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Submitted by PoSTedUP 1002d ago | opinion piece

The real reason GranTurismo 6 will only be on PS3: PS4 may be priced too high.

Joseph Digrado of elaborates on Sony's and Polophony digitals decition to release GT6 on the PS3.

"The fact of the matter is that Gran Turismo is Sony’s number one selling franchise of all time and one of the most critically acclaimed racing simulators developers have to offer. Now with that said, both Sony and Polyphony Digital want to make the most profit out of their decision and by doing so they came to this conclusion…" (Gran Turismo 6, PS3, Sony, Tag Invalid)

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GribbleGrunger  +   1002d ago | Well said
A real stretch with a forum reply sized write up. It's not worth approving, sorry.
PoSTedUP  +   1002d ago
it's not much of a stretch when it looks at all of the key elements a developer and publisher takes into consideration when making a decition of a huge title. tho it is an opinion, quanity does not equal a quality of thought.

edit @ below: not nearly all of the fans, the franchise grew without the support of a racing wheel initially and it was in the top 10 of highest selling franchises back in the PS1 days creeping into the PS2 era.
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extermin8or  +   1002d ago
It is a stretch, if it were too expensive then you add reasons to bother spending that extra money....not remove them..
MikeMyers  +   1002d ago
If the system is expensive then why not have games that are system sellers on it? If the reason is because the price is too high then why would anyone make a game for the launch?

Lots of people will buy the PS4 if it had GT6 on it. I would.
Cupid_Viper_3  +   1002d ago
I'm struggling to find the logic in the title alone.

So here's company "A" trying to sell a product that is "supposedly" expensive. And the strategy is to take away it's most attractive features? I don't get it.

Am I missing something here guys?

It seems that if anything, they'd release it on both and show the real reason why someone should upgrade to the PS4, as GT6 would look much better, and have more content and more features on the PS4 version, no?

And Please, when a new console hit the market, getting an install base is the first and foremost to that console's manufacturer. Not selling X units of games, that comes later.
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Darrius Cole  +   1002d ago
Or perhaps a PS4 will be able to play the PS3 version of the game. That would explain it as well, wouldn't it?

I am leaning, strongly, towards believing that Sony was lying when they said that the PS4 would not play PS4 games, at least the launch version of the PS4. If GT6 is, indeed, going to be PS3 only then I will take that as another piece of evidence that I am correct. It makes no sense for Sony to sell a new machine and not allow their most loyal fans, the ones who buy the new hardware at launch, to play the most popular game in the Playstation family. A game which is probably going to be a large part of why those fans bought the new system in the first place.

I don't buy it. There is no way Sony is going to screw over the most loyal fans in their fanbase by not giving them the next numbered entry in the GranTurismo series. So, either GT6 will appear on the PS4 or the PS4 will, at launch, play native PS3 games. One or the other will happen.
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Outside_ofthe_Box  +   1002d ago
PS4 won't be priced high though. Unless Sony plans on making the same mistake I highly doubt it would be priced high.
inveni0  +   1002d ago
It's a stretch because it's self contradicting. Let me explain:

Saying, "The real reason..." is like saying, "The fact is..." Then, adding, "...may be..." completely contradicts the introduction. It can't "maybe" be a fact.
SolidStoner  +   1002d ago
@ inveni0

maybe the real reason for it is the fact that he say'd maybe he thinks that's a fact! :)

about GT6, I think it will be released on both PS3 and PS4, like in the old days when PS3 got out, SONY still released many same games on PS2 & PS3..
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Boody-Bandit  +   1002d ago
Regardless if GT6 does launch on the PS3 you can bet your house and everything in it PD will make a version for the PS4. Sony is not going to sit back and watch Turn 10 wheel out Forza 5 and then Forza Horizon and make their audience wait 3 to 5 years for the next GT iteration. Not going to happen.

I just hope my wheels (Fanatec CSR Elite and T500) work with both the PS4 and NextBox. I almost know it will with Sony. They kept the PS3 open ended (nearly all USB / Bluetooth peripherals were compatible with it) so I am hoping they will do the same with the PS4.

I really don't want to have to purchase more wheels.
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pixelsword  +   1002d ago
Sorry, you can't use "the real reason" and "may be" on the same subject; the subject "may be the real reason", but if it's "the real reason" it "is", not "may be".
PoSTedUP  +   1001d ago
there could be endless reasons for their dicistion, whether one may think their opinion is right or wrong is subjective, just like this Opinion piece. this was just one outlook on one of the possible reasons regarding their decition through a business stand point.

@ brutalhonesty: though it is my opinion, they might not benifit as much if they were to release GT7 on PS4, you have to take into consideration if GT6 will sell aswell on the PS4 considering it is the same game, and the costs of porting it over and pretty much having to add new features to keep up with the high expectations of the hardware; they might as well just make GT7. unless they can work around that and have it streamed through cloud or something.
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Boody-Bandit  +   1001d ago

I refer you GT Prologue and it's sales.
If PD released a GT6 Prologue it would most likely sell 3+ million copies and I am being modest. Anything more than a million would most likely garner PD breaking even or a surplus.
onyoursistersback  +   1002d ago
most GT fans buy expensive steering wheels just for this game!!!
i think the price of the ps4, is not gana keep them from buying GT6?!
Cupid_Viper_3  +   1002d ago
I'm one of those fans, I spent $900 on the Sony HMZ-T1 Personal 3D Headset, and 350 on the Logitech wheel and the stand, plus another $80 on comfy office chair...

Playing GT5 in 3D on Movie Theater Screen.....Priceless :)
Boody-Bandit  +   1002d ago
Exactly onyoursistersback (love the name ;).
There is no way Sony wont have a version for the PS4. Even if we have to wait a year or so. There will definitely be one.

And your 110% right about GT fans purchasing wheels and possibly rigs just for that series. I have 2 rigs and GT is the reason I got into purchases wheels. I have owned several over the years and now I have a Fanatec CSR Elite and Thrustmaster T500. There is nothing like playing racing games on a good rig. I just hope the new racing titles support triple panels (eyefinity).

Can't wait for next gen!
RememberThe357  +   1002d ago
And yet look what happened? God damn it N4G, stop approving crap articles! I really don't want to spend my time reporting all this trash, it should be know that this stuff shouldn't be approved. Theres already too much trash on this site as is, can we please at least make an effort to clean it up?
-Falaut-  +   1002d ago
But Gribble, there is a Z in the website name, that screams quality and professionalism. ^__^
doctorstrange  +   1001d ago
JRivera92  +   1002d ago
Good read, and I totally agree. Besides, they already have Drive Club releasing for Ps4 so putting GT6 on Ps3 would be pretty awesome.
Knight_Crawler  +   1002d ago
I just dont see the logic of spending millions of dollars on a game engine to only make one game this gen.

Sony spent too much money on the GT5 engine and the amount of time it took PD to release GT5 was long.

If GT 6 was to release on the PS4 AT LAUNCH PD would have to upgrade there engine or start from scratch which I dont see Sony doing because MS will make sure that Forza has a new engine for the 720.

GT 7 will be released on the PS4 3 years after the PS4 launch mark my words.
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SDF Repellent  +   1002d ago
Agreed, the PS4 is unproven and could be the next Betamax for all we know. After Spending all that time and money to make GT5, it is a no brainer for Sony to use the tools, engines and car models that are already in place to sell it to 70m customers and make lots of $$$. It is simple economic, people.
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Cyrax4  +   1002d ago
The PS3 essentially is Betamax. The only time people use it is when they have to dust it off because a 1st party exclusive like Uncharted is released. The 360 is the king of multiplatform games.

You try telling people it's economics and yet you are completely oblivious to it. What's more important: Making a bit more cash in the short term or making a lot of cash in the long term?

Online ecosystems matter. People will buy the console that they have already built up their achievement/trophy profiles and their friends list. Sony already lost that battle to existing gamers, but they have a chance to win the next group of gamers who will be buying their first console.

Not having a system seller like Gran Turismo on the PS4 for another 3-5 years is a major blunder.
mistertwoturbo  +   1002d ago
^360 King of Multiplatform? Wrong, it's the King of COD.
MysticStrummer  +   1002d ago
lol @ Cyrax4 - Your whole post sounds like you just stepped out of a time machine. This is 2013. Sorry to break it to you but the PS3 didn't fail.
Feldman9000  +   1001d ago

With that thought process, it's no wonder M$ makes millions off of fans forcing them to play online.
jay2  +   1002d ago
No, the reason is PS3 still have a 2-3 yr life span thats all. Why are people making such a big thing out of this, PS3 is not going to go the way of 360 when Kinect came out, PROPER games will be released for many years, games that will sell well, most will be cross-gen, some exclusive.
smashcrashbash  +   1002d ago
That is the most roundabout thing I have ever heard. Here is a thought.Maybe like several games GT6 is coming to both systems. The PS3 version is probably coming first and the PS4 version is coming later because they have to familiarize themselves with the new console.It didn't bother them making GT5 for a console that most people thought was too expensive but suddenly they turn around and make GT6 only for the because the PS4 is too expensive? There is no way that the console could even be as expensive as the PS3 was so how could it be priced 'too high'? Compared to what?

And why would they prefer to adhere to the limitations of the PS3 rather then take advantage of the power of the PS4? No third party is backing down because of price and they have no allegiance to Sony. So why should Sony's partner Polophony out all people back down especially when it is the opportunity to make a potential system seller to wow the GT fanbase? Look stop the guessing okay.When it happens we will know what it is about. Trying to use GT6 to try and prove the PS4 might be expensive is nonsense.Polophony could make twice the money just by catering to both consoles. It's not like they are making games for anyone else.Why can't it be that they are making GT6 for the PS3 and it will come to the PS4 once they have it's inner workings all figured out? But somehow you weave this into a high price for the PS4. With a new console they have to figure out the ins and outs of it and will probably make a GT6 once they get it all sorted out.But why not release on the PS3 first which they are familiar with and get the profit while they are working on the PS4 version?
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Bigpappy  +   1002d ago
You make the most sense, so I responded to you post. I also think GT6 will be on PS4 unless it is optimized under a different name.
Darrius Cole  +   1002d ago
Games that are released later on a different platform never sell well. The only exception that I can think of is Ninja Gaiden Sigma 1 which sold better on PS3 than on Xbox (original). However, those two systems were a generation apart. And hack n' slash games on Playstation always outperform the Xbox version.
smashcrashbash  +   1002d ago
That is two different systems you are talking about.The PS4 is still Sony's own. The people who keep their PS3's will have GT6 now and the people who shifted to PS4's will get it later. I am sure the people who buy PS4's will still want GT6 when it comes out.Besides despite my theory this is all just speculation.So far no word from either Sony or Polophony has confirmed anything. For all we know there are two games GT6 for the PS3 and a different GT in works for the PS4.Let's wait and hear what they have to say about it.
Sarobi  +   1002d ago
Was it ever 100% confirmed that this would be a current gen title?
JRivera92  +   1002d ago
Not yet seeing as how it was just recently announced.
KwietStorm  +   1002d ago
Well apparently a Sony VP said so, but nothing beyond that. I don't usually take those as confirmation when the game hasn't even been announced.
Gamer-40  +   1002d ago
I buy GT6 no question, but i think, GT6 coming only Ps3 this is a bad move for Sony Ps4 start and sales.

GT biggest system seller, Ps4 needs this game 2014, 2015-2016 too far (GT7).
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Cyrax4  +   1002d ago
What a stupid article.

"The PS4 may be priced too high for Polyphony Digital to consider making a GT6 for"

You do realize that Sony calls the shots, not PD, right? You also ended a sentence with a preposition.

Anyone using the GT6 vs Drive Club argument needs to pull their head out of their ass. Gran Turismo is a system seller. Sony's biggest priority is to build the PS4 install base as quickly as possible so they don't have a repeat of the current gen.

The PS3 has been relegated to nothing more than an exclusive machine. Over 90% of multiplatform games sell more copies on the 360 than the PS3.

What's more important: Making a bit of cash in the short term by selling more copies on the PS3 or selling more PS4s and greatly increasing the chance of players choosing the PS4 as their primary console of choice?

Anyone who thinks that releasing GT6 on the PS3 is a good choice is short-sighted.
saint_seya  +   1002d ago
This guy, steath trolling doesnt work like this, u should hide a bit better your trolling.
Cam977  +   1002d ago
The guy can't write either. Down vote his terrible site so it never returns.
madduey  +   1002d ago
Bollocks!!! Can't believe I even clicked the link
sak500  +   1002d ago
Maybe PD were already working on gt6 after releasing gt5 and since the ps4 is totally new architecture they can't do much to change the code in time to release it on ps4 so they will release gt6 on ps3. Then release gt7 on ps4 at a later date.
ChickenOfTheCaveMan  +   1002d ago
I'd say it's more because PS3 has now a big pool of owners and they want to maximize all the time they spent on GT5 by creating a 6 with the same but enhanced engine and experience.
Shawtymann  +   1002d ago
GT6 & GTA 5 are two games in which I don't care which console they're released on, they'll be a day one purchase no matter what
snowman2149  +   1002d ago
This post is complete and utter bullshit. The real reason is that Polyphony didn't even have a ps4 dev kit when they started work on GT6, why would they throw away all that they've done, build a brand new engine and THEN start making GT6 for the ps4? Do you have any idea how long that would take? THAT is why GT6 is coming to the ps3 and that is why Evolution Studios' Drive Club is a ps4 launch title, Gran Turismo for the ps4 would have taken 4 more years, at least.
medman  +   1002d ago
Polyphony is going to have to go a long way to fix the problems they encountered developing GT5 for the PS3. GT5 suffers from many limitations, and their own development chief blamed alot of that on the technical limitations of the PS3. So if they felt GT5 was limited by the hardware, how are they going to make GT6 considerably better given the amount of time they had to develop GT5, the constant delays, and they still couldn't get it right? You expect people to pay sixty dollars for something you claimed couldn't be done on the current PS3? So, either they were lying, or they've suddenly had an epiphany and figured out how to code to fix the issues with GT5? I'm not sold. Not by a long shot. Drive Club looks good, maybe I'll give that a shot. But I know this...I'm buying a PS4. If GT6 is PS3 only, count me out. I'll have enough games to buy for the new system, maybe I won't miss it.
TheOneEyedHound  +   1002d ago
Stupid people, with their stupid articles.
momthemeatloaf  +   1002d ago
It's be ause the game is too far into production for ps3 to start over. Throw it in the ps4 store or cloud a few months down the road for sale. I don't see the big deal.
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TheFallenAngel  +   1002d ago
I'm more excited about Drive Club than GT6.
TenSteps  +   1002d ago
The real reason...

...may be priced too high

Let me just say what? Until we receive official numbers you can't really say that one reason is the "real" one if your backing it with a possibility/probability.

Would I deny the possibility of prices being too high the possibility that prices would be just fine? No. But I won't make claims that come off as final and completely true unless I have the facts in front of me.

A better title and one that makes sense would be the possible/probable reason why GT6 is only on PS3.
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Hicken  +   1002d ago
Stupid reason.
juandren  +   1002d ago
Can this stupid website stop popping up? Jesus I've downvoted it for like 10 articles already. This guy can't write. It's beyond pathetic
broli4000  +   1002d ago
I don't know why they even bother anymore. They take forever to release their games and ultimately, the alternatives are just as good if not better.

GT used to be something amazing, but now they are a mediocre franchise that they release every 3 years. That is just far too long of a gap for a game that is essentially a clone of itself every time.
JRivera92  +   1002d ago
I'd rather wait the while for it... At least they aren't milking us every single year like Activision for the SAME EXACT copy & paste game over and over...
broli4000  +   1000d ago
That isn't really an argument for it though. Just because they don't crank out a game every year doesn't mean that the game they put out isn't mediocre by comparison to other racing franchises. It doesn't mean that they aren't milking their fan base by putting out a half assed product just because they do it every 3 years. It just means that they are half assed at even doing that.
bunfighterii  +   1002d ago
If the PS4 was priced 'too high' then they'd definitely want GT6 to justify the purchase.
PhiMattic  +   1002d ago
It is an interesting reason. Only time will tell for sure what will happen.
brettyd  +   1002d ago
Hey article why you trololo?
level 360  +   1002d ago
The writer clearly doesn't know what he's talking about.

Absolute rubbish speculation.

GT6 will be on PS4.
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Orionsangel  +   1002d ago
This is such bullshit! It's gonna be delayed like crazy. GT6 won't see the light of day till at least 2017 the earliest. It'll be on PS4. You think Kazunori Yamauchi is gonna hold back and limit himself to the PS3 hardware after the GT5 fiasco? When GT5 needed to be patched dozens of times to fix the graphics. No! Kazunori Yamauchi is an ambitious perfectionist. If development starts for PS3. Which I seriously doubt. It's guaranteed to switch over to PS4 when Kazunori Yamauchi starts pushing the hardware and goes crazy adding 5000 cars. Some of you people never learn and get sucked in again. Learn from past history folks.
Plasticgearsolid  +   1002d ago
This is the dumbest thing Iv'e ever heard
StreetsofRage  +   1002d ago
Lol. Gt5 had mostly ps2 cars. They couldn't even make enough ps3 cars, and now they have to make ps4 cars? They'll release it on the ps3 that way they will have enoughs ps3 cars to port to the ps4.
Hdz54  +   1002d ago
This is very reminiscent of the decision to develop God of War 2 for the PS2 instead of the PS3. Main drivers of that decision was the massive installed base of the PS2 and SSM's familiarity with the current technology. PD will probably get started on GT7 for the PS4 right after GT6 is done.
PoSTedUP  +   1001d ago
i agree, it is their best bet because GT7 will sell the PS4, if it were on the ps3 And the PS4, it may not have as much of an impact considering it will almost be the same game just updated graphics and few more features. you might as well just stick with the PS3 and enjoy the game at a cost of (blank ammount that you paid 5 years ago).
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