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Submitted by Erimgard 545d ago | rumor

RUMOR: Activision Upset at Black Ops II Wii U Sales, Says Nintendo Fans Are All Talk

Given that the Wii U has a relatively small install base, no one expected Call of Duty: Black Ops II to sell like hotcakes on the system, but according to indie developer Calvin Hall the sales numbers are much lower than what Activision expected. Hall claims to have met with “an employee for a studio that makes games for Activision” who revealed that Activision is extremely unhappy with the sales of the Wii U port, going as far as to call out Nintendo fans for their hypocrisy. (Activision, Call of Duty: Black Ops 2, Nintendo, Wii U)

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Bumpmapping  +   545d ago | Well said
Damn those are some harsh things to say but hes right Nintendo fans are all talk no walk PS4 FTW.
Root  +   545d ago
They are the worst type of fanboys in my opinion because instead of wanting Nintendo to catch up with the gaming industry they'd rather pretend everything is alright, that Nintendo can live off it's first party stuff and that it's alright for Nintendo to keep doing the same old stuff over and over and over. Theres only so much Mario and Zelda you can take...then they have the cheek to say Nintendo are always "hated" on....gee I wonder why. People are worrying and questioning what Nintendo are doing thats all, it's nothing like the Sony hate this gen where most of it comes out of nowhere.

Seriously....if you can admit it, Nintendo will realize it has to buck their ideas up and will hopefully get better and think out there console better.

They've done with with the handheld recently why can't the same happen to their consoles.
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PopRocks359  +   545d ago | Well said
Wow, someone is unmistakably bitter.

I think I'll stick to liking what I like as oppose to hating anything that doesn't come from my preferred publisher. Worse yet is that your arguments for Sony being hated on are almost identical to mine for Nintendo.

Whatever. I'll just leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

EDIT: The sad thing about the two comments above my own is that they're both from notable Sony fans who have next to nothing positive to say about Nintendo and yet will occasionally or sometimes even frequently visit negative Wii U/Nintendo articles for the simple reason to bring forth the SAME EXACT rhetoric that they consistently brought to similar articles a week or two at the most prior.

You know, if you're free to criticize Nintendo why am I not free to disagree and like what they are doing for what it is? I'm a horrible person simply for agreeing with what Nintendo is currently doing and not with what you think?

At least I don't actively go onto articles and forums involving Sony and Microsoft products and needlessly bash them. I said my piece of the Vita in a few articles and a blog post and even with THAT I've never once outright outed the Vita and have consistently referred to it as a fantastic piece of hardware.

tl;dr

Yeah, I'm so horrible when you're the ones criticizing people for liking stuff and acting like your preferred publisher somehow puts you on a pedestal above fans of Nintendo. You two as gamers really disappoint me.
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pixelsword  +   545d ago
Dear Actvision:

Nintendo fans didn't let you down, you let them down by not breaking the Nintendo matrix. Here's how you do it in a nutshell:

Barbell moustache + Red Technicolor pants = Platinum $ale$!

Seriously though, How about changing it up some instead of being the Police Academy of video games, eh? Nintendo fans are used to creative games and your series is the status quo argument against sequels.
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Kiddcarter  +   545d ago
totally agree with you on the fans attitudes, i have spoken with plenty of Nintendo fan-boys who say "who needs third party when Nintendo devs are the best EVER!!!"

I bought a wii u and actually like the system, there are some nice things about it, that i think devs could take advantage of, but until Nintendo fans actually step up and buy third party, the system will continue to die a slow painful death

by the way, i didnt buy cod on wii u i did buy mario instead, but i didnt cod on my ps3, or xbox 360 either, the game fking sucks, but I did just buy bit trip runner 2 today, and its fun as hell
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Root  +   545d ago | Well said
@Poprocks

Really...bitter. Stating an opinion from my point of view is me being bitter

Face it to you anyone who criticizes Nintendo are either trolls, fanboys, haters, whiners etc because in your eyes Nintendo can't do no wrong. You prove this on ALL Nintendo articles you patrol.

I'm not calling you for liking them, I'm calling people who go around blindly believing that Nintendo aren't doing anything wrong when they are. The Wii U isn't future proof, the one thing they wanted, third party support for core gamers is dropping and it hasn't been out for half a year.

So please don't make stuff up to try and make me look like the bad guy to make yourself look big. I never once hated on you for anything like that. Besides all fanboys are bad in my opinion so it's not like I'm favoring one side over the other.

I mean your whole comment is you being the victim, saying stuff which has never been said. Like I'm hating on your personally.

" I'm a horrible person simply for agreeing with what"

When did I say your were a horrible person for your opinion. Seriously, where you get this stuff from is mind boggling.

"the sad thing about the two comments above my own is that they're both from notable Sony fans"

Again making stuff up

"who have next to nothing positive to say about Nintendo"

And again...

Poprocks just stop it
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PopRocks359  +   545d ago | Intelligent
"Really...bitter. Stating an opinion from my point of view is me being bitter"

Hmm, let's see.

"[Nintendo fans] are the worst type of fanboys in my opinion"

If I rewrote that statement with Sony fans at the head, you honestly think anyone here would find that acceptable? Your reasoning for it is even more offensive.

"because instead of wanting Nintendo to catch up with the gaming industry they'd rather pretend everything is alright"

That sounds to me like you're generalizing Nintendo fanboys and blind enthusiasts into the same category. If your comment is innocent as you claim, then next time word it in such a way where it doesn't sound insulting and asinine to anyone who happens to enjoy Nintendo platforms and games in spite of the constant criticism.

"So please don't make stuff up to try and make me look like the bad guy to make yourself look big."

The same goes for you sir. Now if I've misjudged your intentions then I indeed apologize. But your initial comment gave very little inclination of that. A generalization is a great way to piss someone off and that's precisely what your original post provided.

Not all Nintendo fans are into the Wii U but not all Nintendo fans share the same criticism as, for example, you would. And that does not make fans stupid or blind, it means that they have a different aesthetic view than yours.

Now if someone says the Wii U is selling strongly during a month of 55,000 units sold in the US... then yeah, those people are optimistic to the point of being blind to the truth. Don't don't act like all Nintendo fans are like that. That's far from the truth.

@RememberThe357

You're aware that there were some gamers who supported the Wii U version of Black Ops II, right? I was one of those people. I think it would be great to have more 3rd party support on Wii U. I want to make it my primary console.

Again, kindly don't generalize. Some fans did support the third party launch games.
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RememberThe357  +   545d ago
I have to agree. This is solely on the fans. It's hypocritical to slander Acti for not bring good ports then the moment they bring a good port you leave it like chop liver.

I'm not a fan of Acti, in fact I really don't like them at all, but I'm even less of a fan of hypocrisy. You can't attack a publisher for not bringing good versions to your console then change your argument the moment they do. That's a cop out. You complained about not having the games then you get them and you don't want them.

Enjoy Mario and Zelda, we all will, but don't ask for a game you don't want.

And before anyone comes in talking about, "I never asked for Call of Duty! You PS360 fanboys can keep it!" We're talking about Nintendo fans, plural. You, as a group, not necessarily you, as an individual.

EDIT: @Above (both of you): I think both of you need to chill a second and think about this. Do neither of you see that your both right? Fanboys have a very narrow vision of what is good. We all do it to one degree or an other. But fanboys have an especially annoying disposition that makes them hypocritical. This disposition is called ignorance. You can pick apart each others comments, or you can realize that your bickering over semantics.

EDIT2: @Above (again): Again this conversation is about a group, not individuals. Don't get into that nit-picky stuff with me, it's not worth either of our time.
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-Alpha  +   545d ago | Well said
How can you blame Nintendo fans for not eating COD, when most of you on here wouldn't buy COD to begin with?

There was little reason to expect a Wii U port to sell to Nintendo fans-- they don't play games like COD the same way PS3/360 fans do. To expect all these Wii U owners, who likely already own COD on PS3/360 should they have those consoles, to jump on a stale franchise like COD that usually is aimed at teens and shooter fans is silly.

I also don't get where you get off calling Nintendo fanboys the worst-- all because you yourself can't take anymore Zelda and Mario? Super Mario Galaxy and the last Zelda game are highly regarded, you can undersell them as much as you like, but they are some of the highest rated games out there. How do you get off telling Nintendo fans what to like, or support? NSMBU may be more of a reskin, but again, why would Activision employee here somehow expect that to correlate to better Wii U sales of COD?

You are quick to dismiss PS3 criticism as "coming out of nowhere", but I don't see where all this stuff about Nintendo fanboys being the worst comes from, when we are talking about Activision here. It's like some people just have an axe to grind, and to me, that comment really came out of nowhere.

I get it, Wii U is underpowered, third party support is stumbling, but I don't see how that relates to you guys taking Activision's side. I find it comical this Activision is flipping out over putting effort into a port and it selling poorly. Ironic considering they usually make extremely poor titles (and ports on PS3) that sell like hotcakes.

How are Nintendo fans hypocrites? How do you base the sample you get off the internet to represent the buying patterns in the practical sense? How does one even compare the sales of NSMB to COD? The Nintendo audience is of course going to choose the product that their core market prefers. The hardcore Nintendo supporters will always choose the hardcore Nintendo games much like how I expect you to pick up God of War over a Call of Duty game, no matter how superior it may be. Doesn't mean PS3 fans would stop boasting about a superior version, the internet is always all-talk, but that doesn't mean sales will translate based on how loud people are on the internet
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dedicatedtogamers  +   545d ago
Activision is correct. All through the Wii's lifespan, gamers (and not just die-hard Nintendo fans) cried and moaned that there were no hardcore games. But in reality, they were simply turning their noses up at the hardcore games that WERE on Wii in plain sight. I knew that if Nintendo catered to these same hardcore on the WiiU, the hardcore would verbally praise Nintendo but never actually support the console. Funny how NSMB U is the only WiiU game really moving units and yet that is - supposedly - a casual game.
Root  +   545d ago
@-Alpha

"also don't get where you get off calling Nintendo fanboys the worst"

It's an opinion

Like when someone says they prefer Coke over Pepsi because Pepsi to them tastes like crap. You would get someone saying "Where do you get off saying Pepsi taste like crap" because it's an opinion.

"-- all because YOU can't take anymore Zelda and Mario?"

Your doing what Poprocks has just done, you making something up I never said. I said "theres only so much Mario/Zelda you can take" in general, for all of us, not just Nintendo fans....all gamers. Where did I say I couldn't take or stand them anymore ?

I never ONCE said I couldn't take any more Mario or Zelda games. Not once...

"I don't even get where all of this is coming from, when we are talking about Activision here."

and Nintendo

Were staying on topic, all of us, it's an article about Nintendo, The Wii U, Black Ops/COD and Activision.

"It's like some people just have an axe to grind. I get it, Wii U is underpowered, third party support is stumbling, but I don't see how that relates to you guys taking Activision's side."

No one is taking their side, we just see where they are coming from

One minute we want third party support for the Wii U, mostly from loyal Nintendo fans who have been missing out for the past 6-7 years then when a third party games comes out (good or bad, it's not about COD it's about third party support) they don't buy it and would rather buy New Super Mario Wii U for example which is basicaly a HD version of New Super Mario Bros Wii. So now most of them don't want third party support...they don't care about it. Thats what were talking about

"I'm also curious, Root, how often would you agree with a VITA article or VITA criticism? Or how often would you acknowledge any of the PS3 criticisms at the start of this gen?"

Any gamer can see the Sony hate has come out of nowhere. It's been on going for six years...I'll admit they did have problems, a lot, they were arrogant as hell when they released the PS3 and they learnt their lesson but over the years they've proven themselves, learnt from their mistakes and fixed their problems...yet the hate in the media is fixed, instead of looking at what they are doing now they still think it's 2006/2007

Why do people feel the need to pull things out of thin air in someones comment. I mean seriously most the things you and Poprocks have stated which I've apparently said...I havent or wasn't aimed in "that" way.

I mean this for example

"How are Nintendo fans hypocrites?"

Where did I say ANYONE was a hyrpocrite....Jesus Christ
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MikeMyers  +   545d ago
PopRocks359 and Alpha are correct. We see far too many trolls that keep popping up telling everyone how so and so is doing everything wrong. The question is why do they keep popping up then if they are so unhappy with what they are doing and saying the same rhetoric in multiple topics? There are other options out there.

Nintendo isn't going to win over the Playstation and Xbox crowd overnight. It is Nintendo's job to keep the interest going.
gamer42  +   545d ago
Well in my opinion the Sony fanboys are the worst since they can't make up their FUCKING MIND on how much they care about graphics. In the PS2 gen they were the ones saying that "graphics don't make a game" and "Who needs power when we have (insert mascot of that time)" But when the PS3 came out they turned a 180 and Said that GRAPHICS made a good game now. Sony fanboys would change their own mindset to match with Sony's. I'm not saying there aren't any of these in the ninty fanboys and xbox, but Sony definitely has the most. That's why fanboys like Dylila, and Akuma (Probably the same person) sicken me. All fanboys do. There is hypocrisy in Nintendo fans, but nothing like Sony's.
-Alpha  +   545d ago
Opinions don't mean much if you can't back it up-- there's no sense calling one fanboy group worse than another, I don't understand how you conclude this based off a lack of Black Ops sales.

"No one is taking their side, we just see where they are coming from"

How so? What's the logic of expecting Wii U sales to somehow sell more copies of Black Ops? All because Activision thinks that because they finally put in effort that they expect the general population to jump on board? Yeah, it's well ported, but so what? If the core Nintendo audience doesn't care for COD, a superior port wont change that.

Are you not generalizing what Nintendo fans want (third party support), then telling them off for not supporting COD of all games? How do you feel about PS3 and VITA fans talking about diversity in their games and not supporting All Stars, or Starhawk, or Twisted Metal? By your logic, I keep hearing PS3 fans talk on here about how MS lacks IPs, yet PS3 fans don't even support a lot of these IPs that have seemingly undersold? Do you see the problem with holding the internet fans accountable for the actual sales? Nor do I think it's "all talk" if PS3 fans say "MS Should support more studios, Sony has a great diversity" and fail to support titles like Twisted Metal: fans aren't obligated to follow through like that. I can find pride in Sony supporting smaller IPs and not buy Twisted Metal, much like how Nintendo fans can find pride in a superior COD port, or third party support, yet not feel inclined to personally purchase the product themselves. It's just an overgeneralization of the consumers.

Of course Nintendo fans want third party support-- when it actually comes with the way Activision does it doesn't mean that they suddenly owe Activision any favours. Selling the game to a demographic is more than just appeasing the internet hardcore fans.

Yeah, the NSMB may be a reskin, and Call of Duty isn't? Fact of the matter is that fans vote with their wallet, did you expect Nintendo fans to pick COD over a NSMB? And how do you even think you can compare the two audiences?

"So now most of them don't want third party support...they don't care about it. Thats what were talking about"

All of this over not supporting COD? COD is suddenly the standard for what fans want in third party support? "They" dont care about third party support because they dont support COD?

"Where did I say ANYONE was a hyrpocrite....Jesus Christ" You generally side with Activision here, or at least see their point of view, and as the quote in the article implies, Nintendo fans say one thing and don't follow through. I apologize if it's not what you outright said, but I feel that hypocrisy is generalized when you criticize Nintendo fans for not following through, or double-talking.
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LOL_WUT  +   545d ago
I agree with Activision on this one those certain "fans" talk the talk but, can't walk the walk. The Wii U's overall sales have proven this and when they get called out on it they spin it so it fits their agenda. ;)

#Bitter lol
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AdmiralSnake  +   545d ago
Ahhh double post, my bad
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Root  +   545d ago
@Mike

"PopRocks359 and Alpha are correct. We see far too many trolls that keep popping up telling everyone how so and so is doing everything wrong."

See now your being hypocrite here (what's new) because when dmc was out and fans like myself were discussing our views on it about we didn't like how NT were handling it there was you replying to us as many times as you could bashing our opinions down and how we were wrong. Basically you didn't want to see our opinions on here which differed from yours despite being a free comment site where all opinions are welcomed good and bad.

People aren't "trolls" for worrying and questioning Nintendos actions. If you want real trolls take a gander at those comments that say things like, FOR EXAMPLE, "Nintendo sucks, PS4 for ever" or "Nintendo are the worst company in the world"...that's trolling. You don't seem to understand the difference between a person who is a troll and a person who is stating their opinion on something, an opinion you obviously can't agree on.

"The question is why do they keep popping up then if they are so unhappy with what they are doing"

Mike for the last time, it's a commenting website, where gamers can comment on articles and have discussions, some heated, some where people can all agree, it varies but thats why we have comments. They all can't be one sided can they because people will look like Sheep just agreeing with everyone and will look like they don't have a mind of their own. It's what makes this site interesting....the variety of topics discussed.

"and saying the same rhetoric in multiple topics?"

And saying the same old positive stuff is totally fine. Like again, for example, the dmc articles. You told people off for expressing their opinion but then there's you in all of them saying how you loved the game and were looking forward to it.

It works both ways you know...
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AdmiralSnake  +   545d ago
All fanboys are equally pathetic, end of discussion.
air1  +   545d ago
@root

Nintendo has been around a lot longer than both ms and sony, making it mostly off first party games. just look at how much they sell compared to most third party and sure most of the games are mario zelda etc.. But at the very least nintendo does something new and fresh with the franchise every time, how many first party games can you say that about out side of nintendo? Look at kill zone, the thing is on brand new hardware but the damn thing looked like it plays the same, nothing new but graphics..

I can take much more of mario and zelda thank you very much.. They bring much more to the table than a lot of sony and ms first party games and now that nintendo has the same or more power than the ps3 i cant wait for the next zelda and metroid.

" its not like sony this gen that gets hate from no where" fvcking classic

I dont have a wiiu yet, i cant stand that fvcking name by the way, but i know i will have all 3 or 4 (valve) next gen consoles and will enjoy what they have to offer but i will never think that nintedo needs to rethink what they do all because cod didnt sell as much as acti wanted
wagnus  +   545d ago
In any case, don't blame the gamers for poor sales.
Outside_ofthe_Box  +   545d ago
***"How can you blame Nintendo fans for not eating COD, when most of you on here wouldn't buy COD to begin with?"***

^^This. This is all that needs to be said really, no need to continue on with the "debate."

The reason why Activision said this is because they are scared, can't you see that?

The ALMIGHTY CoD isn't pushing units on a main console platform so they fear that the same may happen for the PS4 and 720. They fear that their almighty franchise may be coming to an end and thus would need to come up with a new big seller. Activision is scared.
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knowyourstuff  +   545d ago
Well hey Activision, you failed to make the Wii U version any better than console versions, did you really think everyone was going to ignore other much better games on the Wii U for the piece of crap you pooped out just because it had the CoD name slapped onto it?
TechnicianTed  +   545d ago
I've got all the consoles, including the Wii U, and a gaming pc, and I don't buy COD on any of my platforms. Because I think COD is a stinking pile of crap.

Where do I fit in with this assumption that Nintendo fans are all talk?
khowat  +   544d ago
Okay you're right, Nintendo does need to think out a better console and they can't live off their first party stuff and they're not getting hated on and whatnot, people are just questioning them and worrying for their future.

The truth is that I'm worried too. The wii u doesn't impress me, it isn't future-proof; it's not even now-proof. Their first-party I think is some of the best in world and really that just comes down to opinion. But seriously, 90% of this website site is always poised to see what nintendo does next and yeah they question what they're doing but hey, it's nintendo. You either like them or hate them and the wii u sucks and is trash and they should just release a new console or give up entirely cause people just don't like them being around, every fucking article turns into wii u q and a between nintendo fans and the rest of the world and we cna't answer all these mind boggling questions (because sometimes they are more like statements) ourselves and maybe nintendo can't either. But what I can do is have faith. Nintendo showed me last gen that you don't need power to survive, you don't need to grow up to still sell games, and that you don't need to be competing with everyone else and force yourself into someone else's market. All I can do is have (sometimes blind and unjustified) faith, and if you don't agree with me well then what can I do?
Imalwaysright  +   544d ago
@ Root. Such hypocrisy. I've seen many PS3 fanboys and many 360 fanboys defending all the crap that Sony and MS have pulled in the last few years. I joined N4g in 2007 and in all those years I wondered how anyone that is supposed to be a "fan" defends what in the "real world" would be considered a negative thing. In my mind a "fan" should want their system of choice to be better, not worst but its like the fanboys want their system of choice to be worst. Anyone saying that Nintendo fanboys are any different than PS3/360 fanboys is full of shit.
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MikeMyers  +   544d ago
gamer42,
"Well in my opinion the Sony fanboys are the worst since they can't make up their #### on how much they care about graphics."

We need to get away from generalizing things. All fanboys are often not taken seriously, not just Sony ones. What I will say is we had a huge feud last generation between the Xbox and Playstation camps all solely because the systems were competing so hard with one another. At the end of the day it was pretty much a wash between the Xbox 360 and PS3 and the technical advances of the PS3 wasn't nearly as relevant as some will have you believe. It is sad to see prior to this next generation even to begin we are seeing it happen all over again.

Alpha,
"Of course Nintendo fans want third party support-- when it actually comes with the way Activision does it doesn't mean that they suddenly owe Activision any favours. Selling the game to a demographic is more than just appeasing the internet hardcore fans."

This is very true. We keep seeing this clash between the hardcore gamers on the forums and the general public. Root is a perfect example of one who will voice his opinion over and over again about games like DMC or Tomb Raider and how they are not true to their roots. So he wants everyone to support his activist habits of boycotting those titles to send some sort of message. How hardcore can one person be where how fun the game may actually be is no longer relevant? The general public doesn't get involved with all of this stuff, they just want games to entertain them.

Root,
"See now your being hypocrite here (what's new) because when dmc was out and fans like myself were discussing our views on it about we didn't like how NT were handling it there was you replying to us as many times as you could bashing our opinions down and how we were wrong. Basically you didn't want to see our opinions on here which differed from yours despite being a free comment site where all opinions are welcomed good and bad."

Not true. I already said in the past your worries about DMC were valid. It was your approach that was questionable. You kept trying to overshadow anyone who liked the game with your endless comments. You also questioned the integrity of the reviews because they went against your belief it wasn't a good game. You had an agenda and were not willing to let it go. That's what people call hardcore.

Root,
"People aren't "trolls" for worrying and questioning Nintendos actions. If you want real trolls take a gander at those comments that say things like, FOR EXAMPLE, "Nintendo sucks, PS4 for ever" or "Nintendo are the worst company in the world"...that's trolling. You don't seem to understand the difference between a person who is a troll and a person who is stating their opinion on something, an opinion you obviously can't agree on."

It is you who doesn't understand the negativity you persist onto others. You continue to clash with anyone who actually enjoys something that you have set out to want change from. You want every developer to be like Naughty Dog and every company to look at gaming from Sony's point of view.
MikeMyers  +   544d ago
Root,
"Mike for the last time, it's a commenting website, where gamers can comment on articles and have discussions, some heated, some where people can all agree, it varies but thats why we have comments. They all can't be one sided can they because people will look like Sheep just agreeing with everyone and will look like they don't have a mind of their own. It's what makes this site interesting....the variety of topics discussed."

You're right, it is a commenting site. One where we expect multiple views on things. But we have to do it in a respectful manner. Calling people PR spokesman because they like Dead Space 3 and you have a bone to pick with EA isn't respectful. Calling people sheep for enjoying DMC isn't respectful either is it? Telling people I should be banned because I question your approach isn't very respectful either is it? The fact is you don't have any respect for anyone who doesn't share your ideologies. Even going as far as arguing with moderators because you also never take any accountability for your own actions.

Plus when you keep posting in every article downplaying any positive review on games you don't want to do well goes well beyond this place being a commenting site. Give your opinion, that's what this site is about. We want to hear different views. Just do it in a respectful way. Saying Nintendo fanboys are the worst is not a good start.

Root,
"People are worrying and questioning what Nintendo are doing thats all, it's nothing like the Sony hate this gen where most of it comes out of nowhere."

See, always some form of conspiracy because of your bias with Sony.
DonFreezer  +   544d ago
The worst bunch of them are Sony ones and it will not change in 20 years from now.
KillrateOmega  +   544d ago
I just got done reading through the first few strings of comments. Apparently there are a LOT of butthurt Nintendo fans. Jeez...

There is nothing wrong with questioning Nintendo's decisions concerning the Wii U as of late. It's simply not doing very well atm and their intended third party support is lackluster. They need to bring something truly exciting to the table in order to turn things around.

Questioning them is quite justifiable at this current point in time.
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Mainsqueeze  +   544d ago
Haha am I the only one here that thinks the guys above have way too much free time?
Tvensky  +   544d ago
wow, this is the longest conversation I ever read on N4G! Pleas keep it short and simple!!! Too much information! :)

And about COD, its about time! Who would expect?
Stroke666  +   544d ago
I own a wii u, the only first party game I own is the nintendo land that came with my system, all of my other games are third party or indie. I not own black ops cause i do not like that particular franchise. the fans here complaining about ports do want them and do buy them. what gets over looked is most people own more than one system, if you like bo2 then chances are you are gonna go online and play with a bunch of people so in that respect would you buy it for your wii u with a 3mil installation, or your ps360 with 70mil+ installation. people did buy it for wii u however not many were impressed by it. its not the greatest port, they simply did not make it up to par to really be on a next gen system. granted it was a launch title and they are learning the wii u architecture, but they shouldn't come out with such harsh words within the first three months of the system life and based on a single game. their other games have faired well on the system but when their golden ticket doesn't come through they gotta lash out at the install base. no the nintendo install base does not want half-ass ports and the numbers prove it. i hope for the cod fans that their next game they put more than half an effort into it then i magine the sales on the game would go up, i still wouldnt buy it but i'm more than sure many would. no publishers and devs should not be rewarded for halfhearted efforts so they should retract their statements suck it up and do better next time.
antiriad  +   544d ago
You are right :They are the worst pretenders.
First they cry out for 3rd parties,than they ignore them(neither buying Batman,AC nor COD) than they cry out because of Rayman; unleashing a huge shitstorm because of the delay and bashing Ubi Soft-But reality is:They wouldn"t have bought this game.They wouldn"t have played this game even if you give it them for free.(rayman sold 250K on 3ds,Mario more than 5 mio=1:20 ratio.)
How many of them would have bought Rayman for WiiU? less than 20K because they are right now playing Mario and there is no need for another Jump And Run(and never will for Nintendo fanboys as long as a Jump "n" Run is not starring Mario)
Now the fanboys will return to their old habbits=pretending :EA is evil,you don"t need good graphics.(and I still can"t understand why they haven"t stopped buyning consoles since NES as they insist that don"t care about graphics.But maybe that"s the reason why the Nintendo Talinban isn"t busing the Wii U-they really don"t care about graphics and continue playing NES)
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TAURUS-555  +   544d ago
nintendo fans want a new shooter: Mario Ops
ThanatosDMC  +   544d ago
Damn, i was hoping Root and PopRocks were gonna keep going at it... but too many combo breakers in the middle that got in the way. Maybe next time...

I was really entertained too...
classic200  +   545d ago | Well said
I personally think activision still don't realize that many core gamers don't buy COD anymore lol. The gamers who buy COD on playstation are likely to be the guy who just own the playstation to play games without even knowing the quality of other games, he buy COD games because of the hype, but right now on the Wiiu there are a little amount of these types of gamers so it won't sell.

Right now playstation, PC and nintendo core gamers who know quality games are not the ones buying COD but I know for sure that its just the random gamer who just care about the hype keeps buying these games with the regular casuals.

Xbox is a different story though I personally think the online community of COD players speak for it self.
juandren  +   545d ago
Wait wtf are you even saying?
animegamingnerd  +   545d ago
@juandren he said cod is for casuals which is true
nosferatuzodd  +   545d ago
classic200 thank you
bubbles for you sir well said
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mcstorm  +   544d ago
Classic200 I agree what your saying but if you do the maths Sony and Microsoft have sold around 77 million consoles each and the game sells around 10 million in its first year on both. The Wiiu has 3 million consoles sold and cod has sold around 100 thousand copy's I think so if you do the maths its sold very well.

People will not buy a Wiiu for cod its as simple as that most people who have a Wiiu will of got it for Nintendo land mariou and zombie.

I have cod on the Wiiu as I wanted to see what a fps game was like on the console and using the Wiiu controller and pro controller and I've been impressed with both. IM not the biggest cod fan but I am finding playing Bo mp for an hour or so fun and a few of my mates and family members who play cod a lot on the ps3 and 360 have said it works well on the Wiiu to.

If AV are complaining about the sales they really need to look at the sales compared to how many wiiu consoles are in peoples homes and then be happy.
Knight_Crawler  +   545d ago
Call of Duty number 1 selling game and most played on the PS3 and 360 but not best selling game on the Wii U.

Does this mean that Wii U gamers are smarter gamers because they wont buy Actvision cash cow or maybe Wii U gamers are not shooter junkies like PS3 and 360 gamers.

Bobby Kotic is home swimming in his pool full of money thanks to 360 and PS3 gamers...hopefully you PS4 and 720 gamers can help Bobby Kotic build a second pool full of money by making Call of Duty the no 1 selling game next gen.

Dont buy this COD BS and dont fall into the hype Wii U gamers.
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Sephiroushin  +   545d ago
The best selling game on PS3 is called Gran Turismo 5 not COD.
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aquamala  +   545d ago
Best selling PS3 games

CoD MW3 12.62 mil
CoD Black Ops 11.86 mil
Cod MW2 10.12 mil
Cod Black Ops 2 9.68 mil

GTA 4 9.63 mil
Gran Turismo 5 9.63mil
Cupid_Viper_3  +   545d ago
No the best selling game on the PS3 is not Gran Turismo 5. GT is Number 6 on that list though which is pretty high given that it's not a shooter.
Kiddcarter  +   545d ago
Wow, im not a cod fan, but to say people who are fans of cod are shooter junkies and unsmart gamers is ignorant, sounds like you are a little bit booty hurt over people not flocking to the wii u, people like what they like, if its cod fine, if its not fine, but to rant and whine like you did in your post is exactly why people think Nintendo fan boy are the worst ones around, and the mii verse is full of people just like you who are quick to call names soon as someone says something other than "Nintendo is great!"

all in all, the Wii u is a good system that is suffering from what also plagues the vita at this time, people aren't buy the system because there's a lack of good games, first and third party, and devs aren't making games because people aren't buying them because they don't have the system.

Hopefully things turn around for Nintendo, because i like all 3 companies and want all of them to succeed, i do like Sony the most i admit, but I hope Nintendo turns it around, but they need their fans help too, i understand if you don't want to buy cod because it isn't your thing, but look at the numbers, none of the wii u third party games are selling well, I doubt activision is the only third party mad at Nintendo fans right now
BrianC6234  +   544d ago
Nintendo gamers are far from smart. You keep buying the same games over and over every generation. All Nintendo does is put out the same games every generation. So boring.
antiriad  +   544d ago
@brian C
Well,buying the same games for decades again and again.I guess that"s what Nintendo Gamers call Innovation.
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thehitman  +   545d ago
Did they really think nintendo fans would change overnight? Will take a few years before nintendo breaks out of the mario/zelda etc only phase and people realize they can buy multiplats for nitendo systems as well. Or actually with next-gen starting this year they may be left in the cold again.
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donman1  +   545d ago
If these reports are true then its a bit ridiculous to have high expectations that a franchise that sells like hot cakes on Xbox360 then second on PS3 will sell well on a new gaming consoles as the Wii U. Many earlier adapters of the Wii U also own a PS3 or Xbox360 ( I am one of them) so naturally they will gravitate to getting for the PS3/360 first.

An overwhelming majority of fans of this franchise plays it on the established platforms where the larger communities online are. Plus the Wii U version is a direct port, missing a very popular map and has a tacked on WiiPad functionality. Activision needs to shut up and move on.
Mounce  +   545d ago
Minus the Playstation Fanboyism from you bumpmapping.

I find it hilarious, but it's infact true, first time Activision would be right...

Nintendo fans are all bark and no bite.

The only exclusion are the brave souls at Starmen.net :3
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U-oh... He attacked the fans for not liking his generic game?? I would actually say good job to nintendo fans!! Good work.

But honesty this is not good EA and Activision not liking wiiU?? Oh boy.

I am not sure what nintendo is doing they seem quiet lately.

I am not a wiiU hater But nintendo can and should do better. I still want zelda and mario but ps4 is looking sexy..
ALLWRONG  +   545d ago
I got removed for trolling for asking an actual question but these comments gets to stay?
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nosferatuzodd  +   545d ago
Did you guys read the comments under that story? the nintendo fanboys are cursing the hell out of activision they claimed the game doen't match up to nintendo first party.
Mediocre games like that should stay on ps3 and 360 lol
saint_seya  +   545d ago
Well at this point if Nintendo fans keep sending this msgs to devs, trust me, most of the games will stay on playstation or xbox, because when i high end selling tittle as cod doesnt sell #im not a fan of cod either# the other devs will see that as a bad sign and may think twice before making games for Wii U.
Not bashing the Wii U, not saying that not liking cod is bad, but high selling titles are used sometimes to see if a console is good to sell your games or not.
(this is only my point of view, ofc i may be wrong, but its the way i see it)
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showtimefolks  +   545d ago
SNES was really the last system that really sold third party games.

what's new? release a mario game and it will sell release anything else and it won't simple as that

when the biggest game in the industry can't sell, you have issues

that's why wiiu will only have great exclusives and most other crappy ports. The day ps4 and next xbox gets on the shelf people will forget about wiiu

and don't blame the fans as much as nintendo and their confusing message, many don't even know what wiiu is? why call it wiiu when you can call it wiiHD or wii2.
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BrianC6234  +   544d ago
The people who keep buying Nintendo's garbage are to blame. Why waste your money on a Nintendo console? The first party games are always the same. They just look a little better each generation. Nintendo is the one that likes to milk franchises. Someone on here said Activision milks the COD franchise and that's why gamers aren't buying it on the Wii U. That's Nintendo for you though.
live2play  +   545d ago
youre kidding me right????

ps all stars omg better than smash! awesome game best game evarrr!!!
then no one buys it

wooo vita is so great so powerful 3DS is weak!!!
then no one buys vita

woooo little big planet karting MARIO KART KILLER!! way better
then no one buys it

wooo ps3 looks so powerful woooo brst console evar!!!
then 599 USD... no one buys it
Qrphe  +   545d ago
"then 599 USD... no one buys it"

It's like a 2008 pseudo troll machine!
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pedroyamato  +   545d ago
If nintendo fans are all trash talk then why ps3 has a 80 millions base and vita is selling terrible poor?

Btw, did you get a vita, big mouth?
BrianC6234  +   544d ago
That makes no sense at all. Everyone who buys a PS3 has to buy a Vita? I have both but I don't see why everyone has to buy a Vita.
IAmLee  +   545d ago
IMO I don't think its anything to do with fans, I think its the fact that they're milking this franchise for everything it's worth.

There's only so much you can milk a cow before it becomes animal cruelty.
OmegaSlayer  +   545d ago
This is what is going on with Nintendo from the Nintendo64 era.
If I were a publisher I would never allow my developers to get involved with a Nintendo home console.
DonFreezer  +   544d ago
How the f*** does this get marked as well said.Really we knew moderators were Sony fanboys but we didn't knew how much.
Old McGroin  +   544d ago
100% agreed, Well Said.
darkziosj  +   544d ago
lol all the agrees to that stupid fanboy commet N4G alright.
BrianC6234  +   544d ago
Nintendo gamers mostly just care about Nintendo games. Then they wonder why they get such crappy ports of third party games. The third party developers should waste much time making Wii U games in the future anyway. Just make real next generation games. I knew the 2GB of RAM Nintendo put in the Wii U was going to be a mistake. The Wii U definitely won't be able to compare to the PS4.
WiiUsauce  +   544d ago
it's not all Nintendo fans. I have 10 games for my Wii U and only THREE are first party, and one was a system pack in (Nintendo Land, the other was only published by Nintendo (Ninja Gaiden). I supported THQ when I bought Darksiders II at launch, supported SEGA, because I bought Sonic and Allstars Racing Transformed. I supported EA, because I bought Mass Effect 3 (and I will be buying NFS Most Wanted on the 19th). I supported WB Games, because I bought Arkham City Armored Edition, I supported Activision, because I bought CoD Black Ops II, I supported Namco Bandai, because I bought Tekken Tag 2. And all in the span of 2 months of owning the system. I've never bought this many games for a new piece of hardware two months into owning it.

And I follow a lot of youtubers who also bought CoD on Wii U.
Old McGroin  +   544d ago
"Damn those are some harsh things to say but hes right Nintendo fans are all talk no walk PS4 FTW."

@ Bumpmapping

How the hell did you get a Well Said for your blatant trolling? Judging by your bubble count I'd have to say you're all talk and no walk troll. I have a PS3, 360 and a Wii U and didn't buy BLOPS 2 simply because I wised up this year and refuse to buy the same FPS every single year. Activision are all talk and no walk.
lizard81288  +   544d ago
Maybe Nintendo fans are really boycotting their games
lol, but from what I heard, Acti didn't release any DLC for the Wiiu version, which is what people wanted with the zombie mode, but that wasn't available for the wiiu version.
KillerBBs  +   542d ago
Rumors have it: users are upset with activision for putting out another title with horrible hit detection.
Activision: eat a D!k
NYC_Gamer  +   545d ago
Nintendo fans don't buy third party software
legendoflex  +   545d ago
Well, they DID buy third party software. For example, 7 of the top 20 SNES games were third-party. Then third parties consciously chose to shift a large amount of support for certain demographics to other platforms (PlayStation)... and now keep running into the "this demographic isn't here" problem.
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Erimgard  +   545d ago
Yeah, SNES was really the last system that really sold third party games unfortunately.
fatstarr  +   545d ago
well we got shitted on during the game cube era

then the wii 3rd party support, just = disrespectful they tried to feed us garbage and straight up shit . Nintendo fans are some of the smartest consumers, its a blessing and a curse. they know better than to support activision and mr kotick.

wii u is at 3.1million world wide and blackops sold at 170k so far according to vg chartz

its low but who wants to buy a game whos hype dies the day after its released...
ozstar  +   545d ago
And now 3rd party support has shifted to MS in America and PS3 in japan.
phantomexe  +   545d ago
A little early to say that don't you think.....i sometimes wonder how you and logicwins end up with so many bubbles. What you say we give it a year and then if this is true, will call it. Heck i won't buy call of duty for my ps3. Look how well zombiU did and it's 3rd party. AC3 was released later so counting it seems pointless being it released later on WiiU. Whats the systems install base at 3mil? Give it time before you judge it. Its not the same as the wii.
AO1JMM  +   545d ago
I do.....
just-joe  +   545d ago
Correction, they don't buy crappy 3rd party ports.
classic200  +   545d ago
Wiiu is selling at a loss so I think nintendo gamers should support many third party games so nintendo can get money. Third party is just as important as first party games unless nintendo can release exclusives non stop which is not possible.
TechnicianTed  +   545d ago
People are not going to buy games that they aren't interested in just to 'support' Activision.

I can think of better companies to support than Activision.
roshi1987  +   544d ago
The least sense ever made on N4G, right here.
Yodagamer  +   545d ago
Heck i have more third party than first party on all my nintendo consoles, most of them really good titles.
Studio-YaMi  +   545d ago
They do,not as much as they buy First party exclusives though & most of them don't like military FPS games like COD or Battlefield.

@fatstarr
"Nintendo fans are some of the smartest consumers"

LOL ! keep feeding yourself that mumbo jumbo and maybe you'll feel happy one day. xD

#Delusional_much
Dgander  +   545d ago
Sony fans ONLY buy third party software (mainly COD). They only brag about those "exclusives" and in reality hardly anyone that owns a PS3 cares about them. If you accept that Ninty fans dont buy 3rd party software im sure you can also accept the fact that PS3 is a COD console. Numbers dont lie.
GuyManDude  +   545d ago
I obviously don't speak for everyone (and I know you're not either), but I just wanted to throw out that 36 of the 54 games I own on PS3 are PS3-exclusive. That comes out to 2 out of 3.

I bought COD4, played a ton of it in college, then sold it to a friend. Haven't bought a COD game since.
Dgander  +   544d ago
I like all the disagrees i got. Numbers dont lie cause all the COD games are the highest selling games on PS3. Exclusives dont sell well which is why Sony always have to BUNDLE (give them away) them with consoles. Its like they are force feeding them to you. I can accept the numbers for the Wii U, why cant the numerous fanboys on this site accept the numbers for their precious PS3? Obviously biased....
lilbroRx  +   545d ago
They do when its good. Most "good" third party games made a profit on the Wii.
yewles1  +   545d ago
Ouch...
EcoSos3  +   545d ago
The only reason i bought this game was because it was the only game that would have people playing online, once monster hunter comes out its going in trade-in.
Erimgard  +   545d ago
Monster Hunter should have a bigger online community too, seeing as they just announced that a patch is on the way that will make servers no longer region-locked.
PFFT  +   545d ago
Exactly!! I cant wait for Monster Hunter. Capcom for once is listening to its fans by bringing out that patch. I wonder if we can make them release the game a week earlier....???
Deku-Johnny  +   545d ago
Exactly, I don't think FPS games will ever do very well on a Nintendo console. Two of the most popular games on the Wii were Xenoblade Chronicles and Skyward Sword, I think that just shows that Nintendo gamers are more fans of RPG/adventure games than they are shooters.
gamer42  +   545d ago
I'm not sure about that there are other FPSs other than COD, like Bioshock, Halflife, and Conduit and they seem pretty much match into the nintendo fan good game requirements:
Good Gameplay
Good Story
Good Creativity
Decent Graphics
Anyways there was a rumor that Miyamoto's next IP was going to be a FPS
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Studio-YaMi  +   545d ago
Metroid prime was a FPS,the conduit,red steel & golden eye 007 are also FPS games that nintendo fans bought.

I think nintendo fans just don't like military shooters like the COD games.
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Qrphe  +   545d ago
@Studio

Red Steel 2 sales were the reason there was no Red Steel Steel 3. The Conduit sales were disappointing to Sega, specially the sequel.

@exfatal

Monster Hunter usually sells better in Japan, the Wii U port has sold around 200,000 units to date over there so don't expect wrecking numbers (I wish it would though).
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roshi1987  +   544d ago
Sorry dude, I love Xenoblade, but it sold less than 1M wordwide. It isnt popular at all.

Popular among a niche maybe.
exfatal  +   545d ago
Nintendo fans dont buy 3rd party? we'll see about that once monster hunter Ultimate hits shelves. Maybe its more that nintendo fans don't care for the fps as much as they'd hope?
PFFT  +   545d ago
Well its kinda hard for this game to appeal to anyone in the Wiiu. No DLC and always being the last platform to receive any type of patch. In order for us as Wii u gamers to support your titles you have to stop leaving us as an after thought and focus on bettering the game on this platform.
Erimgard  +   545d ago
I find this to be especially true with Mass Effect 3. No Trilogy Edition for Wii U. No DLC for Wii U. But they say they're going to base their future support of the system on the game's sales...not really a fair look.
legendoflex  +   545d ago
Too bad, because Mass Effect 3's Wii U port is freaking excellent and demonstrates the kind of attention third-parties SHOULD give to the system on the development side (apart from the DLC issue).
Baka-akaB  +   545d ago
excellent ? Vastly exagerated . The game didnt run worse than with other platforms , wich is nice , but it didnt run better either .

The map is useless as you mostly get across long stretchs of corridors . And positioning and using the teamates with the pad is a gimmick barely working with the game .

Of course as a rather straight port and launch title , it's not at fault but hardly stellar either
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ApolloTheBoss  +   545d ago
Activision mad, lol
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   545d ago
No one bought a Wii-U to play Black Ops 2 it's that simple.
mistertwoturbo  +   545d ago
That and the fact that there's a 140million install base of 360/PS3 gamers that already bought it.
HarryMasonHerpderp  +   545d ago
Exactly.
Ricdog  +   545d ago
Its a self hating circle.

Nintendo fans blame third party developers because they don't support the Wii U version as much as the other systems. Third party developers blame the Nintendo fans for not buying their games, thus why they won't make more. SOOOOO who's at fault???

Third party wont make Nintendo games cause they won't sell. Nintendo fans dont buy because third party developers won't make. Its a self defeating circle.
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Ricdog  +   545d ago
Its a self hating circle.

Nintendo fans blame third party developers because they don't support the Wii U version as much as the other systems. Third party developers blame the Nintendo fans for not buying their games, thus why they won't make more. SOOOOO hows at fault???

Third party wont make Nintendo games cause they won't sell. Nintendo fans dont buy because third party developers won't make. Its a self defeating circle.
Ricdog  +   545d ago
ooops sorry, didnt mean to double post the same message.
smashcrashbash  +   545d ago
Okay that is true to some extent. I think it might be a little to early to claim this but recently Nintendo people don't seem to be concerned about third parties on their systems. I mean not many third parties reached the level of their PS3 and Xbox 360 counterparts when they were put on the Wii and most of their third parties never reached the level of their first party games.I know people will jump to disagree but I think we already knew Black Ops wasn't going to pull any big numbers on the Wii U no matter how long we waited.I mean be truthful and forget fanboyism. Did anyone really think that games like Bayonetta 2 for example is going to sell big on the Wii U alone? Truthfully.
Jek_Porkins  +   545d ago
I kind of doubt this, mainly because it was a launch title. Now if they release the next COD on an established Wii U and it tanks, they might have a point.

I think it has potential, but to be honest, without an Achievement system I'm not buying many third part multiplatform games on the Wii U.
Theyellowflash30  +   545d ago
Nintendo seriously needs an achievement system. I've emailed this to Nintendo over and over. They need to have a rebranding at E3. Fast OS, Achievement System, better promotion and marketing.

But I still think Nintendo will be fine. They have the games, they just need to get them out!
Deku-Johnny  +   545d ago
It's not that Nintendo fans are all talk or that they don't like/don't want to buy 3rd party games. It's that they don't want to buy shit games.
madjedi  +   544d ago
Funny how many solid third party wii games did horrible sales despite a roughly 100 million install base.

You remember that list of games wii owners would always trot out, when anyone called the wii as casual console or said it had no good games.

The real issue isn't blops 2 not selling well on the wii u, it's nintendo fans tendency to turn their nose up at any game, not developed by nintendo.

This is a known issue with nintendo's fanbase, not so with sony and ms's fanbase.
SDF Repellent  +   545d ago
It is OK, as long as a Zelda, Metroid, and a sequel to Xenoblade Saga is in the work, I can care less about third party games on the Wii U. My X720 and PS4 will do that.
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nevin1  +   545d ago
Nintendo and 3rd Party?

lol. Maybe in the SNES days.

But who is to blame for this?
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bigbearsack  +   545d ago
How many times can someone buy the same game? Most folks who have a wii u , have a ps3 or xbox, and probably own it on that system.
banditscout  +   545d ago
Previous Call of Duty games sold fairly well on the Wii, no? I think one of the major issues (in addition to a lack of new software) plaguing the Wii U is the lack of an install base. It's just not there yet. Nintendo has some brilliant minds, but I can't help but feel like some of their ideals are getting lost in translation.
gk07  +   545d ago
I got black ops for wii u i like it but i play on pc mostly gamepad is awesome tho

Go hawks
Rayko  +   545d ago
Activision is destroying the fun out of gaming industry. It is rather boring throwing grenades and taking cover over and over again. Look at what it did to Resident Evil franchise.

I hope activision will go down forever, togheter with smarthphone games. Those two are a bad disease for the future of gaming.
Qrphe  +   545d ago
They're just catering to an audience that responds well to them. If it wasn't Activision there'd be someone else selling some CoD-sort-of-game. If anything blame the consumer.
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pandaboy  +   545d ago
nintendo fanboys have been all talk for the past 20 years.
Theyellowflash30  +   545d ago
Were were the Sony fans to support StarHawk and PlayStation All Stars? Both games bombed for Sony.
PFFT  +   544d ago
They were too busy trolling in N4G that they forgot about those games.
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RFornillos4  +   545d ago
not really a fair judgment. first off, COD Black Ops II came out later on the Wii U, oh yeah the date difference was not much. not to mention most people who were interested with the Wii U version had to re-think whether they should get it on Wii U or the other platforms where most of their friends are gonna be.

the reality is, this is a matter of a smaller install base, coupled with early launch woes (later release dates compared to others, DLC releases are not same with others). not to mention that lately COD has been just a fairly mediocre FPS for me, at most above average.

don't get me wrong, I've loved COD since the moment I laid eyes on the original PC version. to me, COD and Medal of Honor were the best FPS then (the first ones). then MOH became crappy. COD, although Treyarch's added some new elements seem to going the same route, but yet I'm still hopeful.
madduey  +   545d ago
Let me just put this out there.. Most of the wii audience is casual yes there are a small % of hard core gamers but they're more than likely going to own a PS3 and/or XBOX360 so even if an even smaller % of the Wii core gamer upgrade to a WiiU they probably already have a PS3/360 copy of Blackops bare in mind that most of their friends probably don't own a WiiU so of course they're going to buy it for the platform all their friends are on some times that's reason enough alone to choose one console over the other! To game online with your mates!...
Don't know what kinda numbers they had in mind but the need to keep shit real!!
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shivvy24  +   545d ago
i didnt buy BO2 and i have a PS3 and a PC ! my money never goes to recycled games
KillerPwned  +   545d ago
Wii U seriously just released lets move on.....love it or hate it don't matter. I on the other hand learn to love all from what gaming has to offer not just from one hardware company.

Plus an article like this on N4G is gonna be spewed with hate comments. No matter the system on this site for the coming months most of it is all hate.
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TruthbeTold  +   545d ago
I don't buy CoD for my 360 or PS3. I don't particularly enjoy them outside of an occasional Zombies night at friends houses. So why would I buy one for my Wii U? There are all manner of 3rd party games that I have bought and am more than willing to buy on Nintendo consoles. CoD, or really just about anything Activision for that matter don't impress me. If they stick it out with the Wii U, I'll keep listening, but it will have to be something new and solid as opposed to a game that's on every other system out there (which my friends are currently on).

What did they expect? Even bringing CoD out a week late like they did probably hurt the sales a lot. It probably caused a large number of gamers who already had a PS360 to just get it on those and wait on the Wii U.
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CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   545d ago
The Problem is...

If they are not giving better graphics, there is nothing to draw a CORE crowd from their Friends on X-Box Live, PC, and PSN.

Most people have a Wii and a X-box or PS3 and they played the big games on other systems not the Wii version.

So, why expect all 3 Million people, who bought WiiU, to be the type of gamer that likes AAA FPS?

Also, they are all banking on instant gratification.
Wii was not liked by the CORE- but by Casuals, Gamers, an Nintendo Fans.

The point of the WiiU is to get the Core and that is going to take a while.
Minato-Namikaze  +   545d ago
Problem is why will the core buy the wii-u when the PS4 and 720 are coming (hopefully the next-box is a core system).
CouldHaveYelledUiiW  +   545d ago
Fair point. (I Agreed with you)

All I can think is that Retro needs to create something CORE-Styled with a beloved Nintendo Franchise (Samus).

If they make something that looks and sound Core- that has Multi player/Online play to build the WiiU/MiiVerse community- that could make the difference.

And another reason would be if the PS4 and 720 are too expensive for the current market.
Theyellowflash30  +   545d ago
Why should I buy the Xbox 720 and pay for online, a dashboard with ads, no first party support other than Halo, Gears, and Forza, a crap-ton of Kinect games, and potentially faulty hardware after the RROD fiasco.

The Wii U will do just fine. When the their core games come out. Xenoblade 2, Zelda, 3D Mario, Bayonetta, Pikmin 3, The Wonderful 101 are all for core gamers. So I can see more people picking up the Wii U when those games come out.
KuroiTori  +   544d ago
@Theyellowflash30

I wish I could agree with you, problem is, we have heard little to nothing about the 720. You know what they say about people who assume...
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