Darrin Wright of The Game Fanatics has been through a lot with Microsoft. How can they win him back?
That should be true for Sony and Microsoft. Sonys was awful at release for the ps3 and Microsoft finished slow compared to how well it launched.
Sony's definitely not blameless. That price tag alone was nuts. **EDIT** Someone actually disagrees with me on the price tag issue? Really??
True, but I believe it was high solely on tech and them being a bit out of touch with consumers than it being just for the sake of it.
@superdarrin82 I would actually disagree with your statement. It's an old chesnut but considering you bought a blu ray player built into exotic architecture that I daresay, will STILL produce eyewatering results for a few years more yet - in the hands of the right devs - I think it was a hell of an investment. And still is. Also, dont forget, the world wasnt sunk in the financial recession it is now.
@zebramocha The PS3 was expensive and did not even launch with Rumble support and the launch games were not very good.
I disagreed with your statement of the $600 launch price point. I personaly, had absolutely no qualms about it. walked out spending around $900 actually. Typing this response on my never serviced, always on launch 60G PS3 now. The year or two that others waited before adopting, I was playing great exclusives like Motorstrorm, Resistance: Fall of man, and all the multi-plats etc.. Sony hasn't let me down at all this gen personally. My 360 has been fun too, well after the disc door wouldn't stay closed and had to send it in after 4 months after I got it for Forza. But lack of exclusives has me feeling a tad abandoned by Microsoft.
1.)Showcase the 720 as a gaming machine first. 2.)Brand new games. Show us what all those new studios they opened up are working on. 3.)Revamp XBL. Make MP, Netflix and Hulu free right from the get go. While charging for other big features that'll be introduced. (PSN+ type deals along with free movies, games music, TV shows etc.) (Or MS cloud game streaming service) make those under the paid subscription. 4.) Don't block used games. 5.) Seeing how Kinect will exist again make games "Better With Kinect" instead of Kinect only games. Not Worried About. *App partnerships *Brand new Social integration's *Faster, Quicker, Revamped Dash. *Casual, Family Friendly Games Utilizing Kinect.
I agree with you 100% Good post man. Bubbles
1)Variety of core exclusives 2)Xbl gold turning into a PS+ like service
If XBL mimicked PS+, it'd be so awesome.
To sell me MS would have to: ditch the Kinect focus get back to core gaming create new IPs put the left analog stick in the right place on controller let me play online for free like everyone else make reliable hardware let me access my Netflix account for free like everyone else have a PS+ like service don't charge extortionate prices for HDDs let me watch Youtube for free like everyone else stop buying exclusive DLC instead of new IPs include wifi in the console at launch let me use Facebook for free like everyone else no batteries in the controller no wired controllers at launch let me use Twitter for free like everyone else don't lie about 4 player kinect games don't make the console run loud at launch don't lie about scanning objects to use in game with kinect I have to see lots of core new IP announcements to trust them don't lie about your faulty hardware if it happens again let me use a web browser for free like everyone else no flimsy cheap mic in the box let me listen to internet radio for free like everyone else no laggy interface designed for kinect a better Netflix app let me access my Hulu+ account for free like everyone else ditch the MS points and use real dollar amounts day one digital release on new games let me do video chat for free like everyone else assure me that my discs won't scratch in the console anymore let me play used games like everyone else not require the console to be online at all times no watermarked discs put Blu-Ray in the next console no more disc swapping like everyone else 7.1 digital surround sound full 1080p capable allow me to use any bluetooth earpiece of my choice let me put any laptop HDD in that I want let me use any size usb thumbstick that I want
You should include: change name to Sony.
One bubble for a funny.
@Strongman Nah Microsoft blind fanboys don't deserve such great things.
LOL! Like Stave Ballmer should change his last name to "Jobs". Mwahahahhaha! seriously Strong man know the 360 inside and out more than anyone else. lol! Know your enemy I suppose. @mwjw696 "MS has 18+ Studios" all working on Kinect 2.0 ROFL!
In other words it doesn't matter what they do because you will never like it.
Did you not read his comment? All those things need to be done in order to gain interest in MS.
Learn how to read. He's not attacking Microsoft or the 360. Some people just want Microsoft to succeed. Shocking, I know. InMyOpinion: There's plenty of trolls on this site for the 360 too.
If you have read Stongmans post comments you know nothing could get him to buy something from "M$". He's just a rampant troll.
@ shadow. Dude who are you trying to kid. good old strongman attacks every single Xbox article without a doubt. It's like he ain't got a life or something. @ kietz I agree with your list apart from controller . I think Xbox controller is awesome and the best. Just my opinion though.
Well said StrongMan but MS will never consider this so I will take my money and gaming elsewhere.
You obviously didn't read the list or you are just like him.
Could have just said PS+ like service More core games Don't charge for anything non-Microsoft related (youtube, netflix, etc) Dual-Shock is the only way!!!!1 See, it's a much more concise list. Not that I feel you weren't trying to make the list as long as possible. Wonder why you have one bubble...
Added Don't say you have 1080p wile you run a blurred out version of it. Don't have a 100% failure rate at launch. Don't make me pay for your badly fabricated console when it dies. Don't make me pay for online wile still ripping me off by maing me look at adverds. Don't try to trick me on E3 with singers on a stage selling me shit Don't hire an audience to scream on camera for some mediocre ew IP that never got from the ground. Plz leave the hobbit out of it as well. Don't exclude a real media player so we dont get shafted again by buying one and then having it disapear from the market. Don't try to trick me by showing of CGI only video's in comercials acting like its Halo in real time. Just...Don't.
Do you seriously troll every MS article?
@ Strongman lol....have a bubble
Am I not allowed an opinion? I don't care what any of you think so why do you care what I think? Anyone who don't worship the console that you do is a fanboy now? Whatever. I want any non-fanboy to tell me which one of my points that they don't want from the next Xbox.
You stretched the list out a bit, but I agree overall. Oddly enough, I liked the original Xbox controller, but the 360 controller doesn't appeal to me. I just can't get with it. I will NEVER pay to play online when I'm already paying for internet. That will definitely have to change before I buy a Microsoft product. Be consistent with core game support. It's fine if you wanna promote Kinect, but it SHOULD NOT be your primary focus. Don't let 3rd parties pick up the slack: pump out your own core games, and not just the same few franchises. I know plenty of people enjoy Gears and Halo and so on, but those games haven't enticed me thus far; gonna need more than that to pull me in, obviously. Lost Odyssey 2 would be a great start. I don't think they'll block used games, so I'm not worried about that. If they DO, however, that's an automatic no-buy. Reliability and accountability are also musts. Addressing the RROD should NOT have taken two years. It was evident after six months that it was an issue that needed to be dealt with. Likewise, the issues that XBL has faced- and let's not pretend NOTHING has ever gone wrong- have been rather unapologetically blamed on the users. According to Microsoft, Major Nelson fell for a phishing scheme when his account was changed to Russian a few years back. That seems likely... Keeping up with the PS4, capability-wise, would be nice. Doesn't have to be more powerful. Doesn't have to have the same features. Just needs to be competitive, or otherwise have a price that reflects that it ISN'T competitive. IF all these things are present(or not present, as the case may be), I will buy this Microsoft product. Edit: I'm getting a LOT of disagrees, but it seems like nobody in here is willing to rebut anything I've said. Was something unreasonable? Or was it just because some of you want me to be perceived as trolling? I imagine the Microsoft fanboys want just that. In spite of their desires, however, I love gaming, so I'd be happy to see Microsoft pumping out the games. Sadly, I'm not sure if I see that.
It's hard to respect your opinion when your tongue is far up the ps3s hdmi port.
And other Sony sheep continue to blindly and stupidly follow this strong kid like a cult leader. Listen to this. "put the left analog stick in the right place on controller." What do you mean by that, to make it more like PlayStation's controller? That's funny. Xbox's controller is great the way it is hopefully they tweak it to make playing fighters better but overall the Xbox controller is great. "let me access my Netflix account for free like everyone else ." "let me watch Youtube for free like everyone else." "let me use Facebook for free like everyone else." let me listen to internet radio for free like everyone else." Instead he could of just said let me use "apps" for free instead of repeating the same thing over and over again. Trying to put Xbox under the negative lens last I checked the PS3 was no saint either.
You disagree with: "let me access my Netflix account for free like everyone else ." "let me watch Youtube for free like everyone else." "let me use Facebook for free like everyone else." What the...
@InMyOpinion "If you have read Stongmans post comments you know nothing could get him to buy something from "M$" Oh, and I bet you he is using his PS3 Web browser to log in to N4G instead of his PC and Windows. That is what I call dedication and brand loyalty. BTW, wasn't Strongman down to one bubble as of yesterday for the amount of reported trolling? Now he is back at 2. Are there any Mods working here???
Things I want from the new Playstation: - Don't put your client data on archaic apache servers with little to no protection. - Don't release an open source GUI that can be directly hacked to interfere with the end users experience. - Do not march Jack Tretton on the stage everytime they reach some random milestone (which normally shows units or products shipped not sold.) - Don't copy every great innovation that comes out, that you mocked the year before. These are several of the reasons I have been very opposed to supporting Sony, although I was given a PS3 for Christmas 2 years ago.
Those gripes are so miniscule and bother very few people to be even considered cons though, even the 1st one which I can understand would be valid except there were NO reports of credit card fraud after the breach.. And if your worried about that you know you can pay through PayPal or prepaid visa/psn cards that's just the safer option. Microsofts cons though relate soley to greed...There's no way around not paying for multiplayer, app access, a small variety of AAA exclusives, expensive proprietary hard drives, those hundreds of thousands of broken 360s.. The list is big man.
@OhYeah No these are actually very serious issues that need addressed. The first two especially as they compromise information even if it happens to not be CC info. Running servers that are 8 years old with nothing but a basic firewall that hold all client data would be considered a huge violation in every other form of security. This is completely unacceptable and must change for the next-gen.
Not block used games, not always online, make kinect an option not requeired for use. Have a hell of a launch lineup
The next box will block used games, and require online connection? Was that confirmed?
of course its not confirmed, nothing is. But the article said what does microsoft need to do to sell me the new xbox & i will not be buying one if they block used games & require an online connection.
For now just say the xbox is coming just like Sony did for ps4. But we all won't know anything until after e3.
3-4 new IP (UE4). PGR5. Forza 5. Fable 4(UE4). MGS. New AAA JRPG. Strong third party. Backwards compatibility. Good price. Awesome design console&controller.
Kinect optional and good games.
Working on it.
I would like to see new, refreshing IPs and reliable hardware. The RROD is the reason why I didn't go with the 360 back in 2007.
I will never even consider an xbox as long as online is taken away from you that is the biggest con this gen, I wonder how many xbox owners will be falling for it next gen?
Im skeptical of the next xbox, and hardly even see a possibility of them beating the PS4. All we know at this point is that microsoft has hardly any gaming studios under there wing, while sony has 12 owned studios that are all developing on PS4.
MS has 18+ Studios
343 Industries – Halo series
Connected Experiences – Untitled Project
Good Science Studio – Kinect Adventures, Kinect Fun Labs
Kids and Lifestyle Entertainment – Next generation fitness project
Microsoft Studios – Los Angeles – Next generation core cinematic title
Microsoft Studios – Mobile Gaming – ilomilo
Microsoft Studios – Redmond Publishing –
Platform Next Studios – Next generation core title
Playful Learning – Next generation family project
Skybox Sports – Next generation sports project
Turn 10 Studios – Forza Motorsport series -
Twisted Pixel Games – The Gunstringer, LocoCycle
Xbox Live Productions – South Park Let's Go Tower Defense Play!, South Park: Tenorman's Revenge, Avatar Kinect
Lionhead Studios – Unannounced MMO-like New IP
Lift London – Multiple Cloud Based gaming projects
Press Play – Untitled Project
BigPark – Untitled Project - (an unannounced next generation title)
Microsoft Studios Victoria – Untitled Project
Wow, you could even say that's more than Sony owns. 8^0
While we would all love Xbox live to be free, I would also be fine with getting more for my money if they keep it a pay service. Look at Playstation plus. Why do us live users get the worst deals? Why did I get 20MP as a birthday present? As for the RROD, I have had a 360 for 4 years now and have had one red ring in the first few months of owning my system. I sent it out and got it back with a free month of live and in a relatively short time. While I think finding a solution to having a system never die seems like the best idea, it also seems unrealistic and as long as I am treated like I was when my Xbox ringed, I can put up with it. As for exclusives: Unfortunately developers are going to publish what sells. Its a business. Companies only care when you buy their stuff. If an exclusive like Halo 4 profits, there will be a Halo 5, simple as that. New Ips are a coin flip. Why take the chances on a coin flip when you know that you can re hash Call of Duty and make billions?
i dunno maybe try and hit another Homerun for future profits? COD won't last forever either will halo
The Xbox 720 is going to be a very profitable product, .i hope MS can give us a great and entertaining show
Am sold on it no matter what. I have no clue what am getting but who care's cause it's my money . Also who gives a fk what I spend it on & if some have issues with that may I suggest you worry about yourselves.
I agree with you no one gives a flyingF*ck wha u or any one else dose with there money.
Sony won't make the same mistake. Xbox720 better have the following if they want my business : Bluray New IP's Focus more on hardcore games than Kinect Have a basic free to play Online Cost around $399 to $450 AND NO RROD ERRORS !!
Sold allready thanks.
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