Submitted by TheSuperior 881d ago | opinion piece

Is the PS4 Making the Same Mistakes as the Wii U?

As of now the only two 100 percent confirmed next-gen consoles are Sony’s PS4 and Nintendo’s Wii U. These two consoles are surly competing against one another although the big battle between Microsoft and Sony has yet to begin. It can be said that Nintendo has been making some huge mistakes over the past few years with their Wii and Wii U consoles. After a huge press conference confirming the PS4 is on its way, players immediately started comparing the two confirmed consoles. With the thought of the Wii U and how many mistakes have been made clear to the gaming community gamers are beginning to wonder if the PS4 will follow in its footsteps. (PS4, Wii U)

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ThatXboxGuy  +   881d ago

Carry on folks, nothing to read here.
Saigon  +   881d ago
Granted the author did say 'No', but this title was a gimmick to get hits. Other than the ambiguous title, this article was a good read, pointed good points to why the Wii U is not living up to its potential and why the PS4 potential is growing. In my honest opinion, I believe the biggest mistake with the Wii U is the name itself. Should have called it something else to distinguish the systems.
theBAWSE  +   881d ago
Story quality wtf like this website NO
user3915800  +   881d ago
Not the same for sure, just nearly identical, Are they twins?
ElectricKaibutsu  +   881d ago
From the article: "Now we ask ourselves, is Sony making these same mistakes with the PS4? The answer is a sure fire… NO! Sony is thankfully doing everything right so far with the announcements they have made regarding their upcoming console, the PS4."

LOL. Oh, it's one of these articles. Couldn't the author just put that line in the title?
Saigon  +   880d ago

Yeah that title was a little ridiculous...it was a hit factor.
kingmushroom  +   881d ago
don't give the website hits its a joke
T2  +   881d ago
Surly the consoles are competing against one another " ...So its surly , did you expect friendly competition? Lol
007Bond  +   881d ago
Please give this a read, don't let this P$ fanboy with a P$ logo as an avatar stop you.
DarkHeroZX  +   881d ago
No, ps4 is actually a next Gen console and not a "catch-up" to current Gen.
TheSuperior  +   881d ago
PS4 isnt making any mistakes.
ThatXboxGuy  +   881d ago
So why write this up and submit it?
NexGen  +   881d ago
Because this is probably his freshman year at high school and this is an assignment. It's written that way at least.
Zuperman  +   881d ago
The difference is the PS4 is a TRUE LEGITIMATE NEXT GEN system.

The Wii U Isn't. It's just an HD version of the Wii.
Steadyhndz  +   881d ago
You're completely right...but you know what amazes me, are the people who say PS4 isn't really next gen.
RyuCloudStrife  +   881d ago
they should have named it Wii HD Now.
Link079  +   881d ago
Over 200GB of fast Bandwidth RAM on WiiU's gpgpu and this is measured off the 70% of the gpgpu that we know of wiiu achieves high results because of expensive eDRAM.

PS4 has 174GB but compensates in main RAM ? simple,different approach same results both Nextgen,ENF OF.

720 is rumoured to have 100GB Bandwidth RAM,many times more than 360.
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edgeofsins  +   881d ago
HD Wii graphics would look terrible still. It isn't just higher definition. It is much more polygons and other more sophisticated graphical effects and animations.
IAmTheBest35  +   881d ago
how is it just an hd version of the wii? the games are completely different.. and its not like its just upscaling wii games. it has its own original titles. i dont understand what you mean in your post. as the article said, two of the three next gen systems are known about. we are just waiting for a third. i dont know what world youre living in, but i would like some insight into whats going on in there.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   881d ago
The fact that you get 30 agrees for saying this crap for some reason amazes me. It shouldn't though, you Sony Hivemind on n4g are relentless in your "opinions" (I use that term loosely) rooted in idiocy.
fsfsxii  +   881d ago
Wii U is the reason i bought my Wii 2 months ago
Steadyhndz  +   881d ago
Why are people "Agreeing" with ^^^^ This guy (TheSuperior) he's the dude who wrote the article, put a title for you to click on, and then it was a waste of our time....Then in his own comments he says what we all think "No they're not making mistakes"....sigh
HiddenMission  +   881d ago

I'm sorry people can't be bothered with reading your article. Also I have a new twitter account.

@ThatKansasguy and @NexGen
You too need to learn to read before commenting...
NYC_Gamer  +   881d ago
I believe Sony is way more prepared for the PS4 launch..Nintendo rushed themselves to the market with Wii-U without any solid type of plan and software...Nintendo doesn't fully understand what the Wii-U is supposed to be..
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Indo  +   881d ago
Well said, Nintendo expected people to buy the Wii U just because its labeled Next-Gen. Eventhough Wii U came out first, it relied on many other factors besides great specs to sell. Wii U is good and all but didn't give what people wanted in a Next-Gen Wii console. Its still early to say anything bad about the Wii U, but I have my money on Sony to deliver the best for the PS4.
doublejj  +   881d ago
I cant agree with you more and the Wii U to me is a complete joke because yes it may be high definition but its just a Wii with high definition and i don't see the Wii U lasting too long in the market even though Nintendo has a boat load of cash they could've used that cash to produce a better system Nintendo you should be ashamed of yourselves. Sony ignore these stories as you are definitely not making a mistake and you are well prepared to tackle this game industry with ease and im on board with Sony.
nintendofeed  +   881d ago
I don't believe the Wii U made any mistakes? So, what mistakes is their for the PS4 to follow?
Steadyhndz  +   881d ago
There are a lot of mistakes in Nintendo's way of releasing the Wii U. For one it doesn't match up to what we have now even. It does in some ways, but in most it doesn't....but that's the thing it only matches up to what is soon going to be "Previous-gen".

Nintendo needed to step up its game with the Wii U and they didn't....also having Reggie as their spokesman was not a good idea. Claiming that the Wii U is more powerful than current gen (which is true to an extent but the majority of the population won't see it that way).

Overall the projection sales of the Wii U are about triple of what they actually are so far. Just have to wait and see how it compares this holiday season.
Blackdeath_663  +   881d ago
how do you explain the lacklustre games library and the worst monthly sales figure in nintendo's history on January? releasing a console in the awkward gap between next gen and previous gen with specifications that struggle to beat that of consoles 7years older has to be the biggest mistake ever.
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kenshiro100  +   881d ago
Nintendo needs to get back with their roots during Super Nintendo/N64 days. The WiiU really isn't cutting it. I actually want them to succeed but I'm not sure about the direction of their newest console right now.
Persistantthug  +   881d ago
@nintendofeed..... No mistakes? How about callous an incompetent internet infrastructure?
When you sell, trade, or give you Wii U away, when you get another, your whole account is gone, including everything you've purchased.

That's worse than a mistake.......
That's flippin incompetent.
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Stroke666  +   881d ago
ok, for its plain stupid to say nintendo did something wrong cause its not how its competitor did it. second, it is more powerful than last gen period. the original projections were 5.5 when their sale hit 3.5 mil then halted they lowered thier projections to 4 mil which either way you splice it isn't triple anything. they still may not even make 4 mil the way things are going but watever. lackluster games are from third party devs everything nintendo put their hands on is great. all sony did was take the ps3 add more ram and a gpgpu. the processor is on with 8 cores rather than a build that acts as 8 processors which is the same shit just a different name.but the wii u is just an hd wii? really?!? dont get me wrong i like both the wii u (which i own) and the ps4(which when the price is right i will own) but people come up with the most stupid rationalizations. lastly if you sell or trade your system, then what good is it for you to retain all the shit on the console? now if your shit broke you can send it in to nintendo and they'll fix it up for you real nice like, but if you just want some extra cash or some store credit to buy the competitor then buy a used wii u system (which nintendo gets no cut of) then tough titties.
THESHAUNZY  +   881d ago
PS Vita anyone... OUCH!
Seraphemz  +   881d ago
This isnt about the Vita... nice tro--i mean try.
Blackdeath_663  +   881d ago
the vita and the wiiU admittedly made the same mistakes but the difference is the vita can still be saved with the release of the ps4,gaikai services and a price drop. whereas the wiiu is not likely to show much improvement. besides vita is a handheld the wiiU is supposed to be nintendo's attempt at "next gen".
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KwietStorm  +   881d ago
Off topic much?
ape007  +   881d ago
no freakin way, ps4 is as next gen as possible, wiiu is a bit more powerful xbox360 with a tablet, which is still nice and not bad , wiiu will have crazy good Nintendo exclusives but PS4 is mouth watering, it's the real deal, i hope MS impress me cause I liked 360 more than ps3
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PopRocks359  +   881d ago
Isn't it too early to see it either way? The Wii U didn't suffer from poor hardware or functionality, it suffered a rushed out launch without any significant AAA launch titles in its lineup as well as a post launch drought of physical content. When the PS4 is closer to launch and we have a confirmed list of launch titles, ask that question again.


I'm going to go off on a limb and assume you didn't bother to understand the context of my comment? Because it certainly wasn't criticizing the PS4 or the Wii U, just the way the Wii U launched.
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linkofrs  +   881d ago
Nah don't worry anyone who mentions the Wii U here with out insulting it several times gets disagrees. But yeah the only problem I see with the Wii U is the launch library. There wasn't really anything to showcase what the Wii U could do besides maybe Nintendo Land. But since they made a NSMB game it pretty much overshadowed Nintendo land despite being vastly inferior because its Mario. Hopefully Nintendo shows some good looking games at e3 this year that play well.

We can't judge the PlayStation 4 yet because there is no launch library, no release date, heck the only thing we saw were some visuals and a controller. How do we judge anything off of that?
MasterCornholio  +   881d ago
I hate to ask you this.

But your not Link079 right?..................

Your style of writing is different so i assume that your are not. But your user name...

Maybe im just paranoid.

OT: Anyways Sony will probably not make many of the mistakes that Nintendo made with the Wii U however theres one key mistake that they can make and have made in the past.

And thats screwing up the marketing. I hope that this time around Sony has an excellent marketing team that will be able to convince millions of gamers to buy a PS4 because if they dont only the playstation fans will buy one.
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DaPrintz  +   881d ago
You judge it the same way many of the Nintendo fans on this site judged the WiiU based on a Zelda tech demo 2 years ago. The only difference is Sony had the architect come out and explain what was in the PS4 and the plan for the system. We then saw real time demos of a few games, video of others.
linkofrs  +   881d ago

No I am not him =]
I just happen to use this username on pretty much every website that I make an account on.

However, you did remind me of the other problem the Wii U currently has and that is the marketing. I haven't seen one advertisement on television for it at all, or online. They really need to start advertising it as something different.
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SheaHoff  +   881d ago
Can't wait to try it out :)
Qrphe  +   881d ago
We don't know yet, will there be games????? That's what decides sells.
TheGrimBunny  +   881d ago
Still waiting on the new 360 details before I come to any major conclusions.
kenshiro100  +   881d ago
...How is it making the same mistakes as the WiiU?


Article reeks of ignorance and poor journalism at best. Move on.
Thepcz  +   881d ago
does anyone else think the ps4 is nothing more than a ps3 but a different chip set?

i do
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Campy da Camper  +   881d ago
Not me.
grassyknoll  +   881d ago
That just makes me want it more!
Trago1337  +   881d ago
Good god, we don't even know any of it's launch games or details, can we wait for that until we make any judgments?
linkkjm  +   881d ago
I hope I can buy the PS4 at 7/11.
OlgerO  +   881d ago
PS4 always is best console in society. The gaming gods will bless the PS4 with their holy gaming power
Gimmemorebubblez  +   881d ago
~Sony didn't NIN-TEND to make the same mistakes~

This article is rubbish and nothing but flame-bait.
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danny818  +   881d ago
WiiU will be fine so will ps4. These articles really are getting pointless
Mozef  +   881d ago
again one of the PS4 (hating) articles .
Silly gameAr  +   881d ago
Ohhh, this is the same site that compared a hack and slash to a third person shooter. It must have been because they have the same initials right?

Yeah. Get them hits baby.
ps3_pwns  +   881d ago

still cant believe wii u hasnt released big games that people wanted yet
biggest_mario_fan   881d ago | Spam
josephayal  +   881d ago
I do believe Sony have learned from their mistakes
dafegamer  +   881d ago
taken from an exclusive interview
"Guerrilla reveals to CVG that - as a first-party studio - it was part of the consultation process and had a sizeable input in the final system specs."This was the first time we did this with PlayStation, where you get the entire group of core developers together and consistently give very deep, profound feedback on everything system-related, and that's really awesome," ter Heide said.

"The guys who made it are no longer in an ivory tower in Tokyo, [the development has been] shared with us and not just with us, but with Evolution, Santa Monica, Naughty Dog, everybody and together we've built the machine.

"I think because it's so embedded in the work that we do, we who make games on a daily basis, it's a gamer's machine. That's the end result of it. I think Mark Cerny said at one point [in the PS4 conference] that it's a machine by gamers, for gamers, and I really think that's the essence of it. They've made sure that all the focus is just on how we can make the games as good as possible."The console's power is only one aspect of the PlayStation 4 that Guerrilla helped design" Sony has nothing to worry
delboy  +   881d ago
They said it and you believed it? After all those CELL lies?
Ah sorry, I forgot that sony boys are brainwashed.

Well I'm not, I will wait for a year or so before I decide which console to buy.
Still have my brains and money in the pocket.
JamieL  +   880d ago
You know I really like Sony's gaming machines. I have since the psx, I also think what they are showing for the PS4 looks great, and I'm excited, but I'm also with you 100%. They said a lot of BS about what the almighty Cell could do. I have not forgot that, and I will just have to hide and watch. I am pretty sure of one thing. I seriously doubt I'll be disappointed.
danitanzo  +   881d ago
Any mistake Sony makes will be very different from the mistakes Nintendo makes...
kirbyu  +   881d ago
I don't care, I don't want one.
just-joe  +   881d ago
No, but Sony has a lot riding on the system. Despite what you think of the company, they are not in the best financial status.
Gimmemorebubblez  +   881d ago
Genres in Video-game journalism

-Why Sony will fail
-WiiU is dead
-Ps4 vs Xbox 720

....Need I say more?
Silly gameAr  +   881d ago
MS is the Bestest?
PC Rulz All?
Herez Da Specs of the PS470?
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Flatbattery  +   881d ago
Hmm! Going on the realisation that PS4 has generated more hype and news in one week than Wii U has in eighteen months I'm gonna go with no.

We'll have to wait and see after the inevitable shower of doom articles start to arrive.
Bumpmapping  +   881d ago
Wii U beefed up Xbox 360 vs PS4 true next generation machine Soooo many mistakes on Sonys part...
andrewer  +   881d ago
PS4 will never be the best thing ever for games if you want graphics and stuff, because that's the PC. Consoles's fight should be just for casual fun, and that's why Wii U wins. PS4 is trying to fight PC but fails miserably, who don't notice it is just another fanboy who can't see the truth. Gamers getting so ridiculous nowadays.
Dislike if you're a PS4 fanboy.
Flatbattery  +   881d ago
Well aren't you a bundle joy!
profgerbik  +   881d ago
As someone said I think the biggest mistake Wii U made was lack of information in many ways, what bothered me though was this... Something about them hiding their specifications or not even willing to talk about them for so long was weird.

It may not seem like a problem but it is definitely shady. It's almost like they don't have much confidence in the system themselves.

The way I see it if I am investing millions in something and want to show it off the the world I am going to explain every little detail about it not going to let others have to figure it out on their own.

Nintendo just rubs me the wrong way with what they do sometimes. They claim they have a Next Generation system but for some reason were so scared to even tell us what was inside it other than the processor, for the longest time all we knew is that the Wii U would have an IBM processor.. I don't know about others but that kind of stuff just ain't right.

Especially when you think of it from a fan type perspective, why wouldn't you want your fans to know what they are buying?
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lilbroRx  +   881d ago
They have long since stopped giving out their specifications and they've made it clear why timte and time again. Its because they don't want Microsoft and Sony(I'm sure their will be back lash for saying "that word") copying them or trying to upscale their tech(ie. make the same part/device only with slightly higher specs.)

Nothing shady about it. They tell those who need to know. What matters to the consumer isn't specs. Whats matters to them is cost and entertainment value.
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