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Submitted by legendoflex 1073d ago | opinion piece

It’s Time for 3D Mario to Return to a Proper Hub World on Wii U

GenGAME writes: "One of the most common fan requests for the next 3D Mario title is a true blue full-blown hub world, after the legendary pattern of Peach’s Castle from Super Mario 64 or the Delfino Plaza in Super Mario Sunshine. The more “level-select” oriented direction seen in the hubs of the Galaxy games or the “World Map” in Super Mario 3D Land just don’t cut it.

"It’s not so much that the lack of impressive hub worlds keeps those latter titles from being great games. It’s just that having better hubs would make them feel more like the great games that they are." (Super Mario, Super Mario 3D Land, Super Mario 64, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Mario Sunshine, Wii U)

Snookies12  +   1073d ago
I agree, I'd love for them to go back to a hub world similar to Sunshine or 64.
nerdkiller  +   1073d ago
no way u earned all those bubbles, you cheater
Snookies12  +   1073d ago
Lol, I was surprised at how many I was getting as well. :]
Erimgard  +   1073d ago
This is exactly what I want for an overworld experience in the next 3D Mario.
Kevlar009  +   1073d ago
YES. I missed finding secret areas in the Hub world, one of my favorite aspects of games like Sonic Adventure or Mario Sunshine.

It's lazy to put out a Mario 3 kind of layout for a full 3D game
ChickeyCantor  +   1073d ago
I wouldn't call it lazy. I personally preferred the Galaxy 2 map over the first one. As It makes the level selection faster and more accessible.

Sure there are no secrets, but personally never cared for it much.
legendoflex  +   1073d ago
Ideally, I like the idea of having both. Within a "world," you can access any level from a fast-travel style "map" select screen, or explore at your leisure.
2EHO  +   1073d ago
I kinda want to see something new from Ninty. Love mario and I'm sure his 3d adventure on Wii U will be a good one. Can I get a Project Hammer with open world goodness?
kirbyu  +   1073d ago
No.
gamer42  +   1073d ago
Did you even read the article?
kirbyu  +   1073d ago
I just prefer the levels being set out on a map like in Super Mario World, not a place you can walk around like in Super Mario 64.
neogeo  +   1073d ago
Yes. That is what makes Mario64 the best Mario of all time imo. I loved how you can just roam around in a simi open world setting. If Nintendo really was on there game, make us a 3d Mario that is COMPLETELY open world. No limits. big as Skyrim!
mcstorm  +   1073d ago
That would be good to see a big open world Mario but ide also love to see them do that with pokemon to.
LastXeno  +   1073d ago
They're going to do something different, It's Nintendo, It's 3D Mario, they usually come once a generation.
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Gamer-40  +   1073d ago
3D Mario on WiiU awesome. This 100%.
Summons75  +   1073d ago
They've never lost the hub world just improved it
PopRocks359  +   1073d ago
Wait... Mario Sunshine and Galaxy had hubs too... sure, neither were in the Mushroom Kingdom/Peach's Castle, but that doesn't make them improper hubs.

That said, I wouldn't mind the next hub taking place in the castle again.

@gamer42

Yes I did. Exactly what was so wrong with my initial comment?
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gamer42  +   1073d ago
Did you even read the article? (I mean, really?)
gamer42  +   1073d ago
He never said they were improper, you're comment makes it sound like he had a disdain for the those hub worlds, he's only suggesting improvements. that's all, sorry if I came off as harsh or misunderstood you're comment.
PopRocks359  +   1073d ago
Sorry. I should have specified the context. I was speaking in general terms, not because the article made any sort of accusations.
Root  +   1073d ago
Why don't they just do an open world Mario game, imagine exploring a map the size of Grand Theft Auto 4 or Just Cause 2. The Mushroom Kingdom, Peach's Castle from Mario 64, Toad villages/towns, forests, moutains, bowers region and his castle.

They have a ton of vehicles aswell

Karts, Cars, Latikus Cloud, Bikes, power ups like the cape/raccoon Mario

They can do it....they just wont
PopRocks359  +   1073d ago
While the open world idea may be worth looking into, your vehicles suggestion is, with all due respect, a really stupid idea.

Vehicles don't belong in the core gameplay of a platformer. Banjo-Kazooie Nuts & Bolts taught us that little lesson already. Mario and Mario Kart are separate entities and ought to remain as such and evolve in their own ways. Otherwise it will result in IP cannibalism like ModNation racers (amazing game) and LittleBigPlanet Karting (lackluster game).

"They can do it....they just wont"

Then do us all a favor, study game design and build a platformer with vehicles that works and prove that it's actually enjoyable, let alone doable.

@Root below

Actually I came across your comment when I clicked on the article. I don't have the patience to surf through comment history. My statement in the other comment was based on my memory of comments I remember you making on previous Nintendo articles.

Now would you like to remain on-topic?
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Root  +   1073d ago
....no....just no

Don't do what trolls do, argue with me on one post on another article then go through my history where you can disagree with me more to vent.
MikeMyers  +   1073d ago
"Now would you like to remain on-topic?"

Why would he when you put him on the spot. The guy criticizes everything and I too would love to see him make his own game so we can pick it apart piece by piece too.

Super Mario Galaxy was an awesome game and it was no side-scroller. I think the Mario game on the Wii U was a quickly done game to get a Mario game out for launch. I imagine they are currently working on a full scale Mario game right now but it will take some time. A Mario game like GTA? Lol
EvilFluff91  +   1073d ago
What Nintendo could do in the next 3D Mario game is have a large hub world for you to explore but give you the ability to fast travel to the stages by selecting them via the Wii U gamepad but only the stages you have already been to, so you are still exploring the hub world but casuals can still access the levels quickly and conveniently, they could also give you an incentive to free roam by having characters placed around the hub world with quests and mini games to unlock stars.
riverstars86  +   1073d ago
Rumor has it that Nintendo is going 3rd party and releasing the new 3D Mario game for PS4 and Nextbox. So your ideas won't be possible to implement.

Sorry EvilFluff91.... :-(
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Nodoze  +   1072d ago
Super Mario Galaxy 3 - Which can be preceded by a combo pack of Super Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 in HD (an insta buy for me).

DO IT NINTENDO...DO IT NOW!!!
DivineAssault  +   1072d ago
or a whole new one all together.. The n64 hub world was fantastic tho.. The damn flying level when u had to look up in the castle used to PISS ME OFF! but i needed those 120 stars

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