand and vision more clearly than what is quite clearly jumping on emerging markets. Can you say that MS has a tangible culture in gaming when you compare them to Sony or Nintendo? Sony has the cloud services and social, simple, sharing aspect nailed - That is the future of content distribution whether we want to accept it or not. People are curious about it and it should make a strong impact when it launches. Their exclusives have been on form in terms of bringing down the stigma that "games are just for kids" for a long time now, and the diversity in bringing gamers of all types to their machine has always been a part of their culture. So has the experimentation in motion technology ever since the EyeToy. We all know about Nintendo's culture which is fixed and very defined, so I won't need to go into detail about that. They simply do their own thing and don't care about what others are doing, they just create their own trends in gaming. However they need to be creating more of their own IPs outside what has been recycled for years. MS create some great games and foster developers, but what is their vision outside of wanting to have their console as the living room entertainment hub and be in control of the market and extracting money from wallets every year to keep enjoying entertainment that you already own? That's what I want to see from them at their reveal event or E3. More dedication to core games and new unique IPs and providing more to the consumer: Where is their answer to Zelda, to LittleBigPlanet, to The Last of Us, to God of War and to Shadow of the Colossus? A problem I see, is that Microsoft force people to pay to use their own pre-subscribed bandwidth. If you analyse P2P technology, you'll know what it is, yet Microsoft get away with it because it's "part of the value of the package". The same with adding free services to a premium subscription. How is this a good thing for the industry moving forward? Situations are unlikely to change unless the media machine takes hold and says "enough is enough" or unless gamers say that same thing and refuse to bend. I don't see either of those outcomes, which is why I said it's a big problem, not just for gamers, but for the industry and how it's shifting.
Only things Microsoft have brought to gaming is unreliable hardware, lazy developers who port everything & new ways to milk gamers of their money.
MS needs to step up their game. Sony's gunning hard at the US market (the only market that gives a damn about Xbox) and they're poised to make a huge dent in MS's marketshare.
I see the opposite happening if the rumours on microsoft's next console are true. Sony can kiss goodbye to the US market.
MS has already stepped up their game and proved themselves this gen. Sony is the one that needs to step up their game imo. Sony sold over 100 million PS2's last gen while only hitting roughly 75 million this gen. MS sold roughly 25 million last gen while reaching roughly 75 million this gen. This is irrefutable proof that MS has stepped up their game.
Totally agree ^^^ Sony has done well with the PS4 announcement though and they certainly want to try to regain the market share that they lost this gen..... I hope MS come out swinging and exceed expectations. This would be great for all gamers regardless of system preference as more competition = more money spent on games and services.....
MS will come out guns blazing at E3. The company is very confident, and is just sitting back while other companies like Sony and Nintendo play their hands. They also have a big ace up their sleeve. And the Xbox brand is already dominant in the west. E3 2013 will be the best show in expo history!
no doubt, Microsoft is in this for the long term and will have a very competitive product to satisfy its fans. If the X720 allows me to play my 123 X360 games on it, then I have justified my decision of buying 90% of my games on a Microsoft system this generation. That will be the only megaton I needed. Edit below, yup, I am still playing Jade Dynasty, NFL 2K5, KOTOR, and the original Halo currently on my X360 these days so I don't mind taking my sweet time to finish my huge backlog of current X360 games on the next Xbox. That is how I roll.
You want to play 360 games on your new Xbox? Sums up Xbox fans. Same old shit. You'll probably be playing the same games again.
Not in EU they aren't. US/UK are only markets 360 dominates. EU( in the west) is massively PS dominated
Apple / Android rules in UK / EU. Same in Asia.
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