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Submitted by broli4000 542d ago | opinion piece

Has the PS4 Already won the Next-Gen Race?

Forget hardware stats. Forget price point. Forget RAM, controllers, marketing and fanboyism. All those things don’t matter on who is better or what console is worse. The race is already well in hand for Sony and its PS4 console. (Industry, Microsoft, PS4, Sony, Xbox One)

Just_The_Truth  +   542d ago
How about we wait until they announce the Xbox
classic200  +   542d ago
Or wait until they announce the blocking of used games and always online.
_-EDMIX-_  +   542d ago
PS3 has outsold the 360, with a higher price point and a year late.

MS had the least studios last gen, even less thisgen besides all the kinect studios they formed.

Sony owns MORE then what they did when they started this gen. Mind you GTA and FF and MGS going multiplat at this point mean nothing. They are just 3rd party games now.

Sorry, but MS is in some huge trouble, unless they go out and buy like 5 teams, they are in to lose next gen....again.
Shacojin  +   542d ago
TRUE!
M2-  +   542d ago
@_-EDMIX-_
"PS3 has outsold the 360, with a higher price point and a year late."

source?

"MS had the least studios last gen, even less thisgen besides all the kinect studios they formed."

MS have 21 first party studios which I think is more than they had last generation. Only 3 are dedicated Kinect studios (or have only released Kinect games to date).
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Jek_Porkins  +   542d ago
Well I'll start by saying this, Microsoft improved from 24 million units sold with the original Xbox to over 76 million with the 360. They are headed towards first in North America, they have had the best selling console in NA 25 straight months.

They actually have 20 first party studios now, over the last 4 years they opened 5 new studios and bought Twisted Pixel.

Sony went from dominating every market and 150 million consoles sold to 74?
Just_The_Truth  +   542d ago
How about we wait until they announce the Xbox. We have no clue when it's coming out and that whole theory is trash. The wii came out at the same time as the Ps3 but it sold the most. Their are too many unknown factors like price, games, features that we have no clue about to even assume the ps4s won. Don't get me wrong Ill only be owning the ps4 but let's be reasonable.
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broli4000  +   542d ago
I'm guessing you didn't read my article then. It explains it out fairly clearly. Just to sum it up though... the first console out has been the one with the most games and the developers have been able to maximize the potential of the console quicker. That jump in content is what ultimately wins the console race.

Next time, read the article before you comment.

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Since you edited your comment after the fact and apparently still haven't read my article, I go over the specific fact that we don't know when Microsoft is going to release their console yet. However, using the past as an indicator, the first one to release their console wins the race. If both release at the same time, then it will be up to other factors but content is king and always will be.
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PSVita  +   542d ago
"Microsoft simply sold more consoles in the US because they released first."
Ok maybe that was the case in the US but how do you explain everywhere else were the Xbox released first and sold less? In order for the ps3 to have out sold the Xbox 360(which it has) when it released a year and a half later it would have needed to sell more year over year.

"We saw the same thing happen in the previous race where the PS2 was out before the Xbox was and destroyed it in terms of sales regardless of not being as powerful of a console."

You know the dreamcast came out nearly 2 years before the ps2 but failed badly the head start didn't work out to well for them now did it. Also the wii came out a year after the Xbox but out sold in the US.

If you wanted to write an actually decent article you should have written about factors like ads, popularity and society have a huge influence on why consoles sell well instead of this illogical theory.
Bumpmapping  +   542d ago
Kinect 2.0?

Yep Kinect is so original Move as you say is just a "gimmick"... I am all for borrowing ideas and improving them but you make it sound like that Sony is the only one to borrow ideas of its competitors.

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broli4000  +   542d ago
You know, I'm interested in the kinect2.0 if it has the holodeck-esque room enhancements that have been speculated. I personally think that motion controls are a gimmick and really only see the kinect's visual recognition as more of a luxury aftermarket purchase, but it looks like they are going in the right direction with it.

Sony's Move controllers are absolutely just a gimmick that they've essentially stolen from the Wii. I'll be interested in this generation if they are able to use it for anything more than they did this last generation.

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This comment system is weird. @KUV1977 - The Wii released in 2006, but who knows how long they were working on functionality before then. Ultimately, it only matters what was released, not what was worked on because we'll never know the real deal.
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KUV1977  +   542d ago
Wii released in 2006. The following is a video showing SONY working on MOVE-like tech in 2001.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

It's okay to bitch around and say x stole from y but get the order right!

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EDIT: And yet you claim it was stolen by SONY from Nintendo. I think 5 years in advancement and bringing out EyeToy way before the Wii at least strongly suggests that SONY was the one working with stuff like that first. They may have had terrible marketing so that EyeToy never took of and they may thus have made the 'bad' decision of bringing out MOVE that late, but calling them tech-thiefs seems a bit weired giving the circumstances.
By the way, similar footage exists of SONY working with IR-depth-cameras with the same company that MS later used to build Kinect. SONY may make bad decisions (business- and marketing-wise) but saying they do 'nothing but steal', which is a widely accepted prejudice, is just plain wrong.
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Proeliator  +   542d ago
Really, really good article. Sony is putting up a fair fight this gen.
For me yes..
rapidturtle  +   542d ago
Microsoft is gong to need some exclusive titles. They can't keep hanging their hats on Halo and Gears. They are also going to have to rethink charging for online play. I just can't see them ripping off online players for another generation.
broli4000  +   542d ago
Yeah, I'm with you and I think they will get more exclusives. I don't think we'll see any console get too many exclusives at launch just because of the nature of the business, but exclusives are going to be a huge reason for a console doing well.
hazardman  +   542d ago
yeah but Sonys doing same thing....
I'm buying a PS4 and you can bet your ass its to play my main titles Killzone, God of War, Uncharted, GT6, MLB the Show, Super Stardust.

I like more of sonys other games but the same ones I've been playing all these years are the same ones I upgrade consoles for! Seeing what your favorite games will look like with the new technology is what does for me!

Sony no doubt got everyones attention! And I think that the nextbox will impress as well. Only time will tell!
Temporary  +   542d ago
Great article. They learned from their PS3 mistakes for sure ... cant wait to see what Xbox does though, i wont get the nextbox but I'm curious what they have up their sleeve.
_-EDMIX-_  +   542d ago
In terms of "mistakes" all they learned is from the tech and thats about it. Sony was ALWAYS gearing and planning for next gen to be what you see it going to be this fall. They bought those studios throughout the whole gen, this is not a "they learned" anything type of deal.

Its a "they planned this from the start, are at 77 million PS3s, have a boat load of studios and the chess game is where the want it to be" Sony said this YEARS ago, this is "not a race, its a marathon" and what they laid out is nothing short of epic! They have 2 new IP's releasing on the already successful PS3 and are launching with a beast line up and STILL have teams to spare.

That is not a last minute thing there, that was planning for years to be in such a position.

I can't say I won't get a 720 based on not really seeing if MS will make new ips, but its very, very likely they won't based on not having enough teams. Sony has positioned themselves SO GOOD, that in order to really beat them, you need to go back in time, keep your teams, and buy more teams JUST to compete.

MS played checkers, Sony played chess.
Temporary  +   542d ago
I agree with everything you said. You're right, im seeing it in another perspective now. Very happy Sony acknowledged the "core" gamers in their last statements.
ps3_pwns  +   542d ago
For me yeah it has already won. I will have a ps4 and a wii u as my secondary console. Sorry x720 but you lost and you suck. i hope no one buys you.
Hicken  +   542d ago
If all the players haven't begun, how can anyone have already won? Didn't mean to make it rhyme, by the way.

I love Sony as much as the next non-troll. But until we see what the Nextbox is capable of, this is premature.

Sure, if we go by rumors, the PS4 will have won based on feature set alone. But those rumors probably aren't even true. So the only thing we can do is wait and see.
e-p-ayeaH  +   542d ago
If i cant just play the games i rightfully bought on PSN to this day on PS4 its not a win for me its like everything you bought previously vanishes away so that in a few years from now you can simply dust off your ps3 (if still works that is) to be able to play some games stored in the hard drive that probably wont be re-downloadable ever again so they can just re-sell it through the cloud service...that´s just pathetic.

This simply tells people that digital games are mere rentals pretty much.
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PSVita  +   542d ago
I agree that suck but up until the ps3/xbox360 no systems had BC.
e-p-ayeaH  +   542d ago
ps2 ran ps1 games that´s why many people bought it right away.

They just need to make a BC PS4 version so that old school gamers can buy them.
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PSVita  +   542d ago
My mistake the ps2 was BC too.
SpinalRemains138  +   542d ago
I wouldn't say already, but SONY sure is in prime shape to do so in the future.

SONY had absolutely everything working against them this gen, and they still pulled past 360. More expensive console, came a year later, less games at first, worse multiplats etc.......

SONY still beat out the 360 in sales. So now that SONY is building their new machine with developers in mind and it is releasing before or at the same time as 720, they have a real opportunity to kick some buttocks.

Still though.....anything can happen.
TheOneEyedHound  +   542d ago
You still have to take into account how much money M$ made with Xbox live & kinect, plus the Ps3 cost a lot more to make than the xbox 360.

You can't forget about the 2 months the Psn was down, which cost them millions.

So I'll put the xbox in 2nd place and the ps3 3rd, even though I loved the ps3 more.
JeffGUNZ  +   542d ago
Sony had everything against them? Give me a break, they were the lead platform since PS1, they were the top dogs. Microsoft had everything against them, their original xbox wasn't a big success like they hoped and hey were able to triple their sales from their last gen. console to their current gen. They took complete control of North America and lots of Europe. Sony dug their own grave. The fact that people think Sony won is a joke. Look at how much fanbase was taken from the PS3 this generation thanks to the 360. PS2 is like 150 million units and PS3 is half of that. The amount of Market share the 360 took from Sony this generation is impressive. Face the facts man, Sony didn't do well like they thought they would and Microsoft surprised everyone this gen.

This is a good thing. Competition makes products better.
TheOneEyedHound  +   542d ago
Typical article.
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MikeEaton  +   542d ago
Typical speling.
TheOneEyedHound  +   542d ago
Haha, Iphone.

You got me I'll give you that.
josephayal  +   542d ago
Nothing can beat the Wii u
Jek_Porkins  +   542d ago
We have no info on the next Xbox, we have no release price or design on the PS4 and yet we are trying to declare a winner? lol

I remember after the PS3 was announced people said the same thing, didn't really work out that well.
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SmokeyMcBear  +   541d ago
yeahhh.. two things. WiiU already launched first, and we all see how thats turning out. And in this gen, Wii launched after the 360 along with the PS3 and just annihalated the competition. So, yeah.

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