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RUMOR: Activision Upset at Black Ops II Wii U Sales, Says Nintendo Fans Are All Talk

Given that the Wii U has a relatively small install base, no one expected Call of Duty: Black Ops II to sell like hotcakes on the system, but according to indie developer Calvin Hall the sales numbers are much lower than what Activision expected. Hall claims to have met with “an employee for a studio that makes games for Activision” who revealed that Activision is extremely unhappy with the sales of the Wii U port, going as far as to call out Nintendo fans for their hypocrisy.

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Bumpmapping1630d ago

Damn those are some harsh things to say but hes right Nintendo fans are all talk no walk PS4 FTW.

Root1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

They are the worst type of fanboys in my opinion because instead of wanting Nintendo to catch up with the gaming industry they'd rather pretend everything is alright, that Nintendo can live off it's first party stuff and that it's alright for Nintendo to keep doing the same old stuff over and over and over. Theres only so much Mario and Zelda you can take...then they have the cheek to say Nintendo are always "hated" on....gee I wonder why. People are worrying and questioning what Nintendo are doing thats all, it's nothing like the Sony hate this gen where most of it comes out of nowhere.

Seriously....if you can admit it, Nintendo will realize it has to buck their ideas up and will hopefully get better and think out there console better.

They've done with with the handheld recently why can't the same happen to their consoles.

PopRocks3591630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

Wow, someone is unmistakably bitter.

I think I'll stick to liking what I like as oppose to hating anything that doesn't come from my preferred publisher. Worse yet is that your arguments for Sony being hated on are almost identical to mine for Nintendo.

Whatever. I'll just leave this here.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

EDIT: The sad thing about the two comments above my own is that they're both from notable Sony fans who have next to nothing positive to say about Nintendo and yet will occasionally or sometimes even frequently visit negative Wii U/Nintendo articles for the simple reason to bring forth the SAME EXACT rhetoric that they consistently brought to similar articles a week or two at the most prior.

You know, if you're free to criticize Nintendo why am I not free to disagree and like what they are doing for what it is? I'm a horrible person simply for agreeing with what Nintendo is currently doing and not with what you think?

At least I don't actively go onto articles and forums involving Sony and Microsoft products and needlessly bash them. I said my piece of the Vita in a few articles and a blog post and even with THAT I've never once outright outed the Vita and have consistently referred to it as a fantastic piece of hardware.

tl;dr

Yeah, I'm so horrible when you're the ones criticizing people for liking stuff and acting like your preferred publisher somehow puts you on a pedestal above fans of Nintendo. You two as gamers really disappoint me.

pixelsword1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

Dear Actvision:

Nintendo fans didn't let you down, you let them down by not breaking the Nintendo matrix. Here's how you do it in a nutshell:

Barbell moustache + Red Technicolor pants = Platinum $ale$!

Seriously though, How about changing it up some instead of being the Police Academy of video games, eh? Nintendo fans are used to creative games and your series is the status quo argument against sequels.

Kiddcarter1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

totally agree with you on the fans attitudes, i have spoken with plenty of Nintendo fan-boys who say "who needs third party when Nintendo devs are the best EVER!!!"

I bought a wii u and actually like the system, there are some nice things about it, that i think devs could take advantage of, but until Nintendo fans actually step up and buy third party, the system will continue to die a slow painful death

by the way, i didnt buy cod on wii u i did buy mario instead, but i didnt cod on my ps3, or xbox 360 either, the game fking sucks, but I did just buy bit trip runner 2 today, and its fun as hell

Root1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

@Poprocks

Really...bitter. Stating an opinion from my point of view is me being bitter

Face it to you anyone who criticizes Nintendo are either trolls, fanboys, haters, whiners etc because in your eyes Nintendo can't do no wrong. You prove this on ALL Nintendo articles you patrol.

I'm not calling you for liking them, I'm calling people who go around blindly believing that Nintendo aren't doing anything wrong when they are. The Wii U isn't future proof, the one thing they wanted, third party support for core gamers is dropping and it hasn't been out for half a year.

So please don't make stuff up to try and make me look like the bad guy to make yourself look big. I never once hated on you for anything like that. Besides all fanboys are bad in my opinion so it's not like I'm favoring one side over the other.

I mean your whole comment is you being the victim, saying stuff which has never been said. Like I'm hating on your personally.

" I'm a horrible person simply for agreeing with what"

When did I say your were a horrible person for your opinion. Seriously, where you get this stuff from is mind boggling.

"the sad thing about the two comments above my own is that they're both from notable Sony fans"

Again making stuff up

"who have next to nothing positive to say about Nintendo"

And again...

Poprocks just stop it

PopRocks3591630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

"Really...bitter. Stating an opinion from my point of view is me being bitter"

Hmm, let's see.

"[Nintendo fans] are the worst type of fanboys in my opinion"

If I rewrote that statement with Sony fans at the head, you honestly think anyone here would find that acceptable? Your reasoning for it is even more offensive.

"because instead of wanting Nintendo to catch up with the gaming industry they'd rather pretend everything is alright"

That sounds to me like you're generalizing Nintendo fanboys and blind enthusiasts into the same category. If your comment is innocent as you claim, then next time word it in such a way where it doesn't sound insulting and asinine to anyone who happens to enjoy Nintendo platforms and games in spite of the constant criticism.

"So please don't make stuff up to try and make me look like the bad guy to make yourself look big."

The same goes for you sir. Now if I've misjudged your intentions then I indeed apologize. But your initial comment gave very little inclination of that. A generalization is a great way to piss someone off and that's precisely what your original post provided.

Not all Nintendo fans are into the Wii U but not all Nintendo fans share the same criticism as, for example, you would. And that does not make fans stupid or blind, it means that they have a different aesthetic view than yours.

Now if someone says the Wii U is selling strongly during a month of 55,000 units sold in the US... then yeah, those people are optimistic to the point of being blind to the truth. Don't don't act like all Nintendo fans are like that. That's far from the truth.

@RememberThe357

You're aware that there were some gamers who supported the Wii U version of Black Ops II, right? I was one of those people. I think it would be great to have more 3rd party support on Wii U. I want to make it my primary console.

Again, kindly don't generalize. Some fans did support the third party launch games.

RememberThe3571630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

I have to agree. This is solely on the fans. It's hypocritical to slander Acti for not bring good ports then the moment they bring a good port you leave it like chop liver.

I'm not a fan of Acti, in fact I really don't like them at all, but I'm even less of a fan of hypocrisy. You can't attack a publisher for not bringing good versions to your console then change your argument the moment they do. That's a cop out. You complained about not having the games then you get them and you don't want them.

Enjoy Mario and Zelda, we all will, but don't ask for a game you don't want.

And before anyone comes in talking about, "I never asked for Call of Duty! You PS360 fanboys can keep it!" We're talking about Nintendo fans, plural. You, as a group, not necessarily you, as an individual.

EDIT: @Above (both of you): I think both of you need to chill a second and think about this. Do neither of you see that your both right? Fanboys have a very narrow vision of what is good. We all do it to one degree or an other. But fanboys have an especially annoying disposition that makes them hypocritical. This disposition is called ignorance. You can pick apart each others comments, or you can realize that your bickering over semantics.

EDIT2: @Above (again): Again this conversation is about a group, not individuals. Don't get into that nit-picky stuff with me, it's not worth either of our time.

-Alpha1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

How can you blame Nintendo fans for not eating COD, when most of you on here wouldn't buy COD to begin with?

There was little reason to expect a Wii U port to sell to Nintendo fans-- they don't play games like COD the same way PS3/360 fans do. To expect all these Wii U owners, who likely already own COD on PS3/360 should they have those consoles, to jump on a stale franchise like COD that usually is aimed at teens and shooter fans is silly.

I also don't get where you get off calling Nintendo fanboys the worst-- all because you yourself can't take anymore Zelda and Mario? Super Mario Galaxy and the last Zelda game are highly regarded, you can undersell them as much as you like, but they are some of the highest rated games out there. How do you get off telling Nintendo fans what to like, or support? NSMBU may be more of a reskin, but again, why would Activision employee here somehow expect that to correlate to better Wii U sales of COD?

You are quick to dismiss PS3 criticism as "coming out of nowhere", but I don't see where all this stuff about Nintendo fanboys being the worst comes from, when we are talking about Activision here. It's like some people just have an axe to grind, and to me, that comment really came out of nowhere.

I get it, Wii U is underpowered, third party support is stumbling, but I don't see how that relates to you guys taking Activision's side. I find it comical this Activision is flipping out over putting effort into a port and it selling poorly. Ironic considering they usually make extremely poor titles (and ports on PS3) that sell like hotcakes.

How are Nintendo fans hypocrites? How do you base the sample you get off the internet to represent the buying patterns in the practical sense? How does one even compare the sales of NSMB to COD? The Nintendo audience is of course going to choose the product that their core market prefers. The hardcore Nintendo supporters will always choose the hardcore Nintendo games much like how I expect you to pick up God of War over a Call of Duty game, no matter how superior it may be. Doesn't mean PS3 fans would stop boasting about a superior version, the internet is always all-talk, but that doesn't mean sales will translate based on how loud people are on the internet

dedicatedtogamers1630d ago

Activision is correct. All through the Wii's lifespan, gamers (and not just die-hard Nintendo fans) cried and moaned that there were no hardcore games. But in reality, they were simply turning their noses up at the hardcore games that WERE on Wii in plain sight. I knew that if Nintendo catered to these same hardcore on the WiiU, the hardcore would verbally praise Nintendo but never actually support the console. Funny how NSMB U is the only WiiU game really moving units and yet that is - supposedly - a casual game.

Root1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

@-Alpha

"also don't get where you get off calling Nintendo fanboys the worst"

It's an opinion

Like when someone says they prefer Coke over Pepsi because Pepsi to them tastes like crap. You would get someone saying "Where do you get off saying Pepsi taste like crap" because it's an opinion.

"-- all because YOU can't take anymore Zelda and Mario?"

Your doing what Poprocks has just done, you making something up I never said. I said "theres only so much Mario/Zelda you can take" in general, for all of us, not just Nintendo fans....all gamers. Where did I say I couldn't take or stand them anymore ?

I never ONCE said I couldn't take any more Mario or Zelda games. Not once...

"I don't even get where all of this is coming from, when we are talking about Activision here."

and Nintendo

Were staying on topic, all of us, it's an article about Nintendo, The Wii U, Black Ops/COD and Activision.

"It's like some people just have an axe to grind. I get it, Wii U is underpowered, third party support is stumbling, but I don't see how that relates to you guys taking Activision's side."

No one is taking their side, we just see where they are coming from

One minute we want third party support for the Wii U, mostly from loyal Nintendo fans who have been missing out for the past 6-7 years then when a third party games comes out (good or bad, it's not about COD it's about third party support) they don't buy it and would rather buy New Super Mario Wii U for example which is basicaly a HD version of New Super Mario Bros Wii. So now most of them don't want third party support...they don't care about it. Thats what were talking about

"I'm also curious, Root, how often would you agree with a VITA article or VITA criticism? Or how often would you acknowledge any of the PS3 criticisms at the start of this gen?"

Any gamer can see the Sony hate has come out of nowhere. It's been on going for six years...I'll admit they did have problems, a lot, they were arrogant as hell when they released the PS3 and they learnt their lesson but over the years they've proven themselves, learnt from their mistakes and fixed their problems...yet the hate in the media is fixed, instead of looking at what they are doing now they still think it's 2006/2007

Why do people feel the need to pull things out of thin air in someones comment. I mean seriously most the things you and Poprocks have stated which I've apparently said...I havent or wasn't aimed in "that" way.

I mean this for example

"How are Nintendo fans hypocrites?"

Where did I say ANYONE was a hyrpocrite....Jesus Christ

MikeMyers1630d ago

PopRocks359 and Alpha are correct. We see far too many trolls that keep popping up telling everyone how so and so is doing everything wrong. The question is why do they keep popping up then if they are so unhappy with what they are doing and saying the same rhetoric in multiple topics? There are other options out there.

Nintendo isn't going to win over the Playstation and Xbox crowd overnight. It is Nintendo's job to keep the interest going.

gamer421630d ago

Well in my opinion the Sony fanboys are the worst since they can't make up their FUCKING MIND on how much they care about graphics. In the PS2 gen they were the ones saying that "graphics don't make a game" and "Who needs power when we have (insert mascot of that time)" But when the PS3 came out they turned a 180 and Said that GRAPHICS made a good game now. Sony fanboys would change their own mindset to match with Sony's. I'm not saying there aren't any of these in the ninty fanboys and xbox, but Sony definitely has the most. That's why fanboys like Dylila, and Akuma (Probably the same person) sicken me. All fanboys do. There is hypocrisy in Nintendo fans, but nothing like Sony's.

-Alpha1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

Opinions don't mean much if you can't back it up-- there's no sense calling one fanboy group worse than another, I don't understand how you conclude this based off a lack of Black Ops sales.

"No one is taking their side, we just see where they are coming from"

How so? What's the logic of expecting Wii U sales to somehow sell more copies of Black Ops? All because Activision thinks that because they finally put in effort that they expect the general population to jump on board? Yeah, it's well ported, but so what? If the core Nintendo audience doesn't care for COD, a superior port wont change that.

Are you not generalizing what Nintendo fans want (third party support), then telling them off for not supporting COD of all games? How do you feel about PS3 and VITA fans talking about diversity in their games and not supporting All Stars, or Starhawk, or Twisted Metal? By your logic, I keep hearing PS3 fans talk on here about how MS lacks IPs, yet PS3 fans don't even support a lot of these IPs that have seemingly undersold? Do you see the problem with holding the internet fans accountable for the actual sales? Nor do I think it's "all talk" if PS3 fans say "MS Should support more studios, Sony has a great diversity" and fail to support titles like Twisted Metal: fans aren't obligated to follow through like that. I can find pride in Sony supporting smaller IPs and not buy Twisted Metal, much like how Nintendo fans can find pride in a superior COD port, or third party support, yet not feel inclined to personally purchase the product themselves. It's just an overgeneralization of the consumers.

Of course Nintendo fans want third party support-- when it actually comes with the way Activision does it doesn't mean that they suddenly owe Activision any favours. Selling the game to a demographic is more than just appeasing the internet hardcore fans.

Yeah, the NSMB may be a reskin, and Call of Duty isn't? Fact of the matter is that fans vote with their wallet, did you expect Nintendo fans to pick COD over a NSMB? And how do you even think you can compare the two audiences?

"So now most of them don't want third party support...they don't care about it. Thats what were talking about"

All of this over not supporting COD? COD is suddenly the standard for what fans want in third party support? "They" dont care about third party support because they dont support COD?

"Where did I say ANYONE was a hyrpocrite....Jesus Christ" You generally side with Activision here, or at least see their point of view, and as the quote in the article implies, Nintendo fans say one thing and don't follow through. I apologize if it's not what you outright said, but I feel that hypocrisy is generalized when you criticize Nintendo fans for not following through, or double-talking.

LOL_WUT1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

I agree with Activision on this one those certain "fans" talk the talk but, can't walk the walk. The Wii U's overall sales have proven this and when they get called out on it they spin it so it fits their agenda. ;)

#Bitter lol

AdmiralSnake1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

Ahhh double post, my bad

Root1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

@Mike

"PopRocks359 and Alpha are correct. We see far too many trolls that keep popping up telling everyone how so and so is doing everything wrong."

See now your being hypocrite here (what's new) because when dmc was out and fans like myself were discussing our views on it about we didn't like how NT were handling it there was you replying to us as many times as you could bashing our opinions down and how we were wrong. Basically you didn't want to see our opinions on here which differed from yours despite being a free comment site where all opinions are welcomed good and bad.

People aren't "trolls" for worrying and questioning Nintendos actions. If you want real trolls take a gander at those comments that say things like, FOR EXAMPLE, "Nintendo sucks, PS4 for ever" or "Nintendo are the worst company in the world"...that's trolling. You don't seem to understand the difference between a person who is a troll and a person who is stating their opinion on something, an opinion you obviously can't agree on.

"The question is why do they keep popping up then if they are so unhappy with what they are doing"

Mike for the last time, it's a commenting website, where gamers can comment on articles and have discussions, some heated, some where people can all agree, it varies but thats why we have comments. They all can't be one sided can they because people will look like Sheep just agreeing with everyone and will look like they don't have a mind of their own. It's what makes this site interesting....the variety of topics discussed.

"and saying the same rhetoric in multiple topics?"

And saying the same old positive stuff is totally fine. Like again, for example, the dmc articles. You told people off for expressing their opinion but then there's you in all of them saying how you loved the game and were looking forward to it.

It works both ways you know...

AdmiralSnake1630d ago

All fanboys are equally pathetic, end of discussion.

air11630d ago

@root

Nintendo has been around a lot longer than both ms and sony, making it mostly off first party games. just look at how much they sell compared to most third party and sure most of the games are mario zelda etc.. But at the very least nintendo does something new and fresh with the franchise every time, how many first party games can you say that about out side of nintendo? Look at kill zone, the thing is on brand new hardware but the damn thing looked like it plays the same, nothing new but graphics..

I can take much more of mario and zelda thank you very much.. They bring much more to the table than a lot of sony and ms first party games and now that nintendo has the same or more power than the ps3 i cant wait for the next zelda and metroid.

" its not like sony this gen that gets hate from no where" fvcking classic

I dont have a wiiu yet, i cant stand that fvcking name by the way, but i know i will have all 3 or 4 (valve) next gen consoles and will enjoy what they have to offer but i will never think that nintedo needs to rethink what they do all because cod didnt sell as much as acti wanted

wagnus1630d ago

In any case, don't blame the gamers for poor sales.

Outside_ofthe_Box1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

***"How can you blame Nintendo fans for not eating COD, when most of you on here wouldn't buy COD to begin with?"***

^^This. This is all that needs to be said really, no need to continue on with the "debate."

The reason why Activision said this is because they are scared, can't you see that?

The ALMIGHTY CoD isn't pushing units on a main console platform so they fear that the same may happen for the PS4 and 720. They fear that their almighty franchise may be coming to an end and thus would need to come up with a new big seller. Activision is scared.

knowyourstuff1630d ago

Well hey Activision, you failed to make the Wii U version any better than console versions, did you really think everyone was going to ignore other much better games on the Wii U for the piece of crap you pooped out just because it had the CoD name slapped onto it?

TechnicianTed1630d ago

I've got all the consoles, including the Wii U, and a gaming pc, and I don't buy COD on any of my platforms. Because I think COD is a stinking pile of crap.

Where do I fit in with this assumption that Nintendo fans are all talk?

khowat1630d ago

Okay you're right, Nintendo does need to think out a better console and they can't live off their first party stuff and they're not getting hated on and whatnot, people are just questioning them and worrying for their future.

The truth is that I'm worried too. The wii u doesn't impress me, it isn't future-proof; it's not even now-proof. Their first-party I think is some of the best in world and really that just comes down to opinion. But seriously, 90% of this website site is always poised to see what nintendo does next and yeah they question what they're doing but hey, it's nintendo. You either like them or hate them and the wii u sucks and is trash and they should just release a new console or give up entirely cause people just don't like them being around, every fucking article turns into wii u q and a between nintendo fans and the rest of the world and we cna't answer all these mind boggling questions (because sometimes they are more like statements) ourselves and maybe nintendo can't either. But what I can do is have faith. Nintendo showed me last gen that you don't need power to survive, you don't need to grow up to still sell games, and that you don't need to be competing with everyone else and force yourself into someone else's market. All I can do is have (sometimes blind and unjustified) faith, and if you don't agree with me well then what can I do?

Imalwaysright1630d ago (Edited 1630d ago )

@ Root. Such hypocrisy. I've seen many PS3 fanboys and many 360 fanboys defending all the crap that Sony and MS have pulled in the last few years. I joined N4g in 2007 and in all those years I wondered how anyone that is supposed to be a "fan" defends what in the "real world" would be considered a negative thing. In my mind a "fan" should want their system of choice to be better, not worst but its like the fanboys want their system of choice to be worst. Anyone saying that Nintendo fanboys are any different than PS3/360 fanboys is full of shit.

MikeMyers1630d ago

gamer42,
"Well in my opinion the Sony fanboys are the worst since they can't make up their #### on how much they care about graphics."

We need to get away from generalizing things. All fanboys are often not taken seriously, not just Sony ones. What I will say is we had a huge feud last generation between the Xbox and Playstation camps all solely because the systems were competing so hard with one another. At the end of the day it was pretty much a wash between the Xbox 360 and PS3 and the technical advances of the PS3 wasn't nearly as relevant as some will have you believe. It is sad to see prior to this next generation even to begin we are seeing it happen all over again.

Alpha,
"Of course Nintendo fans want third party support-- when it actually comes with the way Activision does it doesn't mean that they suddenly owe Activision any favours. Selling the game to a demographic is more than just appeasing the internet hardcore fans."

This is very true. We keep seeing this clash between the hardcore gamers on the forums and the general public. Root is a perfect example of one who will voice his opinion over and over again about games like DMC or Tomb Raider and how they are not true to their roots. So he wants everyone to support his activist habits of boycotting those titles to send some sort of message. How hardcore can one person be where how fun the game may actually be is no longer relevant? The general public doesn't get involved with all of this stuff, they just want games to entertain them.

Root,
"See now your being hypocrite here (what's new) because when dmc was out and fans like myself were discussing our views on it about we didn't like how NT were handling it there was you replying to us as many times as you could bashing our opinions down and how we were wrong. Basically you didn't want to see our opinions on here which differed from yours despite being a free comment site where all opinions are welcomed good and bad."

Not true. I already said in the past your worries about DMC were valid. It was your approach that was questionable. You kept trying to overshadow anyone who liked the game with your endless comments. You also questioned the integrity of the reviews because they went against your belief it wasn't a good game. You had an agenda and were not willing to let it go. That's what people call hardcore.

Root,
"People aren't "trolls" for worrying and questioning Nintendos actions. If you want real trolls take a gander at those comments that say things like, FOR EXAMPLE, "Nintendo sucks, PS4 for ever" or "Nintendo are the worst company in the world"...that's trolling. You don't seem to understand the difference between a person who is a troll and a person who is stating their opinion on something, an opinion you obviously can't agree on."

It is you who doesn't understand the negativity you persist onto others. You continue to clash with anyone who actually enjoys something that you have set out to want change from. You want every developer to be like Naughty Dog and every company to look at gaming from Sony's point of view.

MikeMyers1630d ago

Root,
"Mike for the last time, it's a commenting website, where gamers can comment on articles and have discussions, some heated, some where people can all agree, it varies but thats why we have comments. They all can't be one sided can they because people will look like Sheep just agreeing with everyone and will look like they don't have a mind of their own. It's what makes this site interesting....the variety of topics discussed."

You're right, it is a commenting site. One where we expect multiple views on things. But we have to do it in a respectful manner. Calling people PR spokesman because they like Dead Space 3 and you have a bone to pick with EA isn't respectful. Calling people sheep for enjoying DMC isn't respectful either is it? Telling people I should be banned because I question your approach isn't very respectful either is it? The fact is you don't have any respect for anyone who doesn't share your ideologies. Even going as far as arguing with moderators because you also never take any accountability for your own actions.

Plus when you keep posting in every article downplaying any positive review on games you don't want to do well goes well beyond this place being a commenting site. Give your opinion, that's what this site is about. We want to hear different views. Just do it in a respectful way. Saying Nintendo fanboys are the worst is not a good start.

Root,
"People are worrying and questioning what Nintendo are doing thats all, it's nothing like the Sony hate this gen where most of it comes out of nowhere."

See, always some form of conspiracy because of your bias with Sony.

DonFreezer1630d ago

The worst bunch of them are Sony ones and it will not change in 20 years from now.

KillrateOmega1629d ago (Edited 1629d ago )

I just got done reading through the first few strings of comments. Apparently there are a LOT of butthurt Nintendo fans. Jeez...

There is nothing wrong with questioning Nintendo's decisions concerning the Wii U as of late. It's simply not doing very well atm and their intended third party support is lackluster. They need to bring something truly exciting to the table in order to turn things around.

Questioning them is quite justifiable at this current point in time.

Mainsqueeze1629d ago

Haha am I the only one here that thinks the guys above have way too much free time?

SolidStoner1629d ago

wow, this is the longest conversation I ever read on N4G! Pleas keep it short and simple!!! Too much information! :)

And about COD, its about time! Who would expect?

Stroke6661629d ago

I own a wii u, the only first party game I own is the nintendo land that came with my system, all of my other games are third party or indie. I not own black ops cause i do not like that particular franchise. the fans here complaining about ports do want them and do buy them. what gets over looked is most people own more than one system, if you like bo2 then chances are you are gonna go online and play with a bunch of people so in that respect would you buy it for your wii u with a 3mil installation, or your ps360 with 70mil+ installation. people did buy it for wii u however not many were impressed by it. its not the greatest port, they simply did not make it up to par to really be on a next gen system. granted it was a launch title and they are learning the wii u architecture, but they shouldn't come out with such harsh words within the first three months of the system life and based on a single game. their other games have faired well on the system but when their golden ticket doesn't come through they gotta lash out at the install base. no the nintendo install base does not want half-ass ports and the numbers prove it. i hope for the cod fans that their next game they put more than half an effort into it then i magine the sales on the game would go up, i still wouldnt buy it but i'm more than sure many would. no publishers and devs should not be rewarded for halfhearted efforts so they should retract their statements suck it up and do better next time.

antiriad1629d ago (Edited 1629d ago )

You are right :They are the worst pretenders.
First they cry out for 3rd parties,than they ignore them(neither buying Batman,AC nor COD) than they cry out because of Rayman; unleashing a huge shitstorm because of the delay and bashing Ubi Soft-But reality is:They wouldn"t have bought this game.They wouldn"t have played this game even if you give it them for free.(rayman sold 250K on 3ds,Mario more than 5 mio=1:20 ratio.)
How many of them would have bought Rayman for WiiU? less than 20K because they are right now playing Mario and there is no need for another Jump And Run(and never will for Nintendo fanboys as long as a Jump "n" Run is not starring Mario)
Now the fanboys will return to their old habbits=pretending :EA is evil,you don"t need good graphics.(and I still can"t understand why they haven"t stopped buyning consoles since NES as they insist that don"t care about graphics.But maybe that"s the reason why the Nintendo Talinban isn"t busing the Wii U-they really don"t care about graphics and continue playing NES)